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00:00Warriors down 10 at home. Bam Adebayo drives and dunks and got fouled and man.
00:07The 7 and 1 seems like a lot. A lot. Dubnation, it's the voice of the
00:13Warriors, Tim Roy. You're listening to Willard and Dibbs on 95.7 The Game. I'm
00:19just gonna be real with you and everybody. I try to do that all the time.
00:22Like, what what exactly was I watching last night? Okay, it was a basketball game
00:30there. I thought Tim Roy was about to swear right there when you heard it.
00:33Bam Adebayo drives, got. I thought he was gonna say God something else, but he said got
00:38fouled. I thought he was gonna, I thought he was, you know. Yeah, totally.
00:45Listen, that's what stood out to me. I know that everybody got distracted by
00:52another crappy performance. That's not what stood out to me. What stood out to
00:58me is how mad everybody is. Why was last night the linchpin? What's, what, do you
01:05know what I mean? I do, but to me it's pretty easy to explain. Why was this the
01:09tipping point? Why is this the night that Steph Curry is aimlessly walking
01:16around the bench, staring up into the sky, having that look on his face like
01:20what the hell, dude? What am I doing here? What, what are we doing? Why is Steve Kerr
01:27like, great, Trace Jackson Davis had 19 points, I don't care. Right. Why was this
01:34the night that Steph Curry literally out loud said to people in the room, I got no
01:42answers for you. I don't know how we get better. He sounded like you. Right. And
01:48he's like, there's no answer. Well, the, the reason why it happened last night to
01:52me is very clear because this was a scheduled win. We can talk about
01:57scheduled losses in the NFL and it's one of my pet phrases, but you've got a team
02:01coming in off a game the night before, back to back, you play double overtime,
02:06which is almost an additional full quarter and you don't have your best
02:10player, Jimmy Butler. So you'd expect the team to come in and be a little bit
02:15sluggish and tired having played 56 minutes. And I think they had four guys
02:20play more than 40 minutes against Sacramento in a game that they lost. And
02:25you're at home. You've been at home sleeping in your own bed. You're coming
02:29off a night off in a spot where you not only need a win, but you need a
02:34deodorizer. You need something to, to wipe the taste out of your mouth. That
02:39has been a bad taste for the better part of six weeks. And that is what you do.
02:43That's the effort you show. And I understand you're going to have bad games
02:48over the course of 82, but you look across the board, Schroeder, two of 10
02:53buddy, four of 12, Moses, one of six Wiggins back to the old wigs, four of 10
03:00and a pretty quiet night. And if you're Steph and you're basically wearing a
03:05cape all year and Draymond didn't play great, but Draymond at least is, I think
03:10giving some effort, but you look across that locker room and guys are just
03:14laying down.
03:15Well, you know what I want to ask you and our listeners is who is this
03:18directed at? And, and, and that's what is interesting to me because we're going
03:23to play a bunch of this for you now, Steve Kerr and Steph Curry. And I
03:28thought the level of dejection in the room last night was at a season high,
03:35the level of just absolute dejection. Now, Steve Kerr, maybe there's more going
03:41on there. Steve was clearly distracted. Steve's got family stuff going on. The
03:46Palisades are on fire. And again, we want to reiterate what we said off the top
03:50of the show and how heartbroken we are and how much we're thinking about
03:55everybody who is affected by this, not only down there, but everybody here who
03:59has family and friends there. It looks absolutely devastating. And Steve Kerr's
04:04mom was among the evacuees last night. So does that make Steve a little bit
04:10more edgy as people sit there and go, Steve, wow, the turnovers were a little
04:15high. Right. Sure. I bet. I bet. Well, that's the issue is that the turnovers
04:19weren't high. I just made that up. I know Mark, but just as I was looking
04:22through and like trying to figure out why that, that game was that bad.
04:27Normally, okay. 23 turnovers. You get it. They had 10 turnovers. Steve was
04:31pointing to effort. Yes. Steve was pointing to effort. Oh, can I get this
04:38off my chest for a second? Do it. I love everybody who calls this station.
