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00:00I don't know if you heard me earlier.
00:01I said, I think it's going to be hard for US
00:03to beat Canada twice.
00:05I think they're extremely skilled and speedy.
00:08And I think the US has, you know,
00:11certainly depth and physicality in my mind and edge there,
00:15but they beat them in a great game.
00:17I thought Saturday was a great event.
00:20I thought it was a great game.
00:21It was intense.
00:23It was fantastic.
00:25But there's something wrong with this tournament,
00:27honestly, that it's already been determined who's playing.
00:32I think you're right.
00:32You just said something to me that made a lot of sense.
00:35What was that?
00:36That is, and I understand people bought tickets already
00:39for like US fans bought tickets for tonight,
00:42but it is a holiday nevertheless.
00:45They should have had, they should have reversed the games.
00:48Like, you know what I mean?
00:49Like if Sweden and the USA would have played first today,
00:53Sweden still would have tried to win
00:55because they didn't know the outcome of this game.
00:58They basically rendered tonight's game meaningless,
00:59long story short.
01:01And all they had to do was flip the games.
01:02And then suddenly the game would have been meaningless
01:05because Sweden doesn't know what's going to happen
01:06in this game.
01:07Now they do.
01:08Now Sweden are like, we don't have a hope in hell.
01:10And the US has already booked their ticket.
01:12Tonight's game means nothing.
01:13All you have to do is flip it.
01:15Now it's easy to say too, maybe play them at the same times
01:18or like, you know, hour, you know,
01:20right after each other in different cities.
01:22Like you said, it is what it is.
01:23It's the format.
01:24There's only four teams, Scott.
01:26So there's only so much they could really do.
01:28I think that's where they dropped the ball here.
01:30Like how the hell the Czech Republic not here?
01:32All right, you want to, and at some point guys,
01:34like really, are we going to keep Russia
01:36out of every international tournament
01:38for the rest of history?
01:39Are we really going to start getting into
01:40which countries are at war and what they do politically?
01:43Yeah, you know what I mean?
01:45So I guess so, right?
01:47So you don't say, but like,
01:48there's a ton of Czechs in the NHL.
01:50Like how the hell the Czechs not here?
01:51Germany, Leon Dreisaddle.
01:53Germans are good at hockey now.
01:54Like how are they?
01:55Like, you know, in 2028, they're going to have a world cup
01:58and they announced already.
02:00Like, so it won't be this, it won't be the four nations.
02:02And like next year, it's the Olympics.
02:04Then in 2028, every,
02:06like they're going to be in the Olympics all the time
02:08from here on out for the next three Olympics.
02:10I think they agreed to,
02:11but every other second year, Scott,
02:13they're going to have a world cup now
02:15instead of the four nations.
02:16It'll be eight countries.
02:18It'll be eight countries.
02:20What did you think of the game Saturday?
02:23Oh, it was epic.
02:25It was, I think that was the best moment in hockey
02:28in modern history, Scott.
02:29I think it, and to me,
02:30I think that was the biggest moment in US hockey
02:32since Wayne Gretzky was traded to the Kings.
02:34And going back, games like Saturday Night Brawl
02:38were going to inspire generations of kids,
02:41like the Miracle on Ice team did, right?
02:43Going into hostile territory,
02:45getting booed and beating Canada.
02:48You see the numbers on ABC.
02:49Remember we spoke last week, Scott,
02:51you asked me what do I think the numbers would be
02:52for the Sweden-Canada game in the US?
02:55I said, probably not great.
02:56I wasn't expecting great numbers.
02:58Dude, it was on TNT
03:00and I got like 1.4 million people watching, right?
03:04USA, the numbers have been great.
03:06And on Saturday night, guys, it was on ABC.
03:09Nearly 5 million people, guys.
03:124.7 million people.
03:14That's like big numbers.
03:15That's like World Series numbers, Scott.
03:18That's like smoke the NBA numbers type,
03:21like massive sporting event.
03:23You get 5 million people in today's day and age, man.
03:25That's big time.
03:27And they got it, all right?
03:28It's too bad.
03:29I don't know.
03:30People say, oh, now on Thursday, how big it's going to be.
03:32I think you caught lightning in a bottle on Saturday night.
03:35You know what I mean?
03:36There's not going to be three fights
03:37in the first nine seconds on Thursday
03:39because it's a championship game.
03:41You're never going to see what you saw the other night.
03:43Like in the Olympics, they're not going to fight.
03:45You'll get kicked out.
03:46See Olympics, you can't have hockey brawls in the Olympics.
03:48Like you literally, they'll put you aside.
03:51You're out of the game.
03:52I like hockey fights.
03:54Yeah, I'm with Don Cherry on that one.
03:56What did he say?
03:57Something about, I thought you sweethearts
03:58didn't want fighting in hockey,
04:00but I thought the three fights set the tone for the night.
04:04Oh, it was awesome.
04:06And how about Kachuk too?
04:08He's one of those guys, he's hard to like,
04:09but if he's on your team, you know what I mean?
04:11You want him on your team, both of them, right?
04:13Just like his father, Keith, but Matthew's better than Keith.
04:17Like he's more well-rounded.
04:19Think of the run, Scott.
04:20Matthew Kachuk went to the Stanley Cup Finals and lost,
04:23made it back to the Stanley Cup Finals and won,
04:27and they won because of him.
04:29Let's be real.
04:30Like, yeah, I know Barkoff's great and stuff.
04:31Like Matthew Kachuk is a great hockey.
04:33Like he's really, to me,
04:35this is like the Kachuk sort of show here,
04:37where he's showing people
04:39he's one of the best players in the world, just point blank.
04:41And if you pull this off, if you win the Stanley Cup
04:44and the Four Nations and back-to-back years,
04:47that's a pretty nice little run that he's put together here.
04:50But you said it, Scott.
04:51I don't know if you know Gary Lawless at all,
04:52if you've ever had him on or you crossed paths
04:54over the years.
04:55Yeah, a big, bald guy.
04:57Used to cover the Winnipeg Jets, but he moved to Vegas.
05:00He's been covering the Vegas Golden Knights for years now.
05:02And he tweeted something, Scott,
05:04before the game on Saturday, and I reposted it.
05:07And I said, remember this, everybody.
05:09And Gary Lawless was at the game on Saturday,
05:12and he said, just spoke to a really smart hockey person
05:15who told me whoever wins tonight will lose on Thursday.
05:20That's what someone in hockey told.
05:22And he said, no way, these teams aren't beating each other
05:26two times in a row.
05:27So it sort of sucked, like that gut punch,
05:30and it was a gut punch to lose to the US on Saturday.
05:33It was for Team Canada, but bro, look at them now.
05:36This is the best they've played.
05:38Cooper said yesterday during breakfast
05:40that he was almost scared how intense they were.
05:43He goes, they'll be fine.
05:44He goes, there was a quiet confidence yesterday
05:46during the breakfast.
05:48And he goes, they're ready to go.
05:50Like they, sometimes losing, Scott, you know it.
05:52It's a wake-up call some teams need.
05:54They were woken up, they're ready to go.
05:56And if I was the US, I wouldn't be too happy
05:58I have to play Canada again on Thursday to be honest.