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00:00Well, I guess I'll wait for him while I look at this picture book.
00:10Japanese food.
00:13Speaking of him, it's gourmet food.
00:21There's a lot of delicious-looking food.
00:27I'm hungry.
00:30Oho.
00:33Japanese food is elegant and good for your health.
00:42If he's a gourmet, he'll eat a lot.
00:49Ah.
00:51I want to hear a lot of stories from him.
00:57Tokyo.
01:00A book cafe specializing in books is located in a quiet corner of Tamagawa.
01:09Surrounded by over 1,000 books, which reflect the true nature of Japan,
01:15they talk about the past and the future.
01:20It's okay.
01:21Even if you're listening in,
01:23the two of you, who are so absorbed in conversation,
01:26probably won't notice.
01:43Hey.
01:44What's this?
01:46Chinese food.
01:48Welcome.
01:49I want to see it.
01:51What's this?
01:53Thank you for coming.
01:55Thank you for inviting me.
01:57It's a busy place.
01:58It's a world-class soup.
01:59Are you interested in soup?
02:00No, I'm not.
02:01You're not?
02:02That's no good.
02:03I wonder if you're interested.
02:05I'm interested in soup.
02:06Soup is a must in this cold winter.
02:10I used to eat it in France.
02:13In France.
02:14Onion gratin soup.
02:15Onion gratin looked delicious.
02:17You've had onion gratin soup before, right?
02:20Of course.
02:22It's a basic dish in French restaurants.
02:27You can tell the quality of the restaurant just by looking at it.
02:31Is that how it is in France?
02:33It takes a lot of time and effort.
02:36I see.
02:37If you try to finish it quickly,
02:40the quality of the restaurant will drop.
02:43That's how important soup is.
02:45Can I talk?
02:46Go ahead.
02:48It's like a scene from a movie.
02:51Shut up.
02:52I don't know if miso soup is made of shishio miso or rice miso.
03:00But it's all about miso soup.
03:03I don't know why they made soup stock.
03:05But the effort to make soup is visible.
03:10I'm sure you've heard of it.
03:12Yes, I have.
03:13It's like a scene from a movie.
03:15That's right.
03:17That's the theme of this movie.
03:20It's like a scene from a movie.
03:27Director.
03:29It was great.
03:31I watched it.
03:32Did you?
03:33Of course.
03:34Was it?
03:35It was fun.
03:36Thank you for saying that.
03:38I'm hungry.
03:40I'm hungry.
03:42Are you looking for soup?
03:44My mother made soup for me when I was a kid.
03:47She asked me to drink it again.
03:51Why?
03:52I'm hungry.
03:55There is no border between soup and me.
03:58But I forgot something more important.
04:01I'm hungry.
04:07What do you think of the restaurant?
04:09How is it in Korea?
04:11It was held at the Busan Film Festival.
04:15There were 5,000 seats.
04:20I laughed a lot.
04:22I saw it.
04:25I'm happy when I laugh.
04:28There are many fans of the program in East Asia.
04:34There is a remake of the program in Taiwan.
04:39There is an actor who plays the role of a child.
04:42I appeared in it.
04:44Koreans love me.
04:48I'm very grateful.
04:50I'm more popular than in Japan.
04:54I see.
04:56I'm doing this.
04:58I eat this.
05:00It's fun.
05:02In Korea, there was no culture of eating alone.
05:07Korean food has a lot of small plates.
05:12We ate together.
05:15There was no such thing as eating alone.
05:17It's rare.
05:18It was rare.
05:23Is it a lonely gourmet?
05:27It's almost late at night.
05:30No one is watching.
05:32It's just an old man eating.
05:35I said it was okay.
05:37I'll do it.
05:39I don't think it's going to be a hot topic.
05:43It's full of programs.
05:47How did you feel when the offer came?
05:51I thought Matsushige had a good eye.
05:56Monologue is good.
05:58I was surprised.
06:05What was Matsushige's role?
06:07I decided the opening with a monologue.
06:12I was a good actor.
06:14I'm a bad actor.
06:17I was wandering around the neighborhood of Ekota in that time.
06:22There was a tall person.
06:25There were more people.
06:28It was around the same time in the neighborhood of Ekota.
