The Dallas Cowboys officially part ways with Mike McCarthy. Deion Sanders and Jerry Jones have spoken about the Cowboys head coaching job, talks are to continue. With one game left on their road trip and Jimmy Butler's suspension how will they handle the situation? Will He play on Friday night vs the Denver Nuggets or get booed by the fans? Will the Heat re-activate him? The guys QUIBBLE about Zion Williamson! Bust or no Bust: We go over players who we believe are BUST!
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00:00It is official. The Cowboys are not bringing back Mike McCarthy
00:06Why me I said this before
00:09If you're gonna bring me back if you're gonna bring him back why not let him interview. I didn't want to show my hand
00:16The listen the rich like to hold you up to a contract
00:20So he just wanted to do it just because you know
00:23Like we just Jerry strike is the guy who's ever gonna like just do you a solid? I don't think so
00:29Mm-hmm
00:30like why does he always get to these contract disputes at the very last minute because I'm gonna hold you to it a
00:36Man's word is his bond
00:40What what Wow, I didn't surprise he made that much
00:46Ten million this year one year ten million. Yeah
00:50Yeah
00:52But don't worry. That's got Raiders written all over it
00:56That's what I'm saying though, dude, someone's gonna pay him
00:59Someone it's gonna happen. Yeah, but he can't get give him a two or three-year deal. Yeah. Yeah, I wouldn't
01:06Yeah, I think that's probably the heavy like I almost would say like hey to your deal
01:10That's the most I'd go on it, which those never and he's still Sam. He's still Sam Donald. He's still 27
01:16This is what we learned. Like was he a fool? That's the thing. That's the one thing
01:21Mm-hmm that piques my interest if I'm a team that he's still 27. Yeah, I
01:28Know because yeah, this is playing getting drafted by the Jets. It's like going through some Thibodeau years
01:35Same thing with Cleveland
01:37Well, not as much cleavage. They were Cleveland. Well, no because Baker has a
01:42Bigger one a playoff game and how did you guys treat him for that? Yeah, and how many first guys treat him?
01:48Sam Donald had no success. No, he had no success only ghosts
01:54How about the both the fact that they were both in Carol
01:57Yeah, that's crazy, right?
02:00It was like the land of misfit toys
02:032018 draft. Um, yeah, I don't know man. I I think somebody will give him a shot but
02:11Unless the coach really likes him and then he wants to trade the rookie, but I don't think that's what they're gonna
02:16Usually a coach loves who he drafts
02:21Keep in mind
02:23You do understand JJ McCarthy won the job
02:27So he was gonna start in front of Sam Darnell. Yeah
02:31And why would you didn't keep Sam Darnell and get rid of the guy who was 14 games with him? I don't know
02:37Okay, I don't know. Okay
02:39Get a hold. Let me
02:41Know
02:43What would you do?
02:44I'd start a rookie
02:46Cuz like if you think if that guy could do that with Sam, well, how much money you got to pay?
02:50Sam don't know is the kicker. Yeah, right. So if you give him three years 30 million, you still don't have 50 million
02:58Tied up in in your
03:00One position the only thing that is the difference. No, what about here's what I would say
03:05I would say if you're gonna do that, then you trade JJ McCarthy and then you probably get you probably get
03:09I'm sure somebody would trade for you you if you would trade for JJ McCarthy
03:13You could get three first rounders because he would be the number one. That's what I say. That's what they say, but I'm no
03:20No, no, no, because that's cuz you love JJ McCarthy. No, no, that's not why I think it is because
03:28Nobody knows how good JJ McCarthy really is
03:33More than in my Minnesota Vikings
03:36So if they do trade him that means that they didn't think
03:41That he can outperform sand
03:44Playing the way he did. This is the Alex Smith situation. Is it not like it's it's exactly I mean, it's not as no
03:49But they signed but they brought Alex Smith in and he sat for what two years
03:53No, I'm saying I'm talking. No, I'm talking about the
03:58Kansas City Chiefs
04:00He still played two years. Was it two years? He played two years
04:03No, but he was a draft he was essentially a draft bust
04:07He went to Kansas City. They won a lot of games, but they felt like they peaked and they handed it over to Patrick
04:12Mahomes
04:20I think most people would say Alex Smith is now you probably look at it his whole career
04:23But he ended up on the Kansas City Chiefs if he's not sticking with the team that they went Kaepernick
04:27They went cheap with Kaepernick. Mmm
04:30That's up a ship
04:34That guy was a quarterback for nothing but like teams were mostly winning records
04:38You think hold on you think that out mean something you think Alex Smith has looked upon as a successful pick by the 49ers
04:45I don't think so
04:47Way if you take your team to NFC title game in a couple of playoff appearances, well, okay, here's what I'll give you the example
04:54Jared Goff
04:56Rams draft bust no bust no dude super boss. No, no, no
05:03Let me clarify this
05:06Sometimes people draft players on what they can do for their team. Okay
05:14It doesn't always work out
05:16But if that guy goes on
05:18To have success
05:20Somewhere else. He wasn't a bust. He just didn't fit what you want for your team. He's a bust
05:26No, no egg monogamy right started this year for the commanders doing some good things, but we'll be a Dolphins draft
05:36Doesn't matter dude draft bus
05:50Baker Mayfield, here's the difference. He was hurt bigger maybe hurt and
05:55They kicked they they they actually made the bust with the free agent signing, right
06:00Here's what I would say
06:02When you draft a prospect
06:05You're drafting him
06:07Based on his abilities to play in this league for however long
06:13right
06:14If a guy goes on to play 10 12 13 years, I'm not talking about backup quarterback, right?
