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00:00I repeat it again, Camila would have broken up.
00:05She asked to say what she knows only to the judge.
00:10It was time, dear.
00:13She asked to say what she knows only to the judge.
00:19As that cannot be done, the judge turned a blind eye to the prosecutors
00:24because they would incur a false testimony.
00:29She could have been arrested.
00:31But now she said she knows something.
00:34This just happened.
00:36Hanson asked Camila for security
00:40because knowing the intention to tell Camila something
00:44could be risky.
00:46Pay attention to this.
00:48Latest news in the case of Lohan.
00:53Camila would have broken up.
00:56Hanson could have...
00:58Can you call Hanson, guys?
01:00Call the lawyers.
01:01Call someone.
01:02This just happened.
01:03The information has just arrived.
01:06According to Article 275 of the Argentine Penal Code
01:12it is established that the witness, expert or interpreter
01:14who declares, reports, translates or interprets a falsehood
01:18or denies or hides the truth
01:20will be imprisoned for a month to four years.
01:24False testimony crime.
01:26It is established when a falsehood is stated,
01:29a truth is denied or a truth is hidden.
01:33In this case, Camila Núñez
01:36would have hidden a truth.
01:39Pay attention to this situation.
01:42What just happened is serious.
01:45What just happened is serious.
01:48We are calling Hanson.
01:50We are also trying to locate Dr. Gallego.
01:55We should talk to the person who will have to accompany Camila.
02:00Cotaya, Cañete, out of the game.
02:03Both are under investigation.
02:05Here we see the image of Cañete.
02:07But now, Camila...
02:09And I open the table to the game.
02:11At this moment,
02:13either arrested or a protected witness,
02:16if I guide myself
02:19by the article
02:21as it says,
02:24I read it again.
02:26Article 275 of the Criminal Code.
02:31In the Argentine Republic, it is established that the witness
02:35or the witness, expert or interpreter
02:37who declares, reports, translates or interprets
02:40a falsehood or denies or hides the truth
02:43will be repressed with a prison sentence of one month to four years.
02:48False testimony crime.
02:50It is established when a falsehood is stated,
02:53a truth is denied or a truth is hidden.
02:57What did Camila tell the judge?
03:00Camila asked to say what she knows only to the judge.
03:05She is hiding a truth.
03:07And yes, if she doesn't say, she is hiding something.
03:09Now, what I say is
03:11beyond what I change.
03:15Why does it happen at this moment?
03:17Because at the time...
03:18Because of pressure.
03:19Ah, well.
03:20Ah, well, that's it.
03:21Because I say, at the time, she didn't say...
03:23At the time, this lady didn't say she was distrustful of the audience?
03:27She said so many things, Camila.
03:29Camila said so many other things.
03:31Well, and why is this happening now?
03:34I agree with the reading of Puebla.
03:37Hanson asked for security.
03:39It was perfect, but the truth is that a young person,
03:43because Camila is a young person...
03:45She has a nine-year-old child.
03:46Exactly.
03:47How can she be silent?
03:49If she really needs to talk to the judge now,
03:52because how is she going to say it before?
03:54How did she let this time pass?
03:56I don't know what she's going to say,
03:58but the truth is that these people are a mess.
04:02These people, this family,
04:04I don't say all of them,
04:05but the vast majority of this family,
04:06I said it from the first day this case started,
04:08is a mess.
04:09It can't be that they know things and keep quiet.
04:12And such a small creature,
04:14maybe...
04:15I don't want to think about it.
04:17I don't want to think about it.
04:18What can Camila say, Ale?
04:20What do you think?
04:22Camila should say everything she hasn't said so far.
04:25What did she do with Audelina in a statement to Camila?
04:28In a statement to Camila,
04:30she escaped and they got to Anaranjal.
04:32Yes, without a doubt.
04:33Without a doubt.
04:34A shame.
04:36Without a doubt.
04:37Without a doubt.
04:38Well, if a person...
04:39Without a doubt.
04:40If a person can know where Lohan is now,
04:43the judge has to call her automatically
04:47and give her security.