06:33I was happy to be invited by Matsushige.
06:36We talked on the bus.
06:39I thought, was that so?
06:41The meeting was the worst.
06:43In the elevator of TVXQ.
06:47I thought it was the first meeting.
06:49I thought it was Mr. Wada of the爆笑問題.
06:52Suddenly, he looked at me and pointed a gun at me.
06:55I thought it was a model gun.
06:58Suddenly, there was no one to point a gun at.
07:02I thought it was a mistake.
07:05I was invited to the radio again.
07:09I was lonely.
07:12I'm doing a repeat broadcast.
07:16I don't know how many weeks I've been doing it.
07:19I've been watching it all day.
07:22It's a waste of time.
07:25Mr. Ota.
07:27You have your own work.
07:30You have a job.
07:32You don't have time to be lonely.
07:35I watch it a lot.
07:38It's addictive.
07:41What would you do if you ran into yourself?
07:44I'd be nervous.
07:46How was it?
07:48I thought it was a good play.
07:51It's nasty.
07:53I thought it was a good play.
07:56It's a great response.
07:59Mr. Ota is playing a good role.
08:02I thought it was a joke.
08:05All the young staff were on guard.
08:08I thought it was a joke.
08:11I thought it was a joke.
08:14I thought it was a joke.
08:17I thought it was a joke.
08:20I thought it was a joke.
08:24Did you want to be an actor?
08:27Did you want to be an actor?
08:30I'm jealous of Mr. Matsushige.
08:33He's a great director.
08:36He's a great director.
08:39I'm jealous of Mr. Matsushige.
08:42I was in the bus.
08:45I was in the bus.
08:48I was in the bus.
08:51Mr. Matsushige said to me,
08:54Mr. Matsushige said to me,
08:57I'm a friend of Mr. Ota.
09:00I'm a friend of Mr. Ota.
09:03I'm a friend of Mr. Ota.
09:06I'm a friend of Mr. Ota.
09:09I've done it four times.
09:12I'm a father-daughter role.
09:15I'm a father-daughter role.
09:18There are many actresses.
09:21I want her to be on the show.
09:2440 years of experience as an actor,
09:27I have an image of acting.
09:30I have an image of acting.
09:33I want her to be on the show.
09:36I want her to be on the show.
09:39There are five of them.
09:42Mr. Uchida, Mr. Oda,
09:45I really like them, and I can't help it.
09:51When you write, you have to cast your imagination.
09:55I read the novel, Laughter of Humanity.
09:59You read it?
10:01I was casted.
10:04I wrote the novel, Laughter of Humanity.
10:07The main character, Fujimi, is a Japanese prime minister.
10:13I was casted in a movie with Shige Matsushige.
10:19In the movie, I felt like I had a little advantage.
10:25I was like, I'm going to beat you up.
10:27No, that's not true.
10:28I was against it, so I read this book.
10:31It's thicker than a soup.
10:34I read this and thought, if the main character is good, I'll do it.
10:37No, no, I didn't say that.
10:40When I was writing, I wanted to make a movie.
10:45I was wondering who would fit in.
10:47I was writing with the image of Shige Matsushige.
10:50That's a lot of work.
10:53That's right.
10:55But you're doing it as a team.
10:58If I do it as a team, I don't know where to cut the episodes of that part.
11:04Don't you cut it?
11:07It's really hard to do it all.
11:10It's interesting.
11:12I know what it's like to write a short story while thinking that it's impossible to make it into a movie.
11:21But that's supposed to be a movie, and you're writing it as a novel.
11:27It's the opposite.
11:28First, I wrote a scenario.
11:30There was a scenario.
11:31There was a scenario.
11:33At the time of the scenario, it was a failure.
11:38I was told by the movie company that I couldn't do it.
11:42At the time of the movie scenario, I was told that it would take about five hours.
11:49But I was frustrated, so I made it even bigger and it became that amount.
11:55You increased it.
11:56The scenario was the beginning of the original book.
12:01I added the details of the characters.
12:06When I realized it, it became that thick.
12:10But if I could get an award like the Naoki Award or something,
12:18I wrote it with the expectation that there might be a movie.
12:24Originally, it was for the sake of the movie.
