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00:00Welcome to Sports Room. I am your host, Najeeb Alasnain and today we have a very special guest with us.
00:20You all know him. Former fast bowler Jalaluddin is with us after a long time.
00:24Assalamu Alaikum Jalal bhai. How are you?
00:26Thank you Najeeb for the invitation. Again, thank you very much.
00:31You have come to America after such a long time.
00:36No, I come to America quite regularly. I come here once or twice a year.
00:43We will talk about that as well. Let's start with Cricket in USA.
00:48When Cricket started to get promoted, you went to USA at that time.
00:58Cricket is getting more exposure there and World Cup is a big step in stone.
01:04But my question is that there are a lot of challenges there. Major league, minor league, there are a lot of issues. What do you have to say about this?
01:11Yes, there are challenges. As you said, there is progress. Cricket is getting more popular.
01:18Youth cricket was not popular earlier. Now it is popular among youth.
01:21US cricket is following some structure. But now it is in initial stage and there are a lot of issues.
01:29You mentioned minor league and major league. These two events are better organized.
01:35There is a separate private firm called American Cricket Enterprise.
01:43It is a partner with US cricket but it plays a major role in this organization.
01:49There are a lot of infrastructure challenges. It is not ready yet. There is a lot of need for it.
01:54But if you talk in a long term, cricket is getting better.
01:59Direction is almost right but there is a lot of work to be done.
02:04There is a need to bring professionalism. We are lacking that at the level of US cricket.
02:09Utilizing the things that are available and reviewing everything is being lacked there.
02:18How much work is being taken from you there?
02:20Because I have also come to know that you have done your level 1 and level 2 there again.
02:25That was a refresher course for you and you have also done a tutor level there.
02:30So you have done everything there. Is it beneficial for you?
02:34First thing is that there is nothing wrong in studying.
02:37You can study at any level. But this repetition is a little interesting.
02:42Obviously, when I went from here, I had a qualification at the highest level.
02:46And I had training till level 2 of tutor which we train coaches.
02:51When I went there, my coaching was not there at that time.
02:55There were no qualified coaches trained by US cricket.
02:59Lately, they have developed a system which supports ICC.
03:03When I told them that I am already qualified, they told me to do it again.
03:10I didn't feel any harm in it.
03:12I did ICC level 1 and they told me to do tutor level 1.
03:17We want you to do it at our cost.
03:20I did tutor level 1 there.
03:22Now they are introducing level 2.
03:24I have completed the online version of it.
03:27So I don't have any problem in studying.
03:29I have sufficient knowledge.
03:30But there should be utilization too.
03:32Correct me if I am wrong.
03:37The lobby there is a little stronger for Indians.
03:41Yes, yes.
03:42There are 8 directors in the decision making board.
03:46All 8 directors are elected.
03:49But they are Indians.
03:50Pakistanis are doing cricket run before them.
03:53They have infrastructure.
03:55The stadium where I work, Moosa Cricket Stadium.
03:57It belongs to Pakistanis.
03:59Mr. Saqib Muhammad runs it.
04:01Similarly, Mr. Tanveer is a big businessman.
04:03He has a real cricket ground there.
04:06There is no stadium but he has 6 grounds.
04:08Similarly, you can go there.
04:10There is MAC in Florida.
04:13He has a cricket ground in LA.
04:17But the management board is not there.
04:22So no one listens to them.
04:24They are also upset.
04:25But I go there.
04:28Obviously, it takes time to settle.
04:30To convince people.
04:31I am doing my work from my level.
04:33I also do private coaching.
04:35I work wherever USA Cricket applies.
04:38Your relationship with Pakistan is not ending like this.
04:40Your Under 15 skill development program is going on here.
04:43And it is going on well.
04:45Will you get fruitful results from that?
04:47I should say this fully.
04:51I didn't go there and sit.
04:53I didn't finish my base here.
04:54But my base is in America.
04:56I am doing what I can do here.
05:00And I am doing what I say.
05:02If you take 10 years back from my first day.
05:06I had a stance that if our cricket is going to be good.
