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Video Information: 9.12.22, Interview with Kuntal, Mumbai

Context:
Acharya Prashant in conversation with mountaineer Kuntal Joisher discussing climate change, consumption, beauty and global warming.

Winning the Everest, without killing

~ Is climate change real?
~ How is climate change affecting Himalayas and other sensitive ecosystems?
~ What can one do to save Earth?
~ Did Krishna really drink milk?
~ Is milk central to the Bhagwad Gita
~ What is real beauty?
~ Why are humans destroying the Earth?
~ How to save the planet?

Music Credits: Milind Date
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Transcript
00:00So, I had this question, 3 years ago we had a daughter and it was of course through a
00:09vegan pregnancy. My wife has been a vegan for the last 5 years and we decided that when
00:14we wanted to have a kid that we would have a vegan pregnancy and we would raise the kid
00:18as a vegan. But when we were doing that or when we decided that we will raise a kid as
00:24a vegan or we will go through a vegan pregnancy, again there was a lot of pushback from my
00:28family, from my close relatives, some of them calling up and telling me, Kundal you
00:33are making a very big mistake, you are hedging the future of your to be kid and what if something
00:40goes wrong, what if things kind of fall apart and a lot of those kind of things and even
00:46after our baby was born they were like no, please give the baby milk, the milk is a very
00:50required kind of a thing and otherwise our baby will have issues and those kind of things,
00:58they kind of continued and so there was a lot of kind of struggle with the family around
01:05this topic where we want to be vegans and we are not trying to change you. I mean if
01:11you want to change, we are here to help and we are here to guide you but we as a family
01:15of 3 would like to kind of make our choice and be vegan and not harm anyone and not harm
01:21any other sentient being for our existence. So I am sure a lot of your audience would
01:29also be kind of in a lot of these kind of dilemmas where they are struggling with their
01:33family, friends and how do we kind of? I don't know how we are able to just suspend
01:38our common sense when it comes to these simple obvious things. I mean the baby obviously
01:45does require milk, her mother's milk and nature has provided for it, nature has her
01:51own intelligence, Prakriti knows how to take care of her kids, be it the human kid or the
01:59kids of the millions of other species that are there, they exist because they have been
02:05taken care of, right? Think of this, the atmospheric pressure is just about very rightly
02:18tuned with your blood pressure. That's the kind of consideration an invisible force has
02:28for you. In fact the very concept of Ishwar is nothing but Prakriti. Prakriti herself
02:36has also been called as Devi and also as Ishwar. So we couldn't have been sitting here had
02:44the atmospheric pressure been any lower. Blood would have been sprouting out of our veins
02:53and noses and we would be bleeding through our mouths and all other places. Equally if
03:00the blood pressure, if the atmospheric pressure increases, we would collapse. The heart would
03:06not be able to tolerate the kind of resistance it would face. This body is a product of this
03:16universe and more specifically the planet Earth. We are provided for, we are cared for. We do not
03:29need to, we do not need to act additionally so very smart. So there is this beautiful one by
03:42the great saint poet Tulsidas. He says it is done by the Lord, take that as Prakriti. He talks
03:57of the Amarbel. He says why are you so, why are you so bothered and anxious? So there is this
04:14creeper Lata that supposedly has no roots and still it lives. It lives by drawing nutrition
04:25from huge trees. It just attaches itself in a symbiotic way to their large trunks and survives
04:37and lives and it's an existing species I think. I don't know the details but get the drift please.
04:45Why are you so anxious? Why are you so anxious? It just happens. I want to ask is there any species in the
05:03entire existence that thrives on others' milk? No, no. When you say milk means mammals. Right.
05:13Think of any other mammal that is built to live on and be nurtured on some other mammal's milk.
05:25Not one. Not a single one. Then how are our bodies in requirement of buffalo or goat or cow milk?
05:35In fact, it rings an alarm. If that's not what nature, Prakriti wanted us to have, is it not
05:45possible that it is actually harmful? That when you consume any kind of milk other than your
05:55mother's milk, it is actually harming your body. Is it not possible? And to the extent I have read
06:01and I have tried to read in a fair bit of detail, milk consumption is actually harmful because our
06:10bodies are really not designed to absorb, digest, metabolize beyond a certain age. The kid has the
06:23enzymes that can break milk down, the milk enzymes, the lactose. As you grow up, you simply have no
06:34chemical inside to deal with the fluid called milk you are ingesting. So what does it do to you? It
06:44remains undigested. Also, it causes a lot of diseases, gastric problems, flatulence. And we
07:04have no dearth of intelligence in this country. We are so smart when it comes to designing bridges,
07:13writing codes, even sending rockets and satellites into the space and then into the orbits. We are
07:26very smart people. But when it comes to fundamental issues like these, we just suspend our thinking
07:36faculty.

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