S👉 Se inicia una investigación por parte de la Oficina Anticorrupción para determinar si hubo una violación a la ley de ética pública en relación con un escándalo de criptomoneda. La indagatoria busca esclarecer si existe alguna vinculación entre el gobierno y la estafa realizada por empresarios relacionados con la criptomoneda "Libra". Se cuestiona también el papel del presidente en este caso, quien ha sido criticado por sus declaraciones públicas en Twitter.
En su editorial, Luis Novaresio, cuestiona a quién asesoró al presidente en este ámbito y exige una investigación.
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En su editorial, Luis Novaresio, cuestiona a quién asesoró al presidente en este ámbito y exige una investigación.
👉 Seguí en #BuenDíaA24
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00:00The law of public ethics.
00:02I was trying to make a summary of this, I insist, it is a personal opinion that does not compromise my colleagues,
00:10does not compromise this program, nor does it compromise this channel.
00:13This is a personal opinion of whoever is talking about this chronicler who is talking.
00:16But I think that after 48 hours of what has happened, there are things that need to be raised,
00:22that I think some are evident and others deserve investigation.
00:26The evidence is that the president, when he speaks on Twitter, speaks on behalf of the state.
00:30I held it from the first moment and I ratify it.
00:35There is no possible abstraction of thinking that the president can unfold.
00:40I have read out there, people, nothing personal, that I appreciate a lot,
00:44like Deputy Marcela Pagano who says, the president when he speaks on Twitter,
00:48it is a monumental nonsense, the president speaks as head of state.
00:52Both when he does a type of analysis like this,
00:55as when he discredits someone, he does it on behalf of the state.
00:59He is no longer the citizen Javier Milei as he was before.
01:02Then, in this particular case, he alluded to an activity that is essentially based on the tomb,
01:09which is not regulated by the state.
01:13And there, as Lucia Salinas points out very well,
01:16Article 2 of the Public Ethics Law provides that the president cannot make use
01:21neither of the services nor of the facilities for benefits for himself or for others.
01:25It corresponds that a judge, in this case it will be Dr. Maria Servini,
01:29with the Italian prosecutor's office, analyzes,
01:31was there transgression to the Public Ethics Law?
01:34Then, going to the crypto business,
01:37here I want to separate the investors, investors,
01:40who lost money in this tomb, to cry to the church.
01:45This is part of a business that I believe that the vast majority of Argentines are not familiar with,
01:52and that assumes this level of skill for gain and loss.
01:57The question is, in this business of the crypto tomb,
02:03the president of the nation, he said,
02:06I did not internalize, I insist, from the Romans to this part.
02:10The Romans said everything that our legal system knows, everything.
02:14We have perfected it, sophisticated it, but the Roman law did it, and it had two principles.
02:20Ignorance is not an excuse, and no one can claim their own stupidity.
02:26I insist, who advised the president, or did it per se?
02:32In an area in which he has a particular expertise.
02:37He is not an atomic engineer president, he is an economist president.
02:42Finally, the anti-corruption office must investigate.
02:46It is an office that depends on the executive power.
02:50It seems to me that in any case, it is the other two powers that should deal with this.
02:54And the other thing I was trying to express to Antonio Laje,
02:59is that there is no criminal compensation.
03:02In civil law there is compensation.
03:05If I lend Professor Rabanal 100 pesos and he lends me 50,
03:09the debt is compensated and is only 50 pesos.
03:13In criminal law, no.
03:14A guy who has been sentenced to 25 years in prison,
03:20does not attenuate if there is another who commits a robbery.
03:23I say this for the political discussion that is taking place.
03:27If there are beneficiaries, there are beneficiaries.
03:29If there are people who raise their voice and I say, don't you worry a little.
03:33Third, the investigation has to be done the same.
03:36No matter who it is.
03:39Tell me more, Professor.
03:41Well, we have an hour today, more than ever, which is 11 in the morning.
03:45As an essential hour to take into account what is going to happen, Luis, in this.
03:51Why? Because basically the market opens at that time.
03:55And let's see if there is any repercussion or not.
03:58In dollars, in shares, in Argentine bonds.
04:02Something to take into account.
04:03Today is the President's Day.
04:06There is no market in the United States.
04:08It is one of the most famous classic fairs in the United States.
