Faisal Chaudhry raises important question regarding Al-Qadir Trust case hearing
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00:00What do you think about today's case?
00:03Sir, I would like to make a technical request.
00:05The judge is trying, which I think,
00:07because he has tried 2-3 times to go to the highest courts
00:12and to make this trial illegal, to raise objections,
00:17he has tried that.
00:19This time, he has run it at a slow pace and with his will
00:23so that there are no objections.
00:25I mean, he could have given a punishment.
00:27Sir, you are right.
00:28One time, the judges were told,
00:30from somewhere else, that he would be acquitted.
00:32The second time, he was told that he would be acquitted.
00:34Today, the judges are coming and everyone is ready.
00:37I am asking, is he right in saying that he was waiting,
00:40that no one came?
00:41Look, I think the judge has tried
00:44that there are no objections at the last point.
00:46I will give him one more time.
00:49A wife has to come from Peshawar.
00:51And you are saying that if she doesn't come next time,
00:53there will be a punishment.
00:54No, no, I am not saying that.
00:55I am saying that maybe that is why he stopped.
00:57But I am saying this very clearly.
01:00This is a double-edged sword.
01:02If there is no punishment in this case,
01:04then it is a deal.
01:06Right?
01:08Now, we know that there is nothing in the case.
01:11Tell me, Mr. Kashif,
01:13that three times,
01:15the decision of a case is adjourned,
01:19didn't you make this a political case?
01:22You are talking about a deal and a deal.
01:24Who asked for it?
01:25Did Imran Khan ask for it?
01:27Did his party ask for it?
01:28Did his family ask for it?
01:30Who asked for it?
01:31Sir, we listen to you every day.
01:32You are talking to me.
01:33No, the thing is,
01:34the thing is,
01:35that he said,
01:36the victim who is in jail,
01:38the victorious victim,
01:40he said that my release,
01:42my cases,
01:43will not be the agenda of these negotiations.
01:46This is how it is.
01:47Take his Twitter account.
01:50He said, I don't want to make a deal.
01:53In the court,
01:54this also happened with you.
01:56And he told me here,
01:58Mr. Sabzada told me,
02:00Mr. Khan said,
02:01first the release of the other prisoners,
02:03then I will consider.
02:04Yes, right.
02:05Now, the thing is,
02:06the release of the other prisoners,
02:08when Kar-Kunan and Rehan-Uman,
02:10they talk first.
02:11So, we are saying that
02:13you are not begging us.
02:15What happened today?
02:16By the way, why didn't you reach on time?
02:18Sir, this case starts at 11.30
02:20from one and a half years.
02:21We reach at 10.30.
02:23While clarifying,
02:24at 11.45,
02:25we let someone go at 2,
02:27someone at 3.
02:29So, where was Ms. Bushra?
02:31Ms. Bushra also came 15 minutes ago.
02:33So, you are saying that...
02:35Yesterday, the court announced
02:37the time at 11.00,
02:39that we will announce the decision at 11.00.
02:41I was there at 10.20.
02:44Salman Raja was also there before me.
02:46Okay.
02:47And when I was there...
02:49So, you were on time?
02:50Yes, we were on time,
02:51which is our normal time.
02:52Okay, the second thing is that...
02:54The judge said that
02:55he is waiting for you at 8.30.
02:56You didn't come.
02:57So, was the judge
02:58making an important announcement
02:59at 8.30 today?
03:00What was it?
03:01He was making a decision.
03:02At 11.30?
03:03Look,
03:04when the judge was asked
03:05to make a decision
03:06for the first time
03:07regarding the Iddit case,
03:08Saifur's case,
03:09Toshakhana's case,
03:10who was there?
03:11Was there anyone?
03:12I heard it in the office.
03:14Anyway, you should not be
03:15representing the judge.
03:16No, no, I was there.
03:17Let me also talk about 2 plus 2.
03:19Yes.
03:202 plus 2, Chaudhary Talal sir,
03:21obviously,
03:22my brother also respects him.
03:25But, sir,
03:26the thing is that
03:27you should read it sometime.
03:28Those who talk about this,
03:29tell me that
03:30the government of Pakistan
03:32has incurred a loss
03:34of 20 crores
03:36in this account,
03:38with interest,
03:39which is kept in the State Bank
03:40of Pakistan.
03:41Tell me,
03:42where has money laundering
03:43been proven?
03:44Has it happened in the UK court?
03:45Has it happened in the Pakistani courts?
03:47Don't go to the merits.
03:48I think that
03:49Mr. Chaudhary is not prepared
03:50to go to the merits.
03:51Give me one example.
03:52Alright.
03:53I will give you an example.
03:54I will give you an example.
03:56I will give you an example.
03:57I will deposit the electricity bill
04:01and ask him to take the electricity bill.
04:04With this money,
04:05he can deposit my tax too.
04:07Oh, my brother,
04:08you are doing a great job.
04:10You are doing a great job.
04:11Give me an example.
04:12You are doing a great job.
04:13You are doing a great job.
04:14Listen to me, Mr. Chaudhary.
04:17Listen to me, Mr. Chaudhary.
04:18Listen to me.
04:19Listen to me.
04:20The problem here is
04:21Do you know how this case started?
04:23In 2020,
04:25the government of Pakistan
04:27had written a letter to NCA.
04:29Yes.
04:30The investigation of Hasan Nawaz's
04:32one Hyde Park.
04:34Suspicious transaction.
04:35Suspicious.
04:36The case started from there.
04:37That Hasan Nawaz had sold it,
04:38Mr. Malik Riaz.
04:39Yes.
04:40From there,
04:41this account was seized.
04:42He wrote to the government of Pakistan,
04:44Mr. Chaudhary,
04:45this account was seized
04:46and a freezing order was issued.
04:48The first step
04:49was the freezing order.
04:50Sir,
04:51I have a request.
04:52The same NCA
04:54gave a clean chit to Shabaz Sharif
04:56and Mian Nawaz Sharif
04:57to Hasan Nawaz.
04:59Okay?
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