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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum. Hello and welcome to Sports Room. I am your host, Najeeb Ulhasnain.
00:18Two wickets came in between. Pakistan came close to winning but could not win.
00:24To talk about this, we have with us former Test cricketer Yasir Arfaad.
00:28Yasir, Assalam-o-Alaikum. Welcome to the show.
00:31Walaikum Assalam. Thank you.
00:33Yasir, this year was not good for Pakistan cricket. But when we won two Test matches against England,
00:41we felt that our momentum has shifted towards us.
00:47Now, we will see some improvement.
00:49If we had won this match, we would have got a lot of confidence. What would you say?
00:54First of all, thank you very much, Najeeb.
00:56It was a very good opportunity for the Pakistan team to win this match.
01:03The last two wickets came in between.
01:06The partnership between Rabata and Jenson changed the result of the match.
01:11There were a lot of ups and downs.
01:13If we talk about the first inning, the second inning, the wrong shots of the boys,
01:17the team selection, there were a lot of things.
01:20But we should see that Abbas's performance was exceptional.
01:27And after three years, playing after a gap of three years,
01:31and the amount of criticism on his age and pace,
01:35Yasir, let's come to Abbas.
01:37Abbas did something extraordinary. We will talk about it in detail.
01:41In the beginning, the mistakes that we are seeing,
01:45First, don't you think that Pakistan's 211 was a little below par?
01:51If you had scored 250 or 260, this problem wouldn't have arisen.
01:55Then, when their inning came, after scoring 8 on 213,
02:00you got them to make a partnership of 88 runs.
02:03Then, the same thing happened the next time.
02:05They scored 8 runs and you didn't have any counter-attack.
02:09So, tell us about all these mistakes.
02:13Obviously, the score was low.
02:16Looking at the test cricket and Pakistan's experience batting,
02:20this score was not that high.
02:24But the condition was very difficult.
02:27But we have seen this in our players in the past.
02:30Whenever a good start is given to an experienced player,
02:35he doesn't convert it into a big score.
02:38If you look at the second inning,
02:41the way Shaan and Sam started,
02:44they should have converted it into a big score.
02:48Similarly, Babar threw his wicket and his wicket.
02:54Because of this, these things came in front of you.
02:57So, we have seen mistakes from both sides.
03:00If you look at the top order,
03:02apart from Mark Crum, we have seen other players struggling.
03:05But comparatively, their players are not as experienced as ours.
03:10Absolutely.
03:11I am saying this again and again.
03:13They were choking themselves.
03:16We were not ready to take it.
03:18We did not take advantage of their mistakes.
03:20There was no problem at 148.
03:23They converted it into a big score.
03:25I will tell you the score after the 50 and 84 runs of Saud Shakeel.
03:30After that, it was 3-1, 18-0, 9-0.
03:34If Rizwan and Salman didn't run,
03:38our tail would have been so long.
03:40If you look at the other teams,
03:43even if you look at the India-Australia test match,
03:46their tail is not ready to give up.
03:49They come forward and fight.
03:51I don't see any other team other than ours,
03:55whose tail is so bad.
03:59You can say a lot of things in this.
04:02Team combination, team selection,
04:04and boys being in and out of the team.
04:06Whereas, if you look at the tail of other countries,
04:10even if you look at the match of India-Australia,
04:13boys are fighting.
04:15The reason for this is that they play their domestic cricket
04:19and learn from there how to read the situation,
04:24how to play and perform.
04:26Whereas, our players seem to be struggling.
04:29Even if you look at Amir Jamal,
04:31he is fighting comparatively.
04:33If you look at him,
04:35even if he is eliminated in the 28th inning,
04:37he didn't have a score.
04:40But these are small things.
04:42Sometimes you make mistakes,
04:43other teams have also made a lot of mistakes.
04:46But Pakistan made more mistakes in this match
04:48because of which Pakistan lost this match.
04:50Shahan Masood says,
04:51we are repeating the same mistakes
04:53that we have made before.
04:55So, how did we improve?
04:56Let's see what he had to say.
05:00I have said that before that
05:01when we played in Australia in similar conditions twice,
05:04we had the mid-town
05:05and we thought we were in a reasonable position.
05:07And even with the bat,
05:08where we could have extended our first inning score,
05:11we could have extended our target.
05:13We keep making the same mistakes,
05:15but we have to get through the line.