04:13Therefore, you will not have an echo in the markets.
04:16Why do I say this?
04:18Because the impact of this, stronger, was outside.
04:22You just said it in the talk with Antonio.
04:24The impact was outside.
04:25And it happens in a moment, later we will tell you,
04:27in which he is traveling this week, my law, to Washington.
04:31Where there was or will be the expectation of a meeting with Donald Trump.
04:37And where Toto Caputo is traveling to South Africa, to the G20 summit,
04:40that he is going to meet with Cristalina Giorgieva.
04:42So the scenario is complex in that sense.
04:44Joan Zweig is already sitting with us.
04:46Did I say it right?
04:47Perfect, perfect.
04:48You know I'm a fan of the origins of surnames.
04:52Who is an author, writer, disseminator and specialist in emerging technologies and digital culture.
04:57I'm going to talk to Lucia.
04:59Can I ask you to correct us?
05:01Every time we mess up, because I'm going to do it again.
05:05Libra is a meme coin, a shit coin. What is it?
05:10Libra was not presented as a meme coin.
05:13It was not presented as a meme coin.
05:15It was presented under the premise that it had some utility
05:18for small and medium-sized Argentine companies.
05:20Unlike the cryptocurrency of Donald Trump,
05:23a few weeks ago, 20 days ago,
05:25which was presented as a meme coin.
05:27There are three types of cryptocurrencies,
05:29to make it synthetic.
05:31One, the traditional cryptocurrencies.
05:33Bitcoin, Ethereum, cryptocurrencies that we all know, the most popular.
05:36The pioneers that have solid purposes and very consolidated ecosystems.
05:40Secondly, the utility tokens that serve a specific and concrete purpose.
05:46Thirdly, the meme coins.
05:48The meme coins came up with the meme dog, with Doge.
05:52Elon Musk was also very critical of the market manipulation of Dogecoin products.
05:57They do not have a strong and consolidated technological purpose.
06:02This Libra cryptocurrency was not promoted as a meme coin.
06:06This is essential to understand it.
06:08What was the second category?
06:10Theoretically, it is the second category,
06:12but the project was not visible or transparent.
06:17Well, we stay with you and you correct us.
06:19You raise your hand and you correct us.
06:21I don't know how cryptogumans you are.
06:25Between all of us, we are working on it.
06:28Tell me how the investigation comes.
06:30We are going to organize this scenario a little bit, Luis,
06:32which is Monday, Avil Day,
06:34and everything that begins to move in terms of investigation
06:36about this scandal that surrounds this cryptocurrency.
06:40The first thing you have to investigate is the anti-corruption office
06:44led by Javier Melik,
06:46which is what is going to be investigated, as we just said,
06:48a possible violation of the public ethics law.
06:52What is it that seeks to determine this investigation?
06:55We go to the next card.
06:57It has to do with the administrative path of the case
07:02and clarify if there is a link between the government
07:06and the scam produced by these entrepreneurs.
07:10Basically, what is known so far, Luis,
07:13is that there was a meeting in November
07:16between President Javier Melik and the people in charge of Libra.
07:21And what the anti-corruption office is going to look for
07:25is if there can be established some kind of path
07:29that links one action with the other.
07:32I make a point, point and followed.
07:34I met, Joan, the people in charge of this...
07:38I'm afraid to... I look at you and I'm afraid to mess up.
07:41...the website of this scam, of this company that invited Libra.
07:44Yes, there are some people who are responsible
07:48or are associated with a certain degree of responsibility.
07:51First of all, the organizers of an event called Tech Forum
07:55held in October 2024,
07:58where President Javier Melik was one of the speakers
08:01confirmed of that event.
08:03Secondly, there is the company K&P Protocol,
08:07which is a company registered in Panama
08:09in charge of the technical development of this launch.
08:13So, yes, there are some people who are linked.
08:16That's why the initial hypothesis,
08:18which was discussed on Friday afternoon, of hacking,
08:20which was one of the first things that was...
08:22Of course.
08:23...that was debunked.
08:24They hacked the president's account.
08:25It's not the first time.
08:26That was ruled out because in the narrative of the events
08:29between October and February,
08:31there were several people linked to this initiative.
08:34The question I ask you is out of the ordinary, Joan.