04:44Like you're the lifeblood. It's an honor. Honestly, like I'm touched every
04:48single time someone, we run into someone out in the world and they're like, we
04:52listen all the time or you call or you text us or whatever, send tweets. Even
04:58when you're like bleep you, you Homer, like, honestly, the fact that you're
05:01tied into what we're doing is an honor, but for every one of you who has called
05:06in and suggested that it is Steve Kerr's job to motivate the warrior players.
05:12Like if they're not trying, that's his fault. What world are we? What are you
05:17talking about? These are grown adult human beings. Do you think if I came in
05:24here and mailed in a show, you should drive down here, pull Matt and a Hagian
05:30aside, be like, where are you on that one, Matt? I'm turning 50 in two weeks.
05:36Boy, I'm looking at that man to get me going. What are we talking about? And
05:43if don't even start, if I'm going to bring money into this, these people are
05:47making ungodly amounts of cash to be in that building and in a uniform last
05:52night. It's Steve's job to like poke them. Come on. What are we like? This is
06:01an unconscionable thought that I heard some of our callers have earlier today.
06:06I'll agree with the effort part of it, but the phrase that he uttered is one
06:10that I've been unable to shake all morning and now into the afternoon
06:14because I've never heard him talk about this before. And he said it's a crisis
06:18of confidence. Let's play it for everybody. It's it's it's right here.
06:23Yeah, I mean, I I expected better energy. I think we're suffering from a crisis
06:29of confidence right now, frankly. You can see it. You can feel it. You know, I
06:34don't mind missed shots, but I mind when missed shots affect the defense and the
06:39attitude. And I just we feel deflated right now. And there's no no room for
06:47feeling sorry for ourselves in the NBA, you know, in life in general, right? We
06:52can't we can't let disappointment dictate our approach to the game. We
06:58have to do the opposite. We have to bring more fire. We have to outcompete
07:03our opponents when things are going our way. And that was what was most
07:08disappointing tonight was I just felt like everybody was down and we didn't
07:13have a competitive spirit. If you have if you don't have that, you've got
07:17nothing. And so we've got to find a way to build that back. OK, so why did that
07:21grab you so much? Because we've got to find a way to build that back up. And I
07:24do think that it's different for every single player right now. Trace Jackson
07:29Davis is not suffering from a crisis of confidence. And I felt bad for him that
07:33his game last night is going to be forgotten. Nineteen points. He's been
07:38terrific. And Steve even said that in the other part of his quote where he was
07:41basically going off on the fact that somebody wanted him to praise Trace
07:46Jackson Davis after that dud. But I think about crisis of confidence and
07:51buddy healed. He's been in a six week funk. Dennis Schroeder has not yet fit
07:56in. Moses Moody doesn't know what his role is going to be night to night. And
08:00you can go almost player by player outside of Steph Curry. And you can see
08:05just by watching it through the TV that they don't have confidence. So I do
08:08think that part of it does fall on Steve Curry in ways where you've got to find
08:14a way to get these guys into a spot, whether it's, you know, maybe buddy
08:17healed, sits out a game or maybe he you change a guy's role or that's not about
08:22confidence. That's about like focus or energy or effort or whatever. You bring
08:27in the team psychologist. I have one. Yeah. I don't know. You've got to do
08:31something. You're the coach. I'm not saying that it's up to him to make guys
08:34try harder that he has. They're supposed to be out there giving effort. But, you
08:39know, with each individual player, he's got to get them into a spot where they
08:43feel the best that they can possibly feel about their own game and the team
08:47game. And right now this team is lost. They're completely lost and their
08:51confidence is shattered. So how do you fix it? How do you fix it? Well, I look
08:57at individuals like buddy healed, for example, where is buddy healed right now
09:02from a confidence standpoint? Because I know when I watch him, I don't have
09:05confidence in him. No, he doesn't have confidence, but like hell, any other
09:09human being on this planet is going to give it to him. That's why I just don't
09:13view motivation and confidence that way. That has to come from within. Well, it
09:17has to. Maybe you can motivate him by, I don't know, having him sit out again.
