Pemerintah dalam hal ini Kementerian Koordinator Bidang Perekonomian mengungkapkan, PT PLN (Persero) saat ini telah menandatangani kerja sama dengan perusahaan global, yaitu dari Amerika Serikat dan Jepang untuk mengembangkan teknologi Pembangkit Listrik Tenaga Nuklir atau PLTN di Tanah Air. Kerja sama internasional antar perusahaan energi tersebut, terutama untuk rencana pembangunan reaktor modular kecil atau small modular reactor.
Menteri Koordinator Bidang Perekonomian Airlangga Hartarto mengatakan, saat ini hampir semua negara sudah mulai tertarik untuk menggunakan nuklir sebagai alternatif sumber energi listrik nasional. Selain memiliki waktu operasional yang cukup panjang, yaitu 10 hingga 15 tahun nuklir juga dinilai sebagai energi bersih dan biaya yang relatif kompetitif.
Sementara itu, negara lain seperti China, Rusia, Korea Selatan dan Perancis juga sudah menyatakan minat untuk berinvestasi dan membangun pembangkit listrik tenaga nuklir di Indonesia.
Menteri Koordinator Bidang Perekonomian Airlangga Hartarto mengatakan, saat ini hampir semua negara sudah mulai tertarik untuk menggunakan nuklir sebagai alternatif sumber energi listrik nasional. Selain memiliki waktu operasional yang cukup panjang, yaitu 10 hingga 15 tahun nuklir juga dinilai sebagai energi bersih dan biaya yang relatif kompetitif.
Sementara itu, negara lain seperti China, Rusia, Korea Selatan dan Perancis juga sudah menyatakan minat untuk berinvestasi dan membangun pembangkit listrik tenaga nuklir di Indonesia.
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00:23Hello, viewers. How are you?
00:24Live from IDX Studio in Jakarta,
00:26I'm Prasetyo Wibowo.
00:28Welcome back to Market Review,
00:30where we discuss the issues that affect Indonesia's economy.
00:33This time, we'll talk about the energy sector,
00:35where the government is still trying to develop
00:39and utilize nuclear technology
00:41as one of the alternative sources of electricity in Indonesia.
00:44What will it be like?
00:46Let's start the Market Review.
00:59Indonesia is still trying to utilize alternative energy
01:04to maintain national energy security,
01:06one of which is nuclear energy.
01:08State-owned power companies have partnered with global companies
01:12to build a small nuclear modular reactor.
01:19The government in this matter,
01:20the Ministry of Coordination of the Economy,
01:22has announced that PT PLN Persero has signed a partnership
01:26with a global company from the United States and Japan
01:29to develop a nuclear power plant technology
01:32or PLTN in the water.
01:34International cooperation between the energy companies,
01:37especially for the development of a small modular reactor.
01:42Minister of Coordination of the Economy Erlangga Hartarto said,
01:46almost all countries are interested in using nuclear
01:50as an alternative source of national electricity.
01:53In addition to having a long operational time,
01:5510 to 15 years,
01:57nuclear is also considered as clean energy
01:59and a relatively competitive cost.
02:02Almost all countries are now looking at nuclear,
02:07because it will be energy that can continue to be used for 10 years,
02:12even up to 15 years,
02:14because the system is considered as clean energy
02:18and with a relatively competitive cost.
02:22PT PLN has signed a partnership with the United States and Japan
02:27for a small modular reactor.
02:30This also needs to be seen
02:32to increase the support of our energy industry.
02:40Erlangga added that other countries such as China,
02:42Russia, South Korea and France
02:44are also interested in investing
02:46and building a nuclear power plant in Indonesia.
02:49Jakarta covered by IDX Channel.
02:55To discuss our interesting topic this time,
02:57Indonesia's readiness to build a nuclear power plant,
03:01we have analyzed together with Mrs. Nur Shamsy Sham.
03:05She is the Director of Radiation Management,
03:08Directorate of Installation and Nuclear Resources Management,
03:11BAPETEN, or the Nuclear Power Management Agency.
