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00:00Today's Our Times
00:02Today's Our Times
00:04Today's Our Times
00:06How many times have you been on Our Times?
00:08It's my second time.
00:10How many times?
00:12It's my first time.
00:14It's my sixth time.
00:16There's no one in our time
00:18who looks at the camera like that.
00:20There's no one.
00:22But let's talk about our time.
00:24You two are in the same year.
00:26You're just 10 years younger.
00:28You're 10 years younger.
00:30It's easy to tell.
00:32At first, Miyake was
00:3410 years older than me
00:36in terms of sports.
00:38You were in a horse racing team.
00:40Yes, that's right.
00:42Miyake told me to buy
00:44a 1996 Japanese derby
00:46that Fusaichi Concordo played.
00:48I was the one who bought
00:50Fusaichi Concordo's horse.
00:52He said,
00:54buy a horse.
00:56He said, buy a horse.
00:58And the derby
01:00was about to start.
01:02Miyake was already
01:04talking about the derby.
01:06He said,
01:08Fusaichi Concordo!
01:10I said,
01:12did you buy it?
01:14That's a good comment.
01:16Did you buy it?
01:18Yes, I did.
01:20I thought, wow, Miyake bought it.
01:22At one point.
01:24It was about time
01:26I woke up.
01:28It's been about 30 years
01:30since I joined the team.
01:32So, for me,
01:34I respect him.
01:36Why are you laughing?
01:38I respect him.
01:40Miyake, you've been doing sports
01:42for a long time.
01:44You woke up 12 and a half years ago.
01:46What was it like?
01:48I was surprised.
01:50But, for me,
01:52I was 20 years old at that time.
01:54I've been doing sports
01:56for 27 years.
01:58I've been doing
02:00most of the things.
02:02I won a gold medal at the Olympics.
02:04I've been doing a lot of sports.
02:06I've been doing a lot of things.
02:08Now,
02:10what should I do in the next 10 years?
02:12That's what I'm thinking.
02:14I don't know if I can continue.
02:16Especially in sports broadcasts,
02:18I'm naturally inferior.
02:20What should I do?
02:22That's what I was thinking.
02:24I thought,
02:26maybe I was given
02:28a great opportunity.
02:30That's what I thought at first.
02:32But, when I think about it later,
02:34there's Mr. Otsuka here.
02:36He's the pillar of the country.
02:38The big signboard show
02:40that Mr. Otsuka has raised.
02:42When I thought about
02:44the weight
02:46that I would carry
02:48in the future,
02:50there was a lot of pressure.
02:52You're going to carry
02:54that pressure from now on.
02:56I really understand that.
02:58You feel it now, don't you?
03:00When Mr. Miyake graduated,
03:02he commented
03:04that he was relieved.
03:06I'm relieved.
03:08I've been under so much pressure
03:10for 12 and a half years.
03:12For the time being,
03:14I can pass it on to Ito
03:16I'm relieved.
03:18When I heard that
03:20Ito was going to be
03:22the main caster
03:24of Mezamashi,
03:26I thought it was good.
03:28Because
03:30he hasn't been blessed
03:32with a job.
03:34There have been so many people
03:36with this much ability
03:38who have only done
03:40this kind of work
03:42in the past few years.
03:44But Ito
03:46hasn't been able to make full use of it.
03:48He's not in a position
03:50that suits Ito's ability.
03:52I've done Ito's sate.
03:54I wrote a lot at that time.
03:56I wrote every time
03:58that I should have
04:00a more important job.
04:02Even if you look at
04:04the announcers all over Japan,
04:06I think I have the ability
04:08to get into the top three.
04:10That's how much Ito's ability
04:12has come to the point
04:14where Ito can finally
04:16show his true ability.
04:18I'm really looking forward to it.
04:20No, no.
04:22You're not being praised.
04:24No, not at all.
04:26If you're praised like this,
04:28you'll get a lot of praise.
