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00:00Last night, in Avellaneda,
00:02these images came from there.
00:04Because of the fire of a deposit with books,
00:08this generated a commotion in the area,
00:11and also that many people decided to self-evacuate,
00:14and others that, as a consequence of what the authorities recommended,
00:18left their apartments.
00:20Because there is a housing complex,
00:23for you to notice, this is close to the Pueyrredón Bridge,
00:27close to the Boca del Sur area,
00:30in the city of Buenos Aires.
00:32We are working here, because although the firefighters worked
00:35and controlled the situation,
00:37we are looking for the origin,
00:39what was the reason for which that deposit began to be set on fire.
00:43We are in the place, working with Fabián Rubino.
00:47Fabián, good morning.
00:51Eduardo, good morning.
00:52What is the feeling of an attack?
00:54Smooth and flat.
00:56To get here, what you are seeing,
00:58is the structure of a three-story building,
01:01where a library articles deposit functioned.
01:06You see that you are seeing many leaves,
01:08a lot of white, well,
01:10library, school articles,
01:12which yesterday began to burn,
01:15and now, after extinguishing it,
01:17it is proceeding to the cooling of this structure.
01:21But it is the large amount of smoke that is coming out,
01:24which makes, for example,
01:26if we turn our camera to the left,
01:29the wind is taking the smoke to the area of the Mitre Avenue,
01:34because it is also the area of the city of Buenos Aires.
01:38In that place, it is practically impossible to pass
01:43by the smoke, by the smell and by the toxicity
01:46that this type of smoke brings you.
01:49Look how it snows.
01:51The towers that are next to the Pueyrredón Bridge
01:55were evicted,
01:57and now, slowly,
01:59its occupants are returning.
02:02But, obviously, Eduardo,
02:04the smoke makes this area breathless,
02:08because when you add water,
02:11the one that was there during the dawn,
02:14what is left is only, fortunately, smoke.
02:17There is no fire.
02:19But look how it comes out,
02:21from the inside,
02:23those smoke canals
02:26that are coming out uncontrollably,
02:29obviously polluting all the air
02:31and the people who live in the surroundings.
02:34There are people who have not yet returned,
02:36allow me, Fabi,
02:37who have not returned to their apartment,
02:39logically, to their home.
02:41What is their situation?
02:43What do you know about the origin of the fire?
02:48You said that there is a chance
02:50that this was an attack?
02:55No, no, no.
02:56I tell you, the images give the feeling
02:59of an attack.
03:01You noticed that a three-story building
03:03has collapsed.
03:05Okay, but did you speak
03:07perhaps of something intentional?
03:10Is that what I mean?
03:13Look, the neighbors heard
03:15a loud explosion
03:17at the beginning of the fire
03:19and they can assimilate it
03:21to a gas leak
03:23that caused this explosion
03:25and the subsequent fire.
03:27Obviously, all this has to be
03:29reviewed by experts
03:31to determine
03:33what was the origin of this fire.
03:35But it is not ruled out that
03:37a gas leak
03:39caused this explosion
03:41and also
03:43the subsequent fire
03:45that has obviously
03:47kept all the inhabitants
03:49around this area
03:51of Chacabuco
03:53and Cambaceres on edge.
03:55I almost tell you,
03:57so that you have an idea,
03:59leaving the city of Buenos Aires,
04:01you go down the Puente del Pueyrredón,
04:03Mitre Avenue,
04:05to your left,
04:07about two or three blocks,
04:09and you see this panorama
04:11beyond the smoke
04:13that is so breathable
04:15this area,
04:17that you are already palpitating
04:19when you are finishing
04:21the Puente del Pueyrredón.
04:23Let's see, guys, are you from here?
04:25Have you been evicted?
04:27No, no, no,
04:29we are more over there.
04:31Perfect, perfect.
04:33Well, some guys have come
04:35to observe a little
04:37panorama that is breathtaking
04:39wherever you look at it.
04:41Eduardo, and on the way back,
04:43then we have to give a kind of
04:45a somewhat complicated
04:47circuit,
04:49there is a car that has been
04:51practically covered by rubble
04:53that has obviously remained on the side
04:55because backwards you also have
04:57part of this collapse,
04:59so there is a car that has been
05:01trapped among the rubble.
05:03The image is a desolation,
05:05it is a desolation,
05:07and to think of the families
05:09who have to start from scratch again
05:11because they lost absolutely everything,
05:13I don't know if the municipality
05:15will have any kind of assistance,
05:17well, where they spent the night,
05:19but the truth is that it is a
05:21desperate and distressing situation
05:23for those families who were
05:25literally left with nothing.
05:27Now, Fabi, to give me an idea,
05:29we see there the work of the firefighters
05:31that continues, although it is already
05:33in a state of disarray.
05:35Give me an idea of the rest of the area,
05:37if you want to expand the plane,
05:39if you want to tell me a little more
05:41the references you have
05:43beyond the fight itself, the fire.
