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00:00Because I think Mr. Karthik Subbaraj, I remember him mentioning specifically in several interviews,
00:06I think, that I hate narrations.
00:08And if somebody asks me, I just share my script with them and request them to kindly read
00:12it if possible.
00:14But I mean, if Mr. Sivakarthikeyan is appreciating your acting, then I'm assuming you're doing
00:18a great job of it.
00:19No, every time they expect that, I mean, you know, for them, it's the only time that they
00:24can actually listen to a story, they'll have to visualize, they'll have to make some judgment
00:29and they'll have to, you know, sometimes they'll say, I'll tell you in two days, I'll tell
00:33you in a week.
00:35So it has to, how do I say, it has to linger on to them.
00:39Do you feel sometimes like you know the power of a specific moment, but even when you're
00:44performing, you're like, okay, it's not quite coming through in my performance, but please
00:47trust the moment.
00:48Don't forget my performance.
00:49No, I'll have to forget.
00:50No, whenever I've narrated, I forget the result, because the process takes over, because narration
00:54takes over.
00:55Yeah.
00:57Today, more than ever, there are several forces judging the overall health of the industry
01:06from various parameters.
01:07If it was someone like me, we, I mean, I just care about, okay, as an individual, how does
01:12it affect me?
01:13Am I moved?
01:16What sort of judgments is it passing about society, everything, all of that, right?
01:20But there are also other people who will compare it with other industries and they're like,
01:24okay, where is our thousand crore film?
01:26Where is this?
01:27That industry has done this, we haven't done this.
01:30What do you see as defining the health of our film industry overall?
01:36What makes you the happiest?
01:40This is a question that keeps coming repeatedly in different forums, I think, these days.
01:44It's because the makers, the fans, and the stakeholders, the main people who are involved
01:53in this, all of them have started advertising about the numbers.
01:58And all of them have started speaking about the numbers.
02:00Now, that has become like a yardstick for us to measure the kind of success that a film
02:06has had.
02:07It is okay, good in a way, but in the process, we might lose some gems that will come out.
02:17Some of the films that we mentioned as being inspirations, I don't know if they will
02:22Yes, so they'll stand different.
02:26I mean, they'll stand beyond time, they are timeless.
02:29So such gems we might miss if we go too much after these numbers.
02:37I noticed a lot of promotions about Amaran also, with respect to numbers saying, hey,
02:41Amaran has collected this much, Amaran has collected that much, you're saying it doesn't.
02:45Do you feel like as a filmmaker, it's also burdening you with again delivering something
02:50like that next?
02:51No, not like that.
02:52But the number was not always in the picture in my mind before making the film, while writing
02:57the script, while shooting for it, we all wanted to be a successful film, all of us,
03:01any film that you are part of, you want it to be a successful film, but not numbers wise.
03:06But these days, I think people are towards numbers also.
03:10I mean, they'll want these many crores, 300 crores, 400 crores, 500 crores, 1000.
03:17It happens, it can happen when there is a combination sometimes, when it is a large
03:24scale film, and when it is going to cater to a large set of audience, like when it is
03:30beyond regions, when your content is very universal, it can happen naturally, organically.
03:36Now for Amaran, we didn't have a very multi-star kind of a casting.
03:42It was to the point, I mean, the hero is Shiva Karthikeyan, the heroine is Sai Pallavi,
03:47and other people are all there, they are there, and of course, Rahul Bhosla is there, otherwise,
03:53it is like, at least for Tamil, most of the faces are new, so they are not multi-stars,
03:59I mean, it's not a packaged film, it is just the emotion, the content, but it is appealing
04:04universally because of the emotion, so it has worked favourable when it came to numbers.
04:10Yes, that happened, now is that a chase for you?
04:13Now do you find financials coming to you, and I know you have been having conversations
04:18for a few months now, now do they tell you, okay, you know what, your previous film did
04:23this, we must start from there, hopefully we will do more.
04:27So far, no, so far no, but there have been a lot of people from all regions, from Bombay,
04:34from Bangalore, from, I mean, Kannada, Hindi, Telugu, Tamil, all have called and appreciated
04:41for the film, and they have been very kind, and they have never quoted about the numbers,
04:47but they have wanted to make films, good films, that's what they say, so, but this is there,
04:53this is there in the, this is there in the market, yes.
