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00:00Breaking news. What's that?
00:02Chris Godwin back to the Bucs. Ah
00:04Chihuahua 66 million chance to make 24 deal by done
00:1044 guaranteed signing deal done by Tori Dandy. That's all agent. I don't know the agent. Okay, so Ian Rappaport though
00:1766 million 44 guaranteed three-year deal so Godwin's just as we're talking about it back with the Bucs and 22 million
00:23Okay, so hang on, but we we had heard GRD said he's gonna make 25 million on the market
00:28In Tampa
00:31So no Devante Adams, no DK Metcalf Phil Perry says it's Chris Godwin or bust at wide receiver turns out it's bust
00:38He's back to Tampa three years 66 million. I have more bad news Keith
00:42Don't you dare blame the Wolfpack? Come on. We'll do something. I have more bad news more bad news
00:48I don't want to hear it offensive lineman that they were linked to they were linked to Dan Moore in Pittsburgh
00:53They were linked to Cam Robinson of the Minnesota Vikings
00:56Who was coached at one point in time
00:59By the new offensive line coach here when he was in Jacksonville Doug Marone
01:04Offensive tackle Jalen Moore formerly of the 49ers has signed with the Kansas City Chiefs. Not great Bob
01:09Two years two years 30 million 21 million guaranteed. That's according to Adam Schefter NFL insiders. They're gonna have 53 guys
01:18So that's an offensive line target off the board and Chris Godwin off the board you guys can weigh in all day long six one
01:24777-779-7
01:26797 Godwin back to the Bucs on what seems like a very reasonable deal
01:29Does that tell you he was just never gonna leave Tampa Bay and the Patriots had no real show
01:33That'd be the that'd be the spin for the Patriots like a positive for the Patriots
01:37But here's how I would I'm not letting them off the hook
01:39Did they get hung up on a guy who was never gonna leave like in other words like did they waste their time on?
01:44A guy who was never gonna leave Tampa Bay didn't read the room. Yeah
01:48Now because they were so gung-ho about maybe getting Godwin they missed out on Metcalf and Devon
01:53They were focused on the wrong place. In other words, or do you just think they knew God was going back the whole time interest?
01:58Kings, they're the new Red Sox blah blah blah. There could be some of that the the interest Kings. They were in it
02:03they sound like oh, well, we're gonna be aggressive on him because
02:06For the last month like you and I've been talking about all these names
02:09And did we really think Ronnie Stanley was really gonna leave?
02:12I you did more than I thought I didn't think God was gonna leave
02:15I thought Stanley would so so we flipped on that right like I thought maybe Godwin could and I didn't think
02:20Diggins would right so like these guys are kind of stay and put they're all on better teams
02:26They are all in better teams and for Godwin. He's in Florida. He's got a really good quarterback and
02:32That's a team. That is a playoff team. So he's like, why am I gonna leave?
02:36If the money was acceptable to him
02:38I wonder how much more the Patriots would have had to go or did they go we I guess we don't know the answer to
02:44that but because like you would probably need to
02:48Not not this is like a true hometown discount
02:51But how much more of the quote-unquote suck tax would the Pats have to offer a guy like Godwin who's never left Tampa Bay?
02:57Well Chad Graff
02:58Kraft he had the tweet earlier today
03:02R.i.p. Twitter
03:03He had the tweet earlier today
03:05Where he said he listed off all the different things that was holding the Patriots back from free agency and signing free agents Patriots
03:11They're not gonna get any free agents. Nobody wants to sign here because doesn't seem like it
03:15They don't want to play in cold weather. They don't want to play an hour outside of Boston
03:18The NFL PA survey was bad on top of it. It's a rebuilding team
03:22There was another item on there and if a PA right and he he said at one point
03:27Now there is a way around it. The Patriots can just throw a buttload of money at these players
03:31Yeah, but Godwin never got to market Ronnie Stanley never got to market. Those are two names. You heard they had high on their list
03:37Either the Patriots knew they weren't gonna get to market and they were playing the interest game just to create buzz and try to show
03:43They were in on somebody or they were chasing their tails hung up on players that were never gonna get to market and they wasted
03:49Their time. Yeah, because they were focused on the wrong guys the guys that they were never gonna get. Well, this is also bad
03:54No
03:55it is but this is also why DK Metcalf and Debo Samuel should have both been more of a priority because
04:00You take the decision out of their hands because right now
04:03Patriots versus team X
04:05You're gonna be hard-pressed to win that. Yep. Like oh that back-to-back four win seasons
04:10We're gonna have three coaches in three years
04:12You know, we like the quarterback
04:14But it's it's a it's a young quarterback in the same division as the Bills all this stuff working up against you
04:20The taxes in Massachusetts all the stuff that you want to kind of let throw on there
04:25But DK Metcalf and Debo Sammy if you trade for them
04:28Then you get them and then at that point you have to convince them and whether you throw them more money or you just convince
04:32Them what was the whole thing?