05:09Pakistan Cricket Board will have to invest in grass roots.
05:13Investment doesn't mean just spending money.
05:15You have to make the structure better.
05:18You have to make the event better.
05:20I am doing that work here.
05:22I have a helping NGO from there.
05:25I have sponsored a project here.
05:28It is of 3 years.
05:29It is for Karachi.
05:30I have picked Under 15 students.
05:32I am training them.
05:33They have just left the first phase.
05:35When you came last year.
05:37It started that time.
05:39Yes, it started that time.
05:40Now they are moving forward.
05:41They have good talent.
05:43They are developing.
05:44They are not just teaching cricket.
05:46They are building character.
05:47They are improving their overall personality.
05:50Now I have to take them to the next phase.
05:52That is why I am here for that work.
05:53And Insha Allah.
05:54We will make the first project of Pakistan.
05:58Like we developed coaches with Australian Certificate in Pakistan.
06:02We are pioneers in that.
06:03Pakistan Cricket Board doesn't develop coaches like we did.
06:06They are working in Pakistan.
06:09We are used to do it.
06:11We have done hat trick and many programs.
06:14That is why I am very happy.
06:16I will suggest Pakistan Cricket Board.
06:18I have done it again and again.
06:20They should invest here.
06:22You will see your cricket will change in 3 to 5 years.
06:25It will be a good result.
06:26You will be happy with cosmetic surgery and phases.
06:29Cricket will be good.
06:30It is not going to happen.
06:32You talked about phases.
06:33Pakistan Cricket has phases.
06:35We went to South Africa.
06:37Our performance was good in our limited overs.
06:39In test match, we went to South Africa and Australia.
06:45Our condition was bad.
06:47It happened this time also.
06:49We got a chance to win in Centurion.
06:51We didn't capitalize there.
06:54Because of that we lost 2-0.
06:56How do you see the series?
06:58I will say test series is your poor performance.
07:03Ultimate team means to win.
07:07If you miss an opportunity, it is the worst thing.
07:11It is not a problem of today.
07:14Last year or 2 years ago, we could have won 1-2 test in Australia.
07:19We could have won in home series.
07:21We lost the winning match.
07:23You have to understand why we lose.
07:26You have to see.
07:28It is a game of mental side.
07:32When you start winning, you give up.
07:36Or you are happy that you won.
07:39In cricket, you have to change your body language.
07:43You have to make efforts.
07:45You have to plan.
07:47We are lagging here.
07:49When we come close, we are not happy.
07:51But we are happy.
07:53It is a lack of mental development.
07:56It is difficult to pinpoint.
07:58This is not the South African team.
08:01You had a clear chance to win.
08:05In the first test, you took 8-8 wickets.
08:08Then you let the match go.
08:11In the first test, you had 8 wickets.
08:15Then you let the debutants run.
08:17In the second test, Rabada won the match.
08:21In the second test match, you were not able to out.
08:26Your bowling was one-dimensional.
08:28Your batting was disappointing.
08:30Mistakes can be seen in every field.
08:33Whenever there is a bowling condition.
08:40Whether it is swimming or turning.
08:44Both are bowling pitches.
08:46You are shooting the bowlers.
08:48Our batting is exposed there.
08:50The reason is.
08:52Wherever there is a bowling pitch.
08:54The technique and sound is good.
08:56Everyone will have a problem.
08:58But those who have a good technique.
09:01They manage better.
09:03We have a lot of problems.
09:05Wherever there is a bowling pitch.
09:07The problem of technique is exposed.
09:09But it was not like that in Cape Town.
09:11There was no such thing.
09:13You did not do what you had to do in Cape Town.
09:17When there is no bowling pitch.
09:22It will be difficult for you to bowl.
09:25It is difficult to out.
09:26You did 600 runs.
09:28They understood.
09:29Bring them on the flat wicket.
09:31Their chances of winning will be more.
09:34When such a big score comes first.
09:37You have to under pressure.
09:39To win a team.
09:41Either they out early.
09:43Or make a big score.
