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Constitutional Amendments - Whose victory was it and whose defeat? - Malick's Analysis

Constitutional Amendments Passed - What is PTI's strategy?

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00:00Assalam-o-Alaikum, you are watching Khabar Lahariya, I am Haud Malik.
00:16These are the documents.
00:18The whole fight that had been going on for the past 2-3 months,
00:20finally, this morning,
00:22in fact, yesterday I was in the Assembly Hall,
00:24at 4.30-5.30 in the night,
00:26when there was a division of vote,
00:28the House had to be divided,
00:30everything was wrapped up.
00:32It was a very mixed feeling.
00:34I think,
00:36there are a lot of actions of the judges
00:38in our judiciary,
00:40they were justifying
00:42a lot of changes that were made in the law.
00:44But having said that,
00:46the way it was done,
00:48it was not being justified at all.
00:50And I was thinking,
00:52yesterday when I was listening to the speech of Bilawul Bhutto,
00:54he gave a very good speech,
00:56I must say, he spoke very well.
00:58He spoke very well.
01:00Umar Ayyubi also spoke very well.
01:02Khawaja Asad also spoke very well.
01:04Everybody had something.
01:06And it felt as if
01:08I was looking at another planet's parliament.
01:10Because when we were talking about this parliament,
01:12and the Democrats sitting there,
01:14it felt as if
01:16there are no more principled people than this.
01:18And they should have
01:20all the powers
01:22that they have got after this amendment.
01:24But then I was thinking,
01:26when the case of Sar-e-Palace happened,
01:28did any people's party
01:30ask Zardari
01:32to answer them?
01:34Then when the case of Ravenfield happened,
01:36did anyone ask
01:38Mian sir to answer?
01:40Everyone was climbing up
01:42to justify.
01:44Imran Khan's case came up,
01:46Farah Gogi's issue came up,
01:48one by one, the senior PTA leaders
01:50were trying to prove Farah Gogi as an angel.
01:52So these people
01:54who can't speak in front of their leaders,
01:56who are
01:58in front of the media,
02:00we did breaking stories
02:02on them,
02:04then those same people
02:06say that give us all the powers on the judges.
02:08The decisions that the judges have made
02:10are also in front of us.
02:12So it was a strange mix pack.
02:14But the most surprising thing was that
02:16when I was listening to all these things,
02:18the most ubiquitous
02:20presence was
02:22interestingly
02:24those five people,
02:26who were free to speak,
02:28were free to fight elections,
02:30but yesterday they were not free
02:32in any way.
02:34And when their body language,
02:36if body language can tell you anything,
02:38I have seen the conscious mind,
02:40I have seen the dead mind in life,
02:42it has been 40 years in this profession,
02:44I have not seen such a terrifying
02:46thing as I have seen yesterday.
02:48What is the reality?
02:50But definitely,
02:52these were not the faces that you would think
02:54that someone has taken 50 crores
02:56or 60 crores and is waiting for the party time.
02:58It seemed that the convincing reasons were something else.
03:00It was a sad day.
03:02It was a sad day for democracy.
03:04It was a sad day for judicial independence.
03:06But let's see where it will go in the future.
03:08Because of the judiciary,
03:10earlier we were also in favor of
03:12the improvement of the judiciary,
03:14there should be independence,
03:16but will there be independence now?
03:18But the biggest thing is,
03:20where is the PTI now?
03:22We are getting mixed signals.
03:24That is why we have invited
03:26the Leader of the Opposition,
03:28the National Assembly,
03:30and the Senior Leader of the PTI.
03:32Thank you very much.
03:34First of all,
03:36we are not able to understand you
03:38when you are standing here.
03:40When this round started,
03:42you did not give any advice.
03:44When you came to the House yesterday,
03:46you gave a speech,
03:48then you left after a boycott.
03:50Now a special committee is being formed.
03:52You are also giving your name
03:54in that committee,
03:56who has to give recommendations
03:58for the Chief Justice.
04:00You know that it will be a meaningless exercise.
04:02You will not be heard.
