La situación en Argentina es crítica debido a incendios forestales devastadores, con miles de hectáreas de bosque nativo destruidas, cientos de familias evacuadas y una vida perdida. El gobernador critica a un juez por proteger a los presuntos responsables, quienes son acusados de reivindicar los incendios como actos revolucionarios. Se promete una recompensa de 10 millones para información relevante, mientras se busca llevar el caso al Consejo de la Magistratura para su revisión.
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00:00Nacho, the situation is terrible. The images that are coming in are really strong.
00:05The work of firefighters without sleeping, also by the government.
00:13And the truth is that it hurts us, those of us who know some part of this and who have seen ashes today.
00:19The images are really strong.
00:23Yes, well, you, in the introduction, referred to something that is serious.
00:28We are talking about characters with revolutionary delirium of coffee,
00:35who claim the attacks and who do not take into account the damage they do.
00:41We are talking about thousands of hectares of native forest that take hundreds of years to recover.
00:47Hundreds of evacuated families, more than 200 families who lost everything.
00:53A life was also lost.
00:55We had the possibility to advance specifically in the investigation.
01:02There are already three detainees.
01:04But notice that in parallel to the fact that the firefighters are putting their bodies,
01:10they are putting their lives at risk to protect so many Chubutans and Rionegrinos.
01:15Yesterday, we arrested three people in Flagancia, setting fire, escaping from the place.
01:25We finished extinguishing that fire and we already have another fire alert.
01:29Beyond the fact that we have detained these four people, there are still accomplices.
01:35There are also characters who, in cohesion, are linked to these organizations.
01:42That is why it is essential to advance in the investigation,
01:47to give it a definitive cut and not to continue impugning.
01:51They are criminals, they are thugs.
01:53You said well, it has nothing to do with the original communities.
01:57They are the same, they found him a week ago stealing a car,
02:00they did not find him making a Camaruco.
02:02Of course.
02:03And with what he said, he would only have to be arrested.
02:05I personally signed the complaint so that they put him in jail.
02:10A guy who tells you that he is willing to set fire,
02:13that he leads a political-military organization and claims what is happening.
02:18When an organization like the RAM, on the side of Chile,
02:21was convicted of one of the attacks in the Mankay estate with Molotov bombs,
02:26that guy has to be in jail, he has to have preventive measures.
02:29Why isn't he there, Ignacio?
02:31Why isn't he there?
02:32I don't understand it, I just said it out loud.
02:35On the one hand we have, and I have to say this,
02:37an ordinary provincial justice that is advancing excellently,
02:44responsibly, with preventive measures, with detentions.
02:48And on the other hand we have a federal justice that is guaranteed,
02:53that is vague, that does not put what it has to put,
02:57and that in part is responsible.
02:59I am specifically talking about Judge Guido Tranto,
03:02who delayed the first eviction for months,
03:06which I am convinced is the cause of many of these protests.
03:15And these people don't act.
03:16They kick everything for higher authorities, for the federal chamber,
03:21and months or even years end,
03:24where these people are still free, unfortunately.
03:29I am optimistic and I am convinced that not only will they end up in jail,
03:34but that there will be an exemplary measure,
03:36because I am seeing the work that the provincial justice is doing.
03:41But I also have to say that there is a federal justice that kicks us against,
03:46and that seems to work more for the criminals,
03:51than to do justice by defending the victims.
03:54As I was saying, a family that lost everything,
03:57a life that was lost in the pocket,
04:00and we have judges who, behind a desk,
04:03do nothing but serve the criminals.
04:05Justice kicks us against.
04:06The producer just told me that he is listening.
04:09We are all here on the floor listening to you, Ignacio.
04:12Look, how can I explain it?
04:16It is very difficult for me to measure myself on television.
04:19Everyone tells me, how are you going to say that?
04:21Well, we are in front of a terrorist organization.
04:25It is not far from that.
04:27This man making the video that I just showed you on the screen,
04:30is clearly a terrorist organization,
04:32and this man calls himself the leader of that terrorist organization.
04:36And he perceives himself as a terrorist.
04:38And what gives me panic and terror,
04:41is that he is walking, just like me, on the ground as if nothing happened.
04:44I mean, that's what I'm going for.