06:20But if a guy goes on to play
06:23In the NFL
06:25for 9 10 11 12 years
06:29That wasn't a draft bust. It means it just didn't work out for you
06:39So was I Cleveland Browns bus
06:42No, how many years you play for them I
06:45Played well the team moved to Baltimore and then they oh, that's not your fault unforeseen circumstances
06:53So
06:55Wait, so wait, wait, wait, so let's figure this out. And in fact, they try to replace you. No was Brett Favre and
07:04Atlanta Falcons bust absolutely
07:07They traded him doesn't matter didn't work out
07:13See you're drafting a prospect based on what he can do at this level
07:20Right and depending on what the circumstances are with your coach or whatever it might not fit
07:27What you're doing? It doesn't mean the guy can't play. So it's okay
07:34Me is Jim Marcus Russell. Okay, but it's Sam Donald a bust
07:40He's a bust
07:42But look at the chaos
07:46Was Aaron Rodgers a bus, why would he be a bus a free agent pickup like
08:02Zero success
08:04I
08:21Said Baker wasn't a bus because they they went to get to Sean Watson like they didn't they didn't purely
08:27Iraq they didn't purely
08:30Send out Baker Mayfield because of performance they send about injury and because they thought the Sean Watson was better. Okay, we're
08:38You're saying mega Fitzpatrick is a bus
08:41No, cuz big if it's Patrick demanded a trade
08:44Okay
08:46He demanded a trade. No, I look at it. He's the better. Are you if every person you dress?
08:53plays
08:56Seven to ten plus years. Yeah, every single person you dress. Yeah, you are a good drafter of talent. Mm-hmm
09:04He's got to work out for you
09:06Has to like for example, I'm asking this then. Yeah, is your quarterback a bus so far? No
09:12Not yet, but he had to work for you. You haven't won a playoff game. You haven't won a division
09:17He's not a bust, but he's also not a star. He's just
09:22He's like a lazy river of okay, you got
09:25So but you're saying I mean that was a ridiculous argument. I can't
09:29He hates Aaron Rodgers. He won't
09:32I'm just saying you use that you use the free agent thing with Deshaun Watson and
09:38Say yeah, that was a free agent, but no no
09:40He was asking if Baker was a bus for the Browns, right?
09:43And I'm saying no because the circumstances that the bus was the free agent. It was more of a bust
09:48Okay, but I'm talking more draft
09:51Rodgers is he a free agent bust now? He's a bust but he wasn't a bus for pick for the Packers
09:56That's a ridiculous thing. Okay. No, no, no, I got you now if Liam Eichenberg goes off
10:01It becomes a pro bowler with the Vikings. Yeah, he's a Dolphins bust. I don't make the rules
10:07But that's not on
10:09If you're a bus on the team and then go somewhere else and have success, right?
10:15You're not the bus the bus is with the organization how they use
10:20Me to just ask a good question with Stafford a bus with the Lions. No, what?
10:25But we went oh and six. No, we did it. You keep saying that. No, he did
10:30He was the guy they got for Owen 16. Oh
10:34So they drafted him after yeah
10:37Okay, but then right after that they were what I don't think you can be the franchise all-time passer and be a bus
10:43I think them is the rules minus one. Wait, what I think I know you had zero success
10:49You didn't win a playoff game. Did they make the playoffs?
10:56But but wait, so
11:10You just look at a bus to tell him he's a bust
11:13You you're saying Jared Goff is a bus in as a ramp
11:16Absolutely when he went to the Super Bowl if you are traded and ousted from a Super Bowl team that automatically makes you
11:25Traded for another number one pick what are you talking about?
11:27What happened with that number one pick won the Super Bowl not a bust?