05:45Yes.
05:47Look, let's see if we can ...
05:49This is the central part, let's say,
05:51the knot, the knot of this fire
05:53and where it developed
05:55since last night.
05:57They told me that obviously
05:59here the gas has been cut
06:01and the electricity.
06:03Last night, now it is coming back
06:05in some places because there was
06:07a little light in the buildings,
06:09these towers that are at the foot
06:11of the Pueyrredón Bridge.
06:13People are already coming back,
06:15Eduardo.
06:17Obviously, after the earthquake,
06:19what people first want to do
06:21is to be able to go home
06:23and in the midst of this outage,
06:25unfortunately, and the smoke
06:27and everything that remains,
06:29it is coming back.
06:31Let's see here, sir.
06:33How are you doing? Good morning.
06:35Are you from the area?
06:37I am from the area, yes.
06:39How did you live last night?
06:41The truth is, quiet,
06:43because it is a very dangerous area
06:45because of the sheds that are there.
06:47But with the work of the firefighters
06:49who brought the fire right away,
06:51they cut the spread
06:53and I know that with the way
06:55the firefighters work,
06:57no, no, no, because I live
06:59from here to 6 blocks.
07:01I have no problem,
07:03there was no problem.
07:05But the truth is,
07:07the work of the firefighters must be highlighted.
07:09There were two firefighters who were hospitalized
07:11with demonic conditions.
07:13What happens is that at first
07:15here it was very dangerous.
07:17Luckily it was possible to evacuate
07:19and civil personnel have not run into any danger.
07:21Very kind, thank you very much.
07:23Very kind, sir.
07:25Let's go this way.
07:27Look at what the street is like,
07:29full of rubble,
07:31water from the firefighters.
07:33Look at what this is,
07:35what the man was telling me.
07:37There are not many houses,
07:39there are many warehouses,
07:41there are many sheds.
07:43Here are the firefighters
07:45from Lanús,
07:47from Domínico,
07:49from Avellaneda.
07:51Obviously,
07:53they have been here all night
07:55fighting
07:57tirelessly
07:59to put out this fire.
08:01You look,
08:03look over there,
08:05that panoramic that we give you.
08:07It is the wind that is bringing
08:09the smoke to the area
08:11of Mitre Avenue.
08:13But it is unbreathable
08:15to be able to
08:17enter
08:19this area.
08:21You are circling
08:23the Pueyrredón Bridge.
08:25Already there, at that height,
08:27you can see this smoke
08:29that is emanating, that is coming out
08:31from the area of this
08:33sinister. Look, here we have the
08:35firefighters.
08:37Good morning people, how are you doing?
08:39Good morning. And the truth is that
08:41we have to applaud them, right?
08:43Because they are still here.
08:45Look, we are
08:47going around, let's say,
08:49this deposit, where you will also see
08:53the buildings, the towers
08:55that are next to
08:57the Pueyrredón Bridge.
08:59And
09:01look there, Pelos,
09:03what we have, part of the building.
09:05Look, there are
09:07some trucks, probably
09:09that have been
09:11affected
09:13inside.
09:15And look, look up there how
09:17the structure of
09:19this shed,
09:21of this deposit.
09:23And to the right, that meadow that is also
09:25damaged.
09:27Of course, the damage
09:29will have to be taken into account.
09:31Víctor, what is done in circumstances like this?
09:33Because we have to move forward with the investigation to see
09:35the origin and also
09:37the reconstruction and normalization of
09:39the situation, right? Three basic things
09:41that have to be done. The first thing is to safeguard the area.
09:43Make sure that no other
09:45events, not just fires,
09:47because although it seems that it is
09:49off, when they keep pouring water and
09:51doing all this work, which is true,
09:53the work of both volunteer firefighters
09:55and those who are going to collaborate is very remarkable
09:57because it is very common that, for example,
09:59the firefighters from La Boca for the southern area
10:01move like the firefighters from Núñez,
10:03they move to the side of Vicente for the northern area.
10:05In this case, several donations from
10:07the Conurbano, right? Exactly.
10:09And many donations from nearby places.
10:11Let's see, Fabi.
10:13Look at what this is,
10:15the back of the building
10:17and below,
10:19surely,
10:21a neighbor who has parked the car
10:23that has been trapped
10:25among the rubble. Total destruction.
10:27That is the point. The first thing is to
10:29avoid this, because just as it fell
10:31on top of the car, some other building
10:33structure can have a problem
10:35and generate a greater damage
10:37and even a fatal damage.
10:39And who does the relief? I mean, now
10:41the relief, to see if some structure
10:43has to be punctured.
10:45Civil defense and firefighters are the first to act.
10:47Obviously, a case is initiated for
10:49illicit investigation, which involves,
10:51in this case, the Department of Avellaneda.
10:53Guillermo Castro is the general prosecutor
10:55who is going to be in charge of this investigation
10:57to see how that fire was generated
10:59and this is basic, the expertise
11:01once everything is controlled.
