Ingrid Grudke confirma su separación tras descubrir un engaño de su pareja, Martín Colantonio, con Andrea, sobrina política de Ingrid. En una entrevista, la modelo revela detalles del escándalo que involucra a su familia y cómo ha afectado su vida personal. La situación se complica con rumores de un supuesto embarazo que luego fue desmentido. Ingrid comparte sus sentimientos y la necesidad de tiempo para recuperarse del impacto emocional.
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00:00Note to Ingrid Grutke. See you later.
00:04Hi, Ingrid. How are you?
00:07How are you? Good afternoon, Ingrid.
00:08Good afternoon. How are you? Good.
00:10Well, I wanted to ask you first.
00:12On Friday you confirmed your separation.
00:14Yes.
00:14How are you?
00:16Well, I'm still a little shocked.
00:18I'm hurt.
00:20A lot of things happened.
00:22And, well, I have some time to recover.
00:26I wanted to ask you if you could tell me
00:28what was told, what was told on the show,
00:30where, well, unfortunately,
00:32you were deceived by your partner,
00:34Martín, with Andrea,
00:36who would be your political niece,
00:38who was married to your nephew
00:40Santiago de Sangre.
00:42Exactly. Santiago Gamble is
00:44the son of my older sister.
00:46They were married.
00:48And, well, it was Andrea
00:50looking at our right hand.
00:52It's hard for me to talk about this
00:54because you relive things.
00:56So, yes,
00:58the truth is that I felt
01:00an emotional scam.
01:02It hurts me a lot.
01:04It's hard for me to understand this.
01:06It's hard for me.
01:08But, well, I believed, I trusted a person.
01:10Martín, for me,
01:12was a wonderful being.
01:14And, well, I discovered something else.
01:16What also caught our attention
01:18was that there were alerts
01:20and you tried to say,
01:22well, nothing happens,
01:24or to ask them,
01:26they denied it.
01:28Today, seeing all this,
01:30with what you found out,
01:32with what was told...
01:34What happens is that, yes,
01:36there were alerts,
01:38but it's still hard to believe
01:40that something like this happens.
01:42For us, it was a family explosion
01:44that something like this happens.
01:46Because I can understand
01:48that people fall in love,
01:50I can understand it.
01:52But, well,
01:54you don't want to believe
01:56that it happens to you.
01:58And that it's
02:00a long time.
02:02That it wasn't a slip-up.
02:04Well, we got confused,
02:06something happened,
02:08and I didn't find out.
02:10Unfortunately, it was several months.
02:12You had projected as a couple,
02:14you had also bet on business,
02:16I mean, did you have brands
02:18of ice cream shops?
02:20We started a couple project
02:22in the future, a long time ago.
02:24I believed in him,
02:26I believed in everything he felt,
02:28in what I felt for him,
02:30what he supposedly felt for me,
02:32and I feel emotionally
02:34swindled more than anything.
02:36That's my great disappointment,
02:38and I can't understand,
02:40and I can't believe,
02:42because for me, I believed in that person,
02:44I believed in Martin,
02:46and it hurts me a lot,
02:48I mean, I try to...
02:50Up to here, up to here, up to here.
02:52The note is long, Ingrid,
02:54you saw it, with an open heart,
02:56she affirms absolutely everything
02:58said, and there are several questions.
03:00She says that Santiago, her nephew,
03:02is the son of her older sister.
03:04Surely Santiago was
03:06Ingrid's first nephew,
03:08with all that that implies,
03:10because your first nephew is a bit like...
03:12A son.
03:14Sure, like the projection of your son.
03:16Exactly, it's her decision.
03:18She had him in her arms, you say.
03:20This nephew happens.
03:22She saw him grow up,
03:24she was filled with hope.
03:26And the worst thing is that...
03:28A boy who is very important in Ingrid's life.
03:30Therefore, the wife
03:32of this nephew,
03:34also generated, has a special place.
03:36She must have loved her
03:38in some way, almost like a daughter.
03:40The worst thing is that Santiago,
03:42sorry, Santiago, may have found out
03:44about this much earlier.
03:46I want to be cautious with this,
03:48because there is a separation in principle,
03:50at the beginning of last year,
03:52between Santiago and Andrea,
03:54but apparently they don't confirm it to me.
03:56But Santiago would have information
03:58of a parallel bond from before,
04:00from 2022.