05:04No, no, not at all, not at all, it's a good thing only, no, so even if there is another
05:08film or three, four more films to collect this number, or even better, then it is good,
05:13but that shouldn't be the yardstick, I think, if we start running after that, it will be
05:20difficult, then the content won't evolve.
05:25Lovely, I mean, I think I speak for everyone when saying, well, I hope you remain that
05:29way, and maybe as a last question, before we, do we throw this to the audience?
05:37We can do that, I suppose, maybe take a few questions from them, but as a last question
05:40to you, do you want to tell us something about your, the Dhanush film is now confirmed, is
05:46it, Mr. Rajkumar?
05:48Yes, it is, yes, yes.
05:50Do you want to tell us something about that film before we throw it open to the audience?
05:58Go for it, I am not pressurizing you to reveal anything, I mean, you share with us whatever
06:03you can, you are allowed to.
06:07This project, when it comes to the lead actor of the film, that is more exciting for me,
06:12because the kind of performer that he is, I am looking forward to that, and the film
06:17story itself will offer something for his, for his performing skills, so that way I am
06:23excited about it.
06:24Was it done tailored for him specifically?
06:26No, no, not really, not really, but he is, he gave that liberty to choose any script
06:35for him, and when I went and met him, I did not have any idea, I mean, I did not have
06:42any script idea, but then after meeting him, he gave me this comfort where I can come up
06:48with any script that I feel would be appealing for him.
06:50He did not give me any parameters, like I would like to see myself this way, I would
06:54like to play this role, I will not play this role, so there were no, I mean, conditions
06:59set before.
07:00So the second meeting when I went to him, I went with two ideas, and he liked both,
07:06and we have confirmed on one, and on that I have been working now.
07:11That will again be based on a real incident, yeah.
07:18No, I will not ask you which incident.
07:22Now I think we are ready to take a question or two from the audience.
07:27Is that okay, Hema?
07:28We can do that.
07:39Hello, sir.
07:40Hello.
07:40My question is that, do you think subtitles gives out the actual emotions of a movie,
07:46and do you think while writing dialogues and everything, do you think of subtitles as it
07:51is more important to get?
08:02Does it give the actual emotion, like I know Tamil, so when I see Amaranth, I can get to
08:08it, but someone who does not know Tamil, they are going to read the subtitles, so how does
08:13it connect to them emotionally, do you think about that?
08:19Again, there is a technician in the film, if you notice the credits, there is a team
08:27that is working for subtitles, just like how camera is there, edit is there, there is a
08:32department that takes care of the subtitles, so we will have to engage a good subtitlist,
08:38just to make sure that our dialogues are not lost in translation, we will have to engage
08:44a good subtitlist.
08:45For our film, there was a very good subtitlist called Rakesh, she has a big team and a lot
08:53of youngsters are there, so they take care of it, they do subtitling not just for English,
08:58sometimes we will have to do it in Arabic, we will have to do it in other languages as
09:02well, so they take care of it, we have to trust them, we have to find the best people
09:07and we will have to give them that work.
09:10Sir, very good evening.
09:12Here, very good evening.
09:14The film was also screened to various army personnel and departments and their families,
09:20can you share any heart touching moment from their reaction, which is so far not shared
09:26or come to the media or public domain, thank you.
09:31Including the defence minister also, I think, thank you.
09:35There are many such things, suddenly it has to come to my mind, that is the only thing.
09:41Yeah, we had one screening even before the release of the film in Delhi for service personnel
09:52and their families.
09:54So, there was one senior person, an officer who is retired from the army, he must be 60
10:01or 55 now, so he came to me, he held on to my hand throughout the evening, so he finally
10:10told me, I mean, he was next to me, there were other people greeting me, finally he
10:15told me he is the person who actually formed that 44RR initially, even before Colonel Dabas.
10:22So, he was one of the first few commanding officers who actually nurtured that battalion
10:29and he has nurtured a lot of soldiers, those, I mean, urban warfare.
10:35So, that urban warfare, they have a separate induction training, pre-induction training,
10:41even if they are trained army officers.
10:43So, they are supposed to tell them, they are supposed to prepare them for the risk that
10:48it involves.
