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00:00Just before we cross to you, we heard a clip of the US Vice President, J.D. Vance, speaking to Sean Hannity on Fox News.
00:07And one of the other things he said, apart from the clip we aired, was, quote,
00:10the Russians are going to have to give up stuff, the Ukrainians are going to give up stuff.
00:16But, you know, you could argue, looking at it from the outside, Ukraine has already given up quite a lot of, quote, stuff.
00:23And that's been given up on its behalf by the US president who said, you know, they'll never join NATO,
00:27the 20 percent land of their territory that is occupied by Russia will not be returned to Ukraine.
00:35So that's been put out there. I mean, what's Russia giving up in all of this?
00:39And again, this is the devil in the details. And we have to start from a realistic position here.
00:45Can Ukraine, short of direct involvement of European countries in the United States to help fight in the conflict,
00:53short of that, does Ukraine have the capacity to eject the Russians out forcefully from Crimea
00:58and the five oblasts that President Putin annexed?
01:02Now, two of those five oblasts were never part of the Russian Republic going back to Khrushchev's time.
01:08So there is a historical precedent for and negotiated where this line of control will be.
01:14But again, it doesn't necessarily mean that the world has to accept Russia's annexation,
01:21whatever comes out of the negotiated solution.