12:31The story of the movie
12:37Matsue-san also wrote it in an essay.
12:41The movie I was doing for a long time at an old movie studio is gone.
12:51Now I'm working on a video distribution service.
13:02But I want to leave a movie.
13:06If you don't leave a movie,
13:10It's good for everyone to do it individually,
13:13Going to a movie theater in the dark,
13:16For example, with popcorn and coke,
13:20It's hard to stay here for two hours.
13:27Everyone is laughing, so I feel warm.
13:32I'm looking forward to hearing the sound of the stomach of the person next to me.
13:41It's okay to watch it at home, but you have to leave a movie.
13:46It's important to go to see live music.
13:50Recently, there are many young musicians who listen to records instead of CDs.
13:57In that sense, there are things that you have to do.
14:09When I saw the movie, I thought it was like a movie.
14:20Matsue-san's thoughts are very straightforward.
14:24It's not like this.
14:28It's like a movie.
14:31It's different from a movie and a TV drama.
14:36It's like a movie and a TV drama.
14:42It's often used as a theater version.
14:46I didn't like it, so I made it a theater movie.
14:49The movie is a movie.
14:52I asked the director to make an offer for this movie.
14:59I didn't ask anyone to make a movie.
15:03I asked the director to make a movie.
15:08I need a director who can do that.
15:12In Japan, there are a lot of big distributors.
15:19There are a lot of publishers.
15:22I don't want to make a movie that's just a little gorgeous.
15:31I don't want to make a movie that's just a little gorgeous.
15:39I want to make a movie that's just a little gorgeous.
15:42I want to make a movie that's just a little gorgeous.
15:51Mr. Bachino had a bad story, but I fought without quitting.
15:58I have to tell everyone the story of this movie.
16:00I have to tell everyone the story of this movie.
16:08You're in the mood for history.
16:11It's hard to have a passionate story like that.
16:17For example, in the movie, there's a scene where Goro Inokashira devours Shinbo.
16:24In Mr. Ota's world, it's a completely different kind of passion.
16:30I don't know if it's possible or not.
16:34I don't know if it's possible or not.
16:37But if it's possible, I think it's possible.
16:40But if it's possible, I think it's possible.
16:44He's a good actor.
16:46He doesn't have to eat.
16:49I didn't eat this time.
16:51But I think it's okay.
16:53But I think it's okay.
16:54I've been doing it for 10 years.
16:56I've been doing it for 10 years.
16:58I've been doing it for 10 years.
17:01So I can betray or make it happen.
17:05So I can betray or make it happen.
17:14I can't believe it.
17:16It's amazing.
17:17It's amazing.
17:18There's a magazine store full of files here.
17:21For example, Matsuke's movie is interesting.
17:24How was it?
17:25How was it?
17:26Vegetable making
17:27I made vegetables.
17:28You made vegetables?
17:29I made them.
17:30I made vegetables.
17:31I made them.
17:32I made them in a small yard at my house.
17:35The bugs were coming.
17:36The bugs were coming.
17:37I was making vegetables.
17:38The bugs were coming.
17:39I was making vegetables.
17:40I used to grow vegetables in my father's garden, but now there are bugs and I can't grow vegetables, so I'm trying to grow vegetables with pesticide, but I can't because there are bugs, so I have to use pesticide.
17:51So it's really difficult to grow vegetables.
17:55I have to watch it every day.
17:57What kind of vegetables do you grow?
17:59Okra is fun.
18:01Okra is also in the movie.
18:03Okra is made by putting the tip up and sticking it out.
18:09You can do it with that feeling.
18:12Okra is fun.
18:15When I was shooting, I talked a lot with my sister.
18:19We were in the same time zone.
18:22I told her that I like the drama of Mr.Kuze.
18:28I thought I was a good friend of Mr.Matsushige.
18:35I thought I was a good friend of Mr.Matsushige.
18:43You were shot at first.
18:45I was close to him.
18:51I think the scenery I want to see is close to him.
18:58At that time, we were longing for our seniors.
19:02We wanted to do this kind of drama, this kind of movie, this kind of comedy.
19:06But our seniors are gone.
19:08There is no Mr.Kuze and no Mr.Taichi in the drama.