11:04So, apart from the physical, gruelling sessions,
11:11So, apart from the physical, gruelling sessions,
11:13So, apart from the physical, gruelling sessions,
11:15So, apart from the physical, gruelling sessions,
11:17So, apart from the physical, gruelling sessions,
11:19So, apart from the physical, gruelling sessions,
11:21So, apart from the physical, gruelling sessions,
11:23So, apart from the physical, gruelling sessions,
11:25So, apart from the physical, gruelling sessions,
11:27So, apart from the physical, gruelling sessions,
11:29So, apart from the physical, gruelling sessions,
11:31So, apart from the physical, gruelling sessions,
11:33I met 2 mothers of 2 soldiers who were martyred,
11:38I met 2 mothers of 2 soldiers who were martyred,
11:40I met 2 mothers of 2 soldiers who were martyred,
11:49I have met families of 2 martyred soldiers,
11:56their sons have been killed,
11:59They lost their lives in Kargil.
12:04So they were very, yeah, they were very,
12:08I mean, most of them, they don't speak.
12:11Sometimes they hug me.
12:14Sometimes they just hold your hands, and they don't leave.
12:19So such times it takes it.
12:20It happens most of the times in places like airport,
12:23or most of the times this has happened to me in airport.
12:26And mostly it's always been in places like Bombay or Delhi.
12:33And so they take it very personal.
12:37And all of us, I think, all of us,
12:40we have one uncle or one brother,
12:43one cousin who's in the army.
12:45And many army officers, jawans, they even
12:49texted me on Instagram.
12:51Sometimes they found my number on WhatsApp.
12:53They'll text me, and they'll say, thank you.
12:56You've made our families realize what we go through here,
13:00so that we don't have to explain ourselves.
13:05So that way, it is very heart-touching.
13:08Good evening, sir.
13:09This side.
13:11Hi, good evening.
13:12Yes, sir.
13:12This is not something I'm trying to talk at you or anything.
13:15The two controversies around this film, one,
13:19the upper caste hero has been portrayed not in a way,
13:25what has been real.
13:26But the other thing is, you have portrayed,
13:29this is not, again, I really like the film,
13:31but I want you to speak more about that.
13:35Because a lot of Muslims felt that you
13:38were portrayed in a very darker side of Kashmir.
13:42In fact, myself and another friend of mine
13:45who's sitting here, we met a few people from traders
13:49and other travel agents from Kashmir.
13:51They felt you have portrayed Kashmir in a darker side.
13:56I mean, of course, most of the Indian films
13:59are Tamil films, for that matter.
14:01So can you, see, if you don't want to answer, I'm fine.
14:04No, no, it's not like that.
14:05Since you have questioned, I should answer.
14:08Two questions, sorry.
14:10So the first question, sir, I'll tell you this.
14:13As we are speaking today, four years back,
14:18I started writing the script.
14:21So while writing the script, I mean,
14:24I'll answer this question in a different way.
14:26Because you gave me a very comfortable line
14:28in that question itself, saying upper caste.
14:31See, sir, while writing this film,
14:33even after releasing this film, only after these issues came,
14:37I firstly realized, oh, people see the film in this way too.
14:41This is first.
14:43Initially, I'll tell you, while writing a film,
14:46I have answered, I mean, I have made a statement
14:49in one of the stages, I think, during the success
14:51meet of the film.
14:53When I went to this house, Major Mukund sir's house,
14:58I don't know if you would believe me.
15:01I didn't want to even understand what caste or community they
15:05come from.
15:07And that is not the priority of the characterization
15:13that I'm doing.
15:13See, because I think these differ from mindsets
15:18to mindset.
15:18I mean, again, it differs from individual to individual.
15:21In my mindset, I didn't even analyze it.
15:24And I didn't know that it would become such a big uproar
15:28post-release.
15:29Because, see, for me, on a broader perspective,
15:33when I go to school, basically we know.
15:35I know who is a Muslim.
15:36I know who is a Hindu.
15:37I know who is a Christian in my classroom,
15:40in my college as well.
15:41Same way, I saw Major Mukund as Hindu,
15:45and Indu Revaka Varghese as a Christian.
15:47And people said, why is she wearing a cross everywhere?
15:49See, we are nowhere saying.
15:52I thought it's a good thing that we are showing interfaith
15:55marriage in the film.
15:56Major Mukund has done this.
15:58Hindu-Christian marriage, oh, this is nice.
15:59Let us show this.
16:01This is what I thought.
16:02It comes from a very pure place.
16:04But later, when they wanted certain, you know, maybe,
16:10I'm even trying to empathize with them.
16:13If I try to empathize with them, I
16:15would think it is not against me.