04:04But having said that,
04:06you are in the Parliament,
04:08but you are not in the committees.
04:10In this process,
04:12if you would have given your opinion,
04:14there would have been better changes.
04:16At least you would have been able to speak.
04:18You would have said that
04:20no one listened to you.
04:22You did not do this.
04:24You did not protect your people
04:26who were kidnapped or kidnapped.
04:28In fact, you gave the opposite call.
04:30You are threatening their lives
04:32and their families.
04:34On one hand,
04:36you say that
04:38there has been a lot of injustice
04:40against the people.
04:42On the other hand,
04:44you will get your victims
04:46kidnapped by your own people.
04:48Explain to me,
04:50what is the policy of PTI?
04:52Thank you very much.
04:54You asked the right question.
04:56The first thing is that
04:58when the 18th amendment was passed,
05:00there were 93 amendments.
05:02It took approximately
05:049 months.
05:06When this special committee
05:08was formed,
05:10I spoke in a speech yesterday.
05:12It was my recommendation
05:14that this special committee
05:16should be formed
05:18when the rules and privileges
05:20of MNAs are being violated
05:22in Adyala jail.
05:24I wrote to the speaker
05:26and he wrote back
05:28to the speaker of Call India
05:30regarding this matter.
05:32He said that
05:34this matter
05:36cannot be extended.
05:38I told him
05:40to make a special committee
05:42and tell us
05:44about the rules
05:46and privileges of the members
05:48and what happened in the last 10 years
05:50and what is happening now.
05:52When the intelligence
05:54came to the National Assembly,
05:56they
05:58attacked our people
06:00and dragged them out.
06:02They wrongly arrested them
06:04and humiliated the parliament.
06:06At that time,
06:08we again called for a special committee
06:10and the speaker
06:12formed it
06:14and made Saeen Khursheed Shah
06:16its head.
06:18This is the continuation of that matter.
06:20This special committee
06:22is a vehicle.
06:24A truck is a vehicle
06:26and it is for a purpose.
06:28A vehicle is made of four wheels.
06:30If you take a vehicle
06:32and put it in the field
06:34to dig a hole,
06:36it is misused.
06:38Similarly, this committee
06:40was misused for constitutional amendments.
06:42But you were sitting there.
06:44You went there.
06:46No, that is the reason.
06:48We went there
06:50because on the first day
06:52when we were called,
06:54we said that this is about our MNAs.
06:56When they brought this thing forward
06:58we said that you are doing
07:00it wrong.
07:02The second important thing
07:04is that we went there
07:06because we did not want
07:08to leave the goal post open.
07:10The first amendment that you
07:12came to your colleagues
07:14was about 55-56.
07:16Along with that,
07:18Pakistan was going to become
07:20Burma, North Korea plus.
07:22Number one.
07:24Number two, slowly, slowly.
07:26The law minister himself
07:28had 10 meetings there.
07:30In the last 10th meeting
07:32it was approved.
07:34And the approval of the 10th meeting
07:36happened on that day.
07:38Pakistan Tariq Insaaf
07:40and we were sitting
07:42in Maulana Fazlur Rehman's house.
07:44We were sitting in Maulana's house.
07:46And from behind,
07:48these people approve the amendment.
07:50This amendment goes
07:52to the cabinet.
07:54The cabinet approves
07:56and the committee approves
07:58are different.
08:00Therefore, this government
08:02has fraud with this committee
08:04and with the entire parliament.
08:06Point number one.
08:08Point number two is that
08:10all the meetings that took place
08:12there was no point-by-point reading
08:14of this amendment.
08:16Because they did not have copies.
08:18These copies came from the shop
08:20or somewhere else.
08:22The law minister used to come
08:24and say,
08:26I have not found it yet.
08:28This is your position.
08:30You are the
08:32quote-unquote father of the document.
08:34There is no clarification for this.
08:36The document comes from my ministry
08:38when I make it.
08:40Read this story to someone else.
08:42Mr. Azam Tarar.
08:44This is not a factual position.
08:46We were there.
08:48That has happened.
08:50Time is in Pakistan's favor.