05:16If we want to win games, finish off games,
05:18then we should finish off our batting and bowling innings as well.
05:21South was brilliant as well.
05:22Abbas was sensational.
05:24And those are the performances that win you a game.
05:26But unfortunately, we didn't really.
05:28Our sports correspondent, Shahid Hashmi,
05:30has joined us now.
05:31Mr. Shahid, how do you see this defeat
05:35that we were already knocking on the door of victory?
05:40Pakistan should have won,
05:41but they fought so much.
05:43When a team loses by fighting,
05:45it doesn't hurt that much.
05:46You scored 8 outs,
05:48and when the score was 96,
05:50148 to chase,
05:52and only 3 were out,
05:53you scattered them from there.
05:5699 for 8.
05:57Shahan Masood's approach is a bit more conservative.
06:01Even if he had bowled 1-2 overs,
06:04he had outed Makram on the last over.
06:06He would have bowled well on the medium.
06:08So when the speed changes,
06:10the bowler changes,
06:12then the tail-enders also try to take an advantage.
06:16In the entire test match,
06:17Salman didn't get Agha to bowl.
06:19Even though we kept saying
06:20that our front-line has become a spinner.
06:23He has outed.
06:24He has also outed on Monday.
06:25So in the entire match,
06:26we only got 16 balls from the spinner.
06:29South Africa didn't get any at all.
06:31But when the tail-ender gets caught,
06:33you have to take desperate measures.
06:35You should have done something different.
06:37Yes, we didn't do anything different.
06:39Absolutely right.
06:40Now let's take a little discussion.
06:42Let's go to Mohammad Abbas.
06:43He looked different.
06:45First, Yasir, I'll come to you.
06:47You were talking about Abbas.
06:49Please continue.
06:51Abbas has an interesting story.
06:54If you go back,
06:56when he played his last test in 2021,
06:59he was told that his pace is low.
07:02And his age.
07:03Look, he was told that he was 31 years old.
07:05At that time, his age has increased.
07:07So I ask those people
07:08who were on the cricket board at that time.
07:10The chairman started this talk
07:12and then it was implemented by the people there.
07:14He is still there.
07:15In some reference,
07:16there is a mentor in the Pakistan Cricket Board.
07:18There is a coach.
07:19The selector who was there at that time.
07:20That boys over the age of 35 should forget to play.
07:24Look, a lot of boys at that time,
07:26the first class,
07:27on whom there was an investment.
07:29More than half of the people left the country.
07:31This should be praised or praised by the Hampshire County,
07:35which was looked after by Abbas for the past three years.
07:38Otherwise, he would have left the country too.
07:40So this is an example.
07:42There are many such examples in the history of Pakistan cricket.
07:44Look with me.
07:45At the age of 26,
07:47he made me retire.
07:50In a way that his age has increased.
07:53When I played 119 matches in domestic,
07:58after playing first class,
08:00when I made my debut,
08:01that too after two matches.
08:03Look, Abbas was declared again after 31 years.
08:06He released me at the age of 26.
08:08So there are many such stories with the players that have happened.
08:12So now those people must be ashamed.
08:14Some are commentators,
08:15some are sitting on the Pakistan Cricket Board.
08:17They have disregarded such players.
08:21I am very happy to see those people,
08:23when they are feeling ashamed.
08:25I don't know where they are feeling ashamed.
08:27Mr. Shahid, the signal is going straight to Rameez Raja.
08:30And there are many such mistakes.
08:32Let's put this too.
08:33For more than 30 years,
08:34no matter how good the player is,
08:36he was not considered.
08:38What will you say?
08:39Sir, the selection committee,
08:41at that time, it was Mohd. Waseem.
08:43The entire selection committee is not of PCB.
08:47If you look at Abbas's career,
08:49he came in 2017.
08:51And in 2017-2018, there was great bowling.
08:53He won the test match against Pakistan in the Lodge in 2018.
08:57He won the test match against Ireland.
08:59Then in the 18th series,
09:00against Australia,
09:01in Abu Dhabi,
09:02he made 10 outs.
09:03In both the leagues, 5-5.
09:04And in the same series,
09:05he had a shoulder injury.
09:07From there, his career turned.
09:10His speed decreased.
09:11His strike rate,
09:12which was very good,
09:13in 30-32,
09:14his strike rate went up to 50.
