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00:00Mr. Rana, please tell me, so that Mr. Kazmi and Mr. Saad can agree on this,
00:04that you are saying that we should adopt a political path.
00:06What exactly? What?
00:08What will happen? Mr. Khan wants us to do this.
00:10This will be a political path. What will that be?
00:14Look, in the 2018 elections,
00:17the polling booths were put up.
00:20The establishment put them up, and the result changed.
00:22This time, it changed later.
00:24Didn't Mr. Zardari and Mr. Shabaz Sharif
00:26stand up and say that we should come and do economic work?
00:29They also had an objection.
00:30They were not doing politics against Pakistan and its institutions.
00:33You have done it on 9th May.
00:35I am saying this for the third time in your program today.
00:36You will clear the doubts and doubts yourself.
00:39No one else will come and do it.
00:40So, trust your team.
00:42Trust your party.
00:45Mr. Zardari and Mr. Nawaz Sharif had made a PDM
00:47by trusting Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman.
00:49And then, they achieved their political goals with it.
00:52Where is Mr. Khan standing?
00:54He is changing the Prime Minister every day.
00:56The second Prime Minister is saying,
00:57Mr. Khan has told me not to do it.
01:00So, tell your people that when your wife is told
01:03that she has come out on the field and she has come out right,
01:05then why is Hamad Azhar hiding?
01:07Okay. Mr. Kazmi, you tell me,
01:10don't you think it is not right that,
01:12after all, there is a story of the 23rd election.
01:16After the 18th election,
01:17two votes would have been less or ten votes would have been less,
01:19but the votes would have been less.
01:21If you agree, you may have a different opinion.
01:23Or at least, it is a coincidence that
01:25the Noon League was convinced that they had been treated unfairly.
01:28This was their stance.
01:29Even then, despite being an opposition leader,
01:32despite going to jail,
01:33they still wanted to protest.
01:34That is to say, they had kept one way open.
01:37Shouldn't Mr. Khan also keep one such way open here?
01:41Because ultimately, your community is the same political community.
01:44You don't want to be an army chief,
01:46you don't want to be a Chief Justice,
01:47you want to be a Prime Minister.
01:48So, your community is the same.
01:50Even if you are the Prime Minister here,
01:51you don't even sit for the corona test.
01:53Even if you are the Prime Minister,
01:54you don't shake hands with the opposition leader
01:55and you don't shake hands with the thieves.
01:56If there is not even this much co-existence,
01:59how will it work?
02:02Look, what you said in the beginning
02:04that there was noise in the 2018 election
02:05and there was noise in the 2024 election as well.
02:07But what is the problem?
02:09The problem is that
02:10at the moment, a similar solution is being presented
02:14that you sit with this government
02:15and talk to this government.
02:17It is similar to how
02:18Chahat Fateh Ali Khan has opened an academy
02:20to teach people music.
02:22So, if you want to take democracy from them,
02:24the 17 seats that the government has created at the moment,
02:28your parliament is not complete.
02:30Was the parliament incomplete after 2018?
02:33Were specific seats stopped in it?
02:36Was the election of the Senate stopped
02:40from the KP or Sindh?
02:42Was there a situation in it that is still the same?
02:46At that time, they were trying to bring Pika,
02:48but the Moses court blew it up.
02:50Look, the situation is completely different at the moment.
02:53The real issue is that we have to believe
02:56that our voice should be absolutely clear
02:58that whoever is going against the law and the constitution,
03:01he is doing injustice to this country.
03:03Until we don't believe this,
03:04the victim may be someone else at the moment,
03:07it may be someone else in the past,
03:08but this thing should be clear
03:10that whatever politics will be in the country,
03:12it will be within the law and the constitution.
03:14If you say that you have won the election,
03:17or when you win, you have no issue,
03:21then this issue will continue.
03:24So I don't see this issue being solved
03:26because whatever politics is happening at the moment,
03:30whatever debate is happening,
03:33it is not happening within the law and the constitution,
03:35it is happening outside of it.
03:36Until this matter continues,
03:38we will remain in this position.
03:39We will have to agree on a few things.
03:42You can tell many examples of the Noon League,
03:45you can tell Mr. Zardari,
03:46and then Mr. Khan, who is being watched right now,
03:48that this is a fact,
03:49even if we leave the allegations,
03:51as Mr. Khan said,
03:53that it was not my issue with Faizi,
03:56but he said that Faiz Ameen did it,
03:58so I did it, he is fine.
03:59Or we had to call MKM,
04:02we had to get it done through MKM,
04:04that is, we had to get it done through the army,
04:06that brother, let us vote.
04:07And we know all this.
04:09So then the politicians will have to realize first
04:11that brother, you are the lion,
04:12because you people bring the votes,
04:14you don't look elsewhere,
04:15then please,
04:16because the real lion should really be the people.
04:18But at that time,
04:19when the politicians,
04:20please understand yourself as a lion,
04:22do you agree, Mr. Kazmi?
04:24Yes, of course,
04:25the role of the politicians is very important,
04:27but even then, Mr. Badami,
04:28what was the issue?
04:29The issue was the same,
04:30the complaint was that
04:31the law and the law are not being followed.
04:33What is the issue even now?
04:35The issue is the same,
04:35that the law and the law are not being followed,
04:38so the main problem is that
04:40you are standing where you are.
04:41And in this,
04:42where the role of the politicians is,
04:44as a nation,
04:45it is the role of all of us.
04:47Look, we normalize things,
04:48we normalize things.
04:50This is what happens here.
04:51In which country in the world
04:53does Dhaneshwar TV say
04:54that he should get the most votes?
04:56But there is no acceptance of this.
04:58Don't we oppress
04:59when we present acceptance-like philosophies?
05:02Whatever is wrong is right,
05:04Imran Khan should do it,
05:05Mr. Mian should do it,
05:06or someone else should do it,
05:06at least we should tell that.
05:08Until we are not clear in our minds,
05:11we say that this is ground reality.
05:13Is this ground reality?
05:15Is it right or wrong?
05:16You tell us this.
05:17If you say something wrong is wrong,
05:18if you say right is right,
05:19no matter who it is,
05:20then only the problem will be solved.
05:21Otherwise, this debate will continue like this.