08:52We have public support.
08:54I was talking to you
08:56before this program.
08:58Economic conditions
09:00are going to get worse.
09:02This is not a thought.
09:04This is just a stock market
09:06indication.
09:08The mega-antiquetters
09:10are very positive for them.
09:12What is the reason for the current
09:14account deficit?
09:16They have put restrictions on imports.
09:18Restrictions
09:20are being eased off.
09:22Interest rates are coming down.
09:24Finch ratings are getting better.
09:26Multilateral
09:28loaning is getting better.
09:30Go to the depth of this.
09:32I support them a lot.
09:34Mega-antiquetters are good.
09:36No, sir. I disagree.
09:38We should also understand this field.
09:40Alhamdulillah.
09:42Common people do not benefit from this.
09:44I will tell you.
09:46Your inflation is going to increase.
09:48Your oil will also increase.
09:50Your dollar is increasing.
09:52Where are you people standing?
09:54You people said
09:56whatever the government said,
09:58they did it.
10:00They did it forcefully.
10:02It has been a year.
10:04Your chairman is also inside.
10:06You people said it will come out next week.
10:08It will come out in two weeks.
10:10It has been a year.
10:12They are not coming out.
10:14You people are saying
10:16that it has been 15 days.
10:18There was no electricity for 10 days.
10:20There was no newspaper for 8 days.
10:22News is tightening.
10:24Legal developments have happened.
10:26Legal news will tighten a lot.
10:28These have become constitutional benches.
10:30Tomorrow,
10:32as we are all listening,
10:34and the leadership is also saying
10:36that there is a risk of Imran Khan's military trial
10:38in the court.
10:40He will go to these benches.
10:42You could not stop him.
10:44Every week,
10:46you give a call.
10:48People are tired of your workers
10:50being beaten.
10:52You are taking people.
10:54There is a limit to how many people
10:56will be beaten.
10:58We have staying power.
11:00They don't have it.
11:02Alhamdulillah.
11:04Your common workers have staying power.
11:06You may have it.
11:08You are the grandson of Ayub Khan.
11:10We have staying power
11:12in terms of resolve.
11:14Our party
11:16has gained a lot.
11:18Number one.
11:20Number two,
11:22you said about stopping them.
11:24You yourself saw the condition
11:26of those five workers.
11:28How they were brought.
11:30They were trembling.
11:32Number one.
11:34Number two.
11:36Number three,
11:38we are not protecting them.
11:40We are not threatening them.
11:42You are going out of their houses.
11:44You are going out of their houses.
11:46Their houses have been destroyed.
11:48Listen to me.
11:50Zahoor Qureshi was outside.
11:52When he comes back,
11:54his family is squeezed.
11:56They come back from outside.
11:58What do we do?
12:00People of PTI were standing
12:02at the immigration counter.
12:04They were with handcuffs.
12:06They were kept at safe places.
12:08When there was pressure on their families,
12:10they left.
12:12That's a fact.
12:14I have been watching
12:16their social media since yesterday.
12:18What your social media
12:20is doing with them.
12:22There are no posters.
12:24There are no banners on the roads.
12:26You can do anything
12:28to them.
12:30When you yourself believe that
12:32they are victims,
12:34why are you targeting
12:36the victims?
12:38We target them as well.
12:40I am taking their names.
12:42We take their names.
12:44People are scared.
12:46We talk about it in the parliament.
12:48We talk about it everywhere.
12:50The other important thing is that
12:52our other colleagues
12:54offered a lot of money.
12:56I am not talking about the offers.
12:58I can see that they are not
13:00offering money.
13:02They have used
13:04all their means.
13:06They threw money
13:08in front of the parliament.
13:10You are adamant
13:12that there will be
13:14demonstrations outside their houses.
13:16If anything happens to anyone tomorrow,
13:18how will you react?
13:20We are not saying anything.
13:22If you create a situation,
13:24what will happen?
13:26We are not saying anything.
13:28Who said that?
13:30We are not saying anything.
13:32We are just saying that there will be
13:34a demonstration outside their houses.