08:37Are these characters well seen in the crypto world?
08:40In the crypto world, they don't have a recognized trajectory,
08:43this type of people.
08:45Good. What else do we have, Lucia?
08:47Well, after what comes by administrative means,
08:50which is what corresponds to the government,
08:53we go to criminal justice, we go to Comodoro Pi,
08:56which is where today, at 9.30 in the morning,
08:58through a public ballot box, the draw was made.
09:02More than a record. This is a record, Luis.
09:05Because in less than 48 hours,
09:07100 complaints were filed in Comodoro Pi.
09:10100 complaints basically surrounding the same accusations.
09:15That is, the possible commission of a fraud.
09:19Here you have some of the crimes.
09:21A possible violation of the duties of a public official.
09:25The complaint, the first complaint that was ruled out,
09:28speaks of a mega scam.
09:30It also speaks of a possible illicit association
09:33led by Javier Milley,
09:35because what they are proposing through each of the writings
09:38is that he was not unaware of this,
09:40which ended up being a scam for many people.
09:43But you are at least pulling 6 or 7 crimes.
09:45Incompletion, scam, illicit association,
09:48well, the violation of the law.
09:51There is a bit of everything.
09:53We are in a state of complaint.
09:55Exactly. What needs to be understood
09:57is that what is going to happen now,
09:59the cause already has a judge, who is Maria Servini.
10:02She is going to look at the prosecutor,
10:05who in this case is Eduardo Tayano,
10:07and it will be the prosecutor who determines
10:10if there are elements in all these complaints
10:13that are going to end up accumulating in the same court
10:16to start an investigation.
10:18To sue.
10:19Exactly.
10:20This is what it means to sue the president of the nation.
10:23Suing is a degree of suspicion,
10:25it is not a process,
10:27and it is not to say it is responsible.
10:30It is very good, it is central and obvious,
10:32because she is one of the people who knows best,
10:34to clarify, one thing is to sue, one thing is to sue,
10:37and of course one thing is to condemn.
10:39And between each stage, Luis,
10:41there is an eternity in the terms of Comodoro Pi.
10:44Look, this is one of the texts of the complaint
10:47that opened the way in Comodoro Pi
10:49to accumulate these more than 100 presentations.
10:53A financial asset was promoted without the due guarantees
10:57and using its presidential investment
11:00to generate confidence in the buyers.
11:03This is what opens the door
11:05to the more than 100 complaints that have accumulated.
11:08Now there are legal deadlines
11:11for the prosecutor to determine
11:13whether a criminal investigation is opened or not,
11:16or if he underestimates and considers
11:18that there is no possible crime commission
11:20by President Javier Milet.
11:23Suppose, Joan, that we want with Lucia Salinas
11:27to launch a...
11:30What is it called? It's not a meme, a...
11:33A utility token.
11:34A utility token.
11:35We say, well, with Lucia we launch a coin
11:38because we want to modify the studio
11:40and that there are a series of benefits.
11:42How do we do it?
11:44Technically, it is not so complicated
11:47with a few thousand dollars,
11:49it is less than 10,000 dollars.
11:51You can develop a cryptocurrency
11:53and you can launch it.
11:54We can launch the LUIS COIN if we want.
11:56We all agree that it has a certain value.
11:59Here, the term that was repeated a lot
12:02was this of RACKPOOL.
12:04Basically, to make a simple analogy
12:06that you understand at home.
12:08Let's imagine that we are at a food fair
12:10and there is a hamburger stand.
12:11And that hamburger stand has a lot of posters
12:13promising the best hamburger in the world.
12:15And there are people in line waiting for it
12:17and there are people who promote
12:18as the best hamburger in the world.
12:20So, suddenly, the first buyers
12:22are going to grab the hamburger and go eat it.
12:24We are going to see a very long line.
12:26At one point, the owner of the stand
12:27is going to grab the money,
12:28get up and leave.
12:29That is basically RACKPOOL.
12:31That is RACKPOOL.
12:32That is RACKPOOL.
12:33An analogy for people at home
12:35who can understand it.
12:36Because this is what happened.
12:38Yes, here is a lesson,
12:39the first lesson that this leaves us.