03:15Hello, how are you, Mrs. Nur?
03:17Hello, good morning. How are you, Mr. Pres?
03:20Thank you for your time.
03:23Before discussing further,
03:25we will ask for a brief review from you, Mr. Pres,
03:28related to the implementation of energy transition in Indonesia.
03:31Until now, where have you been?
03:33Remember, this has always been the focus of the government lately.
03:39From your point of view,
03:41we always follow various discussions
03:45on this energy transition,
03:48including the discussion of new and renewable energy,
03:54where nuclear energy is also one of the topics discussed in the RUU.
04:01In addition, we also see that in the Undang-Undang 59
04:04in 2024 about the RPJPN,
04:07the National Transition Energy Framework,
04:10energy transition has also been emphasized
04:13in each phase,
04:15up to IndonesiaMAS 2045 and PLTN
04:19is one of the ones that are included in the national energy transition.
04:23Maybe that's the review from BAPETEN related to this energy transition.
04:27Okay, speaking of challenges,
04:29what is it that still involves the government or is important
04:34if we are going to use nuclear energy?
04:38Which part do you see?
04:41From the challenge that we face now,
04:44BAPETEN, since it was formed in 1997,
04:49has actually prepared various regulations
04:52and systems for licensing, safety review,
04:56and others from the PLTN.
04:58But what is the challenge,
05:00maybe we can see from the infrastructure side
05:03and also the PLTN technology continues to develop
05:06to follow and increase safety.
05:09This is a challenge that we need to face.
05:12Yes, so how big is the challenge that we can still find a solution to?
05:18Indonesia's opportunity to use nuclear energy
05:22as one of the national energy sources,
05:25what is the potential and opportunity like?
05:28From the opportunity side,
05:30nuclear energy is indeed one of the energies
05:33with a very small greenhouse gas emission,
05:37CO2 is almost not releasing emissions in its operation,
05:42so to achieve net zero emissions,
05:45we think PLTN is one of the alternatives that is reliable,
05:50as mentioned earlier, it can operate for quite a long time,
05:53even up to 80 years now for one PLTN.
05:57Yes, so that's it.
05:59Okay, as mentioned earlier,
06:02the Minister of the Coordination of the Ministry of Finance, Erlangga Hartato,
06:04mentioned that PLTN has signed an agreement
06:07with a company from the United States, Japan,
06:10to build a small modular reactor, SMR,
06:14which you can explain further,
06:17what is meant by this small modular reactor,
06:21what is the difference with the electric generator
06:24that we always imagine is quite big for PLTN?
06:30So from the word small modular reactor,
06:34actually from the word small,
06:35of course there is something that is raised,
06:37the range is smaller compared to those that operate,
06:40those that operate currently up to 1,000 megawatts,
06:42or up to 1,400 megawatts per unit of PLTN,
06:46while small is up to 300 megawatts electric,
06:51then the modular means it can be constructed
06:55or built in the facility that makes the PLTN,
07:01it is ready there,
07:03just bring it to the location where it will be operated.
07:08If the large PLTN is currently being built
07:11in the location that has been determined,
07:13while this modular is being built,
07:16for example in America,
07:17if later the one that produces PLTN is in America,
07:22it has been assembled there,
07:25then brought to Indonesia,
07:27or if we produce it ourselves,
07:29later in the location,
07:30for example in Jakarta,
07:31it will be built in Kalimantan,
07:33just bring it there,
07:34so the modular is like that,
07:36so in addition to the small power,
07:38it is also compact,
07:39just install it like that.
07:41Okay, so it's like we buy a product,
07:44so the finished form has been sent,
07:46then just install it like that?
07:48Yes, for the modular like that.
07:51Okay, for the construction cost is also cheaper,
07:56then the installation time is shorter,
07:58but during the installation process,
08:00then enter the electricity network
08:02that you said up to 300 megawatts,
08:05what will the mechanism be like?
08:08Will it involve more wiring networks or others?
