We Need to Head Towards Elections in a Year to a Year and a Half, Miftah Ismail
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00:00We are saying that politics goes one step ahead and many steps back.
00:05Right now, everyone is in a closed lane.
00:07Whether it is PTI, they have limited options.
00:11PMLN has very limited options.
00:14Even if they talk, how many concessions will they be able to give to each other?
00:19What do you think is the situation right now?
00:21I am asking the question of capacity.
00:23We all know what should happen.
00:25But do you see the capacity in leadership to get out of this situation?
00:34The Muslim League has mortgaged its politics for power.
00:39And it has ended politics.
00:41Now it is doing the last rites of power to a decent family.
00:46We have left the vote for respect.
00:48At one place, the daughter has become the Chief Minister.
00:50At another place, the brother has become the Prime Minister.
00:52The son-in-law has become something else.
00:54So, the goals of the Muslim League and the leadership family have become different.
01:01Compared to the goals of the Muslim League.
01:03It is a big party of Pakistan which was leading Pakistan.
01:07Its goals and the goals of the Muslim League have ended.
01:10Ibrahim Khan had done a wrong competition.
01:13Since he has come out of power, he has started competing with the army.
01:17And it was my belief that he should compete with political parties.
01:22And if you fight with the army and take the power, you cannot fight more than the army.
01:30You should try to fight with political parties.
01:33And the political struggle.
01:35He has talked to us in this area.
01:39About the protection of the constitution of Pakistan.
01:42That we should talk about the implementation of the constitution together.
01:46And I think that is more appropriate and better.
01:50That we should talk about the implementation of the constitution.
01:52And we should bring arguments in this.
01:55And we should shape the public opinion.
01:59That where have we taken our country?
02:02One thing which is the failure of this government.
02:05And because of which I think there will be a gap in the army and the government.
02:08That is that the government's delivery is zero.
02:11And the delivery of the view is zero.
02:14Like Mustafa said.
02:16That almost half of the Pakistanis are under the 10.5 crore Pakistani poverty line.
02:20Which you said in the beginning.
02:22That out of the 40 people who drowned in the boat, the majority were Pakistanis.
02:27So you see that whenever there is such an incident all over the world.
02:31So those who are going to lose their lives, those who are going to be martyred.
02:33They are our Pakistani children.
02:35So what is it that Pakistani children do not get employment in Pakistan.
02:39They have to wander the world.
02:41They have to go illegally.
02:43Why can't we educate our children here?
02:46Why can't we give employment to our children here?
02:48So I think that I can see some change.
02:53But I don't know where it will be.
02:57When you talk about change, what kind of change are you talking about?
03:00Are you talking about change in the political scene at the moment?
03:03Or are you talking about change in the temperature?
03:05Are you talking about change in the dynamics?
03:07The government has been visibly upset for some time.
03:10They didn't know about the backdrop negotiations.
03:12I think they only came to know when the confirmation came from Tehreek-e-Insaf.
03:16So are they talking about that change or what overall change are they talking about?
03:25Look, we all know that since the government does not have a mandate,
03:30it does not have moral authority.
03:32And if it does not have moral authority, then it plays a very limited role in the field.
03:36As Mustafa and Shahid Fawad have said, they cannot hold a meeting of the opposition leaders.
03:42So the mandate of the government is also very limited.
03:46They have got it according to the mandate given by the people.
03:50They are also working in a very limited way.
03:53So these are the phases.
03:56But now we have to see how long this phase is kept.
04:02Or this phase is now taken forward or the phase is changed.
04:06I think that if there are extensive negotiations,
04:11then they will have to understand that we have to change the direction of Pakistan.
04:17And you can do that by asking the public.
04:20So I think that we will go towards elections in the next few years.
04:24But before that, I think that everyone should sit together.
04:27And maybe after these backdoor negotiations, at least this will happen.
04:32And if the PTI also talks on the jurisdiction of the law,
04:36talks on the jurisdiction of the constitution, then it is more appropriate.
04:39If they only talk about getting Imran Khan sir released, then it will be a very narrow thing.
04:43I think there are a lot of problems with that.