19:12If you have a goal...
19:14For example, when we were young, we couldn't talk unless we were on TV.
19:22Now, young comedians have their own YouTube channel.
19:28That's a lot of views.
19:32Even if I do a live broadcast,
19:36There are quite a few people.
19:38If you say a lot of people, it's a lot of people.
19:42There are quite a few people.
19:45There are quite a few young people who don't care about TV.
19:53On the contrary, Mr.Matsushige and us...
19:58Especially for comedy, I longed for two people.
20:02There was a Hiokin tribe.
20:05I wanted to do that.
20:06Mr.Sanma, Mr.Takeshi, Mr.Tamori.
20:08I've been doing it because I wanted to do that.
20:13In the end, what I longed for so much...
20:17I wonder if our generation couldn't make it.
20:22That's right.
20:25The same goes for the Japanese economy.
20:27I'm in my 30-year-old generation.
20:33It's a lot of responsibility.
20:36We didn't do anything.
20:39You've been left behind in so many other countries.
20:42That's right.
20:43I'm told I'm left behind in everything.
20:45I can't just say,
20:47I'm going to retire and I'm old.
20:51I'm sorry. I haven't been able to do it before.
20:55I have to fix it again.
20:58I'm glad you said that.
21:00For example, movies.
21:03We've been watching it on the spot for 40 years.
21:09I just want to fix it a little bit.
21:14That's right.
21:16Our generation...
21:20We have to turn it around a little bit.
21:23Someone...
21:24It won't end.
21:26Mr.Takeshi made a movie and revolutionized it.
21:31It's the older generation who did it.
21:34It's the generation who watched it.
21:37If you look at those people,
21:40We're weak.
21:41That's right.
21:43But it's a very low-budget movie.
21:48That's right.
21:49I've been building up little by little since then.
21:54There's history.
21:57Cost performance.
21:59I think there's a part where you can clear it with your ideas.
22:05Like America.
22:10You don't have to use VFX or anything like that.
22:13That's right.
22:14Some of us get a lot of awards.
22:18It's like soup.
22:21I'm going to spend a lot of time making something delicious.
22:26I'm going to bring it to soup.
22:29There's a good thing about Japanese production.
22:35We've let go of that and played with it.
22:40I think we'll have to get back to handcrafting.
22:45When we were young,
22:48Mr.Matsuke said he liked ATG.
22:53At that time, it was said that Japanese movies were for companies.
22:58But the directors of the directors' companies said it was for companies.
23:05Even now, there are a lot of great works.
23:12At that time, it was said that young people couldn't do it.
23:17But there were rules and values for making things.
23:24There were times when we were called new people.
23:32But in the end, we couldn't turn anything around.
23:36That's what's crazy.
23:40Everyone's getting old at 60.
23:44We didn't do anything.
23:47It's not like it's going to be in the movie.
23:51The moment we changed the history of entertainment,
23:56I don't think we're at that time.
24:00I don't think so, but I don't think Mr.Matsuke is.
24:04Mr.Oda is trying to change it.
24:09That's amazing.
24:12It's like a connection with Mr.Matsuke.
24:17It's not a normal cut.
24:22It's a way to make a movie.
24:32Shall we make a movie?
24:34Shall we?
24:42In the same generation, there was Kouki Mitani.
24:49He was in Sunshine Boys at first, right?
24:51Yes, he was.
24:52Sunshine Boys was a well-made play that was not recognized as a play at that time.
25:02Mitani was a broadcaster at that time.
25:06It was a revolution for us to do a play with a well-made play.
25:16There was no such thing.
25:18Mitani was an antithesis to do a play with a well-made play.
25:33I was in a relationship with a well-made play.
25:40Mitani was going to do a play with a well-made play, but I wanted to do a play with a well-made play.
25:51But you did a play with a well-made play.
25:53Yes, I did a play with a well-made play.
25:55I did a play with a well-made play until I graduated from university.
25:58It wasn't a well-made play.
26:00I was in the Meiji era, so I did a well-made play with a well-made play.
26:04The reason I did a well-made play with a well-made play was that there were a lot of old men.
26:08Anyway, there was no ticket policy.
26:10I see.