04:48No, according to the prosecutor.
04:49According to the prosecutor.
04:50Well, the prosecutor now and give her security.
04:53Because she has the ball in her hands.
04:56If this person knows where Lohan is now,
05:00she has to say it.
05:03She has to declare it.
05:05And she has to be certified before the court.
05:08First, the prosecution.
05:10And with that corroboration, of course,
05:12the file has to be added.
05:14But I don't understand
05:16how she's not in the prosecutor's office now.
05:19Yes, yes.
05:20Or because it's Sunday?
05:22Yes, because the only thing missing is a party, Sunday.
05:26It seems that nobody cares about the creature.
05:29They only care about each one of them.
05:31It's an incredible thing, this case.
05:34She's a woman too, to be taken seriously.
05:36On top of being a woman.
05:37On top of being a woman.
05:39What strikes me the most is that she's a woman
05:41with a creature that knows something,
05:43hiding something.
05:44A woman.
05:45I don't want to say that women are better than men,
05:48not at all.
05:49I don't want to say that.
05:50It's just that we have children inside
05:52and we have a sensitivity
05:53a little special when we have the child,
05:55when we give birth.
05:56These people seem to have not given birth.
05:58What do you want me to tell you?
05:59This woman already testified.
06:01Yes, in September, I think.
06:02She already testified.
06:03That is, she already gave a version of the facts.
06:05Of course.
06:06Or at least what she knows.
06:08Now, if she already testified,
06:11she already gave her version of the facts,
06:14and now she wants to declare again
06:17because she has the truth in her hands
06:20or because she wants to expand what she said,
06:22she should automatically be summoned.
06:25Do you think that to expand to this extent?
06:28We will know when she is in front of the prosecutors.
06:32I would also ask Ale.
06:34We will know in due course.
06:36What do you think, Ale?
06:38What do you think about what may be happening?
06:41If you are in an urgent situation, guys,
06:43when you are in an urgent situation,
06:44excuse me.
06:45I'm here to talk to you,
06:46but I don't know how to give information.
06:49Let's see, attention,
06:50because this, let's say,
06:52to avoid legal problems,
06:53it's all a potential, yes?
06:54Potential, yes.
06:55All a potential, let's say.
07:03Stop, huh?
07:05Attention.
07:06Let's see, we have connected Dr. Hanson.
07:10Hanson, good afternoon.
07:11Welcome to Vivo El Domingo.
07:14Tell me what you can, doctor.
07:15I, well, the information is coming out.
07:18Tell me what you can.
07:20Tell me, please.
07:21This is an urgent moment.
07:24Hello, Ale, how are you?
07:25First I want to know,
07:26I don't know what you said.
07:27You weren't,
07:28excuse me,
07:29I wasn't watching your program.
07:30I just put it on because of the call.
07:32I read the text, doctor.
07:33I don't know what I have.
07:34I read the text and you tell me
07:36that yes and that no.
07:37But what is the news?
07:39It's information,
07:40and you can lie to me or not.
07:42And I read it.
07:44Camila asked to say
07:45what only the judge knows.
07:47As that cannot be done,
07:48the judge saw the prosecutors
07:49who would incur the false testimony
07:51and it arose that she could
07:52submit to the figure of a protected witness.
07:55And here, in this part,
07:56of this that happens to me, they say,
07:58Hanson asked for security for Camila.
08:02Is that so, doctor?
08:04Of course.
08:05What happens is the following.
08:06That is, the false testimony
08:07is given in two ways.
08:09Either when he lies,
08:10it is proven that he is lying,
08:12or when it is proven that he knew
08:14and did not tell.
08:15Of course, the doctor was not watching.
08:16I just read article 275, doctor.
08:19That's what you say.
08:20Of course.
08:21The finger of false testimony
08:22is configured when
08:23a falsehood is affirmed
08:24or a truth is denied
08:26or a truth is hidden.
08:28Exactly.
08:29Of course.
08:30That is why before that,
08:31the judge has decided
08:32to take a two-hour look,
08:33that is, to pay attention
08:34to the urgency of the situation.