08:14In principle,
08:15PLTN is actually the same as fossil fuel electricity generation,
08:18or other PLTU,
08:20the only difference is in the energy generation
08:23using nuclear fuel,
08:25or nuclear fuel,
08:26later of course we have to see
08:28the adjustment of power
08:30with the network available in each area,
08:34and also maybe the purpose can be
08:36not only for electricity,
08:38but also for industries
08:40such as ammonia production and hydrogen,
08:43so in principle, it's the same as the electricity market,
08:46only the power is different.
08:48Is this SMR also easier and cheaper
08:51compared to PLTN,
08:52then how big is the need for the fuel itself
08:56from nuclear,
08:57we will discuss later in the next segment,
08:59we will take a break for a while,
09:01and Pemirsa, make sure you are still with us.
09:12Thank you for joining us in Market Review,
09:23and Pemirsa, we will continue to provide data for you,
09:25related to the law of nuclear energy in Indonesia,
09:28as a source of national electricity.
09:31The complete data can be seen on your television screen,
09:34there is a law number 17 in 2007
09:37on the planning of the national extension plan
09:39from 2005 to 2025,
09:41then the government regulation number 79 in 2014
09:45on the national energy policy,
09:47and PP number 14 in 2015
09:51on the national industrial development plan
09:542015 to 2035,
09:56then PP number 22 in 2017
10:00on the general plan of national energy
10:02and the plan for the supply of national electricity
10:05PLN in 2021 to 2030.
10:09Next, there are several plans
10:11for the development of the PLTN project in Indonesia,
10:15the first is the PLTN in Bangka Belitung,
10:17this company has PT Torken Power Indonesia,
10:20with a capacity of about 500 megawatts,
10:22the target is 2032,
10:24as soon as it can operate,
10:26the status is still on the ground.
10:28Next, there is the Small Modular Nuclear Reactor
10:31in West Kalimantan from PT PLN Indonesia Power,
10:35this has been mentioned earlier,
10:37it is in the SMR category,
10:40the target is 2030,
10:42the status is still under development
10:44in Bengkayang, West Kalimantan,
10:46together with Kemengko Prekonomian, BRIN, PLN,
10:50then from USDDA and New Scale Power Russia.
10:54And next, the potential and benefits of renewable energy in Indonesia,
10:58because we are overflowing with extraordinary natural resources,
11:02there is the sun, the potential is 3294 megawatts,
11:05while the benefits are around 675 megawatts,
11:09then there are sea waves, wind, bioenergy, water,
11:13and also the heat of the earth.
11:15Okay, we will continue the discussion again
11:17with Mrs. Nur Shamsy Sham,
11:19she is the Radiation Supervisor of AHLIMADIA,
11:22Directorate of Regulation, Supervision,
11:24Installation and Nuclear Resources of BAPTEN.
11:26Okay, Mrs. Nur, we will continue again,
11:29if we talk about some of the data
11:31that has been conveyed,
11:32as soon as the law is clear,
11:34we just need to implement it,
11:37and there are some projects that are also in progress.
11:41Maybe it can also be explained from BAPTEN
11:44regarding the current condition,
11:48regarding the projects or plans
11:50for the development of PLTN in Indonesia.
11:53Okay, maybe from the law,
11:56we can add the development of electricity energy itself,
11:59we have Law No. 10 of 1997
12:02on nuclear energy,
12:04which is currently in the process of change.
12:07Then, related to this PLTN,
12:10below it we have Government Regulation No. 2 of 2014
12:15on the Permission of Nuclear Installation
12:17and the Use of Nuclear Resources.
12:18This also regulates the development of PLTN,
12:21starting from the evaluation of the site,
12:24then the permit of the site itself,
12:26construction, commissioning, operation, decommissioning.
12:29So, BAPTEN has completely regulated
12:33the development and operation of this PLTN
12:36with three main aspects,
12:38safety, security, and safeguards,
12:41as we know it as safe guards.