26:12But Mitani became a broadcaster.
26:17I was a broadcaster and did a play with a well-made play.
26:21I did a play with a well-made play.
26:28I thought I was doing a well-made play to do this kind of work.
26:33So Mitani said, I'm doing a well-made play in a different direction.
26:36At that time, you didn't want to appear on TV.
26:40I didn't want to appear on TV.
26:44I wanted to do something interesting in a play.
26:47I wanted to do a movie.
26:50It was interesting to watch TV dramas, but I didn't think I was going to appear on TV.
26:56I see.
26:58You started to appear on TV from a certain point.
27:01TV is different from theater and movies.
27:06It's a matter of course.
27:09I can't do crazy things.
27:12I like crazy music.
27:15I can't express that on TV.
27:19But I felt that KUZE and Daichi Yamada were revolutionizing the world of TV.
27:28But I didn't think I was going to appear on TV.
27:32So I didn't appear on TV until I was in my mid-thirties.
27:36Did you go crazy in your mid-thirties?
27:38Yes.
27:40I didn't want to appear on TV.
27:43I didn't want to work part-time.
27:48I didn't want to work part-time.
27:50I didn't want to live without working part-time.
27:53Did you work part-time at a Chinese restaurant?
27:55I worked at a Chinese restaurant for 600 yen.
27:58I couldn't feed my family.
28:00So I worked part-time at a Chinese restaurant.
28:03I worked part-time at a Chinese restaurant for 30 yen.
28:06I didn't want to continue acting.
28:09I didn't want to continue acting.
28:13So I decided to appear on TV.
28:16I thought Mr. MITANI would use me.
28:19I was a young actor at that time.
28:24I was a little older than Mr. KARA and Mr. TERAYAMA.
28:30I thought you were close.
28:32I'm a nomad.
28:34Are you a nomad?
28:36Yes.
28:38Mr. KARA and Mr. TERAYAMA were not normal.
28:48But you were a pop star.
28:52You were not normal, but you were a pop star.
28:55You played with words.
28:58You ran around a lot.
29:02At that time, I went to the Honda Theater and Kinokuniya Hall.
29:08I went to see all the performances.
29:13I thought you were amazing.
29:17But I'm not the type to do that.
29:21You don't just go in.
29:23I don't just go in.
29:25He's smart.
29:31You have to work on your logic.
29:34You have to play with words.
29:37I thought it was impossible for me.
29:40It's interesting.
29:42I don't know how to talk about it.
29:48It's a little difficult.
29:50Mr. Noda's world is very special.
29:53That's right.
29:55I admired Mr. Noda's acting.
29:58If I were to do it, I would do it.
30:03I've said it before, but I'd like to do it.
30:07I was looking at that.
30:11At the time of En, Mr. HASHIZUME was doing the main role.
30:20Mr. HASHIZUME's name was called HASHIZUME-ISAO.
30:25It was called HASHIZUME-ISAO in Japanese.
30:29It wasn't like that at the time.
30:32But when I saw HASHIZUME-ISAO's performance,
30:35It's like Chekhov or Shakespeare.
30:39It's a little deliberate.
30:44Mr. HASHIZUME came out of Chekhov's mask.
30:49I don't know what you're talking about.
30:52Mr. HASHIZUME's tone was very realistic.
30:57I admired his acting.
31:03I wanted to do that kind of play.
31:08It's a great era.
31:10I was able to see that.
31:12The overwhelming power of the older generation.
31:18It's a play that goes far beyond society.
31:24I was fascinated.
31:26I admired that kind of play.
31:48As Mr. HASHIZUME said,
31:50TV plays can't do the real thing.
31:57I was at NHK a while ago.
32:00Mr. AKIRA EMOTO.
32:02That's what I'm talking about.
32:06Workshop.
32:08I saw it.
32:09Wasn't that amazing?
32:11I love Mr. EMOTO.
32:13Mr. EMOTO is amazing.
32:16I saw the play from the back.
32:21I saw people.
32:23I thought it was me.
32:26A young girl who is aiming for a play.
32:31Just come out.
32:32Yes, it's different.
32:33I'm not saying that.
32:35I'm scared.
32:36Young people are like that.
