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00:00Anthony, congratulations on the movie, man.
00:16What's up?
00:17Congratulations on that cool coat.
00:18Man, you're looking pretty spiffy yourself.
00:20Thank you very much, thank you very much.
00:23Man, new Captain America movie, new Marvel movie, you've been part of this, had this
00:26skin in the game for quite a while now.
00:28How personal has this character and his journey become to you and how comfortable was that
00:32transition from superhero to the superhero being?
00:38You know, it really means a lot to me that Sam Wilson is finally getting his time to
00:43shine.
00:44Just seeing where the character started and the humanity and dignity he brought to Captain
00:48America Winter Soldier and now carrying that into Captain America Brave New World, I'm
00:53just really proud to say I had input and an opinion on how Sam was going to look in
01:00this movie.
01:01And Julius and I talked about that constantly, just what was that representation of who Captain
01:07America was and who Sam was.
01:09So I think it comes across pretty well in the movie.
01:12Was it easy to reprogram your brain from seeing the words Captain America on a call sheet
01:15and not think of Chris?
01:16You know, that's me now, that's me.
01:20The reprogramming came in with, damn, I've got to work every day, that was the hard part.
01:26But it's funny when you think about the call sheet and you think about movies of this size
01:32and this magnitude, it's really about the people you're surrounded with.
01:36And Julius and I talked early on about our dream cast, our dream list of actors we could
01:41get if no wasn't an answer.
01:44And Harrison was on that list and Giancarlo was on that list.
01:49So it's just a great opportunity to be able to stand toe-to-toe with a bunch of actors
01:55you admire and respect.
01:56And always new, fresh and exciting, there's no kind of bittersweetness because I guess
02:00this family you've built over the years, these cast mates, these friends, the people you
02:03work with who kind of end up dropping off and going and doing other things and you're
02:08continuing the story.
02:09And getting Oscar nominations.
02:10And getting the Oscar award.
02:11Come on, let's just drop that, drop that tidbit in there for my man.
02:17That's in the future for you.
02:18You don't have to worry about that right now.
02:20But is there any element when you do these films that's sort of like, like you talked
02:23about summer camp, it's like going to summer camp and some of your best friends not being
02:25there anymore.
02:26Or is it always like, look at these new people, look at these new stuff?
02:28No, no, no.
02:29That was hard at first.
02:30Just because the idea of, you know, you see people once a year, once every two years.
02:35You know, some people got married, some people got divorced, some people had kids.
02:38You know, it's just, it becomes this idea of friendship being more than work.
02:44And, you know, making new friends, you know, like Harrison and Tim Blake and now Danny.
02:51It's really an amazing process how these movies bring us together and how much of ourselves
02:55we put in.
02:56And of course you're looking forward to the reunion of all the cast coming back together
02:59for the future.
03:00Oh, it's so much fun, yeah.
03:01300,000 people in one movie.
03:02Get them on, it's going to be great.
03:03Congratulations.
03:04Thank you so much, I appreciate it.
03:05Harrison, to your right please.
03:06Welcome Harrison, back to a sunny day in central London.
03:21Your relationship with this place goes back to, what, back in the Star Wars days, lodging
03:25in Notting Hill.
03:26How has this place changed over that time and do you kind of miss being able to skulk
03:30around unnoticed like you might have done in the old days?
03:34Well, obviously London's changed a lot, the world's changed a lot.
03:40It was a very exciting time then, it's a very demanding time now and London's always very
03:51vibrant and exciting place to visit, especially when the sun shines.
03:56Indeed, on the rare occasion.
03:58Speaking of vibrant and exciting, you're joining the most vibrant and exciting franchise in
04:02the movie business at the moment in the MCU.
04:05Let's talk about hulking out, Ruffalo's had a kind of monopoly on that in recent years.
04:09Did you take any pointers from him for this one?
04:12No, he wasn't available for a consultation, I just had to wing it.
04:17I hope he's not disappointed.
04:19I'm sure he's not.
04:21I'm sure a few fans would like to see whether you guys go toe-to-toe to work out which one
04:25is superior.
04:26Hulkier.
04:27Hulkier, which one's hulkier, yeah.
04:29I think taking over from the great William Hurt in Thaddeus Ross, is that the first time
04:33since Alec Baldwin that you've picked up off somebody else's role?
04:38Does that bring a new challenge, a different sort of challenge when you're taking over
04:41a role that somebody else has played so well?
04:43Well, I'm not sure the parallel between Alec Baldwin and Bill Hurt applies to what I've
04:53done, but it then becomes your responsibility to fill out the shoes that have walked before
05:01you.
05:04And I have a lot of help from the script, because the character's life becomes more
05:10complicated and interesting, perhaps.
05:14But the level of dramatic involvement here is very high.
05:24It's kind of operatic.
05:27And of course, I had not been part of a Marvel film before, but it was very interesting for
05:35me to be part of it.
05:36Talking about dramatic involvement, over in the States at the moment, they have decided
05:41there would be a sort of Hollywood envoy of the likes of Gibson, of the likes of Voight,
05:46of the likes of Stallone to improve the situation in Hollywood.
05:49Does it need anything?
05:50Thank you very much.
05:51It's really been nice talking to you.
05:52Very nicely done.
05:53Really, have a nice day.
05:54Beautiful day.
05:55Joining the kind of the Marvel juggernaut as a filmmaker, how daunting is the prospect
06:04of satisfying all those comic book hordes out there that are going to be blighting your
06:10life for the next 20, 30 years, no doubt?
06:13Look, it's really more so than anything.