12:45Then, for the current PLTN projects,
12:49we are accepting consultations
12:54from PT Torkon Power Indonesia,
12:56which we call the 3S consultation,
12:58safety, security, and safeguards,
13:02also with the design of PT Torkon Power Indonesia.
13:06In addition, we are also discussing,
13:09previously there was a discussion about the location itself,
13:13and now they have decided,
13:16earlier in Bangka Belitung,
13:18they need to review further
13:21from the preparation of the location,
13:24from the aspects of, for example,
13:27earthquake, then volcanology,
13:30then meteorology.
13:32There are six aspects that they have to evaluate,
13:36in Bangka Belitung,
13:38to ensure that the area is worthy to be built.
13:43It means that if it is built,
13:45it will not have an impact on the people and the environment
13:49in terms of safety and security, like that.
13:52So, based on the information from PT Torkon,
13:56they will propose a request to evaluate the site.
14:00So, we will check first,
14:03what will be done there.
14:05In addition, we as a government,
14:09also socialize with the people in Bangka Belitung,
14:14especially in the area around the PLTN location.
14:19Yes, like that.
14:21Well, it's interesting if we talk about
14:23the construction of nuclear power plants.
14:26From quite old years, as we know,
14:29there is still resistance in the community.
14:32And now, how is the condition?
14:34Has the community been able to accept the presence of the PLTN?
14:38Then we know,
14:40and the more massive the literacy is given,
14:42related to the use of the energy that has been given,
14:46that this has a lot of electricity,
14:49then it does not produce residue,
14:52or the result of processing from one PLTN, ma'am.
14:58Yes, okay.
14:59So, actually before,
15:01at that time we had the National Nuclear Energy Agency, BATAN,
15:06which is also a government agency in the field of nuclear energy.
15:12If we are supervisors,
15:14they have done a survey of the community,
15:19but it's been quite a long time, maybe in 2016.
15:22At that time, with respondents from all over Indonesia,
15:25maybe around 4,000 respondents,
15:28I don't remember the exact data,
15:31but if I'm not mistaken,
15:32more than 70%,
15:34actually the Indonesian community has been open
15:37or accepted the nuclear,
15:40because I think the education of the community is also increasing,
15:43they understand that this is a technology
15:47that BATAN does its job to ensure
15:50that the use of this nuclear technology
15:53will be safe and secure for the community,
15:56as well as for the environment.
15:58At the bank itself,
15:59if we socialize with the people around,
16:03in principle, they only emphasize that
16:07the term of their bright eyes will not be disturbed
16:10by the development of this electric power plant,
16:14then see how it will benefit them
16:18after there is an electric power plant in the country.
16:21Okay, what's interesting with the continuous development of nuclear technology,
16:24then now SMR is also a hit,
16:28is this more suitable in Indonesia?
16:30Because earlier it was said that this is easier,
16:33cheaper, with installation capacity
16:36which is not too complicated compared to building a power plant.
16:40Yes, so it depends on the electricity needs themselves,
16:44if in Indonesia,
16:45maybe for industrial areas,
16:47if there is a great need,
16:49maybe it will be more suitable to use
16:51generating electricity with high power,
16:53but for remote areas,
16:57then the electricity needs are not too big,
16:59in addition to small modular,
17:01there is even a micro below it,
17:03which is only up to 30 megawatts like that,
17:06later we will discuss the needs in each operation.
17:11Okay, this is interesting,
17:12and if we know how the mechanism is,
17:16how is the use and preparation of our SDM,
17:18we will discuss again later in the next segment,
17:20we will be back in a moment,
17:23we will be back in a moment.
17:42Thank you for joining us,
17:44and we will continue to discuss again
17:46with Ibnur Samsyusyam from BAPT.
17:48Ibnur, we will continue to discuss
17:50about the operational mechanism
17:53of a nuclear power plant,
17:56both small and large,
17:58what needs to be considered,
18:00what needs to be SOP very strictly,
18:04how sensitive is nuclear in the community until now?
