Decision to Expel Illegal Foreign Residents: What Are the Challenges? Will Implementation Be Smooth?
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00:00Amir Zia Sahib, on 31st March, if Afghan nationals leave, then we will not be responsible for what happens next.
00:09Obviously, we have to implement a few rules, which are the laws of Pakistan.
00:13We have been welcoming them for so many decades.
00:17And then if we get this result, then ultimately this is what happens.
00:20Do you think Afghan nationals will want to leave peacefully,
00:23considering that they have made their lives here for so many decades,
00:26and yet they continue to speak and protest against Pakistan?
00:31This is a very complicated and delicate issue.
00:35You are absolutely right that we have been welcoming them for so many years.
00:40So Pakistan has to take care that our conversations and messages do not look like we are racial profiling someone.
00:48Because the way we object against Islamophobia,
00:52or if any other diaspora is targeted in any other country,
00:56then the same idea is applied in Pakistan as well.
01:00So, of course, the illegal refugees who have to be sent back, they should be sent back.
01:04But what will be the procedure for that?
01:06We cannot ignore the aspect of humanity in that.
01:10In countries like ours, there is an emerging tendency
01:15for vindictiveness.
01:21Amir sahab's call has been disconnected again.
01:23Sulangi sahab, do you think we have any vindictive element after so many decades?
01:27And we have still given a timeline. We have not started a crackdown.
01:30No, no.
01:33Amir sahab, I will come back to you.
01:35I am coming back to you.
01:37Your point is important that there can be work done in two ways.
01:40Sulangi sahab.
01:42Look, the thing is that it is not that you will put them in a concentration camp,
01:50or kick them out.
01:53Afghanistan is their country.
01:55And they are not our citizens.
01:57And they are not in the millions.
01:59In any other country in the world,
02:02there are other Muslim countries around Afghanistan,
02:07Pakistan is not the only one who has taken over Daryadli.
02:14Countries like America,
02:16they have very good relations with India.
02:20They filled two aircrafts,
02:22handcuffed them,
02:24tied them up and returned them.
02:26Yes.
02:27Either we have a special kind of heart,
02:31soft heart,
02:33so it is not that if you send them to Afghanistan,
02:36they will not be able to come back to Pakistan.
02:38But legally, through legal channels.
02:40If you send them back,
02:43they will be fingerprinted.
02:45And in the future, whoever wants to come,
02:47they should bring a visa.
02:49Okay.
02:50Amir sahab and I are not allowed to go.
02:53Sulangi sahab, it is difficult for us.
02:55We need to strengthen our green passport.
02:58But Amir sahab,
02:59you are talking about other ways.
03:01What can be the other way?
03:03No.
03:04I was saying that the refugees should go to their country.
03:08But the way we make them believe in the revolution,
03:11there should be a humanity aspect to it.
03:13Because the problem is that we have also seen
03:15that sometimes the local people,
03:17our Pashtuns,
03:18are overlapped.
03:20There is a racist slur.
03:22I am trying to make that thing believable.
03:24No, our Pashtuns are very important for us.
03:26Amir sahab, especially my in-laws,
03:28they are even more important for me.
03:31So, until we ensure this thing,
03:34in any way,
03:36you said that today they have a Pakistani passport.
03:40They have businesses.
03:42They are married.
03:43They were born here.
03:45It is a very complicated process,
03:47as I said in the beginning.
03:48How do you want to do it?
03:50So that we do not get defamed.
03:52So that we get our status.
03:54It is a challenging task.
03:55And our media should have a very responsible role in it.
03:58We should tell them that
04:00it should not happen that
04:02sometimes they ignite us against them.
04:05So, we should make a rabbit right wing,
04:08which we have seen in other countries,
04:10against the refugees.
04:12We should praise them in that way.
04:14And whatever we do,
04:15we should do it with confidence.
04:16We should talk to their stakeholders.
04:18We should talk to the Taliban.
04:20So that they settle down
04:21and involve their international community.
04:22Salangi sahab, I have 15 seconds.
04:24Closing remarks.
04:25The majority of Pashtuns in the world are in Pakistan.
04:30No other country can get the status of Pashtun.
04:33And if there is a city,
04:35where the majority of Pashtuns live,
04:37then it is that city,
04:39where Amir Zia is.
04:40Karachi.