04:02There is still a parenthesis.
04:04But pay attention to one thing,
04:06because what Karina says,
04:08it seems to me that it is relevant
04:10in terms of affection.
04:12Having a biological bond.
04:14However,
04:16what hits her the most
04:18is not her own blood.
04:20Love hits her more.
04:22The love she felt for her partner.
04:24Trust.
04:26She uses the word
04:28I feel scammed.
04:30Emotional scam.
04:32Emotional scam.
04:34You just started, Dami,
04:36saying how all this started.
04:38This started the season 2018.
04:40Ingrid agrees
04:42to do the play
04:44Like the Ass,
04:46with Nicolás Escarpino,
04:48with Marcelo de Bellis,
04:50with Walter Quiroz.
04:52And there it appears,
04:54at a party,
04:56in a pool,
04:58on the balcony,
05:00there they meet,
05:02and there love is born,
05:04which they hide all summer long.
05:06Totally.
05:08I try
05:10to
05:12regroup with that.
05:14It's hard for me to talk about this.
05:16The money,
05:18or whatever the business is,
05:20that is accommodated,
05:22that will be taken care of by the lawyers,
05:24who has to accommodate it.
05:26Honestly,
05:28accommodate it
05:30as it has to be.
05:32That will flow
05:34as it has to flow.
05:36Luis told us on Friday
05:38that there are actions
05:40that would not be recognized.
05:42Yes.
05:44Yes, there is a part
05:46that does not recognize me,
05:48all the work,
05:50and all...
05:52the work,
05:54and the image,
05:56that does not recognize me.
05:58But well.
06:00In these days,
06:02was it possible to communicate with you?
06:04About Andrea or Martin?
06:06No, none.
06:08No, I don't have a message
06:10from either of them.
06:12I gave them all the opportunities.
06:14I asked them several times.
06:16They were things I felt.
06:18They denied it to me.
06:20The rumor in Posadas was very big.
06:22And well,
06:24a friend dared to tell me first.
06:26And then,
06:28it was hard for me to believe,
06:30it was hard for me to understand that this is true.
06:32I saw images,
06:34that no one is going to get out of me.
06:36With those images...
06:38What images?
06:40Obviously we understand your pain,
06:42but to understand the people on the other side.
06:44Images,
06:46hugging and kissing in this elevator.
06:48And...
06:50Let's stop for a moment,
06:52because this part is also tremendous.
06:54Of course,
06:56when the rumors
06:58of the matter come to her,
07:00she gets suspicious
07:02and asks for the security camera of the elevator.
07:04Luis, can we remind you, please?
07:06Yes, and it has to do with a specific event, Carina.
07:08It has to do with a day when they were in Buenos Aires,
07:10Ingrid, Martin, Andrea,
07:12and we are going to add a character,
07:14Pamela,
07:16who is in charge, or was in charge,
07:18of one of the Luciano's bakeries.
07:20They go out to the theater,
07:22and on the way back they were,
07:24in addition to talking and sharing a chat in the apartment,
07:26also taking selfies.
07:28And then,
07:30she receives a data of something that happened
07:32exactly that night.
07:34And she starts to get suspicious,
07:36she starts to remember what moments she lived
07:38inside the apartment.
07:40How they moved, how they went down.
07:42And that's where she asks for the security images,
07:44which in principle are denied.
07:46Perfect, good. About this moment...
07:48Or to take care of it.
07:50Are they denied?
07:52No, no, no.
07:54They are security cameras of the building.
07:56Of course.
07:58No, no, that's a personal matter.
08:00Everyone should know,
08:02except Ingrid, Ventura.
08:04No, no, no. That's a security issue.
08:06Security.
08:10She asks for the security cameras
08:12to see what was going on,
08:14because she had a certain suspicion.
08:16That day, we have the chats.
08:18Yes, and it's not one, or two,
08:20or three, or ten.
08:22There are more than 20 chats
08:24in less than 48 hours
08:26that talk about the script
08:28of this parallel couple
08:30to see how they met,
08:32when they went out,
08:34how they could kiss,
08:36and also at some point they infer
08:38in what way, if everything could rot,
08:40and go to the other's room,
08:42which was next door,
08:44while Ingrid was in the same apartment.
08:46Totally. We'll continue with the note
08:48because Ingrid talked more with Alatarde.