16:17It is not against this particular film.
16:19Maybe they have been wounded in the past,
16:22on purpose, through some films, which spoke ill about,
16:27or which made their appearance or their rituals
16:32in a very sarcastic pattern.
16:34So they wanted some sort of answer
16:38for that through this film, maybe.
16:40They came out looking for that in the film.
16:42But seriously speaking, I never saw that.
16:45Even now, I don't regret that decision at all.
16:47Because see, tomorrow, I'm making a film
16:49on a chief minister, let's assume,
16:51on a former chief minister, or on a national leader,
16:55or a freedom fighter.
16:57I think the last thing, I'll never see what his caste is.
17:03It is basically my mindset, that's all.
17:06So I didn't think this is the most essential part that
17:08has to be highlighted.
17:10And it is not erased, or it is not taken away
17:15from the character.
17:16That is always there.
17:17The name is there.
17:18The father's name is there.
17:19The mother's name is there.
17:20And there are certain elements to show that they are,
17:24they belong to a certain religion.
17:26I thought that itself is an identity.
17:28So beyond that, if we want details for that,
17:32see, for an army thing, it was fascinating,
17:35and it is all required.
17:36So we had to show those rituals.
17:39But here, I thought, this wasn't a criteria for us to fill.
17:43So I was always thinking, there is interfaith.
17:46The film is talking about good things.
17:49The film is talking about two different states.
17:52The girl is from Kerala.
17:54The guy is from Tamil Nadu.
17:56The girl is a Christian.
17:57The guy is a Hindu.
17:58The parents have accepted.
18:00Both the families have accepted.
18:03And they are living a happy life.
18:05So I thought that itself was a big thing.
18:07So there was no intentional hiding something or anything.
18:13So that is the first.
18:14Firstly, I was very surprised when this was coming.
18:18I mean, it was not done intentionally.
18:20And only after that, I even learned that, OK,
18:24certain people, they feel this way.
18:28And maybe what I can do is I can take this
18:33as a learning from this film.
18:35But still, I don't regret it at all.
18:36It has no way touched me.
18:38I mean, that's a very kind, layered response
18:41to a not-so-easy question, I think.
18:44And so your second question, sir.
18:46So second question, so you go to Iran, or you go to Israel,
18:51you go to other countries, or you go to Dubai,
18:57the land itself comes with a certain ethnicity.
19:01You come to Tamil Nadu, it's a secular state, yes.
19:05But there are certain places where
19:09people of particular faith, only they live in large.
19:12At least, that is the majority.
19:14Or sometimes, that is the 100% population.
19:17And we are making a film with that land as the backdrop.
19:21And it is a real story.
19:22I can't name, or I cannot.
19:26And nowhere we showed them as praying to a certain faith,
19:31or it's just the names.
19:33And it is evident there.
19:34And so it becomes unavoidable.
19:36So then the question should be, do you make this?
19:40What is the necessity to make such a film
19:42at this kind of a time?
19:45You know, that should be the question then.
19:47We should not be asking, why did you show this person as that?
19:51I mean, it is not in our hands.
19:55Then the debate should be about, firstly,
19:58do you want to make this kind of a film
20:00where the army is there.
20:03They're fighting against a certain kind of a proxy war.
20:07And the side on the other side, people
20:11on the other side who are facing the army,
20:13who are fighting with the army, they
20:15belong to a certain faith.
20:17Do you want to make such a film?
20:18That should be the debate then.
20:20So what would your answer be to that?
20:22No, I think we can make, one day I
20:26can answer to that question with another film made
20:29from the other perspective.
20:34Hi, sir.
20:36Sir, hi, sir.
20:37Yes, hi.
20:38So it's a pretty dumb question.
20:41So when you have a Kapalakasan, why
20:47did you go for Sivakarthikeyan?
20:49OK, I'll share something which Kamal sir told me very
20:56personally when I told this idea to him way back.
21:00I mean, this is in 2019.
21:03At that time, he was not even the producer.
21:05But I had shared the idea with him.
21:07So sir was very emotional on knowing this.
21:10And he said, if I was 30, I would have done this.
21:17So today, you go and find a new actor who will be the next,
21:23I mean, who will look like a, I mean,
21:27if you had seen the film, Mukund had a nickname, Maddy.
21:30So where are the features of Maddy?
21:32Go find somebody like that.
21:34Maybe this film can make a star.