12:41The people who invested in this project
12:43did not invest for the project,
12:44they invested for the credibility
12:46of President Javier Milei.
12:48So, to issue our token,
12:50we would need someone super famous
12:52to generate credibility.
12:54Yes, but there is an issue.
12:56In the Lewis token,
12:58Lewis had 80%.
12:59Between Lewis and Lucia,
13:0188% of the Lewis token was divided.
13:06That is an issue.
13:08That is also an alert that happens
13:09in this type of project.
13:10Usually, this type of project
13:12is reserved between 10% and 15%
13:14for the founding team of the project.
13:17For us two, let's say.
13:18For you two.
13:19So that you do not manipulate the price.
13:20If you have a lot more percentage,
13:22when you leave,
13:23or when you leave,
13:24as they say, leave the hamburger shop.
13:26And for all of us,
13:27you can manipulate
13:28the price variation in some way.
13:31Here, 80% of the circulating
13:34were in the hands of 10 virtual wallets.
13:37Another alert is that at the second zero,
13:40that is, at the zero moment
13:41of the launch of this cryptocurrency,
13:43there were people who put a million dollars,
13:45five hundred thousand dollars,
13:46seven hundred thousand dollars,
13:47two million dollars.
13:48Maybe they were not people,
13:49maybe they were robots.
13:50They were automatic robots
13:51that automatically at the launch,
13:53but without a doubt,
13:54they had previous information.
13:56That's what they call insiders.
13:58This previous information
13:59is something fundamental.
14:00And going back to another question
14:02that was repeated a lot on the weekend.
14:04Did Javier Milei understand
14:05what he was publishing?
14:07Did he make a copy-paste of a message
14:09that someone gave him?
14:10And here are two positions.
14:11First of all,
14:12From the original tweet.
14:13From the original tweet,
14:14from 5 o'clock in the afternoon.
14:15The original tweet of Friday
14:16is 5 o'clock in the afternoon.
14:17Was this a copy-paste
14:19or was it something with intention
14:21that he knew was happening?
14:23Well, there,
14:24excuse me, I'll give you a point.
14:25Precisely what La Casa Rosada says
14:27is that there was no intention,
14:29because at the moment of having intention
14:31is what for justice qualifies as pain,
14:34and which would come
14:35to a complicated situation
14:36criminally for President Javier Milei.
14:39I just want to add
14:40another of the crimes
14:41that are possibly going to be investigated,
14:43which is the fraudulent manipulation
14:45of negotiable values.
14:47Here there is a little gray,
14:49because it is understood
14:51that negotiable values
14:52are those considered
14:54within the law, right?
14:57So there is a gray
14:59regarding what happens
15:01with the crypts.
15:02But what is there,
15:04and what is going to be determined
15:06is if Javier Milei
15:08urged the realization
15:10of transactions or operations
15:12and that his own action
15:14raised the value of these coins
15:16and then ends up generating
15:18this scam for many people.
15:20There is something that Luis raised
15:21in the opening of his editorial
15:22that had to do with
15:23the responsibility of a president
15:25in his social networks
15:26and if this was part
15:27of the private or public.
15:28President Javier Milei
15:30has his private account
15:31in the social network X or Twitter.
15:33And there is also an account
15:34of the presidency's office.
15:36In the United States,
15:37Donald Trump had
15:38or has his account.
15:41He is the official of the state.
15:43But it does not exist.
15:44I know, but you have to start
15:46to delimit in some way,
15:48because it is something new
15:49within all,
15:50it is 10 years,
15:51but it is something new
15:52what social networks are,
15:53delimit when a protagonist
15:54is talking on social networks.
15:56Does he speak in his name
15:57or does he speak in the name
15:58of his investiture?
15:59Without a doubt.
16:00I hold it from day zero.
16:01It is impossible to unfold.
16:03It is impossible for the president
16:04to say,
16:05I'm going to pave the route
16:06114,000 and this will be
16:08as president
16:09and someone else will say,
16:10Carole and such.
16:11There is no doubt.
16:12I mean, Twitter,
16:13which seems to me
16:14that it is a huge responsibility.
16:16Yes.
16:17Do you remember when we told
16:18Alberto Fernández,
16:19take out the phone
16:20that started with this topic?
16:22Well, the president
16:24when he speaks,
16:25he speaks in this way.