08:50But it's time to share
08:52what we've been talking about since the beginning.
08:54Let's go, Luis.
08:56Here's one of the 20-somethings.
08:58What did you delete?
09:00I can't see my notifications.
09:02It says, Martin,
09:04you didn't get the message.
09:06Since when?
09:08And if I get up and slap you,
09:10send me back what you deleted.
09:12They were in the same apartment.
09:1419-24, Alatarde.
09:16And with Ingrid in the place.
09:18In the room next door.
09:20What did you say? A kiss?
09:22That?
09:24She somehow imagined
09:26the possibility of blanking out,
09:28the situation.
09:30Did she imagine it or did she deliberately ask for it?
09:32There are two sides.
09:34There are two sides.
09:36There are insinuations.
09:38There are many I love you,
09:40but there is a moment when the bubble
09:42reaches the point where one of the two
09:44has to say it.
09:46Now, they didn't want to blank out the relationship
09:48or eroticize the situation.
09:50Well, it's an option.
09:52It has a particular name,
09:54when one can only be technologically unfaithful
09:56and not take it into practice.
09:58In this case, it was the two things.
10:00If there is something that catches the unfaithful,
10:02what the unfaithful likes,
10:04it is the morbidity of being discovered.
10:06So all these encounters and messages.
10:08The hidden one.
10:10Of course, this guy goes, but I can't do it,
10:12and I don't know what.
10:14Martin sends him a sticker
10:16that says that everything rots.
10:18Let's continue.
10:20And he says, my life, I had told you,
10:22as I was telling you,
10:24I told you before, I love you, you know?
10:26Sign of interrogation and a heart.
10:28It gives me a little thing in the belly,
10:30says Martin to Andrea.
10:32Oh my God.
10:34What a hairy guy.
10:36I don't want to say that bad word.
10:38What's wrong with this?
10:40Look,
10:42when you are in this constant search
10:44of the butterfly in the belly,
10:46it is the eternal lover.
10:48The one who is never going to have
10:50a real emotional commitment
10:52with a person.
10:54Why? Because they want to stay all the time
10:56in this teenage thing,
10:58the butterfly.
11:00They told me, Ana,
11:02you have butterflies in your belly.
11:04I said, what's wrong with you?
11:06Are you crazy?
11:08What's wrong with you?
11:12You know what?
11:14The sting is in the braguette.
11:16That's the truth.
11:18When you start to ascend with the butterfly,
11:20the butterflies don't fly anymore.
11:22You're right, Luis.
11:24After the 40 butterflies in the stomach...
11:26Well, not for you.
11:28No, leave it for you.
11:30I don't like having butterflies in my belly.
11:32Do you like butterflies in your belly?
11:34Of course.
11:36I don't like having butterflies in my belly.
11:38That's why.
11:40Because you ate a lot of bugs.
11:42Oh, God.
11:44He's getting crazy.
11:46You lost your talent.
11:48I would believe it
11:50if I didn't have the data
11:52of the seven lovers in parallel.
11:54Stop.
11:56That's why everyone tells me the same thing.
11:58Eroticism doesn't make sense.
12:00It doesn't make sense the feeling
12:02that everyone enjoys their sexuality.
12:04When I realized
12:06that you didn't receive a message
12:08and that you were showing Ingrid's cell phone,
12:10I almost had a heart attack.
12:12That's why she deleted it.
12:14That's why Martin told her to delete it.
12:16She wasn't in her room.
12:18She was sitting next to him.
12:20She was awake.
12:22She was sleeping.
12:24She was sitting next to him.
12:26We also get confused
12:28because there are chats
12:30with a wall in the middle.
12:32The girl was sleeping
12:34in Ingrid's house.
12:36I have a question.
12:38When Ingrid shows us the elevator,
12:40does she still live in the same house?
12:42Yes.
12:44I saw images of this elevator
12:46and it refers to her house.
12:48It's very morbid.
12:50It's very morbid.
12:52It's very morbid.
12:54I want to say something about the elevator.
12:56It's very important.
12:58Ingrid remembers
13:00that they went to the theater
13:02and that they came back.
13:04She saw that both of them
13:06were in their cell phones.
13:08That's the first suspicion.
13:10There's something going on
13:12next to me.
13:14I'm doing a scroll of Ingrid.