09:21Sure. Instead of hoisting up shot after shot, that's not going in. Right. But
09:25again, that's that now we're getting into the whole like sort of, you know,
09:30are you punitive? Are you compassion? Are you compassion? Are you punitive? How
09:35do you want to coach in every individual needs to be coached differently? And
09:39some guys can handle this and other guys can handle that. Steve talked to us
09:42about that a few weeks ago when he went public, ripping pods and banging on the
09:47table that night because he's like, this is what I felt like he needed at
09:51this particular time. You've never seen him do that with Jonathan Kaminga. You
09:56never used to hell. They certainly certainly didn't do that with clay
09:59Thompson over two years. And then we find out that there was all kinds of
10:03stuff behind the scenes that was super frustrating. So that's difficult for him
10:08to assess and figure out how to handle each player. You're right that that's
10:12his job. But when that doesn't like click right away, I don't know anywhere
10:19else to look. But then the adult human being who's sitting there struggling
10:25like you have got to find that from within like hell, some other human
10:29beings going to come up to me and say something. And immediately I'm like, Oh,
10:34now I'm confident. But he needs to see the ball go through the bucket. But if
10:38that's the only way he's going to find the confidence, well, maybe you give him
10:42a different chance to work on it in practice, or you give him a game where
10:45he can just catch his breath and not feel the same pressure. You're right
10:49about each player responding differently and getting different motivation. We
10:54know that Draymond, we saw Draymond barked at Buddy Heald a few weeks ago.
10:58And well, that maybe wasn't the right move because it hasn't hasn't turned
11:02into Buddy shooting better or playing better. And I look at Moses Moody, who
11:07doesn't play with the same confidence, probably because his role is constantly
11:11changing. And I look at a team overall right now that is lost. And so you got
11:17to figure out different ways to try to shake them out of the funk. And that is,
11:20I think Steve Kerr's job.
11:22Well, except for that, we're also seemingly in this conversation
11:27presupposing that he's not doing those things. Like if you want to say, take
11:32Moses Moody, for example, he should be in there more. And if he was, he'd be
11:36more confident. OK, I can hear that. But the idea like you brought up, bring in
11:40a psychologist or do do X, Y, Z in practice. We have zero evidence that he
11:44hasn't. Right. I have no idea what they're doing. And I guarantee you that
11:49Steve Kerr is not sitting there with a smoking jacket on, being like, it'll be
11:52fine. Like I meant that they're trying. Right. They're clearly ticked off.
11:56They're trying so many things and it's not working. In fact, we got to play a
12:02couple of these for you that are right on point with what we're talking about.
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12:17for First NorCal Financing at the dealer. Steph Curry was asked, how can you
12:21improve the offense? How do you think this team just gets better offensively?
12:25That seems to kind of I mean, that's two straight games under 100 points.
12:29Honestly, I have no idea. I wish I were going to try to figure it out, but I don't
12:35have an answer right now. That comes from someone who feels like he's tried 87
12:39things and it hasn't worked. And then here's the comment you're talking about
12:43where Steve was asked, hey, at least TJD had a nice game, right? I mean, I can't
12:50sit here after that and be excited about anything. I mean, he scored 19
12:58points. Great. He's having a good season. But who the hell cares if we're not
13:07competitive? If we don't have a competitive spirit and a fight and a
13:11willingness to compete through everything, then I'm not going to sit
13:14here and talk about, hey, so-and-so had some points. Great. Who cares? It's about
13:19us competing and being the Warriors, being the team we've been for 10 years
13:24and not feeling sorry for ourselves. That's what I'm thinking about tonight.
13:27This is why I love Steve Kerr, by the way. And this is why I don't get
13:31triggered when everyone's like, you had Jordan Poole and you could have drafted
13:35Lamello Ball. Great. They score points. The two teams combined don't have 18
13:42wins. Like, who cares if you're scoring 25 a night for a team that loses by 19?
13:49Who cares? It's pointless. It's completely pointless.
13:54Well, you're faced right now with a team of guys who obviously aren't giving
13:58the effort that the coach is looking for. And Steph is trying to answer, you
14:02know, how do you fix the offense? And well, the fix is pretty simple. You have
14:06guys that usually make shots. You have them actually make those shots. And you
14:10look at last night, they were six for 33 from three-point range, not counting
14:15Steph Curry. Steph goes eight of 17. Fantastic. 47%. The rest of the team, six
14:22of 33. You brought in Buddy Heald to shoot and score. He doesn't do that.