04:34Compensation and opportunity. Yep. Hey, you're the number one receiver and here's the compensation if DK Metcalf's playing for the Steelers
04:40He probably would have played for the Patriots to it
04:42So I think yeah couldn't say hey we can
04:44We don't need to call the Niners or the Seahawks because we're gonna be aggressive for Chris Godwin
04:50Well, what if he doesn't really want to leave and what if the Bucs give him a fair offer?
04:53Are we gonna do this text line six one seven seven seven nine seven ninety three seven Godwin just benefits from playing with Mike Evans
04:59Good lord. Okay, so now Godwin sucks. So you don't want Godwin. So you don't want DK
05:03I'm sorry
05:05Who do you T Higgins isn't a number one which which I've been guilty of saying and Godwin just benefits from Mike Evans
05:10So who who's your guy Chris Godwin would be so far and away the best receiver on this team
05:15It's not even funny like he would be it's not
05:19Competitive he would be excellent here. Okay, here's uh, here's where we're at in free agency Chris Godwin if you're just tuning in
05:26Three years 66 million according to rap sheet. He's back with the Bucs
05:29Jalen Moore who you might not be familiar with. He's a backup tackle in San Francisco. Sorry. I don't go that deep
05:34He's getting 30 million from the Chiefs to play offensive line in Kansas City
05:40Hassan Redick has also signed a one-year deal with Tampa. We're just into legal tampering. It began about 15 minutes ago
05:46I think those are all the moves that I've seen to this point. Yeah, the Bucs are busy Florio's top
05:51100 of free agency Higgins gone Darnold available great Trey Smith gone
05:57Josh sweat available. Yeah, but one or two legs, right?
06:01Chris Godwin the version of sweater we get Chris Godwin number five on the list gone
06:05Yeah, Ronnie Stanley number six on the list gone
06:09DJ Reed Javon Holland seven and eight still available Nick Bolton
06:12Oh, so it diggy zoo were gone if you want to go to 11 and 12 Justin Reed available Khalil back gone
06:17So the other thing in beggars can't be choosers. The Patriots have a million
06:21Needs. Yep
06:23So their first knee the first sign they had was Harold Landry who we both like and that's fine
06:28I like him. Where did Landry fit in on this? Let's keep going top 25. I would imagine
06:32Yeah
06:32Who knows keep scrolling?
06:33but some of those
06:34Some of those other names like if they start to beef up the defense and the defense needed the help
06:38This goes back to our your second year quarterback. How have you helped him?