04:30In this Mezamashi,
04:32the chief producer
04:34imagines this kind of role,
04:36so I don't know
04:38how much of my ability
04:40will be used.
04:42Even if there are fewer locations,
04:44I was told that I should
04:46look forward to it and
04:48do this kind of role,
04:50so I decided to do my best.
04:52You're the only one
04:54who talks about serious things.
04:56When it comes to this kind of story,
04:58I suddenly shut up.
05:00That's not true.
05:02One thing I think is that
05:04it's hard after Calbee.
05:06There are a lot of things
05:08that I want to do,
05:10but I don't think
05:12there's anyone who wants
05:14the same thing as this.
05:16I've been doing this entertainment corner
05:18for a long time,
05:20and I've been able to
05:22make a name for myself
05:24and get to where I am now.
05:26I'm grateful for that,
05:28but one thing is
05:30how many people
05:32want to do it.
05:34That's the difficulty
05:36I remember well because
05:38I was in the early days,
05:40but anyway,
05:42it was the very first release
05:44to release entertainment
05:46information without
05:48using gossip.
05:50There was no program
05:52to do such an entertainment corner.
05:54The so-called gossip was
05:56the entertainment news.
05:58We decided to stop it.
06:00We decided to focus on
06:02the story of the movie,
06:04and that's how
06:06Mezamashi TV was born.
06:08I'm proud of the fact that
06:10we were able to prove
06:12that the audience came
06:14to see us with
06:16proper entertainment information.
06:18I think it was established
06:20in Otsuka's time
06:22and evolved
06:24in Miyake's time,
06:26but I wonder if the
06:28entertainment corner
06:30will evolve properly in the future.
06:32Stop it!
07:03It was the 30th anniversary
07:05of Mezamashi TV.
07:07There was a festival
07:09for the 30th anniversary last year.
07:11We wanted to see it
07:13until the 30th anniversary.
07:15In terms of Miyake,
07:17how long will you do it?
07:19Or where will it end?
07:21I was told to do
07:23Mezamashi TV when I was 50.
07:25At that time,
07:27I thought it was the last
07:29complaint against Fuji TV.
07:31Until I was told to do it,
07:33I would never quit.
07:35But when the company
07:37told me to quit,
07:39I decided to quit.
07:41If I was told to quit
07:43when I was 53,
07:45I would have been at a disadvantage.
07:47This was decided in my mind
07:49when I first started
07:51Mezamashi TV.
07:53It means that
07:55Miyake and Calbee
07:57had a great sense of fulfillment
07:59when they started Mezamashi TV.
08:01That's right.
08:03Not only the information program,
08:05but also the music program
08:07and the music fair.
08:09If you're over 50,
08:11you can't get a job.
08:13That's right.
08:15I'm glad that
08:17I've been able to get a new job
08:19since I was in my 50s.
08:21I wonder if I can make the same comment
08:2310 years later.
08:25It's completely different.
08:27Even if you have a job,
08:29you're working as a reporter
08:31and you're always asked
08:33what you're doing.
08:35You're always given a completely
08:37different place.
08:39That's where you show
08:41your personality.
08:43That's a completely
08:45new challenge.
08:47I don't think it's the same
08:49as a program.
08:51The program has changed
08:53and evolved over the past 12 and a half years.
08:55You've been in Mezamashi TV
08:57since 1994, right?
08:59Yes, since 1994.
09:01At that time, you weren't in the program.
09:03You only appeared in sports programs.
09:05No, I was only in broadcast programs
09:07and I was on the investigation team.
09:09Were you an Amigo at that time?
09:11No, I was a Checkman at that time.
09:13Checkman?
09:15Why?
09:17I'm sorry to say this,
09:19but at that time,
09:21if you said you were a Checkman,
09:23you weren't an Amigo.
09:25You said you were an Amigo.
09:27When the bubble collapsed
09:29and Japan was losing its energy,
09:31Amigo wasn't a Checkman.
09:33It was Shinodo Akarui.