13:36You are just saying that there will
13:38be a demonstration.
13:40You are just saying that there will
13:42be a demonstration.
13:44No, that is not the case.
13:46Our party members
13:48who came to the board
13:50under the name of
13:52Mimran Khan.
13:54I suggest that you read
13:56the social media.
13:58But I would like to say that the punishment for changing a party or reducing the pressure
14:05is not physical safety or getting killed.
14:08No, there is no such thing as physical safety.
14:11There is no such thing as physical safety.
14:13But as far as...
14:14Tell me about Zain Qureshi.
14:15He is the one who is responsible for this.
14:17We heard at the house that four people are sitting inside.
14:20And Zain sahib gave a video message of Zain.
14:24But after the vote was done,
14:26and your senior leaders said that the timing was wrong,
14:30was Zain present at the assembly?
14:34I don't have that knowledge.
14:35I only talk about what is in my factual knowledge.
14:39Was anyone other than these five people present at the National Assembly?
14:42They must have been.
14:43No, no.
14:44If you know this,
14:48people from the assembly,
14:50people from the intelligence,
14:52people from the assembly,
14:54you must also know which four people were in which room.
14:57No, I said this on the floor of the house.
15:00I said this to the speaker twice.
15:02I said, I have indicated the room.
15:05The room on the fourth floor, the speaker's room was there.
15:08I have indicated that.
15:10I have also talked about your live transmission.
15:13I haven't said anything hidden.
15:15I have said it twice.
15:16I have identified them.
15:18I don't know who they are.
15:20The reason for that is that
15:22people from the National Assembly,
15:25people from the intelligence,
15:27came to the assembly.
15:29They were doing security work there.
15:32And they were giving protection to these people
15:34and keeping an eye on others.
15:35This is not just about yesterday,
15:37it is about the day after tomorrow as well.
15:38And this,
15:39and one more thing,
15:40I will go further.
15:41You keep in mind,
15:43Mr. Malik,
15:44Article 7,
15:45tell your producer to come here
15:47and take out the constitution and give it to you.
15:50I will read it out to you.
15:52Tell us.
15:53What is the definition of your state?
15:55The definition of the state is,
15:57the translation is,
15:58your National Assembly and Senate,
16:01Majlis-e-Shura and Federal Government,
16:03your Provincial Assembly,
16:04your Provincial Government,
16:05after that,
16:06those institutions that implement taxes,
16:09all other institutions,
16:11be it intelligence agencies,
16:12be it rangers,
16:13be it police,
16:14be it your armed forces,
16:16they are the instruments of the state.
16:19Here it starts,
16:20that someone here,
16:21against the state institutions,
16:23the state institutions are like this,
16:25that the watchman of this building
16:27comes at night and takes over,
16:29and says that all these things are mine.
16:31This is not possible.
16:33The state institutions are the tools of the state.
16:36The state is the member of the National Assembly.
16:38Tell me one thing,
16:39how do you,
16:40it's a personal question,
16:42and I feel at times,
16:44no one can stop someone for any reason,
16:46like what his father did,
16:47what his son did,
16:48but it is pointed out again and again,
16:50that when you talk about democracy,
16:52your grandfather himself was a dictator,
16:54yesterday he said again and again
16:56that three parties were changed,
16:57now you come and tell us about democracy.
16:59This is a very good thing.
17:00Do you think it was a mistake
17:02to change three parties?
17:03I will just give you an example,
17:05Ayub Khan Sahib was in the uniform,
17:07he was the chief of the army staff,
17:09or the commander in chief,
17:10at that time Sikandar Mirza Sahib,
17:12on October 8, 1958,
17:13Sikandar Mirza Sahib launched a martial law,
17:15and the army took over,
17:17because Sikandar Mirza Sahib
17:19was not turning the table,
17:21but he was going to make changes in the army,
17:23and the army reacted to that,
17:25and after that,
17:26the martial law was introduced.
17:27History also says that
17:28General Sahib forced himself
17:30to become the defense minister.
17:31No, no, that was before,
17:32you read history.