32:38Why did you come out now?
32:40It's amazing what you're saying.
32:43I understand.
32:45I came out.
32:47I have no choice but to do something.
32:50Mr. EMOTO, no.
32:53There are no more people who say that.
32:57I can't even say that I did it while being thrown away.
33:05I was asked if I would do such a thing.
33:09I just did it.
33:13I want to say that it's good or bad.
33:18I can't say that.
33:21When I read your essay,
33:25I'm worried about compliance.
33:30I'm worried.
33:32Mr. OTA, you do it, too.
33:34I understand.
33:36I'm a person who gets angry.
33:39It's out of the game.
33:41It's out of the game.
33:45I don't feel like I'm being used.
33:47I don't feel like I'm being used.
33:50I don't think I can do it.
33:52I don't think I'm doing it.
33:54I get angry.
33:56You have to resist it.
34:00I can't do it.
34:03I can't say anything.
34:05I can't say anything.
34:07If you can't say anything,
34:09you're not a performer.
34:11That's right.
34:13I'm here to do something.
34:15I'm here to say something.
34:17I can't say this.
34:19If I don't say this, no one will see it.
34:23I think TV is really difficult.
34:26Is there anything?
34:28Is it a movie?
34:30Is it a broadcast?
34:32Is it just a theater?
34:34But what I really want to do is...
34:36In our time,
34:38love and peace, right?
34:40Love and peace again.
34:42Love and peace, right?
34:44Mr. OTA's book is like that.
34:46Love and peace are important.
34:48Love and peace are important.
34:50I think it's our theme.
34:52I think it's our theme.
34:54I think it's our theme.
34:56I think it's our theme.
34:58I think we have to make sure
35:00that we don't get confused.
35:02It's difficult, isn't it?
35:04It's really difficult.
35:06It shouldn't be difficult.
35:08It shouldn't be difficult.
35:10It's so easy.
35:12Why is it so difficult?
35:14Why is it so difficult?
35:16After all, it's a show.
35:18I have this feeling.
35:20I want to make it like this.
35:22The most important thing in a film
35:24is how to express it
35:26using filters.
35:28is how to express it using filters.
35:32Sphinx
35:36Sphinx
35:40In the 50s and 90s,
35:42Japanese rock
35:44In the 70s,
35:46it was a band in Fukuoka
35:48called Sunhouse.
35:50The old man was in front of the Shinaroke.
35:54This was our charisma.
35:59It's nostalgic.
36:00Ayukawa died in the 70s.
36:04The other day, I was with Zazen Boys' Shutoku Mukai.
36:09We were reading the books we wrote and playing music.
36:16We did that at Billboard Yokohama.
36:19It was very interesting.
36:21Mr. Ogoda was with a rock musician.
36:27Laughter and rock.
36:30This is difficult.
36:31I can't do it.
36:33When we debuted, we were in a band called Tama.
36:38Mr. Kera was in a comedy troupe.
36:42Mr. Kera.
36:44U-Go-Otsu always invited us.
36:49We were in a band and laughed.
36:51The audience was completely different.
36:54When we went out, everyone went to the bathroom.
36:57Did you do it at that time?
36:58I was doing it.
37:00Nagomu.
37:03I also did a live performance.
37:05Did you do it?
37:07It was terrible.
37:10The temperature was different.
37:14I thought I was going to do a performance.
37:18I remembered that I failed.
37:20Was it painful?
37:21It was painful.
37:23I have a lot of painful memories.
37:35Your Ushio.
37:38It's amazing.
37:40Mr. Shige.
37:42I saw the garden.
37:45I thought it was a good place.
37:48The garden.
37:49The temple.
37:50The temple.
37:53When I was shooting in Kyoto, Japan.
37:57There are many temples like this.
38:02I wondered what it meant to have Japanese people here for hundreds of years.
38:09I thought it was comfortable.
38:13I thought I didn't have to think about unnecessary things.
38:17Thinking about unnecessary things is the most painful.
38:22I think Buddhism gives me a hint that I can be free to think.
38:31It's not a religion where you can be saved if you believe.
38:34It's not a religion where you can be saved if you believe.
38:36That's cool.
38:38It's rock and roll.
38:40It's rock and roll.