09:35Akarui is Latin.
09:37You're an Amigo.
09:39I didn't understand this at all.
09:41I was told that I was an Amigo
09:43and I became an Amigo.
09:45Checkman became an Amigo.
09:47That's good.
09:49Amigo is still Amigo.
09:51But Mr. Yagi said he was a Checkman.
09:53He was a Checkman.
09:55But after that,
09:57you had a lot of trouble, didn't you?
09:59At first, I had a lot of trouble.
10:01Basically, the director
10:03made the overall structure.
10:05I felt that the essential part
10:07of making a TV
10:09was in the director.
10:11That's what I felt.
10:13That was really eye-opening.
10:15When I thought that the director
10:17would be interesting,
10:19I heard the story
10:21that I wanted to be a director
10:23from Mori at the same time.
10:25He said he wanted to be a director
10:27so he quit being an announcer.
10:29That was 4 or 5 years ago.
10:31He told me to do my best.
10:33Really?
10:35I didn't hear it at all.
10:39It stopped somewhere.
10:41Really?
10:43I thought it was a waste.
10:45But you can understand
10:47that the director's talent
10:49is very important.
10:51For example,
10:53in the announcement room,
10:55at the farewell party,
10:57when Mr. Ito made
10:59the VTR,
11:01he made a lot of VTRs
11:03for his job.
11:05In that sense,
11:07the director's sense
11:09is the most important.
11:11You also directed
11:13the broadcast of Amigo Ito, didn't you?
11:15Yes, I wrote everything.
11:17I asked a young writer
11:19to join us
11:21and we decided on the story.
11:23I think it would be
11:25interesting enough to watch now.
11:27No, no.
11:29I'm sure it would be interesting
11:31if it was broadcasted at that time.
11:33I watched it while doing sports.
11:35I woke up at that time.
11:37What is this?
11:39Our era is the best.
11:41Can you stop saying that?
11:43I was fired from sports for about 2 years.
11:45What?
11:47I can't enter both
11:49my favorite announcer ranking
11:51and my least favorite announcer ranking.
11:53When you were young,
11:55did you go to Miyazaki Sports
11:57without any trouble?
11:59No, I didn't.
12:01I made a big mistake in the first year.
12:03What did you do?
12:05I was fired from sports for about 2 years.
12:07For a year and a half.
12:09What did you do?
12:11I read a newspaper.
12:13It was live.
12:15I read it at the booth.
12:17Did you provide it?
12:19Yes, I did.
12:21But I made a mistake.
12:23I cut it off.
12:25It was live.
12:27I cut it off.
12:29Miyake-kun said it was okay.
12:31He told me to remove it.
12:33I really wanted to play baseball.
12:35But I couldn't.
12:37I thought
12:39it wasn't a matter of 10 years.
12:41When 10 years passed,
12:43I wanted to make time
12:45so that I could speak
12:47for the Titans.
12:49When 10 years passed,
12:51I wanted to interview
12:53only young players
12:55who could be useful.
12:57Even if I ask a star now,
12:59they won't be there anymore.
13:01It was good that I did it that way.
13:03It was good that I switched.
13:05You wanted to
13:07build a vision for the Titans.
13:0910 years later.
13:11But that rhythm was
13:13a little below me as a generation.
13:15At that time,
13:17there was a dream 10 years later.
13:19There was a 20% sports program.
13:21It was like a baseball broadcast
13:23for the Titans.
13:25There was a goal there.
13:27There is no goal now.
13:29How can I run to
13:31such a prominent place?
13:33There are few things like that now.
13:35I think it will be difficult
13:37for young people.
13:39In our generation,
13:41we were asked by a company
13:43to train young people.
13:45It's amazing.
13:47Of course,
13:49I want them to grow up
13:51and become stars.
13:53But the media itself
13:55is a little down.
13:57It's not like the old days
13:59where you can call
14:01and talk to your aunt at the supermarket.