17:33Yes, before,
17:34it was made before.
17:35He invited Ghulam Mohammad Sahib,
17:37he did not invite himself,
17:39he invited Ghulam Mohammad Sahib
17:40when he was having issues,
17:41his health was not good,
17:42Ghulam Mohammad Sahib,
17:43and the second thing is,
17:44when it comes to the party,
17:46I started with Muslim League Kaaf,
17:49I was in Muslim League Noon,
17:51I had the local leadership
17:53of Muslim League Noon,
17:55and I tried to join PTI,
17:58at that time my opponents
18:00came to PTI,
18:01and from there they said
18:03that you cannot come now,
18:05Muslim League Noon came and said
18:07that we want to make adjustments
18:09locally,
18:10we fought,
18:11Alhamdulillah,
18:12we won the election,
18:13we came to the house,
18:14after that the court ruling came,
18:16my mother was not well,
18:18and I did not get the election.
18:20No, one second,
18:21I am completing what you are saying.
18:24Alhamdulillah,
18:26I fought the election every time,
18:29I did not come for charity,
18:31and I had tough elections,
18:33and Alhamdulillah,
18:34our leads have been increasing,
18:36in 2018 I fought for PTI ticket,
18:38this time also I fought for PTI,
18:40I fought the election,
18:41and I fought in the field.
18:43You talked about the deal,
18:44tell me,
18:45what was the deal
18:46between you and Maulana Sahib,
18:47what was the commonality,
18:48you took his political base,
18:50you made him politically
18:52independent from KP,
18:54now you were doing it together,
18:56so what was the deal
18:58between you and Maulana?
19:00You are nemesis of each other.
19:02See, in politics,
19:04being a nemesis,
19:06when the election happens,
19:08then you are also looking
19:10for the next election,
19:11you are also looking
19:12for the interim period,
19:13right now we have
19:14a platform of Tehreek-e-Tahafiz-e-Ayn-e-Pakistan,
19:18in which Mehmood Khan
19:19and Sheikh Zahid Sahib
19:20are leading it,
19:21we are in different parties in it,
19:23Maulana Sahib,
19:24in his parallel track,
19:25we have only one limit,
19:27and that is that
19:28we don't accept this form 47
19:30government,
19:31and the amendments that were made
19:33yesterday were wrong
19:34because of this,
19:35which I elaborated
19:36on the floor of the house,
19:37I explained it there,
19:38it is wrong,
19:39because this government
19:40does not have that mandate.
19:42But tell me one thing,
19:43I will complete what you said,
19:46Maulana Sahib,
19:47and our thing is that
19:48right now we have
19:49parallel tracks,
19:50we can go ahead
19:51and get together,
19:52this is politics,
19:53this is politics.
19:54On what basis
19:55can we get together?
19:56Your movement is running,
19:57there can be 100 things,
19:58our strength,
19:59street strength
20:00is of two people right now,
20:01Maulana Fazlur Rehman
20:02was the head of PDN.
20:03But one thing
20:04has been proven,
20:05Maulana Sahib
20:06has proven one thing
20:07that when all political
20:08parties sit together
20:09and talk,
20:10differences resolve,
20:11give and take happens,
20:1256 item,
20:1327 item
20:14constitutional amendment
20:15is made,
20:16or you can go
20:17and get somewhere,
20:18and when you sit
20:19and we talk to someone
20:20and you say
20:21that we are not
20:22going to talk
20:23to you,
20:24we are not going
20:25to talk to you,
20:26you say that
20:27we don't want
20:28to talk to anyone,
20:29we want to talk
20:30to the soldiers,
20:31and if the soldiers
20:32don't talk to you,
20:33then you go
20:34to a political
20:35wilderness.
20:36Now it seems
20:37that you are Ranjh
20:38who is roaming
20:39in the desert,
20:40roaming alone,
20:41you are not
20:42ready to talk
20:43to Laila,
20:44neither is your Laila.
20:45The political parties
20:46who have worked
20:47together,
20:48they have gotten
20:49what they wanted,
20:50you have not
20:51gotten what they wanted.