13:16You see your boyfriend
13:18and the other one is there.
13:20Oh my God.
13:22She's very insensitive.
13:24Let's go to the next chat.
13:26Thursday, 8 p.m.
13:28I want to go with you. I love you.
13:30It's nice to meet you.
13:32God, yes. I love you.
13:34There's a lot of I love you.
13:36You look like a vampire.
13:38And Martin says,
13:40I just saw you and my body changed.
13:42Did you see the adventure of the girl?
13:44My body changed.
13:46What did I say?
13:48I said it in other words.
13:50What does my body change mean?
13:52When does your body change?
13:54When it changes its form, its context.
13:56Who's writing this?
13:58Martin.
14:00My body changed.
14:02A technical correction.
14:04Tickles in the belly is in love.
14:06Tickles in the bra.
14:08It can be the dilla.
14:10I love it.
14:12Enjoy.
14:14Tomorrow we go to Avellaneda and theater.
14:16This was from the day before.
14:18Kissing in the elevator.
14:20Pame told me.
14:22Pame, what did she know about all this?
14:24Apparently nothing.
14:26She didn't know anything.
14:28But she was in Buenos Aires.
14:30It seems to me that nobody knew.
14:32But there are a lot of people
14:34that when they find out about all this
14:36they say, ah, then what I saw
14:38was not so strange.
14:40Here I am making reference to another note
14:42that we have from the owner of a brand
14:44with which Ingrid and Martin worked.
14:46And in a little while we will also share it with you.
14:48And also, with the stoppers,
14:50because I can't believe it.
14:52Pame told me that this could be reality.
14:54Let's continue, Luis.
14:56Let's go to another chat.
14:58Remember that I love you.
15:00Yes, Martin says.
15:02Reaffirming.
15:04Look, this is not a tickle
15:06in the genital area.
15:08This is love.
15:10I always have it present, says Andrea.
15:12I love you so much.
15:14Stop, stop, stop.
15:16I need to cut with so much sweetness.
15:18Listen to me.
15:20Just Ingrid Gruth
15:22who was talking about this situation
15:24that aggravates things even more.
15:26It is not only the emotional scam,
15:28the emotional scam,
15:30but there is a part of
15:32Ingrid Gruth's investment
15:34that Martin would not be recognizing.
15:36We are making reference
15:38to the invisible capital.
15:40Because she put money,
15:42but she also put her personal brand,
15:44which is the most valuable of all.
15:46Much more than the 100, 200, 300 lucas that she has put.
15:48She put lawyers,
15:50because in the note she said
15:52that the lawyers are coming.
15:54I don't want to get involved so much.
15:56Didn't you feel like she,
15:58the one from the quote,
16:00says, well, it will be fixed.
16:02Resignation.
16:04She talks about emotional scam,
16:06she doesn't talk about economic scam.
16:08The quote goes and comes,
16:10but the other, who pays me?
16:12It has no price.
16:14I am impressed by this note
16:16and they say,
16:18we always lower the IVA to the show.
16:20No, well, it's not like that.
16:22She, at no time,
16:24of the terrible things
16:26that we have told on Friday,
16:28did not deny anything.
16:30That impresses me,
16:32because you know what it means,
16:34that it is worse now.
16:36Ingrid never denied anything,
16:38of everything that happened to her in life.
16:40Now, I tell you one thing,
16:42put on those shoes,
16:44Easter,
16:46the birthday of a member of the family,
16:48we set up the family table,
16:50Ingrid with her sister at the table.
16:52What are they talking about?
16:54Of course, imagine all this.
16:56And the nephew.
16:58What are we talking about?
17:00The nephew.
17:02You can share something.
17:04And your son.
17:06Luis, good point,
17:08because after meeting those chats
17:10and something that Ingrid said in the note,
17:12when she makes contact
17:14with a part of these chats,
17:16the next day she is admitted to the Rivadavia hospital.
17:18But of course.
17:20It is not a love at first sight,
17:22it is a parallel relationship.
17:24Let's go with a little more of Ingrid's note,
17:26where she also says,
17:28this was a bomb in the family,
17:30because the whole family
17:32adored that couple,
17:34Santiago's and Andrea's,
17:36who suddenly turned into the bad guy in the movie.
17:38Let's see a little more of Ingrid.
17:40Hugging and kissing
17:42in this elevator.