11:30But Jared Goff now he couldn't now he could go and prove them a fool dude if he goes away
11:36Hey
11:38You're the guy he's the friend that you guys go out to like a cigar bar or something and you sitting around
11:47Drinking and smoking your cigar or something and you the guy the friend that everybody wants to kick your ass, which which a hot takes
11:54This is ridiculous. It's houses. Sean Watson a Texans bus. No
11:59He wanted out
12:01Then apparently, you know
12:03Was two hours
12:05On first but the football when he was on the Texans not a bus
12:12Problem
12:15I think it's pretty I think it's pretty self-explanatory
12:17Is it? Yeah, cuz I'm confused as hell. Why because you're you're like, yeah
12:23How have you you don't get to just or how would you maneuver? How have you maneuvered your way around?
12:29You don't get to just like here's what I'm just saying. I want to make this clear. You can't just erase your bus status
12:35It's not it's not it's not possible
12:37So what you claim something somebody a bus their bus forever a fan base. You're a bust. You can't augment it. No
12:44No immunity. You can't augment bus. So you can't
12:49Was right at him a bus. It's a good question. I would say no I would say no play for like 30 years
12:56He was fine
12:56If you're good enough to play if you're good enough to hold a job in some capacity in this league for a long period of time
13:03You're not a bus it just didn't work for you. What about all those top five picks that two years I tell you who's a bus
13:10Rosen Oh
13:12Maybe the bustiest of buses. No, he ain't more buzzes your Marcus your Marcus. That's the bark Ryan leaf
13:19Josh Rosen was right him couch. Josh wasn't was so a Harrington
13:24Hear this out. Josh Rosen was so bad. He not only got he not only got ousted as being a number three pick
13:31Okay, what was it what was he number 10, I don't remember here's one he was a first-round pick they ousted him for one year
13:38They're like wolf went to the Dolphins for a second round pick and the Dolphins played him one game alike. No, thanks
13:45That's two franchises. That's more of a bus than Jamarcus Russell here ready
13:51Here's one
13:53tray Lance bust
13:55Now now is he a bus and here's what I
14:02Get upset about because your franchise the franchise you get picked by
14:11Trades a whole bunch of assets to move up to pick you it didn't change your talent level
14:19Right just because they thought it was that important. Yeah, you see what I'm saying?
14:24You call him a bus cuz it didn't work out maybe never was that damn good and they were wrong and
14:30Evaluating him at that. That's not how bus no bus works. If you get picked high and you don't work out you're a bus
14:35It's not their mistake
14:46We'll tell him so wait, yeah according to you according to you. Mm-hmm
14:53Drew B Drew Brees was a bus for the Chargers. No
14:58No
14:59Circumstances put them in a position to get away
15:03You have been what the circle he had a good last year with the Chargers
15:07But why are you the person that determines what rules to apply for bus?
15:15Oh
15:18Standard rules because we've given same similar situation. No, I got it ready. Yeah, I'm gonna combine both of your premises
15:27You can't be a bus if
15:30You played longer than five years
15:32Because you're gonna get you're gonna get what the NFL gives you if you get to a second contract, right?
15:39And you're part of the NFL NFL's, uh, you know with that team though pension checks and all of that it doesn't matter
15:46No, if you go to another team, you could still you're still a bus for your ass franchise. So is Jadavia clowny a bus
15:52Yes
15:54Really? Yeah, I would say so. How about what's the old boy playing? He plays for the Saints now from Ohio State
16:01the Russian
16:03He got drafted. Oh chase young chase. Yeah
16:07Yeah, he's a bus bus
16:09But he has it. He has that Jadavia and clowny in him, right?
16:12Yeah, but like he's dominant, but he don't really make no play. I think we all got fooled by that that tackle against, Michigan
16:20But that was an assault but but he's so let me ask you this Tobin
16:26Yeah, if there's a lot of expectations with you. Mm-hmm
16:31We put those expectations on these guys, okay may never be that good to start off with a matter
16:36That's what comes with responsibility. Tell you why cuz like in the NBA version
16:39Some people might would think Joe Smith was a bus
16:42He was the number one pick back in the days, but he played 12 years in the NBA and he was a solid frontcourt player
16:48So is it expectations? If you don't live up to the expectation expectation, I'll give it a perfect guy
16:54We had a view but you still played and
16:57Contributed are you considered a bus? Yes
17:00Okay, Michael Beasley, and I love him, right? I love Michael Beasley
17:05Oh, yeah, because he was number two in the draft. That's different bust. Oh
17:08J. Mayo, he played a long time to us. Oh
17:11J. Mayo
17:13How long do I look 15 years?
17:15Yeah, but he never he never ever was that score because he's a bust dude. I remind her bus