08:37And my request was, yes,
08:38that before that,
08:40the security of the witness
08:41is also reinforced,
08:42because obviously
08:44you have to preserve
08:45what you can say,
08:46which can be something
08:48that helps define
08:50what happened here or not.
08:52We will know that
08:53the day we declare.
08:55Is it normal, doctor,
08:56that you ...
08:58How many cases have you done,
08:59Hanson?
09:00It is well known.
09:02That someone tells you,
09:03to the judge,
09:04look, I want to talk
09:05only to you.
09:07Yes, yes.
09:08That happens normally.
09:10Knowing that it is wrong.
09:11You can't do it.
09:13No, what happens
09:14is that there are media causes out there.
09:18That's why I don't know
09:19what I think you talked about,
09:21the protected witness
09:23is one of the variants
09:24that has been used
09:25when,
09:26beyond the specific law,
09:28in which case it may be,
09:30by analogy
09:32and by request
09:34reasonably founded,
09:35the circumstances
09:36in which the case has taken place
09:38in other crimes
09:39for which it is not intended.
09:41Because normally
09:42that type of figure,
09:44the protected witness and others,
09:46are the crimes of
09:48drug trafficking,
09:49extortion kidnapping,
09:51very specific.
09:52Marcelo,
09:53I say,
09:54I was analyzing
09:56when she declared
09:57that it was in September
09:59the inconsistencies
10:01of her statements.
10:03Now I say,
10:04evidently,
10:05because you just marked
10:06and I read the article
10:07Pueblas,
10:08or for saying something false
10:09or for hiding.
10:11I don't know what you see,
10:12what you feel,
10:13what can happen.
10:15Now,
10:16if you asked to speak
10:17for something,
10:18it's not going to be something
10:19that shoots a bomb, right?
10:21Yes,
10:22but also
10:23the behavior
10:24that she has had
10:25during all this time
10:26to the press.
10:27Back and forth.
10:29Yes,
10:30as she was always
10:31asking for a microphone
10:32and right there
10:33you analyze,
10:35you look in the networks
10:36the statements,
10:37there is a lot of coherence.
10:39And what can you mean,
10:40Doctor?
10:41No, I don't know.
10:42I don't understand.
10:43Because
10:44in this case
10:45I am surprised every day
10:46No, no, no,
10:47I know,
10:48but from what you are saying,
10:49it's true, son,
10:50she went and came
10:51to the press
10:52and there were a lot
10:53of inconsistencies
10:54because the truth
10:55is that nothing coincides
10:56with anything.
10:57But what does it mean
10:58that you may want
10:59to talk to the judge
11:00to go out
11:01to the press?
11:04How?
11:05Or did I get it wrong?
11:06No, no, no,
11:07I don't want to say anything,
11:08I say what I'm saying,
11:09I hope
11:10that this statement
11:11is taken
11:12in whatever way
11:13it is possible
11:14and if not,
11:15well,
11:16that the prosecutors
11:17advance with what they estimate
11:18that was given
11:19and the circumstances
11:20for the crime
11:21that they accuse
11:22and continue
11:23the case
11:24moving forward
11:25because, I mean,
11:26we can't
11:27wait for it
11:28to be decided
11:29to talk or not
11:30to decide
11:31to talk
11:32to a witness.
11:33Doctor,
11:34if she decides
11:35to declare now,
11:36should you be present?
11:37Are you going to ask
11:38to be present
11:39or can you do it
11:40without anyone
11:41being present?
11:42No, no,
11:43I mean,
11:44that's what
11:45the judge
11:46explained
11:47that she can't
11:48take the statement
11:49in secret
11:50because
11:51all the parties
11:52have to be present.
11:53We already wrote
11:54the summary secret,
11:55there is no special
11:56situation
11:57requested by the prosecutors,
11:58so,
11:59any testimony,
12:00all the parties
12:01have the right
12:02to be present,
12:03both the one
12:04who accuses
12:05and the one
12:06who defends.
12:07That Camila declares
12:08in this instance,
12:09Doctor,
12:10would you favor
12:11your defendants?