14:03I think it's difficult
14:05to tell young people
14:07how to be active
14:09on TV.
14:11Basically,
14:13I don't give much advice.
14:15I have to say this,
14:17but I'm not sure
14:19if I want
14:21advice from myself.
14:23I'm not sure
14:25if I want advice from myself.
14:27I'm not sure
14:29if I'm asking for my advice.
14:31I have a lot of seniors
14:33and sports announcers.
14:35A lot of people come to teach me.
14:37But sometimes,
14:39I don't ask for
14:41their advice.
14:43I want to hear
14:45their opinions
14:47about this sport.
14:49I was a person
14:51like that.
14:53I'm not sure
14:55if I should ask
14:57or not.
14:59I don't think
15:01I should give advice.
15:03I'm like you.
15:05I don't have much to say
15:07unless I'm asked.
15:09I'm not sure
15:11if it's good advice.
15:13And then,
15:15Yamasaki comes to me
15:17and says,
15:19everyone says
15:21that I'm scary.
15:23He's really bad.
15:25I don't know
15:27what kind of person he is.
15:29I think that's scary.
15:31That image is
15:33from his practice.
15:35His practice
15:37and skill
15:39are very sharp.
15:41I don't know
15:43what you mean.
15:45Sometimes,
15:47he's not a talent
15:49so it's better to quit.
15:51You're saying that?
15:53You're saying that?
15:55Don't say that!
15:57That's a horrible thing to say to a trainee!
15:59I won't say it!
16:01I always say this when I'm training,
16:03when you lose the desire to become better,
16:05the growth of the announcer stops.
16:07I'm 60 years old now,
16:09but I still feel the same way.
16:11I wonder what I should steal from my seniors.
16:13I go to ask them
16:15what kind of materials
16:17they're organizing
16:19and preparing.
16:21And they're doing amazing things.
16:23I wonder what they're doing.
16:25I wonder what they're doing.
16:27I'm going to steal everything from them.
16:29If I want to be like them,
16:31I'm going to do something
16:33that I can't see you doing.
16:35I'm going to ask them
16:37what they're doing.
16:39And they'll tell me
16:41what they're doing.
16:43They'll tell me.
16:45There's a saying,
16:47the devil is better than the unknown.
16:49I think it's a good idea
16:51I think it's a good idea
16:53for people who are working
16:55on the outside,
16:57whether they're being told
16:59bad things or being told
17:01they're bad.
17:03So I think
17:05every announcer should
17:07be able to express themselves
17:09in a certain way.
17:11When I was young,
17:13I was told
17:15to be an announcer
17:17that 50% of people
17:19liked me.
17:21So I should be able to
17:23rank both the people
17:25who like me and the people
17:27who don't like me.
17:29That's what I'm saying.
17:31You should be able to
17:33rank both people.
17:35But isn't it different
17:37for women and men?
17:39How about that?
17:41I'm a man,
17:43but I think it's hard for women.
17:45It's hard.
17:47I think it's hard for young people
17:49to be recognized as female announcers.
17:51I think it's hard for young people
17:53to be recognized as female announcers.
17:55I think it's hard for young people
17:57to be recognized as female announcers.
17:59In the past,
18:01there were female announcers
18:03who were 30 years younger than you.
18:05If you weren't popular in your 20s,
18:07it would be over.
18:09But now,
18:11like Kiku Nishiyama,
18:13there are female announcers
18:15who think about their lives
18:17for a long time.
18:19But most of the young people
18:21want to be recognized
18:23as soon as possible.
18:25They want to be on a big show
18:27as soon as possible.
18:29How about men?
18:31Are you thinking about it that much now?
18:33I really thought
18:35I wanted to be a director.
18:37I really thought
18:39I wanted to be a director.
18:41I'm a sports announcer
18:43and when I started to make a TV show,
18:45I decided to be an announcer,
18:47and I became more interested
18:49in the show,
18:51so I'm thinking
18:53about sports.