06:15Sure, there's pressure, but I love making movies.
06:19I'm so fortunate to be in this world.
06:20There's a great history of these characters, and there's an incredible team at Marvel.
06:25So yeah, there's pressure, but I felt so supported, and they were such a collaborative team.
06:32You know, everybody there, Kevin Feige, Lou D'Esposito, Nate Moore, Keanu Davidson, and
06:37Gillian Henry, the team I worked with day to day, were just so supportive.
06:41So I felt great every step of the way.
06:44Making movies of this scale feels like a very specialised skill that works for some, sometimes
06:48doesn't work for others.
06:49How, as a filmmaker, do you make something personal to you, but inside this huge machinery?
06:57I think whatever the size of the movie is, you have to stay true to the emotional core
07:02and to the themes.
07:03So for me, it was about identifying those, and then working with the incredibly talented
07:07cast that we had to bring it to life in front of a screen.
07:10So I never felt like, oh my god, this movie is so massive, but I don't know how to tell
07:16this story, because I think we were very clear about who these characters were, what the
07:21themes were, and we focused on that.
07:23And whether you're making a little indie like my previous film, or a film like this, it's
07:27about the life in front of the camera, and we were so fortunate to have an excellent
07:30cast.
07:31And it's called A Brave New World.
07:32There's a lot of new concepts and new areas where Marvel hasn't delved in before.
07:35Does that help you shed the weight of what's come before, and the stories that have already
07:40been told?
07:41You know, I think having Sam Wilson, having Anthony Mackie in this role, he's introducing
07:46us to a new Captain America, so that's taking us forward in a really, really unique and
07:51special way.
07:52Yet, he's connected to the history, obviously, going back to Winter Soldier, and his relationship
07:57with Steve.
07:58So this was an opportunity to look back and look forward at the same time, and that was
08:02really exciting.
08:03Congratulations, man.
08:05Congratulations on the movie.
08:06You feel like the most prepped to take in this cold, man.
08:09I'm wearing more layers than you can see as well, believe you me.
08:12I'm absolutely gold this year.
08:14But, starting in any kind of franchise, starting in any kind of job, it's difficult and daunting
08:18enough.
08:19But when you're doing the job and playing a character, or playing the role loosely that
08:24your co-star has been playing successfully for many, many years, what's that like on
08:30set?
08:31Is that kind of a corner of your eye looking going, is he judging how I'm doing this?
08:34Well, no, I think it's, they're different people, right?
08:39But from the very first time when we did it on the TV show, Falcon and Winter Soldier,
08:43it was, I realised how simple my job was.
08:46Because Danny as an actor, and Joaquin as someone that has this hero right there in
08:50his vicinity, all I had to do was observe him.
08:54And so it wasn't necessarily here looking over my shoulder to see if I was doing it
08:56right.
08:57It was literally like, alright, what are you doing?
08:59Because then I get to quite literally learn from you, how you engage with the room, how
09:03you lead the culture on set, like Danny looking at Anthony.
09:08But then for Joaquin to look at Sam, it was like, how are you a leader?
09:11How are you taking on this mantle?
09:13And so it was kind of an art imitating life and life imitating art.
09:17So for me it felt like quite, it took away all that stress and that pressure.
09:20This sort of learning curve you've been on the last couple of years, it's kind of mind
09:24blowing, I guess, if you were to sit down to yourself as a little boy and say, this
09:28is what's going to happen over this period of time.
09:30Doing the Top Gun stuff, working with Tom Cruise, moving into this, working with Anthony,
09:34working with Harrison Ford and the like.
09:38Has it been like a roller coaster for you, or are you just trying to soak up as much
09:43as possible?
09:44And how is this kind of experience different from the last one?
09:48Well, I think it hasn't been that much of a roller coaster.
09:52Press stuff is roller coaster-y because we're going from one city to the other.
09:55On set, there is a through line between all these greats that I've been lucky to work
10:00with, which is, and I always say this, success leaves clues, right?
10:03There's an inherent quality within all their work, these artists that I've been able to
10:08play with, and it's consistently like caring for your craft, putting more energy into it
10:14than anybody else could fathom.
10:16And that doesn't make it that simple, obviously, because then it's like, okay, where are the
10:20hours of the day?
10:21But I think that is something that I've carried with me and want to keep carrying through
10:24the rest of my career.
10:25It would be foolish of me to ignore what's made them so successful, you know?
10:30And, well, talking about what's made them so successful, what do you think is the secret
10:34source of this particular franchise?
10:36It's just grown and grown and grown and turned into something that I don't think anyone expected
10:3920 years ago.
10:42Why do you think it keeps uniting people in how society gets more and more polarised,
10:46people still tuning into these Marvel movies, we're still breaking bread over these stories?
10:50Well, I think it's craftsmanship.
10:53The comics are obviously magical, the stories are magical, but there's other magical stuff
10:56in the world, right?
10:57But Marvel does such a great job of collecting and bringing into groups some of the best
11:03craftsmen in the industry.
11:05So that's where art, from stunts to the actors, it gives you the state-of-the-art tools to
11:13be able to tell a story.
11:15And even then, it's always a film success as a crapshoot, because there has to be that
11:19little bit of madness and magic, and I think we're so blessed to just be able to work with
11:25the best of the best, from cinematographers to directors, and I think when it boils down
11:29to that, it's a company that believes in art and just brings in the best collaborators
11:35possible.
11:36Well, finally, Falcon's had a great trajectory so far, looking forward to becoming Captain
11:39America in about 10 years' time?
11:40Oh, come on!
11:41Just trying to get the clickbait on that one!