17:46Accompanied by some
17:48conversations between them.
17:50On my back.
17:52But in my house.
17:54While I was sleeping
17:56in one room,
17:58Andrea was in the other room.
18:00I loved Andrea very much,
18:02I trusted her very much.
18:04She was the wife of my nephew.
18:06I saw my nephew happy.
18:08My family exploded.
18:10Here I am with my sister Edith,
18:12who is also accompanying me.
18:14How is your nephew?
18:16He is not a public person.
18:18How does he accompany you?
18:20My nephew hit him a lot.
18:22It was very strong for the whole Brutke family.
18:24My nephew was always united with me.
18:26We were always together.
18:28We had to tell the whole family the truth.
18:30It is our truth.
18:32It is what happened to us.
18:34I will not be the first or the last.
18:36He has a hard time
18:38like me.
18:40It was a shock for us.
18:42We celebrated his wedding
18:44in Alem.
18:46With the whole family,
18:48with friends.
18:50It was a beautiful party.
18:52I was proud as an aunt.
18:54Rumor has it that you gave him the dress.
18:56Yes.
18:58I did it here with Yara.
19:00They came here.
19:02Yara made Mario
19:04the dress for her.
19:06And José Balocen
19:08made the dress for her.
19:10I have many friends in fashion.
19:12That is the type
19:14and the degree of relationship
19:16I had with her.
19:18It is a double betrayal.
19:20It is a disappointment
19:22to have loved
19:24a person
19:26who cheated on me emotionally.
19:30Now I discover
19:32that it is something
19:34I did not see.
19:36My family believed in him.
19:38They trusted him.
19:42He hurt my nephew.
19:44Sorry.
19:46You know I am very calm
19:48with all this.
19:50I am glad you stopped talking.
19:52It is my truth.
19:54It is reality.
19:56I am an artist.
19:58I have to keep working.
20:00I have to keep smiling in front of people.
20:02I have to take responsibility
20:04for what happened.
20:06This is my truth.
20:10Thank you very much.
20:12I am going to work.
20:14Very painful.
20:16Very painful.
20:18We love you, Ingrid.
20:20We love you.
20:22She is very interested.
20:24She is totally interested.
20:26She is the victim of this.
20:28She does not feel bad.
20:30She does not do it for the people.
20:32She does it for her.
20:34She wanted to get it out.
20:36I understand that the economic debt
20:38is very small
20:40when she remembers
20:42that she bought a wedding dress
20:44for Andrea to marry her nephew.
20:46It is so much that was demolished.
20:48The fact that she
20:50gives her a wedding dress
20:52is something that is done
20:54in a mother-child bond.
20:56From mother to daughter.
20:58From sister to sister.
21:00Intimate.
21:02Loving. Generous.
21:04She had...
21:06She had health problems.
21:08That is Andrea.
21:10This is Andrea.
21:12This is Andrea.
21:14She changed her for Ingrid.
21:16This is Andrea.
21:18This is not...
21:20We should not compare.
21:22It is unusual.
21:24We should not compare.
21:28I would not suspect.
21:30She has a very good face.
21:32She has the face of a librarian.
21:34I don't know.
21:36Appearances deceive.
21:40This is also a love story.
21:42We should listen to it.
21:44We should listen to it.
21:46We know it is a story of betrayal.
21:48We should listen to it.
21:50Knowing Martin's
21:52is capable of deceiving
21:54anyone.
21:58Attention.
22:00Wanting to talk to Andrea,
22:02we are with our cell phone there.
22:04We are waiting for her to come out.
22:06Andrea, I don't have your last name.
22:08Nati, can you get it for me?
22:10Andrea Miranda.
22:12We are waiting for Andrea Miranda
22:14to come out in Posadas Misiones.
22:16Alejandro Uriarte is there.
22:18Our screenwriter
22:20from TV 12 Misiones.
22:22And we also have
22:24Celina Hernández,
22:26our screenwriter from Mar del Plata.
22:28Waiting for the exit
22:30of Martin Colantonio.
22:32So maybe today
22:34we can get the testimony
22:36of all the members of this
22:38very shocking culebron.
22:40I give you a detail.
22:42I remember that in that season
22:44it was like a great mystery
22:46Martin Colantonio
22:48was generated as a thing.
22:50I mean, Ingrid
22:52became a girlfriend.