12:12And I have no idea
12:13what she's going to say,
12:14I mean,
12:15so far,
12:16all the statements
12:17that there are,
12:18none
12:19of them
12:20are specific
12:21to Ramirez
12:22and Millampi,
12:23the only thing
12:24you have heard
12:25is from the
12:26accusatory part,
12:27they give their version,
12:28but if you know
12:29the case,
12:30read the testimonies,
12:31there is nothing
12:32more than their
12:33presence in the place.
12:34Could she be arrested,
12:35Doctor?
12:36I mean,
12:37in the case
12:38that she says
12:39something that
12:40until now
12:41she was keeping quiet,
12:42surely the article
12:43she just read.
12:44No,
12:45that would be
12:46the case
12:47that she persists
12:49I don't know
12:50what the judges
12:51are going to do,
12:52we heard that
12:53they already answered
12:54La Vista,
12:55because it was
12:56with a very short time,
12:57usually it is
12:58three days,
12:59and the judge
13:00cut due to urgency.
13:01Yes,
13:02but if she says
13:03something now
13:04that she has been
13:05keeping quiet
13:06until now,
13:07that's my question,
13:08could she be arrested?
13:09Well,
13:10but I'm not going to
13:11make a conjecture
13:12about what
13:13she can say.
13:14No, no,
13:15of course,
13:16in the case,
13:17I'm not going
13:18to make a conjecture
13:19about what
13:20she can say.
13:21No,
13:22but if she
13:23hid something
13:24until now,
13:25and one is in
13:26a crime,
13:27and she says it,
13:28she says it
13:29in what we just
13:30read,
13:31well,
13:32that's why,
13:33but it's here,
13:34in what we just
13:35read,
13:36obviously
13:37she's not going
13:38to be able
13:39to say it.
13:40She's the one
13:41who asks to declare,
13:42she's the one
13:43who asks to declare,
13:44and it's not
13:45the judge
13:46who testified.
13:47No,
13:48in this case,
13:49she herself
13:50is the one
13:51who says,
13:52sorry,
13:53I want to speak.
13:54Why?
13:55Because she knows
13:56where Lohan
13:57is now?
13:58Because she knows
13:59what happened
14:00at that moment,
14:01at that lunch?
14:02Because she knows
14:03that there is
14:04someone who is
14:05directly involved
14:06in the disappearance
14:07of Lohan?
14:08No,
14:09those are all
14:10conjectures
14:11that one can make,
14:12you can make them,
14:13but there is
14:14nothing of that.
14:16But she's the one
14:17who asks to declare.
14:18She asks to speak
14:19with the judge.
14:20No, no, no.
14:21She asks to speak
14:22in private with the judge.
14:23But in private,
14:24what?
14:25As if she were
14:26a friend?
14:27I don't know.
14:28Well,
14:29apparently
14:30it's something
14:31that she has,
14:32it's serious,
14:33because she's even
14:34asking to be guarded,
14:35or she's trying
14:36to keep an eye
14:37on the prosecutors
14:38because it's not
14:39a big deal.
14:40If not,
14:41she wouldn't have
14:42kept an eye
14:43on the prosecutors.
14:45But let's not
14:46conjecture
14:47about what she
14:48can tell us.
14:49I mean,
14:50that's a circumstance
14:51that deserves
14:52a treatment.
14:53It's the treatment
14:54that the judge
14:55gave her
14:56and it's what
14:57she should do
14:58because it's like
14:59she says,
15:00I know something,
15:01but I say it
15:02under these conditions.
15:03What happens,
15:04doctor,
15:05is that
15:06more than
15:07seven months,
15:08eight months
15:09ago,
15:10we were waiting
15:11for someone
15:12with the truth
15:13to come out
15:14and tell us
15:15where Lohan
15:16is now.
15:17If a voice
15:18like Camila's
15:19appears
15:20to say,
15:21I raise my hand
15:22and I want to
15:23talk to the judge,
15:24effectively,
15:25one thinks
15:26that she has
15:27a transcendent
15:28truth
15:29to communicate
15:30that brings us
15:31closer
15:32to what happened
15:33and, effectively,
15:34to where
15:35Lohan is now.
