"Jinko Mummy Daddy Kaha Jata Tha Unhonay...", Sheikh Waqas Akram
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00:00Let's take a look at the overall overview of the situation today.
00:05The PTI is clearly divided into factions, whether they believe it or not.
00:11There are many factions within the PTI.
00:13Bushra Bibi, Aleema Bibi, Hamad Azhar from Punjab,
00:21Gandapur's issues, and all of Mr. Gandapur's own issues.
00:25Everything is going on.
00:26On 24th November, someone is putting pressure on someone, and someone is putting pressure on someone else.
00:30The other day, he was telling me that when he last met Gaur Sahib, Imran Khan Sahib,
00:37he gave him a lot of scolding.
00:39He said that you people did not pressurize, he said a lot of things to him.
00:45In fact, he was told that you have given a call for civil disobedience,
00:50there are some differences in this as well,
00:52so a committee is looking at this, so he said,
00:54whoever has an objection, they should submit it to the committee and the party,
00:57and this is my order, and it will go according to that.
01:00This is your situation.
01:02Let me add to this.
01:05The last two street movements,
01:08the way they were removed, the way people were killed, they should leave it,
01:11but they could not shake the government.
01:15They have the Supreme Court, they have the Election Commission,
01:19they are doing well with the establishment.
01:21Now, Imran Khan Sahib feels that he will be punished for this as well.
01:25Now, we can see the military trial on the horizon.
01:28Whatever you are seeing, it looks like a worst-case scenario.
01:33Right now, the way forward, and the government is also reluctant to talk to you,
01:36it is clearly visible.
01:37There will be a lot of committees, the talks will continue,
01:39the committees will play.
01:41It looks like you are going tactic to tactic,
01:45not a strategic game plan.
01:48Am I wrong?
01:50Sir, first of all, I have a small disagreement with you.
01:52With respect, what you have done one by one,
01:55the first thing is that there is no big disagreement in the party,
01:58in fact, there is no small disagreement.
01:59If there was a disagreement,
02:01if the call that Khan has given on 24th,
02:06if a person had said from that call that
02:09I have a disagreement with Ali Ameen, so I am not going.
02:12Bushra Bibi is saying that I am standing, everyone ran away.
02:15Bushra Bibi's sister said in our show that
02:18she has been kept in Hafz-e-Beja by Gandapur.
02:21Then if there is no disagreement,
02:24then Mishal Yusuf will be fired immediately
02:26by the advisor, the special assistant.
02:29There are things, but they leave them, that is the relevant thing.
02:32I am talking overall.
02:34I said, listen to me, sir.
02:36There is such a big party that has taken crores of votes.
02:39There are small jolts inside.
02:40There is disagreement when a person disagrees with the leader
02:44and says that I do not do this.
02:46When Imran Khan gave a call,
02:47whether someone understood it well or not,
02:50whether someone agreed with something or not,
02:51everyone reached that call.
02:53Number one, I say again,
02:56there are small jolts in big parties.
02:59That party whose leader has been kept innocent for so long,
03:03whose entire leadership has been terrorized,
03:07whose people cannot go to their homes,
03:09cannot move to their provinces,
03:11whose people are being abducted,
03:13who are being tortured,
03:15as per which the judges are writing letters,
03:17in this turmoil, in these situations,
03:20things do not go as per strategy many times.
03:23You asked that we are going
03:25tact by tact, we are moving according to tactics.
03:27So, in such a turmoil,
03:28in such a chaos that has not happened with any party so far,
03:31then many times things do not go as per strategy.
03:36Strategies have to be changed,
03:38tactics have to be changed.
03:40At the end of the day, we are a political party,
03:42we are not militants, God forbid.
03:44Those who have done this,
03:46that now we have to do this and that,
03:48it is not like that.
03:50The life of the people is very important for us.
03:52The life of the people is very important for us.
03:54If it was a militant party,
03:56then they would have said,
03:58okay, come out and show the world.
04:00People saved their lives,
04:02people came from there,
04:04I am asking about the party
04:06so that you can tell me
04:08that after Khan Sahib,
04:10the party's ultimate,
04:12undisputed, whose word is the final word?
04:14Bushra Bibi's,
04:16Gandapur Sahib's,
04:18or Barrister Gauhar's?
04:20Whose word is the heaviest for everyone?
04:22Look, sir, the first thing is that
04:24after Khan Sahib,
04:26No, that is inside,
04:28but there are meetings every day,
04:30I am talking about outside.
04:32Khan Sahib gives the call,
04:34Khan gives the time,
04:36Khan gives the strategy,
04:38Khan gives everything,
04:40so there is no need for outside help.
04:42No, because everyone said,
04:44we were ready to go to Sangjani,
04:46Bushra Bibi said,
04:48no, we will go to D-Chowk,
04:50so we had to go.
04:52So then, ultimately,
04:54after Khan Sahib,
04:56whose word is the undisputed?
04:58I think that after Khan Sahib,
05:00this is what I directed,
05:02then the debate ends,
05:04who was saying what,
05:06who was not saying what.
05:08Now, who should we negate,
05:10and who should we do that?
05:12When Khan said,
05:14this is what I said,
05:16then we went to Bukla.
05:18Now, your people also think,
05:20your Bukla,
05:22said in the program,
05:24that the decision of the military trial
05:26of the civilians,
05:28any bench of the Supreme Court,
05:30may not give that decision,
05:32which the original bench,
05:34the seven-member bench gave,
05:36that it is not possible.
05:38Now, if that also happens,
05:40and we have seen,
05:42since a year and a half,
05:44Khan Sahib has been inside,
05:46there is a lot of turmoil,
05:48there are a lot of pressures
05:50inside the party,
05:52there is push and pull,
05:54if it takes a few more months
05:56Inshallah, the party,
05:58first of all, Inshallah,
06:00our Khan will come back soon,
06:02I believe in my Allah,
06:04that he will open the way,
06:06when all the ways are closed,
06:08then many times,
06:10Allah opens the door.
06:12The thing is that the party
06:14has survived in such bad conditions,
06:16who were called mom and dad,
06:18who were told that they
06:20would not be able to tolerate
06:22the beatings for a month,
06:24who say that if you want
06:26the army to change their attitude
06:28about you, then you should
06:30also change your attitude.
06:32What do you say about this advice?
06:34Look, I don't think
06:36there is any bad advice
06:38about changing attitudes,
06:40but where there is bloodshed,
06:42and where there are dead bodies,
06:44there, as a human,
06:46you understand what the emotions
06:48of the people are,
06:50and where fascism has been
06:52So attitudes change,
06:54why not, when the opposition
06:56leader is telling you that
06:58whether it is a human or an angel,
07:00isn't it an indication that
07:02the attitude has changed?
07:04What more do they want?
07:06Okay, I think let's end
07:08on this positive note.
07:10Allah is saying that everyone's
07:12attitude should change,
07:14so that there is improvement
07:16about the country.