38:41When it comes to music.
38:45Mr. Hiroto and Mr. Shidaoka did it the other day.
38:52We went there together for the promotion.
38:57We still have the judgment of whether it's rock and roll or not.
39:08What I saw when I was in my 20s with Mr. Ota.
39:15It's been in my mind for a long time.
39:20The scariest thing is that the boy who lived in Ekota at that time said,
39:25The scariest thing is that the boy who lived in Ekota at that time said,
39:28I'm not funny.
39:29That's right.
39:30He said it to himself.
39:31He said it to himself.
39:33I think it's cool if I'm not ashamed of myself.
39:38I think it's cool if I'm not ashamed of myself.
39:41I think Mr. Ota is cool now.
39:48I don't know.
39:52I had a solo live performance of manzai yesterday.
39:59I did manzai non-stop for 1 hour and 50 minutes.
40:06It's been 36 years since I became a manzai poet.
40:10I make new stories every month.
40:13I do it almost every month.
40:17I did it yesterday.
40:20I was talking with Mr. Tanaka.
40:23I was talking with Mr. Tanaka.
40:26I've been doing it for 36 years.
40:29I was sick yesterday.
40:32I couldn't speak the tone I wanted to speak.
40:35It's a basic thing.
40:38I've been making the same mistake over and over again for 36 years.
40:43I couldn't do it yesterday either.
40:48I really don't have any progress.
40:51Greed is always high.
40:54Greed is always high.
40:57But that's definitely a good thing.
41:00In that sense, Mr. Tanaka, whose name was mentioned earlier,
41:05I've been doing the show with him all the time.
41:11I'm already a master of rakugo at the age of 30.
41:19I'm already a master of rakugo at the age of 30.
41:23But I'm not good enough to complain.
41:27When I was in my 40s,
41:30I was told by my master that I was not good enough.
41:33I kept wondering if it was okay.
41:36I was told that I didn't have to think about anything until I was 50.
41:41But when I got closer to my 50s,
41:44I was even more confused.
41:47This is what happened to me.
41:50I was told that I should do something like that.
41:53But I was told I had to go to 60.
41:56So I was relieved.
41:59But now I'm already trying to be 60.
42:03I can't really imagine what I should do.
42:06I don't think I've seen you often in real life,
42:11but by the way...
42:14I don't watch a lot of boys' shows in real time, but when I watch a video, I feel that boys' shows are very different from what they used to be, and I feel that they are lost.
42:33It doesn't feel like they're showing a completed performance.
42:38Rather than being completed, I feel that they are doing it while thinking, this is not how it should be done.
42:50I think Mr. Oda intentionally conveyed that to me.
42:54But the level of confusion is high.
42:58From a young person's point of view, Mr. Oda's level of confusion is much higher.
43:03Look at the young man's manzai. He's really good at it now.
43:07He's good.
43:09The same goes for the actor.
43:11The actor is really good.
43:13He's getting better.
43:15He's really good. Please give some advice to the young people.
43:19No, it's not about giving advice.
43:21We have the experience of being told by the older generation that our time was like this.
43:29That's not good.
43:33I think Mr. Matsushige should make it from now on.
43:39He's already 60.
43:41That's why.
43:43Let's do it.
43:45If Mr. Matsushige tells me, I'll do it.
43:51Let's do a detective drama together.
43:55That's good.
43:57I'll do it properly.
43:59I know you'll do it.
44:01Really?
44:03I'll do it.
44:05If there are people watching, please do it.
44:07Now, how was the time surrounded by the figures?
44:13I was able to confirm the sharing of the same smell.
44:23If I say something like this, there is a possibility that it will come true.
44:31I want to express it properly again.
44:35At that time, I was just looking at Mr. Gota as an actor from the producer's point of view.
44:45It seems that he still has potential, so I wanted to expand it as much as possible.
44:53I couldn't stop talking. It was fun.
44:57Mr. Matsushige is a cool guy, isn't he?
45:01When he usually comes out, he says,
45:05Actually, it's a lump of desire.
45:11I was very happy.
45:13Let's do something big.
45:15It's a bit of a perverted story.
45:17I hope I can do something like that.
45:27It might not be the right time.