18:55rather than
18:57starting with your stomach.
18:59rather than starting with your stomach.
19:01Rather than starting with your stomach.
19:03I came to SHANIMU and I have now
19:05That's the idea.
19:07I came to SHANIMU and I have now
19:09Kalbe Shinichi before it started.
19:11So you were a bit of an underdog at the time?
19:13In a way, yes.
19:15I did Ohio Nights Day for 9 years.
19:17I did a lot of reporting,
19:19I had my own corner,
19:21I went into the studio at the end,
19:23I did a lot of things,
19:25but I learned the basics of announcement.
19:27For 9 years,
19:29I went to hard places,
19:31and when I was supposed to leave Nights Day,
19:33the TV show Mezamashi started.
19:35I was told that I was too strict,
19:37so especially in Mezamashi,
19:39I had to make the TV show Mezamashi.
19:41I was with Ito at the time,
19:43so I remember that.
19:45So I had to figure out how to make
19:47the entertainment corner more fulfilling.
19:49I couldn't compromise,
19:51so I said,
19:53I'm not going to do this anymore,
19:55but I threw my manuscript many times.
19:57I said, what is this?
19:59This is different.
20:01I put my life on the line
20:03and did the broadcast every day.
20:05At that time, it was going well,
20:07but I don't think it's like that now.
20:09I can't imagine
20:11such a person in such a loose character.
20:13That's why I said,
20:15the panda's eyes are not laughing.
20:17If you look closely,
20:19he has a serious face.
20:23Miyake-san, your children are also social people, right?
20:25Not only social people,
20:27but I have four grandchildren.
20:29Wow.
20:31My grandchild is in elementary school.
20:33He's already in elementary school.
20:35I have a daughter in the third year of high school
20:37and a son in the first year of junior high school.
20:39How old are you now?
20:41I'm in the first year of high school and in the sixth year of elementary school.
20:43Your children will go to college
20:45and become social people.
20:47The responsibility of a parent
20:49ends there, doesn't it?
20:51What kind of feeling is that?
20:53That's what I'm talking about.
20:55I'm going to be free.
20:57I'm going to live with God from now on.
20:59Your wife is a big fan of Mark, right?
21:01That's right.
21:03He likes my live broadcasts the most.
21:07You're glad to hear that, right?
21:09I'm the exact opposite of Miyake-san.
21:11There's no way he's praising me.
21:13It's the same for me.
21:15He seems to be watching.
21:17But he says,
21:19It was a normal program.
21:21That's what he says.
21:23What do you think?
21:25Does your wife support you?
21:27My wife, daughter, and son
21:29don't watch my work.
21:31I see.
21:33I really don't watch it.
21:35But I feel comfortable with it.
21:37You don't watch it?
21:39Your family doesn't watch it at all?
21:41I like that my family
21:43is not interested
21:45in my father's work.
21:47I've come this far,
21:49so I don't want my wife
21:51to praise me.
21:53I really want to be praised.
21:55But when I hear about
21:57the story of
21:59Miyake-san and his wife,
22:01there are a lot of people
22:03who support Miyake-san.
22:05How far do you think you can go?
22:07It's difficult.
22:09Do you think about
22:11how far you can go?
22:13My wife told me
22:15to do this job
22:17and that job.
22:19But the amount of work
22:21hasn't changed.
22:23That's why I'm on Fuji TV.
22:25Don't you think it's free?
22:27Miyake-san, do you think it's free?
22:29Do you think you can
22:31stay on Fuji TV forever?
22:33I'm grateful for
22:35Fuji TV for
22:37giving me a little more
22:39power.
22:41I'm doing my best.
22:43I don't know what I'm going to do.
22:45But when I say thank you,
22:47it's so-called free.
22:49At that time, I'll do something.
22:51Can you make money
22:53for your junior's dream?
22:55For the time being,
22:57let's make a hole in the grass free.
23:01Let's make a hole in the grass.
23:03Have a wonderful day!