16:26I have a question
16:27that has just been raised
16:28and that if we do not know,
16:29with Lucia, with the professor
16:30and with Mumi,
16:31we can find out.
16:32The violation of the law
16:34of public ethics.
16:35Excuse me for the anachronism,
16:37but I went to look for the law.
16:38Yes, yes.
16:39Know me, excuse me,
16:40but it gives me to read the law.
16:42Every so often.
16:43When Article 2,
16:45Incision G says
16:46that the official must abstain
16:48from using the facilities
16:50and services of the State
16:51for private benefit
16:52or for their relatives,
16:53relatives or strangers
16:55to the official function
16:57in order to endorse
16:58or promote
16:59some product,
17:00service or company.
17:02For me,
17:03for me it is very clear.
17:05Can that crime be guilty?
17:07Suppose they do not prove the pain.
17:09I do not know.
17:10I ask you in the air,
17:11because I do not know.
17:12But the crimes can be
17:13for action or omission too.
17:15Well, I tell you,
17:16what is the pain?
17:17I'm going directly
17:18to commit this crime.
17:19What is the guilt?
17:21Negligence,
17:22imprudence.
17:23I see it more on the other side.
17:25I do not know.
17:26I do not know.
17:27If a criminalist helps us,
17:28if they knew the phone,
17:29the level of messages that there are.
17:31Yes, yes.
17:32Very funny.
17:33If a criminalist
17:34who is writing to me
17:35can tell me
17:36if it can be guilty,
17:37if it is a crime,
17:38I appreciate it.
17:39Yes, very well.
17:40It seems to me that the investigation,
17:41especially in the years
17:42that we carry out
17:43the Argentines
17:44investigating corrupt politicians,
17:45because now
17:46they all jump to point out,
17:47but they forget
17:48everything they did before.
17:49It seems to me
17:50that the central issue
17:51of the investigation
17:52is going to be
17:53who benefited
17:54with the president's tweet.
17:55When it is investigated,
17:56it is possible to show
17:57if there was any beneficiary
17:58directly linked
17:59to the president,
18:00everything is over.
18:01It is very difficult
18:02to track
18:03It is difficult.
18:04It is very difficult
18:05to track technically.
18:06How can you do it?
18:07Because a name
18:08and a last name
18:09are not associated
18:10with that transaction.
18:11The wallet is.
18:12The wallet is.
18:13Let's see,
18:14if a deep investigation
18:15can be done,
18:16it can be somehow
18:17understood as a traceability,
18:18which is what technology allows.
18:19I have a question
18:20about what I have read.
18:21I am not.
18:22In journalism
18:23there are two styles.
18:24The assertive,
18:25when one affirms,
18:26and in the chronicle,
18:27the descriptive.
18:28I read there,
18:29I read the comments.
18:30It is launched on a Friday,
18:31when the bags
18:32are full,
18:34knowing that there was
18:35a weekend
18:36and a Monday.
18:37Holiday.
18:38Holiday.
18:39Does that tell you anything?
18:40I don't know if necessarily,
18:41because I think
18:42that the vast majority
18:43of investors
18:44were foreigners
18:45with a back-up schedule.
18:46That is,
18:47East Coast,
18:48the United States,
18:49two hours.
18:50In addition,
18:51the crypto market
18:52opens at 24 hours.
18:53And the crypto market
18:54opens at 24 hours,
18:55which is also another signal.
18:56Because when it was
18:576 or 7 in the afternoon,
18:58yesterday it was 4.
18:59Of course,
19:00an important indicator
19:02that there was a lot of
19:03question about the dollar,
19:04what is going to happen
19:05with the dollar today.
19:06Let's remember that it is
19:07the crypto dollar
19:08that opens at 24 hours
19:09and on the weekend
19:10there was no significant
19:11movement.
19:12But also,
19:13you have to add something,
19:14this is an activity
19:15that has nothing to do
19:16with market regulators.
19:17So,
19:18it's not that you're saying,
19:19hey, what happened
19:20that they could do it here
19:21because the National Commission
19:22of Values did not arrive.
19:23No,
19:24the Commission of Values
19:25has nothing to do
19:26with the crypto market.
19:27No,
19:28the Commission of Values
19:29has nothing to do