14:27Dennis Schroeder was averaging 20 a game. Damn near in Brooklyn. And he gave
14:32you five last night. And Andrew Wiggins, I've lauded him all year for having a
14:37really good year. But over the last few games and last night is the Wiggins that
14:42we all have dreaded again, where did he even play? 25 ineffectual minutes. He
14:49doesn't score. He doesn't rebound. Draymond Green's game has had some
14:54pretty significant slippage on both ends of the floor. And then you look around
14:57the rest of the team. You don't have enough scoring. If you don't get Buddy
15:01or Schroeder to score, if Wiggins isn't giving effort and Draymond's running
15:05around doing what he can do, you're sunk. You're lost.
15:10Totally. Well, and this is to me, this is the catch 22 of Andrew Wiggins. He can
15:16have a nice year. And then he'll have that surprising game where he like the
15:23dog in him shows up. But it's like six times a year. And when you have games
15:29like this, this right now is a hellish scenario for Andrew Wiggins. The trade
15:36deadline is approaching and Jonathan Kaminga is out. And now a team that is
15:41struggling with confidence and scoring looks to Andrew. Hey Andrew, we need you
15:47to show fight. The second you do that is when you're set up to be disappointed by
15:52Andrew Wiggins. That's the problem. This is the problem. This style and this
15:58scenario for the Warriors. Your other scorer on the wing got hurt. Your team is
16:03slumping. And it's like, dude, we need somebody to wake this team up. And Andrew
16:09Wiggins is there to tell you, don't look at me, right? It's just it. To me, it is
16:15what in the end will dog what is an otherwise really nice career, right?
16:20It's going to be a nice career. I mean, he's got an all star. He's got an all
16:24star appearance. He's got a championship ring. And if you look at the end of his
16:27career, he's probably going to end up being right now. He's an 18 and a half a
16:31game. He's probably going to wind up being about 17 a game with a good long
16:3614 year career and a championship. But for a number one overall pick, it's
16:41maddening. And I'm just looking at his individual plus minus and in the games
16:47where he is a positive in the plus minus, they don't lose. They've lost three of
16:53those games. So when he plays with authority, when he plays downhill with
16:58energy and effort, you have a much greater chance of winning. And like you
17:01said, especially now without coming, uh, you're sunk. So of your nine men last
17:06night, you got Steph who was, he was good. Good again. Draymond was, he was
17:13all right. He was fine. He passed and rebounded. He had double digits of both,
17:17but he didn't hit his three ineffective, buddy. Can't score. Schroeder is lost.
17:22TJD was really good, but you know, kind of empty calories at the end of it. And
17:26then you get down to the other bench players and none of them are really
17:29going to be that impactful anyway. Yep. Yeah. I mean, that's the maddening thing
17:34about Andrew Wiggins is that you have no idea when that effort is going to show
17:37up. None. They're like, gosh, Greg Cosell jokes that he's bad at predicting games.
17:44There, there's nothing harder to predict in sports than when Andrew Wiggins is
17:47going to show fight. Absolutely no clue. And if Steph wants to know why people
17:55call the 2022 ring, a quote surprise championship, and that bothers him a
17:59little bit, he should know that's actually about Andrew. That's literally
18:03about Andrew Wiggins because they want it because he went crazy and nobody ever
18:08expects that to happen. And it happened for an extended period of time. I still
18:13don't know what the hell got into him. Yeah. And we've never seen it again.
18:17Well, we've seen it and we saw it a few nights ago, Tuesday, and then there'll
18:21be a Thursday and like twice a month against Memphis. He was great. And you
18:26had a nice convincing victory and then you come out against Sacramento and he
18:29was bad and you lose. And then last night he was mostly non-existent. And
18:34when you don't have cominga and your two other veteran guards, aren't really
18:38scoring. Clay's gone and pool is gone and buddy can't shoot. And Schroeder
18:43doesn't really know what he's doing yet. This is the game where you need Andrew
18:48to have 27 and say, I'm taking 18 shots. It's me and you, Steph, I'm taking over.
18:54And this is not to blame Wiggins, but I do think he is the poster child for what
18:58the problem is right now. And for Steve Kerr to talk about effort and energy and
19:03competitiveness and fight, that is about as damning of a commentary as you can
19:09have for a team. Um, there was one more from Steve and then we want to get to
19:12your phone calls. Steve was asked, this is the one that really, to me, this is
19:16the gut punch. Steve was asked if Steph is discouraged. Listen to the answer.
