👉 Con Argentina como “experimento” libertario para exportar al mundo en crisis, Milei cierra el primer año de Gobierno con un discurso por cadena nacional.
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00:00Some things to discuss especially what we can raise as unfulfilled promises and with what my own law
00:06fulfilled
00:07within unfulfilled promises the destruction of the central bank
00:10He didn't do it. I think I think it's part of it. No, I'm not there. I don't agree with the look
00:15I think I
00:17Spoilers
00:19I think my law complied with everything except with
00:22the unfulfilled promises.
00:24Pablo, but in the campaign it was talked about raising the sepulcher,
00:26dollarizing,
00:28destroying the central bank,
00:30solving the issue of unemployment,
00:32solving the issue of insecurity.
00:34No, no, no.
00:36He didn't say I'm going to do it on the first day of my term.
00:38Okay.
00:40We are analyzing
00:42these 12 months, what could I do
00:44with all this I just mentioned to you.
00:46The only thing that obviously
00:48forced by the campaign
00:50that was unfulfilled was when he said
00:52the adjustment won't be paid by the people,
00:54it will be paid by the caste.
00:56He knew that was impossible to fulfill.
00:58Obviously, the retirees paid it,
01:00the university students paid it,
01:02the people paid it with the electricity bill.
01:04Now, everything else was fulfilled by the central bank
01:06and yes, it's on its way to closure,
01:08if it's not being issued.
01:10Let's go that way.
01:12He didn't say on the first day I'm going to go with a
01:14can of naphtha and I'm going to burn it.
01:16He closed the house of currency.
01:18Well, that's symbolic.
01:20Yes, but it was the place
01:22where the bills were printed at some point.
01:24He stopped issuing.
01:26He stopped issuing.
01:28He stopped being operative.
01:30It's as if somehow it was diluted, isn't it?
01:32He lowered the regulations
01:34to the entire financial system,
01:36that's why virtual banknotes proliferate,
01:38the government looks to one side when that appears.
01:40Okay, but isn't it very contradictory that a year ago...
01:42The dollarization.
01:44Isn't it contradictory to have a libertarian government
01:46It's part of a process.
01:48He says it very clearly.
01:50We are not libertarians.
01:52He's about to talk about 2025, isn't he?
01:54We are not libertarians,
01:56we are libertarians.
01:58And he says that you are going to a process
02:00where they will converge and in fact,
02:02the dollar, which assumed it with $1,300,
02:04took it to $1,500,
02:06went to $1,000 and is closing the gap.
02:08You may like it or not,
02:10but that is a reality
02:12and today there is a shortage of pesos on the street.
02:14And he also said how it was going to dollarize
02:16and Caputo said it.
02:18People are not going to find pesos
02:20and people are not finding pesos.
02:22You may like it or not.
02:24The economic aspect.
02:26An Argentina that is surrounded
02:28by at least two or three countries
02:30that have devalued
02:32their currency in one or two opportunities.
02:34The same.
02:36In the year.
02:38In six months.
02:40In this second half, it has devalued twice.
02:42Brazil and Uruguay have done their own thing.
02:44And Argentina?
02:46How is it going?
02:48I imagine they must be analyzing
02:50because they have changed the rules.
02:52A Trump who announces,
02:54obviously Aranceles.
02:56Today Trump is with Canada.
02:58The government says it is not going to devalue,
03:00that it is not the function of the government to devalue.
03:02That is, it is not that it says
03:04we are not going to devalue,
03:06they are not going to twist our hands in the markets.
03:08How do you start a growth plan
03:10What do you say to the productive mass
03:12of Argentina?
03:14The industrials?
03:16Two answers to this.
03:18The first is that the industry
03:20is not in the lexicon of this government.
03:22It was not in the campaign.
03:24It was not during the government.
03:26Milley believes that that economic activity
03:28that is competitive
03:30has to follow its course
03:32and strengthen through taking out regulations.
03:34And those that are not competitive
03:36have no reason to be.
03:38The second is that Argentina
03:40will stop being as expensive
03:42as it is in dollars
03:44to the extent that taxes can be lowered.
03:46And that is what he promises.
03:48And surely he will talk about that
03:50in this speech by Cadena Nacional that he is going to do.
03:52What he promises for this year of management
03:54is that once the fiscal surplus
03:56has been achieved for a whole year,
03:58it is to start lowering taxes.
04:00Let's see if he does it or not.
04:02Just one little thing
04:04that I wanted to add to you, Pablo.