15:36And that's why
15:37we need
15:38a conjecture.
15:39It's still
15:40a very elaborate
15:41conjecture
15:42that I respect,
15:43but it's still
15:44a conjecture.
15:45We don't know
15:46what she's going to say
15:47or what she can say.
15:48No, correct.
15:49But as the information
15:50about Sunday
15:51breaks out
15:52in this
15:53noon,
15:54one obviously
15:55has to,
15:56from the
15:57journalistic
15:58point of view,
15:59think that
16:00it's a key
16:01information
16:02that this woman
16:03has to raise
16:04her hand again
16:05after having testified
16:06and say,
16:07I want to meet
16:08with the judge
16:09because I have
16:10something to tell her.
16:11And I'm not going
16:12to tell her
16:13in public.
16:14Yes, one
16:15conjecture,
16:16one...
16:17I mean,
16:18excuse me,
16:19it's not that she has
16:20a truth under her poncho,
16:21then.
16:22That's why,
16:23I'm not going to
16:24confirm anything.
16:25All I'm saying
16:26is that it's a
16:27conjecture
16:28that I respect,
16:29yes, yes,
16:30but it's a conjecture.
16:31No, I mean,
16:32because Macarena
16:33also, I mean,
16:34there are several
16:35characters
16:36who contradicted themselves,
16:37right?
16:38But, obviously,
16:39we'll have to
16:40talk about this
16:41later.
16:42Because here,
16:43everything we're
16:44talking about,
16:45I think that,
16:46Marcelo,
16:47it ends up
16:48taking out
16:49the main focus
16:50that there is
16:51a lost baby
16:52more than six months ago.
16:53Totally.
16:54I mean.
16:55As it is.
16:56Yes, yes, yes.
16:57In that,
16:58it seems to me
16:59that there was
17:00an absolute coincidence,
17:01right?
17:02Yes, yes,
17:03as it is.
17:04That's why
17:05I wouldn't give
17:06importance
17:07to conjectures
17:08that are going
17:09to happen.
17:10But I can't
17:11conjecture,
17:12get excited
17:13today,
17:14seven months
17:15that someone
17:16is going to come
17:17and tell us
17:18what happened.
17:19I hope it happens.
17:20I hope.
17:21Well, Hanson,
17:22thank you very much,
17:23as always,
17:24very kind.
17:25Benito Cachito,
17:26Benito Cachito,
17:27we'll continue
17:28two minutes
17:29on the subject.
17:30Attention
17:31to what
17:32may happen.
17:33Okay?
17:34A woman
17:35who has lied
17:36in the statements,
17:37a woman
17:38who has lied
17:39in other media,
17:40has lied to me.
17:41And now,
17:42what does she say?
17:43She grabs Ponce del Peso
17:44and says,
17:45judge,
17:46I want to talk to you.
17:47Two minutes.
17:48No,
17:49you can't,
17:50dear.
17:51I want to tell you something.
17:52What?
17:53Something I know.
17:54No,
17:55you can't tell me.
17:56Automatically,
17:57the judge,
17:58as Hanson said,
17:59because it is
18:00a relevant case,
18:01prosecutors
18:02take notice
18:03and you have
18:04to see
18:05what Camila says.
18:06And you have
18:07to be
18:08sure
18:09of what she says.
18:10Otherwise,
18:11she'll say,
18:12look,
18:13in the end,
18:14the orange ones
18:15were purple.
18:16Yes, yes.
18:17Okay?
18:18Well the orange ones
18:19are purple.
18:20Okay.
18:21But if you say that
18:22she was wrong,
18:23she says,
18:24I can't tell you,
18:25this really happened.
18:26This really
18:27happened.
18:28This really happened.
18:29I hope so.
18:30Why?
18:31Because of this.
18:32Yes,
18:33I hope so.
18:34This is important.
18:35Okay?
18:36As one prays to all the saints,
18:39nothing should be left to chance.
18:41Nothing.
18:42Nothing.
18:43Nothing.
18:44Nothing.