09:16And then if you look at his test match performance,
09:192 tests against New Zealand,
09:202 wickets.
09:212 tests against South Africa,
09:235 wickets.
09:242 tests in England,
09:25where he is considered great,
09:275 wickets.
09:28Then 2 tests in West Indies,
09:306 wickets.
09:31So in 8 test matches,
09:32there were 18 wickets.
09:33And Abbas's career went down.
09:37Mr. Shahid,
09:38as you saw,
09:39even after taking 19 wickets,
09:41you didn't consider our spinners,
09:43that you won't send them there,
09:45because it doesn't suit the condition.
09:47So there are horses for courses.
09:49Abbas didn't play in Abu Dhabi.
09:51The condition didn't suit.
09:53Yasir, what will you say?
09:55No, Abbas made 10 outs in Abu Dhabi.
09:57Yes, yes.
09:58One second,
09:59Mr. Shahid,
10:00say something first.
10:01He made 10 outs in UAE.
10:02In UAE,
10:03he made Pakistan win
10:04against Australia in a test match.
10:06But I'm saying,
10:07after his shoulder injury,
10:09his performance graph,
10:10his strike rate,
10:11went down.
10:12Okay.
10:13But that doesn't mean
10:14that we should have
10:15barred him for 3 years.
10:16You're absolutely right.
10:17You're absolutely right.
10:18Yasir, what will you say on this?
10:20Yes, absolutely.
10:21What Mr. Shahid said is absolutely right.
10:23If a player's graph
10:24dips in performance,
10:25then whose job is it at that time?
10:27It's the job of Pakistan Cricket Board
10:29to look after their players
10:30and handle them.
10:31How do you have to
10:32handle your players?
10:33It's the same thing.
10:34When a player
10:35plays Red Ball for you,
10:37for example,
10:38Jimmy Anderson
10:39doesn't play T20,
10:40he plays one-day.
10:41How do you look after him?
10:43For example,
10:44I always talk about
10:45Jofra Archer.
10:46Even after his injury,
10:47the ECB gave him
10:48a Red Ball contract.
10:49So here,
10:50it was the job of
10:51Pakistan Cricket Board
10:52to look after them.
10:54Take care of them.
10:55Like you said,
10:56it's the same thing here.
10:5739 out of 40 wickets lost
10:59in two test matches.
11:00If you take spinners
11:01against England,
11:02it was a masterstroke
11:03of Aqib Javed.
11:04Despite that,
11:05in history,
11:06in the past,
11:07the top stars
11:08that you have made,
11:09you used to feed them.
11:10But here,
11:11the decisions are
11:12the same.
11:13Horses for courses.
11:14If you feed Abbas
11:15on Pindi's wicket
11:16or on Multan's
11:17or on these pitches,
11:18his effectiveness
11:19won't be this much.
11:20Absolutely right.
11:21Mr. Shahid,
11:22it's a matter of belief
11:23that we can't
11:24care for a player
11:25like that.
11:26Whether it's anyone's fault,
11:27if a person is playing
11:28in a certain format
11:29and he's not able
11:30to play well,
11:31and he has given you
11:32matches that he has won,
11:33then he should
11:34always be
11:35taken into consideration.
11:36He has wasted
11:373-3.25 years
11:38for that.
11:39We don't care
11:40for our players.
11:41And as Mr. Brijas said,
11:42Hampshire cares a lot.
11:43And there's a very
11:44interesting incident
11:45that in Hampshire,
11:46there's a hotel
11:47on the ground
11:48where the players
11:49stay.
11:50And in Hampshire,
11:51there's a suite
11:52given to Abbas.
11:53So when he came
11:54to play
11:55in the Manchester City
11:56Football Club,
11:57he was given
11:58a suite
11:59by Pep Guardiola.
12:00And he said,
12:01no, no,
12:02sorry,
12:03this is with
12:04Lord Abbas.
12:05So they care so much
12:06but we don't
12:07care for our players.
12:08We haven't done that.
12:09And it's also
12:10absolutely right
12:11that if you go
12:12in a conservative style
12:13thinking that
12:14in the Centurion,
12:15the top 14
12:16wicket-takers
12:17have only one spinner
12:18and that's
12:19Paul Harris
12:20at 14th number.
12:21So you have to
12:22defy
12:23history
12:24and data
12:25and prove
12:26it wrong
12:27too.