04:06It is also very important
04:08what he did in the labor system.
04:10Because the indemnifications
04:12for emergency situations,
04:14emergency crisis, were eliminated.
04:16What were the indemnifying calculations
04:18that made the labor trial industry
04:20decompressed.
04:22You go through the labor courts today
04:24and it is not what it was before.
04:26Now the worker is more insisted
04:28to reach an agreement
04:30because it does not have that immense volume.
04:32Is that a setback?
04:34From the point of view of the worker
04:36it is a setback for the rights acquired.
04:38From the point of view of the businessman
04:40who needs to have employees
04:42at a not so high cost,
04:44it gives a certain certainty and security.
04:46But that did not generate
04:48new jobs.
04:50No, because we are in recession.
04:52That's the reality.
04:54That's why I told you at the beginning of the program
04:56this metaphor. There was an uncontrolled plane.
04:58Miley said, I'm going to land it.
05:00He landed it and crashed it against the ground.
05:02Pablo, that's the first idea
05:04of the savior of a catastrophe.
05:06No, because I'm telling you, he crashed it against the ground
05:08and we don't know if this is
05:10he crashed it to leave it there
05:12or to fix it and make it grow again.
05:14In terms of insecurity, Javi, you can think
05:16because it was another campaign promise
05:18that falls deep into the people.
05:20People want,
05:22it does not matter,
05:24in general the people
05:26leave aside
05:28if necessary ideological issues
05:30to solve real problems.
05:32Money, pockets,
05:34inflation, insecurity,
05:36labor.
05:38I think we have to evaluate
05:40what he achieved,
05:42for example, one of the campaign promises
05:44is to remove the pickets from the streets.
05:46That is undeniable.
05:48He has minimized it
05:50at maximum pressure.
05:52Because there may be a cut,
05:54but it is minimal.
05:56The big street cutters
05:58already go up to the sidewalk.
06:00They have judicial processes.
06:02He managed to tame that.
06:04He managed to tame and make it understood
06:06that the top leaders
06:08or pickets
06:10led the mass of people
06:12and the mass of people
06:14was the one who banked the gases
06:16while the rest, from time to time.
06:18They understood that
06:20it can be protested in an orderly way
06:22and he achieved it on the purpose of his proposal.
06:24On the other hand, drug trafficking
06:26is still happening.
06:28As always in Argentina,
06:30with different evaluations,
06:32different results.
06:34Is it being seized?
06:36Yes, a lot.
06:38What happens is that there are
06:40permeable places in Argentina
06:42where you have
06:44three holes
06:46of a pool,
06:48you cover one,
06:50two, three holes,
06:52but on the other side
06:54you cover all the other holes.
06:56It is complicated.
06:58Does the pool contain itself?
07:00Yes, but
07:02other border crossings
07:04are also being opened,
07:06for example, with the issue of drugs.
07:08It mutates, it travels.
07:10When you close a step, another one opens.
07:12Unfortunately, because of the type of crime
07:14and the type of subject involved.
07:16When you put a front with police officers
07:18in one place, the crime mutates to another
07:20because it looks for more permeable places.
07:22Rosario has managed
07:24with Pujaro
07:26to reduce the insecurity
07:28and of course
07:30the drug attack.
07:32Is it complete? No.
07:34Patricia Bullrich, a great bastion for my law,
07:36despite the fact that she competed
07:38in the elections as a candidate
07:40for president,
07:42assumed the leadership
07:44and absorbed
07:46the federal penitentiary service
07:48in consonance with Pujaro,
07:50where the main leaders
07:52of narco-criminality
07:54decided to isolate them
07:56in different cells
07:58to prevent them from managing
08:00the gangs outside.
08:02I go back to politics.
08:04Did Mauricio Macri get eaten?
08:06Did he manage to cancel it?
08:08Did he manage to choose to polarize with Cristina Kirchner?
08:10And that is to play very to the limit
08:12and play at a great political risk?
08:14It seems to me that
08:16throughout the year it was oscillating.
08:18In some moments he needed it more
08:20and leaned on him.
08:22In some moments Macri told him
08:24let's go to a more formal alliance
08:26and my law ended up opting for
08:28leaders of loose Peronism
08:30to try to strengthen their own
08:32position of force
08:34against their ally Mauricio Macri.
08:36And the unknown is what will happen
08:38from here to 2025.
08:40And the political decision of the government
08:42is Macri out of this scheme.
08:44We go with our own.