19:23Yeah. Yeah, I can see it. I can see it with Steph and, uh, and, um, you know,
19:28he's continued to be brilliant night after night, but, you know, at his core,
19:33he is, um, he's a winner. He's a champion. He wants to compete at the
19:37highest level. We just saw it a few months ago in Paris. Um, the best of the
19:41best. And, you know, he takes over the fourth quarter when, when everything's
19:44on the line, that's who he is. That's what he lives for. And, uh, so he is
19:49really struggling with, uh, the emotion of, you know, not being competitive
19:54right now. Um, he probably hasn't had to deal with us since his, uh, I don't
19:59know, his first couple of years in the league. So he's, he's definitely
20:02struggling. Like no one's talking anymore about like, Oh, are they the
20:05team from the beginning? Or are they the team that we've seen from, you know,
20:09the last few weeks. Um, this sounds like a team that is shot, has no
20:15answers is, um, is beyond frustrated. And they're not like, Oh, we're
20:20struggling right now. They're just like, we suck. We can't even stay in the
20:25game. This is the, to me last night is the poster for warrior discouragement
20:34of possibly of the entire era.
20:37Well, I would agree with you because you could look back at the last year
20:41where Steph was hurt and Draymond was hurt. You got reasons. You had Paschal
20:46and you had pool yo-yo in between the G league and even last year. Okay.
20:50Draymond suspension. Well, you know, if Draymond would have played at least
20:53half of those games, you might've been a 50 win team. And then you're a top
20:56six and you know, going into the year, Steve Kerr and everyone, we were so
21:00close to being a 50 win team last year. And we feel like we're right there
21:04again. And you start out 12 and three and everyone's thinking, geez, maybe,
21:08maybe they're onto something. Maybe this is the Steph Curry. And well, he
21:11hasn't really been the problem, but you talk about last night and Curry, it's
21:16a free throw nine minutes to go to cut it to one. And you're thinking, okay,
21:21you're at home heat off of back to back. They played double overtime. Here
21:26come the warriors. These are the games where it wasn't pretty to that point,
21:29but this is when golden state should be able to exert its will. You were laying
21:33nine and a half and I'm watching it thinking, all right, Mark, this, they
21:37made their run back in it. Time to boogie. Uh, Jovic, not Nicola Jovic,
21:44Jovich Jovich with a three and another three Berks with a three. Now you're
21:50down 10 in a minute and a half. You went from down one to down 10. Yeah.
21:54And the very next possession, while the warriors had all that momentum, buddy
21:57healed, decided to take a hand in the face, fall away three. And he barely drew
22:02iron. Yeah. So it's just, it's poor decision-making it's poor effort. It is
22:10a crisis of confidence. It's all of those things. And it feels answerless
22:15Glenn in New York city. Um, Hey Glenn, real quick, what's going on? Thanks for
22:20calling.
22:21Uh, thanks for having me. Yes, I am in New York city. I'm from Oakland though,
22:24which is why I'm following the warriors. I think it's time that we just come out
22:29and say, it's think it's time for Steve Kerr to go. I think Steve Kerr's coaching
22:34is the problem for the team. I think his rotations from early in the season has
22:39just been out of whack, out of tune with the game. He doesn't make in game
22:44adjustments. It's like even the games that we win, it seems like he makes us
22:49win them twice. We'll have our squad out there. We'll build up this lead. He'll
22:54make these substitutions. He'll then sit the starters and the players that were
22:58contributing. He'll watch a 12 point lead, just evaporate. Then all of a
23:03sudden he's trying to put, you know, the heavy hitters back in there when we're
23:06down 10 and we have to try to win the game again. And it's just coming up
23:10short. And I think it's time we should go get Mike Brown and tell Steve Kerr.
23:15It's been a good run, but it's time to move on.
23:17Okay. Glenn, we'll react to that in a sec. Uh, because that's sort of, to me,
23:22that suggests that the Warriors are rotation fixes away from being good.
23:27Right? I'm, I don't agree. Me either. I do not. But, but we can talk about it
23:31more.