12:29If Shahid was
12:30in the form,
12:31he would have
12:32taken Shahid.
12:33If Maharaj was fit,
12:34South Africa would
12:35have given him
12:36100%.
12:37Thank you so much
12:38Mr. Shahid Ashmi
12:39for being with us.
12:40Yasir Arafat is with us
12:41now.
12:42Let's take a break.
12:43Don't go anywhere.
12:48Glad to have you
12:49back once again
12:50to Sportsroom
12:51in conversation
12:52with Yasir Arafat.
12:53And we'll talk
12:54to Yasir now.
12:55Today's match
12:56is over.
12:57It was a close
12:58game test
12:59between India
13:00and Australia.
13:01Australia won
13:02by 184 runs.
13:03The thing is
13:04it was a 99%
13:05draw match
13:06and Australia
13:07snatched the
13:08victory.
13:09Yasir,
13:10there are 7
13:11wicket-takers
13:12in the last
13:13session.
13:14How is that
13:15possible?
13:16That's why
13:17I say
13:18Australia is
13:19not a team
13:20but a mindset.
13:21What would
13:22you say?
13:23Look,
13:24the results
13:25that come
13:26out
13:27are
13:28not
13:29overnight.
13:30They
13:31plan for
13:32years.
13:33Players
13:34are prepared
13:35for the
13:36format.
13:37When
13:38the match
13:39was going
13:40on,
13:41I was
13:42watching
13:43Pat Cummins
13:44in the
13:454th
13:46innings.
13:47His
13:48speed
13:49in the
13:501st
13:51over
13:52was
13:53the same
13:54in the
13:554th
13:56innings.
13:57If you
13:58look at
13:59Mitchell
14:00Stark,
14:01he's
14:02bowling
14:03at the
14:04same pace.
14:05The
14:06results
14:07are not
14:08like that.
14:09Obviously,
14:10India
14:11also plans
14:12a lot
14:13but
14:14their
14:15home
14:16conditions
14:17are
14:18so
14:19crowded.
14:20In
14:213-4
14:22days,
14:23the
14:24players
14:25have to
14:26go from
14:27one place
14:28to another.
14:29After
14:30every
14:31series,
14:32people
14:33look for
14:34new
14:35spinners.
14:36Nathan
14:37Lyne
14:38has been
14:39the
14:40front
14:41line
14:42for
14:43a long
14:44time.
14:45He
14:46may have
14:47lost
14:48his career
14:49because
14:50of
14:51so many
14:52spinners.
14:53Now India is in a situation where they have to keep an eye on the results of other teams as well.
14:59So this is a very bad situation. What do you have to say about this?
15:05First of all, this World Test Championship system is a flawed system.
15:11The top 3-4-3, the big 3 issue, we are clearly seeing that
15:16England played 22 test matches last year.
15:19India and England played 17-18-16 matches.
15:22Whereas Pakistan played 11 matches.
15:24So this system is flawed and the big 3 issues are clearly visible.
15:29And if you look at the last two finals, these are the teams that played.
15:33New Zealand and India played first.
15:35After that, Australia and India played last year.
15:38And it is still a surprise that the team that played 11 matches,
15:42they must have been very shocked that a team like South Africa
15:47played 11 test matches and qualified.
15:49So this was a big shock for them.
15:51But it is good for other nations to give preference to their test cricket as well.
15:56If you qualify, you will have to give preference to it.
15:59You will have to play as many matches as possible.
16:01So this competitive cricket is increasing a lot now.
16:03Since this thing has come, your interest in test cricket and now you are playing to win the match.
16:09Everyone's thought is to win the match.
16:13So what do you have to say about the change in this?
16:15This is a very good thing.
16:17In fact, this thing that has come, England started this.
16:20After that, other countries have also seen.
16:22India is also playing aggressive, attacking test cricket.
16:25Similarly, look at the declarations.
16:27You often see the team's declarations.
16:29They do it by looking at the time, conditions, etc.
16:34Pakistan also tried a little.
16:36But you see, they do it by looking at their resources, their players.
16:41And the same thing is that we just have to learn from our mistakes.
16:44And we will not repeat those mistakes again and again.
16:46Thank you very much.
16:47Yasir Arfaat was with us and talked to him on all topics.
16:50I hope you liked the program.
16:52Give permission to your host, Najeeb Al-Hasnain.
16:54Take care of yourself. Allah Hafiz.