08:46We are going to confront Cristina.
08:48We are going to win Cristina.
08:50And Macri is going to be liquidated.
08:52There is no place for an alliance with the pro
08:54at least in the terms that Mauricio Macri would like.
08:56And this was seen last week
08:58when my law made that tweet
09:00that talked about biblical questions
09:02and said, well,
09:04I prefer a bad guy than a warm guy.
09:06Well, I prefer Cristina
09:08than a warm guy like Macri.
09:10So my law chooses Cristina.
09:12It wants to polarize with Cristina.
09:14They are the two faces of the coin.
09:16And it believes that it is not useful
09:18to have warm people among its ranks.
09:20People of nuanced supports.
09:22Therefore,
09:24Mauricio Macri out.
09:26And the opposition,
09:28what did it do all this year?
09:30The opposition tried to do what it could.
09:32The opposition of Kirchnerism,
09:34obviously opposing practically everything.
09:36And an opposition
09:38of what was the old
09:40together for change trying to make balance.
09:42Because they know that part of their voters
09:44support this government.
09:46As much as in the first round
09:48they voted for the Retra, Bullrich or others,
09:50the vast majority of voters
09:52together for change supported this government.
09:54And what they see,
09:56before we talked about surveys,
09:58is that in most provinces
10:00where the ex together for change
10:02was strong or is strong,
10:04my law still has a lot of support.
10:06So it is very difficult for a
10:08radical deputy for Cordoba
10:10to oppose things proposed by the government.
10:12Because they know that
10:14their electorate is supporting it.
10:16It is a very complicated situation
10:18for the non-Kirchnerist opposition
10:20that does not want to join the government,
10:22but it can not make an opposition
10:24too angry because
10:26its own people do not want it.
10:28And the leaders have to listen.
10:30Now there is a fact about
10:32what is happening within the opposition
10:34that I think
10:36favors my law even more.
10:38Yesterday's debate
10:40about Kirchnerist Peronism
10:42I think solidifies it much more.
10:44Much more to my law, of course.
10:46Because many of those tables,
10:48Macri and all the rest,
10:50collaborated to win my law.
10:52Sure, but there are not many alternatives.
10:54Look at the Argentine map
10:56of what the opposition is.
10:58Let's put it 50 and 50.
11:00Of the 50% that does not want my law.
11:02And what are you going to say?
11:04Let's see, do we get Cristina out?
11:06How much do I have left?
11:08Let's see, do I get him out?
11:10How much do I have left?
11:12I get Macri out.
11:14Let's go back to that idea
11:16that was given prior to Alberto Fernandez's triumph
11:18that is, with Cristina it is not enough,
11:20without Cristina it is not possible.
11:22We have to do a reorganization
11:24of both fronts.
11:26Because the opposition needs a mix
11:28to strengthen itself because it does not exist.
11:30Today we do not have opposition.
11:32That is the reality.
11:34Yesterday I interviewed
11:36on the radio Marcela Campagnoli,
11:38a member of the Civic Coalition.
11:40The Civic Coalition is, after Kirchnerism,
11:42perhaps the most rabid opposition
11:44that this government has,
11:46with Elisa Carrió in the lead.
11:48But how many are they?
11:50It does not matter.
11:52To understand the logic.
11:54But Carrió's political volume is very strong.
11:56I want to tell you something else.
11:58I asked her,
12:00Cristina or my law?
12:02Campagnoli.
12:04A woman close to Lilita.
12:06Elisa Carrió, who says that
12:08my law is practically a dictator.
12:10Cristina or my law?
12:12What did she say?
12:14My law.
12:16The opposition is very complicated.
12:18Because if one says,
12:20without Cristina it is not possible.
12:22How much does Cristina have?
12:24Does she have 20?
12:26I told you, let's go back
12:28when it was raised,
12:30when Cristina took out
12:32from under the table
12:34the ace, which at the time
12:36in electoral terms was very good,
12:38which was Alberto Fernández,
12:40then a disaster as president.
12:42Now, at that time it was said,
12:44without Cristina it is not possible,
12:46with Cristina leading, it is not enough,
12:48because still today
12:50it has very high levels
12:52of negative images.
12:54But that's why Cristina is not enough,
12:56that's why the table is yesterday.
12:58They are all fighting.
13:00And they are still fighting.
13:02We see this in politics,
13:04they fight, then they get together
13:06for the elections and then they fight again.