22:54We did not know if he was a businessman.
22:56Some said he owned a chiringuito
22:58on the beach, the balcony.
23:00Others said he was part
23:02of the owners of the balcony.
23:04In other words, there was always
23:06a mystery around
23:08his business environment.
23:10Dani's owner was that.
23:12We are in the place where
23:14this business bond between
23:16Martin and Ingrid was formed.
23:18Because there Martin had his only
23:20clothing store in a society
23:22with his mother.
23:24Now, the incorporation of Ingrid
23:26was not only affective.
23:28In addition to adding money,
23:30with the image, the contacts
23:32and the possibility of installing
23:34stores in areas where they charged
23:36less taxes because they were
23:38Ingrid's, he got to have seven
23:40stores. So there is a symbolic capital
23:42that translates into a monetary capital.
23:44Let's continue then.
23:46This is morbid.
23:48You also have to comment on it.
23:50I love the last one.
23:52Martin sends him a news
23:54from Brazil where there is a person
23:56who went out with
23:58a man who went out
24:00with his wife's niece.
24:02So Andrea's laugh
24:04hahaha God.
24:06He says we would not even be the first
24:08as if saying we are not so
24:10in need. We do not have to feel
24:12guilty.
24:16This is not that
24:18only the niece of her ex-wife
24:20went out with her husband.
24:22It is the niece of her ex-wife who had
24:24a son with her ex-husband.
24:26She says, Ingrid, you are not Brazilian. There is a baby.
24:28So they are projecting in the future.
24:30That is, or he had a delay
24:32and they are making jokes about it.
24:34Ah, look at how it can be.
24:36Well, that's the version that comes to Ingrid
24:38of an alleged pregnancy
24:40that is later denied.
24:42I am not a witch by chance, my love.
24:44Well, Josefina, it did not cause
24:46any pregnancy, Andrea, but here we see
24:48very well how they are playing
24:50with the possibility that
24:52that could be true.
24:54And laughing.
24:56Yes, yes.
24:58It could have been a delay.
25:00I have a delay.
25:02And they keep making jokes about it.
25:04There is a woman who will end up very hurt.
25:06I still think they focus on the news
25:08of the infidelity between someone
25:10with his niece.
25:12Let's go to the next one, please.
25:14I went down to call you, says Martin.
25:16As if saying, I escaped from Ingrid
25:18to be able to talk to you. What happened?
25:20LPM will be the fucking mother.
25:22Are you leaving now?
25:24Yes, I'm going out again, says Andrea.
25:26Ok, calm down. Where can I kiss you
25:28before I go? Says Andrea to Martin.
25:30Laugh again.
25:32I cross you in the elevator.
25:34We go back to the scene
25:36that night there in Palermo.
25:38I go up and we go down together
25:40and then I go up.
25:42The accompaniment of up and down.
25:44With the elevator, right? Let it be clarified well.
25:46Bank me 5 and I'll let you know
25:48when I'm going up.
25:50Yes, I'm changing myself anyway.
25:52They were trying to coordinate to go
25:54both to the elevator.
25:56I remind you that these are
25:58the chats that correspond
26:00to that search of the security cameras
26:02that Ingrid does in the elevator
26:04and as Ventura asked well,
26:06but they gave them to her,
26:08they took a long time to give them to her.
26:10They didn't want to give the security cameras
26:12to Ingrid, surely because the security
26:14ones already saw them.
26:16Because imagine,
26:18you put yourself in those
26:20who handle the cameras of each building.
26:22Obviously they saw it, Luis.
26:24They have to listen to all the tenants
26:26and renters.
26:28Every day they have 10 requests.
26:30The truth is that.
26:32You have the right.
26:34We are talking about Ingrid Cruz,
26:36we are not talking about Juan Pérez.
26:38One more citizen.
26:40Yes, but you have the right
26:42because you pay expenses.
26:44You are out of the law.
26:46They are security cameras,
26:48they cannot be given to individuals.
26:50But she can argue
26:52that there was a crime,
26:54or that something happened,
26:56but not to say that they are cheating.
26:58These are common spaces of the building
27:00where the security cameras cannot access.
27:02Absolutely. Let's continue.
27:04Invasion of privacy.
27:06I want to tell you.
27:08Come on, Ventura.
27:10You can, Luis, you can.