11:03But the first thing is to control the fire,
11:05the second thing is to control
11:07that no more damage is generated.
11:09Everything that was affected, we saw
11:11the trucks, we saw the structures,
11:13we saw the car, all the buildings
11:15that are in front, you have no idea
11:17the damage generated by the smoke,
11:19the smoke and the water, the floods.
11:21Look, Eduardo.
11:23Well, in fact, Fabio, you have a beard,
11:25you decided to put it on because
11:27the air you breathe is complicated.
11:29Yes, it's terrible.
11:31It's terrible, look here,
11:33the piles that there are,
11:35this water that we are seeing here
11:37is the Riachuelo Lake
11:39that with hoses
11:41they are bringing it
11:43to be able to...
11:45Good morning.
11:47Could you explain a little bit from here?
11:49How are you?
11:51What do the officers say?
11:53I really congratulate you
11:55because you always stand out
11:57in this type of work, giving your life
11:59and it is good to be able to congratulate you
12:01and thank you as you have
12:03also risen for others.
12:05These piles, how is that work
12:07that they are doing?
12:09These are two piles that what we do
12:11is bring with the cisterns,
12:13unload in the piles
12:15and at the same time we have a line
12:17connected to the Riachuelo, live,
12:19then we supply with these piles.
12:21These are two trucks,
12:23two cistern trucks.
12:25Of course, of course.
12:27We avoid having two trucks standing here
12:29and we use the piles.
12:31And the water comes from the river?
12:33Yes, the water comes from the Riachuelo.
12:35Tell me one thing, how is the cistern?
12:37Is it under control?
12:39The cistern is under control,
12:41now the chiefs of Avellaneda are in charge,
12:43we are collaborations from the south-west,
12:45several regionals have come.
12:47For more information and so on,
12:49you would have to talk to...
12:51And the smoke, let's say, is it usual
12:53that so much smoke comes out?
12:55Yes, the smoke that burns the papers
12:57and everything that is under the rubble.
12:59There is no possibility that the fire will revive?
13:01Have you ever seen a situation like this?
13:03Yes, yes, we have seen several fires.
13:05No, no, with the destruction of a building
13:07that comes down.
13:09Yes, not in this style.
13:11It impressed me.
13:13Here where it is, there was a big fire
13:15that we had, I don't know if you remember,
13:17a big fire all over the Manzana.
13:19If I locate the second chief of Avellaneda
13:21to give you the interview.
13:23I thank you very much, very kind.
13:25Well, did you see Eduardo how it is?
13:27Of course, exactly, exactly.
13:29They are taking the water out of the river.
13:31And from there they are supplied
13:33to continue cooling the area
13:35because now it is a cooling issue.
13:37Victor, and the issue of insurance
13:39because there are structures
13:41that have been overcome,
13:43there are many policies
13:45that are beginning to be reviewed now.
13:47Here all the coverage begins
13:49and all the responsibilities.
13:51Basically where...
13:53Look, there is still fire, look, look.
13:55Yes.
13:57Do you see it?
13:59Yes, of course.
14:01Fire flames?
14:03Yes.
14:05And is it being fought from the plain
14:07or is there someone up high working?
14:09No, from the plain, from the plain.
14:11And notice that,
14:13I don't know if we make you see hair,
14:15the rise of the Porredón Bridge,
14:17so that you have an idea
14:19where we are.
14:21The cars that are passing by,
14:23how close we are to the descent
14:25of the Porredón Bridge,
14:27practically we are at,
14:29look, there you have the Mitre Valley,
14:31we are at 100 meters, no more.
14:33Look, I took it early,
14:35I took the Porredón Bridge early,
14:37Fabi, and there is smoke in the environment.
14:39When it is sustained, it seems,
14:41at half height,
14:43you see the smoke sustained
14:45and it is a product, well,
14:47of the tasks that have not yet been completed.
14:49But I am worried about that focus
14:51of fire that you just saw.
14:53Where does it come from?
14:55Where do you see that focus coming from?
14:59This is part of the back part,
15:01for redundancy, sorry,
15:03of the building.
15:05We were in the front part
15:07when we started our coverage.
15:09We turned around
15:13and it is in the back part,
15:15let's say,
15:17where the building fell.
15:19This structure has been standing,
15:21very deteriorated, obviously.
15:23This has been a shed,
15:25perhaps the back part
15:27of the shed.
15:29You see that,
15:31sure, look, there you have it.
15:33It is not significant,
15:35but this gives you the feeling
15:37that there are still igneous focuses
15:39around this structure.
15:41Very good.
15:43Look, Eduardo, the last one.
15:45Notice what that part is,
15:47of the structure,
15:49the concrete that falls
15:51on the upper part.
15:53And to give you an idea,
15:55the height that has fallen
15:57from this building.
15:59This means that the work
16:01of a few more areas
16:03by the firefighters is still missing.
16:05We'll be right back, Fabián.