18:12Yes, because indeed,
18:14nuclear power plants have a risk
18:17if there is an accident like that,
18:19because the supervision will be very strict,
18:23which is done by BAPT,
18:25and maybe not just BAPT,
18:26because we will also be seen by the international world,
18:29by the IAEA, like that.
18:32Well, because of the risk,
18:35then starting from the location determination,
18:40or the determination of the site,
18:42in short, we have to ensure that
18:45on this site there will be no potential
18:47that will cause the nuclear power plant
18:50to have an accident,
18:52for example, in Fukushima,
18:53we have to see the history,
18:55for example, the tsunami that happened,
18:57then the earthquake that happened,
18:59how big it was,
19:00so we have to check,
19:02so at this stage of the site,
19:04we already need SDM,
19:06which is important,
19:08for example, in the field of earthquake,
19:09hydrology, tsunami, like that.
19:12Then later, after the site,
19:15we also review the design,
19:17whether this design is in line with the site that has been chosen earlier,
19:21for example, if there is a potential earthquake there,
19:23with the speed of the earthquake,
19:25this must be anticipated by the design,
19:28so we at BAPT will also review the design
19:32to ensure that all aspects of the site
19:35have been included in the design,
19:38and also that if there is an abnormal condition
19:42from the operator later,
19:44the design will be able to cope
19:46with it quickly,
19:48both passively
19:50and maybe with some actions from the operator,
19:54so continue with this design,
19:56we also have many requirements for the design,
19:58then enter the construction,
20:00we will also,
20:02in addition to the permission of the PUPR,
20:04we will also review again,
20:07including how the safety analysis of the site is,
20:11then continue to the operation,
20:13in this operation,
20:15at this time I see that in America,
20:18PLTN, which was previously in the big peloton,
20:21the design was only up to 60 years,
20:23then reviewed again by America,
20:26one of these pelotons will be extended,
20:28for example, up to 80 years,
20:30so we can imagine
20:33that an installation will be 80 years old,
20:37there are many requirements
20:39that we have set
20:41for them to prepare,
20:44including how the potential of the components
20:48like this,
20:49even from the beginning they have to plan
20:51so that it can operate
20:53up to 40, 60 or 80 years like that,
20:57then after it's finished,
20:59it must be decommissioned
21:01and the environment must be returned as before,
21:04so maybe there are various things
21:06that must be prepared
21:09for the holder or owner of this PLTN,
21:12including the SDM,
21:14Mr. Peten will also give a license
21:17like that,
21:19to operate it,
21:21but we have a lot of experience
21:23with the operation of 3 reactors in Indonesia,
21:26we still do,
21:28even though our government has strict requirements,
21:31we also license the operators of the reactor
21:35in Terpong,
21:37and we also keep asking
21:39to update the natural conditions
21:41like that to see
21:43if there is a potential that can affect the reactor,
21:46so maybe SDM, SOP,
21:49which is very strict,
21:50safety analysis,
21:51we will ask for all of that,
21:52starting from the construction stage
21:54to the completion of the operation later,
21:56then the key fuel.
21:59Okay, that's it,
22:00it's very tight from A to Z
22:02and everything must be thoroughly investigated
22:05and monitored by Mr. Peten,
22:07as an Indonesian Nuclear Energy Supervisor,
22:09who is indeed a professional,
22:11so that safety, security and also military
22:13can be realized in every use
22:16of nuclear power plants.
22:18Okay, ma'am,
22:19unfortunately the time is limited,
22:20thank you very much for the time,
22:22then the latest update information
22:24related to nuclear energy in Indonesia,
22:26I hope this can also provide
22:28a new insight,
22:30for the community,
22:31when it comes to the development plan,
22:33electricity generation,
22:34which is indeed using
22:36nuclear energy for Indonesia in the future.
22:39Congratulations on continuing your activities again.
22:41Greetings, ma'am,
22:42see you again.
22:45Yes, viewers,
22:46don't leave your place,
22:47because in a moment we will return
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