21:37So if I was 30, I would have done this film,
21:40is what he said.
21:42But since sir cannot fit into, I mean,
21:45it requires a lot of other things also.
21:50So he comes with this image of who he is.
21:54So people will obviously think it's a forced cast.
21:58Yeah.
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24:11In that role, we had certain workshops before the start of the film.
24:17He had a tutor for acting.
24:20His name is Atul Mongia from Bombay.
24:23And he has trained many actors.
24:26So I had known him personally because of working in Bombay before.
24:30It was ADR at that time.
24:32So I know these experts.
24:34So I thought we should put him under this kind of...
24:39It prepares an actor to unlearn and learn new things.
24:58You are asking a question.
25:00Sir asked a question.
25:02If I had to answer, I would have said it angrily.
25:06If I had to answer angrily, I would have said it angrily.
25:09We speak normally for that too.
25:11This is true, right?
25:13In films, we speak loudly and react animatedly.
25:16That is also there.
25:18Everything is there.
25:20But where is the need for that?
25:22We won't be like that all the time.
25:24So it took some time to understand this subtlety.
25:26These kinds of workshops helped with that subtlety.
25:37To go through such workshops.
25:39He stayed in Bombay for 13-14 days.
25:41And we even had 3-4 other actors.
25:44The actors who played Altaf, Baba, Asif, Vani.
25:47The Kashmiri character called Waheed.
25:49He played that character.
25:51So all of them had to do workshops together.
25:54I think I should add something.
25:57One of the worries when you cast a well-known star in such a role is
26:04On one hand, there is expectation.
26:06On the other hand, will I buy that character's innocence?
26:08Or am I looking at that character through the prism of this person's stardom?
26:13But what really worked for me in Amaranth specifically was
26:17those small moments where
26:20that genuine sense of joy when he graduates, right?
26:24That is very unusual when a star plays such a moment.
26:27Because you are like, okay.
26:29Will he understand the joy of just graduation?
26:33I would say, this pressure I never had.
26:36I always think this way.
26:38You take an actor.
26:40You surprise the audience. You surprise the actor also.
26:44Then the rewards are definitely going to come.
26:47Then it is going to be an important film in that person's...
26:51So that way I think it is another approach to look at.
26:54That is what happened to me with both these actors.
26:57I hope it continues.
27:03Razvi, I am just going to continue on the second question that he asked.
27:07I just wanted to compliment you on your answer.
27:09It was very good.
27:11From my side, I would like to tell the other perspective of it.
27:15My wife loved your film so much.
27:17We watched it on the first day.
27:19Our family, everybody liked that film.
27:22From my name, you might have understood that I am practicing Islam.
27:26And my relatives are all Islamists, right?
27:29So they loved your film.
27:33The perspective on a general note is that they liked your film.
27:37Because nobody goes deep into the topic of why they are like that and all.
27:44They just see that as entertainment.
27:47But from the same perspective, when I watched that film in theatre,
27:51I, being an aspiring filmmaker myself,
27:54I found discomfort in a lot of scenes.
27:57With respect to the way it was portrayed.
27:59But I kind of understand why it was that way.
28:02I didn't hate that film at all.
28:05But I felt discomfort for sure in certain scenes.
28:10Because the crowd was cheering certain scenes with certain emotions.
28:15See, your perspective is great.
28:19Your answers were great.
28:21I really respect you for that.
28:23And the film is also on a very positive note.
28:26I fully respect that.
28:28But on a broader note, from a general public kind of perspective,
28:33it did cause discomfort at certain things.
28:37I just wanted to convey that.
28:38But I really liked that film.
28:40I just wanted to appreciate you on your response also.
28:43And everything was good.
28:44I just wanted to convey that.
28:46I didn't get your name, sir.
28:47You said your name.
28:48Razvi.
28:49Razvi. Thank you, Razvi.
28:50Now I take that as a learning again.
28:52I'll be even more cautious when I make more films.
28:56Thank you. Thank you for you.
29:00Harik, that's it.
29:02Thank you so much for all the time you've given us both.
29:05And the many insightful questions you asked, Mr. Rajkumar.
29:08Thank you so much.
29:09Thank you all. Thank you so much.
29:11Thank you, Rajkumar sir.
29:12Thank you, Sudhir sir.
29:13What a lovely, insightful conversation.
29:15Wonderfully moderated.
29:17Thank you so much again.