20:52Strategically it seems
20:53that you don't have
20:54any strategy,
20:55you say that
20:56time is with us,
20:57these are dialogues,
20:58time is with us,
20:59we have time on our
21:00side,
21:01Americans have
21:02watches,
21:03but we have time
21:04on our side,
21:05what time is with
21:06you, you are
21:07fighting,
21:08you have a
21:09leader,
21:10you cannot
21:11meet him,
21:12it is a
21:13long way to
21:14get rid of him,
21:15legislation
21:16has been
21:17passed against
21:18you,
21:19constitutional
21:20amendments
21:21have been
21:22passed,
21:23judges have
21:24been
21:25passed,
21:26you have
21:27not
21:28met him,
21:29you have
21:30not met
21:31him,
21:32you have
21:33not met
21:34him,
21:35you have
21:36not met
21:37him,
21:38you have
21:39not met
21:40him,
21:41you have
21:42not met
21:43him,
21:44you have
21:45not met
21:46him,
21:47you have
21:48not met
21:49him,
21:50you have
21:51not met
21:52him,
21:53you have
21:54not met
21:55him,
21:56you have
21:57not met
21:58him,
21:59you have
22:00not met
22:01him,
22:02you have
22:03not met
22:04him,
22:05you have
22:06not met
22:07him,
22:08you have
22:09not met
22:10him,
22:11you have
22:12not met
22:13him,
22:14you have
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31:04Constitutional benches have been set up, you can take any decision you want from there.
31:08You can take any decision you want from there.
31:10There are sub-meetings on the judges, they are coming and going.
31:12At the end of the day, everyone knows what is happening, what the result is.
31:15And plus, you are talking about reserve seats.
31:17The PTI will not get the reserve seat.
31:19They will not get it, they will not get it.
31:20Speak with clarity, publicly.
31:21Why do you lie?
31:22Why do you cheat?
31:23Why do you hide behind ambits?
31:25Why?
31:26When I read the last time on the website, you were not the Chief Election Commissioner.
31:31There was another person.
31:32How can you say that he will get it or not?
31:35Although I agree with you, but how can you speak on his behalf?
31:38Look, I am the Chief Election Commissioner.
31:42But what is rightly said, what is not possible, is not possible.
31:46There is analysis as well.
31:47Have you gone mad?
31:48Did you hear yesterday's speech on torture?
31:50The one I explained to you.
31:52A mad person can ask for that torture.
31:56A normal, sensible person cannot listen to nonsense.
31:59Those five people were missing.
32:01They were not five.
32:02They were not five.
32:03It was by far the next amendment.
32:04You see, there are so many people.
32:05Oh, come on.
32:06I told you on your show, note and vote.
32:09Pakistan will never have a problem.
32:11Yes, in fact, they made two predictions.
32:14Listen to them.
32:15I have to ask about the third prediction from the press.
32:18His song is coming, right?
32:20Yes, yes, Maulana is coming.
32:22For the benefit of Pakistan and for the power and democracy.
32:26It is very important that Maulana is with that wheel.
32:29For me, my birthday is on the 21st of October.
32:32I am telling you from history.
32:3421st is the marked date.
32:40Okay, let's ask you a news.
32:42Until yesterday, it was visible that perhaps,
32:45the perception that has been made about Justice Mansoor Ali Shah,
32:49but I thought that maybe he will be nominated as the next Chief Justice.
32:54Then yesterday, when Khawaja Asif heard my speech,
32:56doubts and suspicions began to arise.
32:58It seems difficult.
32:59It seems that there is only one person left behind,
33:01and that is Justice Jaya Afridi.
33:02What is your news?
33:03Can Justice Mansoor Ali Shah be the next Chief Justice?
33:06Look, I have a very clear stance about the courts and their judges.
33:12I respect them.
33:14I do nothing beyond respect.
33:15I do nothing behind it.
33:16I do nothing right or left.
33:18I respect them.
33:19My full stop is here.
33:21The second thing is that you know more about censorship than I do.
33:24Everyone knows about it.