13:08Something must be said about yesterday's table,
13:10which was a table of Peronism
13:12of the province of Buenos Aires,
13:14and when one looks at the results
13:16of the 2023 election,
13:18in the province of Buenos Aires Peronism won.
13:20And when one looks at the polls,
13:22we just said that they give my law very well,
13:24but when one starts to be
13:26in the province of Buenos Aires,
13:28especially in the Colombian,
13:30my law is still on the ground.
13:32I'm going to tell you more.
13:34If you review how Peronism did
13:36in the first round,
13:38and in the ballot box
13:40in the province of Buenos Aires,
13:42you will be amazed by the numbers.
13:44Because having Sergio Massa as a candidate,
13:46who is not a pure candidate
13:48of Peronism,
13:50Massa did very well
13:52in the province of Buenos Aires,
13:54he always got above 40 points,
13:56and Kicillof ended up
13:58choosing
14:00above 50 points.
14:02Exactly.
14:04So, what's next?
14:06If Cristina is in charge,
14:08how much will she get in the province of Buenos Aires?
14:1040?
14:12Today Kicillof has
14:14a real specific weight.
14:16Because he is also the governor of the province,
14:18and Cristina is virtual.
14:20And one of the most prominent
14:22opponents in the government.
14:24Yesterday we discussed
14:26with Cata
14:28what these pictures mean.
14:30You didn't answer me.
14:32I don't remember what you asked me.
14:34I told you.
14:36Diplomats.
14:38We analyzed
14:40under the idea that
14:42Peronism in the province of Buenos Aires
14:44does not measure.
14:46No, no, the other way around.
14:48Let's suppose
14:50the formula Cristina.
14:52I tell you the other way around.
14:54The list.
14:56How much will you get in the province of Buenos Aires?
14:58When you look at the electoral map
15:00and the public opinion of the country,
15:02it is divided.
15:04In the province of Buenos Aires,
15:06Peronism is still hegemonic.
15:08A little more, a little less.
15:10Particularly in the urban area of Buenos Aires.
15:12What happens if Peronism
15:14gets you
15:1640 points
15:18in a more complex district
15:20than the mother of all battles?
15:22How does it continue?
15:24Well, Libertad Avanza will say
15:26we have 40%
15:28throughout the country.
15:30That's what I was going to ask you.
15:32At the country level, how would the Argentine map be configured?
15:34Because now, after a year of government,
15:36we didn't have
15:38these experiences.
15:40You probably have a country-level scenario
15:42and a third-party scenario.
15:44A third a little more
15:46of my law,
15:48a third of Peronism,
15:50and a third grouped in different forces.
15:52I see a 50-50 scenario.
15:54Libertarians
15:56versus Peronists.
15:58Yes, and you have to see how it regroups.
16:00Where is it going?
16:02You think you have provincial forces.
16:04What's going to happen with radicalism in Santa Fe?
16:06What's going to happen with radicalism in Santa Fe?
16:08Do you think
16:10it's going to be so easy
16:12for radicalism to lose in Santa Fe, for example?
16:14Is it going to be easy
16:16for the DICNEC to lose in Rio Negro?
16:18Or for Jarjola to lose in Córdoba?
16:20We have to see how it's going to end up.
16:22For the first time, we're going to use the single ticket.
16:24There's no more drag.
16:26We have no idea how that's going to influence.
16:28You tell me,
16:30do you know that people are going to start voting for different national parties?
16:32Are they going to vote for one and vote for the other for provincial?
16:34It could be.
16:36You're going to tell me, no, people are not going to have any idea,
16:38and they're going to vote for everything.
16:40I don't want to stop talking about these photos.
16:42Why? Because it's key.
16:44Because look at where Kicillof is.
16:46Look at the mass centrality.
16:48Look at what they're telling Kicillof.
16:50With this photo that we're seeing.
16:52They're telling him,
16:54don't you dare undermine the election of the province of Buenos Aires.
16:56Don't you dare.
16:58Don't you dare, because if there's something Kicillof wants,
17:00it's to try to get there as a candidate
17:02with enough independence
17:04so that it doesn't happen to Kicillof,
17:06what happened to Alberto Fernández.
17:08This photo that we saw before.
17:10That photo now, when you get to the bathroom.
17:12Look, there.
17:14With mass in the center.
17:16This is the photo that the mass campaign team sent.
17:18Right?
17:20The mass communication team.
17:22With mass in the center.
17:24Máximo practically on his knees.
17:26Cristina looking at him.
17:28No, no, Kicillof sent it.