09:46We have more flaws.
09:48Another thing I felt.
09:50When you are playing at this level.
09:53Where your pitches are not supported.
09:56Your fielding.
09:59It supports you.
10:01You have to make a half chance.
10:03If the catch falls here.
10:05It falls ahead.
10:06If the fitness level was good.
10:08You could have caught it.
10:10We can't grab opportunities.
10:13Half opportunity.
10:14In today's world.
10:15In today's modern cricket.
10:16You have to do it.
10:17We saw the 4th test of Australia.
10:19They caught the catch.
10:20They defeated India.
10:22It seemed impossible.
10:23The point is.
10:25In terms of fitness.
10:26In terms of skill.
10:28We are behind the top teams.
10:31We don't believe it.
10:32Until we don't believe it.
10:34Until we are right.
10:35When we are right.
10:36We can perform better.
10:38To believe it.
10:39We tell your stats.
10:40To believe it.
10:41We tell your results.
10:43I have felt it.
10:44I have heard it on TV.
10:46Tell me the reason for losing.
10:48The first reason is.
10:49We are below them in comparison.
10:52You have to believe it.
10:54If you do well in a phase.
10:56You won't think your cricket is good.
10:58Cricket is good in the long term.
11:00If you believe it.
11:02You can do better.
11:04We think England has lost 2 tests.
11:06In that frame.
11:08It was a good decision.
11:09You need consistency.
11:11You need consistency.
11:12You need a plan for consistency.
11:14Right now.
11:15You have to follow the horses for the courses.
11:17You have to follow that.
11:18If Abbas made 6 outs.
11:21Did he deserve a second match?
11:24I am giving an example.
11:26Did he deserve it?
11:28You have to judge that.
11:29Did he have to play spinners or not?
11:31This decision making.
11:32Got it.
11:33We are lagging behind.
11:34Let's talk about captaincy.
11:36We used to joke.
11:38Who will be the chairman in the ICC meetings?
11:41Zaka Ashraf or Najam Sethi?
11:44We have changed the captain.
11:47Shahan's results are not good.
11:49But he has made runs.
11:52I don't think he has any other option.
11:56In test cricket.
11:57What do you think?
11:59First of all.
12:00What are the available options?
12:03You have to see that.
12:05The second prerequisite.
12:07For a captain or leader.
12:09Is that.
12:11The leader.
12:13Can influence the players or not?
12:17Political leaders influence the community.
12:21Sports leaders.
12:23Coach or captain.
12:24Can influence the players.
12:26How do they influence?
12:27There are two things.
12:28Either your power position.
12:30Like a captain.
12:31The board is supporting you.
12:32You have control.
12:33You are very strong.
12:34The players should agree to what you say.
12:37Or you are a good performer.
12:39Convince them with your wisdom.
12:41Do what you say.
12:44And they agree.
12:45These two things are prerequisites.
12:48For captaincy.
12:49There is a leader.
12:50There is a coach.
12:52We have seen.
12:54The power position.
12:56Is not strong.
12:58Will he be in the next season?
13:00Will the captain support the board?
13:02We are not able to influence.
13:04The players.
13:06Through the power position.
13:08It is weak.
13:10You can see.
13:11How the board talks.
13:13The second position.
13:15Your performance is good.
13:17You have improved a little.
13:19There is no consistency.
13:21He can convince with his words.
13:23These two things are not there.
13:25He is not fulfilling the prerequisites.
13:27If he had taken good decisions on the ground.
13:30He would have covered the prerequisites.
13:33He did not do that.
13:35You can see.
13:36The ground.
13:37Body language.
13:38The captain.
13:39Especially when there is a DRS.
13:41Who should I ask?
13:42What should I do?
13:43Decision making.
13:44If you note the players.
13:46Their actions.
13:47They are going towards Rizwan.
13:49Shahan Masood is the captain.
13:52Everyone should come to him.
13:54He should be seen.
13:56We see the wicketkeeper.
13:58He is in a better position.
14:00The control of the player.
14:02The mindset of the players.