33:25Children know about it.
33:26If we want to spread sensationalism,
33:27if we want to create a sensation,
33:29if we want to do a drama, then it's fine.
33:30We can do it in the morning and evening.
33:31Theatres and dramas have been running for a long time.
33:33I am very clear about what I am saying,
33:35and exactly what I know.
33:36I speak only as much as I know.
33:38I have not said anything wrong anywhere,
33:40nor have I lied.
33:41Now I am standing on my point.
33:42But the drama that is going on,
33:44you have given a clean platform.
33:45Today, Mr. Gaddapur has come.
33:47Today, you gave a speech of Mr. Gaddapur.
33:49He is a traitor.
33:51You should have put a mirror in front of him,
33:52and asked him to look at himself.
33:53Now, I am giving you advice.
33:55This time is gone.
33:56Now, it's just a waste of time.
33:58No, Mr. Mansoor Ali Shah can be a traitor.
34:01Why can't he be a traitor?
34:02I am asking you.
34:03Why can't he be a traitor?
34:04Why can't he be a traitor?
34:05Why not?
34:06Is his name still in consideration?
34:08Look, I am his fan.
34:12You know that he will pull the ground,
34:14he will throw the sky.
34:15I know that.
34:16I also know that.
34:17I am not lying about anything.
34:18But if you ask him in general,
34:19then I will generally tell you that
34:21he is a great judge.
34:23He is a very good judge.
34:24I have also praised him at that time.
34:25I have presented myself in front of Ayesha Malik,
34:27Bandyal, Faiz-e-Ishaan,
34:29Akhwan,
34:31Irfan,
34:33one Supreme Court judge from Karachi.
34:35All are decent people.
34:36There was a big debate on the military courts.
34:38Then it happened that it was removed.
34:40Why is there a debate on so many military courts?
34:42Why?
34:43Has it been decided that Imran Khan's trial
34:46will take place in the military court?
34:48And if it happens, then obviously this issue will arise.
34:50So for that, first make a constitutional amendment
34:52that now with constitutional benches
34:54that work will be done by the government.
34:56Look sir,
34:57the first thing is that
34:59Imran Khan has been punished for his crimes
35:04and he is putting others in trouble.
35:06He is not committing a crime,
35:07everyone is writing it down.
35:08That is why a forward block has to be made.
35:10There is a fight going on about who is going to be the leader.
35:13It has already been chosen.
35:14But still, there is a debate.
35:16If we get it, it will be done.
35:17The one who has been chosen,
35:18is he from Punjab or KP Sher?
35:19I will not tell you everything.
35:21No, just this.
35:22Is he from KP or Punjab?
35:23I won't ask you.
35:24No, no, no.
35:25You are a very smart man.
35:26No, no, no.
35:27You are from a big country.
35:28No, no, no.
35:29You are from Pakistan.
35:30No, no, no.
35:31You have to tell me this much.
35:32You are from Pakistan.
35:33Obviously, he is not from India.
35:34Just tell me, is he from Punjab or KP?
35:35No, no, no.
35:36I will never tell you.
35:37I will not fall into your trap.
35:38Okay, sir.
35:39I will be telling you with clarity.
35:40Okay, first answer me.
35:41Has it been decided to go to the military court?
35:43Okay, sir.
35:44When a military man becomes a court martial,
35:46he will be punished.
35:47He will be punished.
35:48He will tell his things.
35:49He will give statements.
35:50He will give evidence.
35:51For Mr. Imran Khan.
35:52Related to the arrangements.
35:53Related to 9th of May.
35:54Related to other things.
35:55So, you don't understand.
35:56Now, you say that if it is not in the amendment,
35:57then it will be in the next amendment.
35:58If he will be punished, then it will be.
35:59If he is being punished,
36:00then why will he write and tell everything.
36:01Then he will deny.
36:02He will write and tell everything.
36:03If he is getting a deal.
36:04No, no, no, sir.
36:05If he is getting a deal.
36:06The era of deal deal is gone.
36:07It is neither a deal nor a deal.
36:08Let's be very clear.
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