04:46And now you tell me that justice is going to kick us against.
04:49So, how do we do it?
04:51How do you do it, Ignacio?
04:52You are the governor.
04:53Let me explain.
04:54I am a simple citizen.
04:55I am a journalist.
04:56Now, for a governor to tell me that,
04:58for me, it is dramatic.
05:00It is a terrible situation that you have to live through.
05:03I will tell you what we are doing.
05:06First, in addition to arresting those responsible
05:10and trying to manage everything on the provincial level,
05:14seeing that there is a judge who dilates...
05:17In fact, it is the same judge...
05:19Look what I'm telling you.
05:20It is the same judge who, at the time,
05:22did not want to extradite Chile, Zones Guala,
05:26for alleged, supposedly, abuse of the police
05:31to this guy, to this thug, to this criminal,
05:34to this terrorist who perceives himself as the leader
05:38of a political-military organization.
05:40So, we are talking about the same judge
05:43who, at the time, showed how to protect these criminals.
05:47That's why, in my case, I'm going to take this issue
05:51also to the Council of the Magistrate
05:53to depurify, once and for all,
05:56that federal justice, those judges
06:00who attack the security of so many Argentines,
06:04who do not care or defend the sovereignty of our country
06:07because there is a matter of sovereignty.
06:09These people do not recognize the Argentine state as such.
06:12In Chile, the growth of violence was exponential
06:16when things were not done as they should be done
06:20and we cannot allow the same to happen here.
06:22So, in the Council of the Magistrate
06:24there will be a complaint against this judge
06:27who is functional to the criminals
06:30and that all Argentines know by name and last name
06:33who are those judges who hide behind a desk
06:37also believing that they are untouchable
06:40so that they do not only pay the consequences
06:42that they have to pay
06:44not only do they eat a jury like they have to eat
06:47but they also have to have the respective social sentence
06:50in each of the localities.
06:52From here, everyone knows who Guido Tranto is
06:54and everyone knows that he kicks the ball to the corner
06:57and that he never puts what he has to put
06:59to solve the problems.
07:01Governor, what you say is in consonance
07:04with the position, at least what we understand
07:09of Governor Beretilnec of the province of Rio Negro.
07:13I bring it to this day
07:15because we are seeing images
07:17and more dramatic hours are coming
07:21unfortunately in the area of El Bolson
07:23and to the south, to the area of Lake Puelo
07:25there they are at the limit
07:27precisely between the provinces of Rio Negro
07:29and Chubut.
07:31How is the work going to work?
07:33How is the work going to intensify there
07:35taking into account that there are families
07:37who are being evacuated at the moment
07:39and that unfortunately
07:41because of the causes you are describing
07:43we are talking in concrete terms
07:47and if this is proven
07:49of environmental and human terrorism
07:53how are they fighting at the moment?
07:55How are they planning between the two provinces
07:57to try
07:59humanly to do what is possible
08:01to save those lives
08:03and the maximum of their belongings?
08:07We are working together
08:09there are two provinces
08:11that we are united
08:13fighting against the fire
08:15the fire does not ask for permission
08:17to go from one province to another
08:19there are no borders
08:21the brigadists of Rio Negro and Chubut
08:23are working together
08:25the situation, unfortunately
08:27because of the winds
08:29that there were
08:31the fire in El Bolson became complicated
08:33something similar to what happened
08:35in Nepuyen
08:37that is why we have all the human resources
08:39and all the infrastructure
08:41put at the service
08:43to accompany and help
08:45the sister province of Rio Negro
08:47in a difficult moment
08:49where these days are key
08:51these 48 hours
08:53are key
08:55to be able to contain
08:57this does not mean
08:59to finish controlling
09:01but to contain that fire
09:03that probably grew
09:05precisely because of the strong winds
09:07Governor
09:09for those who are watching us
09:11to understand
09:13I think there is a political decision
09:15that is clear
09:17to detain these people
09:19the decision is
09:21but it contrasts with the judicial decision
09:23that is obviously absent
09:25here I am taking notes
09:27Judge of Guarantee Ricardo Calcaño
09:29orders the release of the 6 detainees
09:31Governor, nobody escapes
09:33if they are innocent
09:35when they were caught, they escaped
09:37our people are detained
09:39that is why I claim
09:41the justice of the province of Chubut
09:43and I also claim