14:04To support the captain.
14:07The influence.
14:09If he is not there.
14:10He is lagging.
14:11The second thing is.
14:13There is no option.
14:15If you ask me personally.
14:17Shahan Masood.
14:18He is not a good test player.
14:20He is a white ball player now.
14:22He has learned a little from England.
14:26He is not that skilful.
14:28You think he should be in one day?
14:30He should be in one day.
14:32He should be different from the test.
14:34If he is not in the test.
14:36He is not a test cricketer.
14:38The level of the captain.
14:40You are saying a better one day player.
14:42White ball is a better option for him.
14:44Let's take a commercial break.
14:52Glad to have you back once again.
14:54We are back in the sports room.
14:56In conversation with former fast bowler Jalal Uddin.
14:58We are talking to Jalal.
15:00We were talking about test cricket.
15:02About Pakistan's test team.
15:04The next test is against West Indies.
15:06Our home series.
15:08We are expecting some changes.
15:12Imam ul Haq's name is coming up.
15:14Obviously when we play in Pakistan.
15:16Sajid Khan will come back.
15:18Jalal.
15:19This is a very important question.
15:21Making a turning track.
15:23Bringing foreign teams here.
15:25This is not a solution.
15:27To improve our cricket.
15:29According to me.
15:31In WTC cycle.
15:33Neither West Indies nor us.
15:35We should give a chance.
15:37To our young talent.
15:39To whom we want to trust.
15:41We should go with a different approach.
15:43Don't you think so?
15:45When we brought them back.
15:47We brought them back.
15:49Pakistan was desperate.
15:53They took a decision.
15:55Which they paid.
15:57I told them.
15:59You played with them.
16:01They took 39 wickets in 40.
16:03Now they are a burden on you.
16:05Performance wise.
16:07They are a burden on you.
16:09Like you didn't play with Noman.
16:11Sajid Khan stayed here.
16:13You couldn't bring him back.
16:15Horses for the horses.
16:17But your policy should be.
16:19Like you said.
16:21Temporarily.
16:23It suited you.
16:25You got a click.
16:27You won.
16:29Temporary solution.
16:31Can't be used all the time.
16:33It was for that time.
16:35Temporary solution.
16:37It was a solution.
16:39You got exposed.
16:41In South Africa.
16:43My point was.
16:45It's a matter of planning.
16:47You have to plan.
16:49If you want to do something in short term.
16:51What to do in long term.
16:53It's more related to management.
16:55How to plan.
16:57In this series.
16:59It's not important for both.
17:01If someone wants to try.
17:03I am not in favor.
17:05I have been watching you.
17:07For 2-3 years.
17:09You try every player.
17:11You don't know if it's good or bad.
17:13Exactly.
17:15You can't do this with every player.
17:17You should have the wisdom.
17:19Among the top performers.
17:21Which has international material.
17:23You should give them a chance.
17:25In domestic performance.
17:27There are other ways to try them.
17:29It's not necessary in test match.
17:31The real problem is.
17:33We had a guy like Fawad Alam.
17:35If you are going on your own.
17:37You are not watching his performance.
17:39Fawad Alam.
17:41Was not a domestic performer.
17:43He was an international player.
17:45When he was dropped.
17:47You should understand the criteria.
17:49The established players.
17:51Like Babar Azam.
17:53People were dropping him.
17:55It's not right to drop an established player.
17:57You should sit with him.
17:59Talk to him.
18:01Ask him.
18:03If he says he doesn't want to play.
18:05You can give him rest.
18:07But we have a trend.
18:09When a player is not performing.
18:11We ignore him.
18:13Which is wrong.
18:15In modern days.
18:17We don't know how to manage.
18:19The way to drop a player.
18:21Is different.
18:23And the way to select a new player.
18:25Is different.
18:27An extraordinary performer.
18:29Deserves it.
18:31You have to see how to do it.
18:33Thank you Jalal.
18:35Thank you so much.
18:37Jalal was with us today.
18:39I hope you liked the program.
18:41Take care.
18:43Allah Hafiz.