27:12Call a lawyer.
27:14Let's continue.
27:16After the I'm changing
27:18that Andrea Martin said
27:20to coordinate the arrival of the elevator,
27:22Martin says, I'm crazy,
27:24LPM, which we reiterate,
27:26means the fucking mother.
27:28I'm waiting to go up.
27:30I mean, Martin was there.
27:32Like a teenager.
27:34Totally.
27:36With a modified body.
27:38I'm waiting to go up
27:40with the elevator.
27:42Zero haste.
27:44I'm here, but I asked.
27:46They were both touching the elevator.
27:48He was touching him.
27:50There was little left.
27:52We were there.
27:54He says, no, you are up.
27:56One touched up, the other down.
27:58The elevator like crazy.
28:00It is very important in intimacy
28:02to know who is up and who is down.
28:04Coordinate it.
28:06In the elevator I speak.
28:08Another chat.
28:10Are you up?
28:12Yes, I love you, Martin.
28:14I love you, Andrea.
28:16There's a lot.
28:18Don't read that part.
28:20For her, they're done.
28:22They were five minutes in the elevator.
28:24You're saying goodbye.
28:26I'm having a good time.
28:28I'm excited.
28:30You've been up for a long time.
28:32I've been up for a long time.
28:34I've been a lover for a long time.
28:36This data is added when
28:38he says he was going and coming to the elevator.
28:40They didn't just go up and down.
28:42Did they have the elevator
28:44going up to the terrace?
28:46No, it was before the meeting.
28:48All the juggles you have to do,
28:50God tells you.
28:52I'm sorry for your computer.
28:54What a beautiful hug.
28:56God, I love you, Martin says.
28:58There was a loving bond.
29:00The love that has not been despised.
29:02They totally fell in love.
29:04Why didn't they whiten?
29:06I love you, I love you.
29:08What is that?
29:10Another day.
29:1213-12, the next day.
29:14This is all a product of two days.
29:16It's not that they grabbed him
29:18with the Calibur system.
29:20I love you, that feels nice.
29:22And how good you are, Martin says.
29:24Photo, I'm eating my uncle.
29:26I'm eating my uncle, guys.
29:28And in the photo he says,
29:30Oh, you're not an actress.
29:32But that's what he uploads.
29:34He uploads her photo with her face like that.
29:36And the subtext as if it were a scroll.
29:38It's his morbidity.
29:40Of course.
29:42Well, let's not even talk about her.
29:44I think that was a juggle.
29:46Do you decide and
29:48do you take responsibility for it, Martin?
29:50Totally.
29:52She for me.
29:54Wait, wait, wait.
29:56You have to listen to me.
29:58Let me finish.
30:00Let me finish.
30:02Obviously one has
30:04responsibility.
30:06What happens is that when they start
30:08to juggle.
30:10Well, are you juggling or not?
30:12It was the girl.
30:14She is the husband of the nephew.
30:16I think she is the victim.
30:18Why do you have validity?
30:20Why do you have social validity?
30:22Ingrid is the victim.
30:24I want to say one thing.
30:26Let's see what Ventura says.
30:28With the tigers, the Bambis have little chance.
30:32Who is a tiger and who is a Bambi?
30:34You just gave me the reason.
30:36It is not necessary to specify it because it is clear.
30:38For me there is no Bambi.
30:40The guy has a record.
30:421, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7.
30:44But are you taking responsibility
30:46from the niece?
30:48No, no, no, no.
30:50Because the Bambi was still walking around the tiger.
30:52Of course.
30:54He was not leaving.
30:56Look, the tiger was still
30:58with the girl.
31:00And the niece was still crossing with the tiger.
31:02Attention, attention.
31:04Let's add
31:06another testimony.
31:08It's Christian's.
31:10Christian is a former partner of Ingrid Rudke.
31:12When he found out about this news,
31:14the guy said,
31:16well, I had noticed something about this.
31:18He had suspected.
31:20Let's listen to Christian.
31:22Very interesting everything he says.
31:24The profile he gives about Martin.
31:26Pay attention.
31:28We know that Ingrid
31:30had a franchise of your same brand
31:32in Misiones with her partner, Martin.
31:34We wanted you to tell us
31:36who approached you
31:38or how that relationship happened
31:40here in the province.
31:42Well, first of all,
31:44I don't usually give notes.