09:45the investigation that the prosecutors are doing
09:47the decision
09:49to put a reward of 10 million
09:51for those who provide
09:53information and guarantee
09:55anonymity responds
09:57precisely to the fact that
10:00there is an investigation that is on the right track
10:02and the truth is that
10:04surely
10:06soon
10:08we will be able to guarantee
10:10not only that the responsible
10:12are imprisoned but that there is
10:14an exemplary measure once and for all
10:16in that I am convinced
10:18and I have full confidence
10:20in the officials who are working
10:22and in the police, the investigation brigade
10:24it is an abysmal difference
10:26when one sees that
10:28there is no vocation of service
10:30unlike when one sees
10:32in federal court
10:34that they scratch themselves, that they do absolutely nothing
10:36and that they are hidden
10:38under the desk because they do not dare
10:40to do what they have to do
10:42Mr. Governor, so that you can
10:44illustrate a little about what is the support
10:46that you are receiving from the national government
10:48we understand that the CONAE
10:50National Commission of Spatial Activities
10:52is working, is contributing
10:54also the integral system
10:56risk management, in the same way
10:58also the national fire management plan
11:00how is it working together
11:02and also with the support
11:04of the national government
11:06the truth is that it is working
11:08with a unified command
11:10together both
11:12from the point of view of
11:14investigation and security with the
11:16federal forces as well
11:18in what it does
11:20the fight against fire
11:22the national fire management system
11:24with three hydrant planes, a helicopter
11:26with drones
11:28also to be able to identify
11:30any start of a fire
11:32quickly
11:34and with the brigadists
11:36not only of the national system
11:38but also of many provinces that are collaborating
11:40as in the case of Córdoba
11:42Santiago del Estero
11:44the truth is that there is a
11:46very solidary work
11:48by all the provinces
11:50where there is no
11:52terrorism, there is no misery
11:54we are all back to back
11:56to be able to win
11:58the fight against fire
12:00quickly
12:02and guarantee tranquility
12:04to so many Argentines
12:06that the truth is that they are on alert
12:08they are in a very distressing situation
12:10and also accompanying
12:12those who have already lost everything
12:14to start rebuilding their homes
12:16to rebuild their lives
12:18I was just listening to this delirious
12:21claiming
12:23the attacks against the great landowners
12:25the families who lost
12:27everything are workers
12:29they are people who have worked all their lives
12:31to be able to have their little house
12:33to be able to have their chakras
12:35they are people of work
12:37do not confuse, do not talk about great landowners
12:39because these miserable
12:41took their lives
12:43of many families who worked
12:45all their lives to be able
12:47to have their homes
12:49they probably lost everything
12:51Governor, two questions
12:53and I will obviously
12:55release it and I thank you from the bottom of my heart
12:57the first, the way to help
12:59in an official way
13:01our phones explode
13:03of people who want to collaborate
13:05both economically
13:07with things, with mattresses
13:09with blankets, with food
13:11with material
13:13how are the official lines
13:15how can people not fall
13:17because just as there are terrorists
13:19who are setting fire
13:21there are terrorists who scam people
13:23and opportunists
13:25that's why we made the decision
13:27to suspend any type
13:29of economic aid
13:31because today the families have
13:33an accompaniment
13:35from the provincial government
13:37we are accompanying them
13:39to be able to rebuild their homes
13:41we are making a very important effort
13:43also to relocate
13:45the families that need to be relocated
13:47but we do not want
13:49to generate a problem
13:51where as you say
13:53there are some living people
13:55who publish false CBU
13:57for a supposed
13:59solidarity aid
14:01the truth is that the families are contained
14:03we are accompanying them
14:05and it is not necessary
14:07any
14:09economic aid
14:11in the event that it is necessary
14:13it is going to be done
14:15with some private
14:17some type of donation
14:19of medicine or whatever
14:21as it has been done at some point
14:23but no
14:25CBU is going to be opened
14:27for economic aid
14:29thank you very much governor
14:31and let's hope it is justice
14:33which is what we all want
14:35and that people of this
14:37scum do not cross the street
14:39like any of us
14:42but that justice is also going to be done
14:44against that justice that attacks
14:46the security of Argentines