31:46In this case, you caught me here at the place.
31:48And well, I'm going to talk
31:50about what I know and saw.
31:52Because I've known them for two years.
31:54They set up a place
31:56of the body school brand in Misiones.
31:58And that's where I make the connection
32:00and contact with them.
32:02I know Ingrid from the media,
32:04but I personally met her
32:06coming to the factory.
32:08In fact, we sponsored her
32:10and dressed her for several programs.
32:12In addition to having her place
32:14in Misiones in the shopping mall.
32:16And well, nothing.
32:18I've known them there for two years.
32:20And the truth is,
32:22I am deeply affected by the issue
32:24of betrayal.
32:26That I am going through this situation
32:28because I really consider her
32:30an incredible woman.
32:32What I knew in these two years of Ingrid
32:34does not deserve to be going through this betrayal.
32:36Martin,
32:38you see, is a very salesman.
32:40He came to the factory,
32:42very salesman, very, you see,
32:44buyer.
32:46He has a way of being seductive
32:48that leaves you, as always, an open door.
32:50And now that this came to light,
32:52I'm going,
32:54my head back,
32:56and I start to see situations and I say,
32:58hmm,
33:00my intuition was not so wrong.
33:02You see, to say,
33:04like the famous slang,
33:06you see, the famous slang that
33:08you want to be the seducer with everyone.
33:10Even when I came to the factory,
33:12I always received it in the company.
33:14That is, in these two years, every time I came to the company,
33:16I received it. As I am the general manager
33:18of the brand,
33:20I always received it.
33:22With Ingrid, that is, you did the commercial part.
33:24She was a figure, you sponsored her.
33:26But with Martin, you were in charge of everything
33:28commercial to be able to transport
33:30the merchandise.
33:32Martin was in charge of the commercial part,
33:34of the numbers, and Ingrid was more the visible face.
33:36And we,
33:38in that commercial period,
33:40in addition to having the franchise,
33:42we also dressed
33:44Ingrid in various events,
33:46in programs, etc.
33:48And well, nothing,
33:50there where I know Ingrid thoroughly,
33:52and she really is
33:54an incredible woman,
33:56humble, simple,
33:58that when this came to light,
34:00she gave me a lot of trouble
34:02for the situation she had to go through
34:04because of this person.
34:06I believe a lot
34:08in energy, and in the commercial part,
34:10although I attended everything well,
34:12but I never finished
34:14closing because of his way of being,
34:16the famous langa,
34:18which leaves you
34:20very seductive and always leaves you
34:22with the window open.
34:24The suspicion.
34:26Look, there were two situations,
34:28two times that I didn't come
34:30with Ingrid to the factory,
34:32two times that one came
34:34with the niece, with Andrea,
34:36and another came with
34:38a girl he wanted to sponsor
34:40to compete
34:42CrossFit in Mexico.
34:44Sorry, Andrea, this niece,
34:46did he introduce her to you as his niece?
34:48Yes, he introduced her to me as Ingrid's niece.
34:50In fact, Ingrid sent me a message that day,
34:52Chris, I can't go to the factory,
34:54Martin is going with Andrea.
34:56And that day
34:58I was very loose, Martin,
35:00with the niece.
35:02It was like a strange attitude
35:04to try on the clothes,
35:06to see how it fits you.
35:08A confidence beyond.
35:10A confidence beyond.
35:12I, as a man,
35:14the man realizes when the man is ******,
35:16but I saw him
35:18at the time as
35:20very commercial, very salesman,
35:22and I say, no, it must be his way of being,
35:24because the salesman
35:26has that spark.
35:30Well, very interesting the testimony
35:32of this boy.
35:34And here it breaks the love,
35:36because he was very
35:38with all,
35:40not with the niece, not with Ingrid,
35:42with all.
35:44I imagine, let's see how it fits you.
35:46But with anyone,
35:48I don't write these chats with Andrea,
35:50because I bought the love story,
35:52now it's not a love story,
35:54it's like with anyone.
35:56But Andrea was in love.
35:58Andrea, yes, but she's a victim.
36:00Be it a love story or just sexuality,
36:02no case, no crime.
36:04The serious thing is that in three opportunities
36:06Ingrid asked him,
36:08guys, is it true that this is happening?
36:10Avoid the mess, let's make it clear.
36:12And three times they denied it.