06:42Nothing on the offensive line. Nothing at wide receiver. Not even a running back or a tight end now
06:47You're putting it all on the draft last year. Elliot Wolf drafted all offensive players. I mean including Drake May
06:53Yep, and then this year you're almost gonna be forced into that same thing again
06:58So I got take the defensive guys. They need to make that side of the ball a lot better, obviously
07:03But man, it's gonna be tough to get excited about the offseason if they're not bringing in anybody on offense. Okay
07:12Okay, so on Florio's list if we want to skip down the top tackle is Cam Robinson at
07:1717 the top wide receiver you said the name earlier Keith, but it's not great the top wide receiver
07:23is
07:24Amari Cooper and
07:26Where did he go? I just had him up but Amari Cooper will be next on that list
07:29Yeah, so we're talking about a guy who was a
07:33Tackle who's been passed around the league and Cam Robinson. He's the chooks the core for of 2025
07:38Amari Cooper is 37 on the list. He would be next up Milton Williams also shockingly low on that list
07:43He's 30 if I've seen him top 10 ish on a lot of other that's real low
07:46So that's where again Florio has them. That's just the list
07:49But you can seek out whichever one you want
07:516 1 7 7 7 9 7 9 3 7 all your thoughts on the Patriots their start to legal tampering in NFL free agency Bob's in
07:58Londonderry. Hello, Bob
08:00Hey guys, how you doing? Enjoy the show. Yeah. I was just curious
08:04I'm not really the expert by any stretch
08:06But what happens if ultimately like we've seen the last several years and I know you guys keep saying if you pay enough people will
08:14Come here. That really hasn't been the case and given all the problems the Patriots have I know they've made some improvements coaching so-called
08:23What are they gonna do if they really don't get any anybody that's of any significance? What's gonna happen?
08:28No, they're gonna suck again Bob and I would just say thanks for the phone call
08:32I would just say I don't know if we know how many times they really have paid the most
08:37Just this is the same thing
08:38We're not gonna do you really think the Red Sox paid the most on all those guys that they missed or they are just so close
08:43Hey, they want Soto all just so close Seth Lugo. Also close. Well, Jose a break you so
08:49The Patriots the one thing that came out last year after like all kinds of like pulling teeth on it was Brandon a uke
08:55They apparently did have a really big offer on the table for Brandon a uke and he didn't choose it
08:59but all these other ones like they didn't have the highest offer for Calvin Ridley and they didn't get him and
09:04So if you want to say they have to pay even a little bit more because of the state tax and all that stuff
09:09All right, fine. That's that's what they're gonna have to do. Have they ever done that?
09:13How many how many times over the last three years did a player sit there and after taxes and all this other nonsense?
09:19Did they say the Patriots offer was higher than the one that they took? Yeah, not often
09:24I don't think so. And you know when it comes to the Patriots and free agency
09:27I it doesn't mean they're gonna be terrible next year just because they don't land a bunch of players
09:31We brought up the the commanders earlier
09:33The commanders are mostly dumpster diving for Austin Eckler and Zach hurts and I probably mocked those moves when they happen
09:38You made the point they already have McLaurin which is more than the Patriots have
09:41But you know Bobby Wagner and these kind of savvy moves from the commanders
09:45You can still make it work with mid and low tier free agents. The Patriots did it in 2001 for God's sakes
09:50you can do that, but this is not exactly what we were sold and
09:55Exactly what we were expecting we were expecting
09:57For them to be aggressive and maybe they will be they still have time before free agency officially begins at four o'clock on Wednesday
10:04But so far outside of Harold Landry, I would say decidedly not
10:07Aggressive or at least not successful in terms of landing anybody Barry's a new Bedford. Hello Barry
10:12Hey guys, but you know, I don't think I knew they were getting family and when he signed on Saturday
10:18I just started laughing because I knew just with this the way this is gonna play out then you read the Landry contract
10:23They will they busted his balls on that it was cheap on that and then you know guys are very very very just real quick
10:30When you say they busted his balls on that he just came in lower than you expected or is there actual reporting that I?
10:35Think the money from what I understand the money is not what you think it is
10:38No, it's it's you know, it's it's lower than I thought he was gonna get for sure
10:42But I didn't mean anything that they were, you know haggling and having hard negotiations. I
10:47Think the toughest thing with them right now is it's not the coach or the quarterback
10:51It's you haven't won in five years
10:53You have it you have kind of have a history of being kind of cheap and then your facilities are probably the worst in the league
11:00You know the 1970s Gold's gym the prop planes with the ashtrays it's kind of hard to sell that to people, you know
11:06Yeah, so we'll see what happens next but they're gonna have to build a middle class of their roster up first
11:11Okay. Well look there there's gonna be opportunity to do that and I agree
11:15They have a ton of needs keep you said this earlier ton of needs up and down the roster all over the place
11:20And so yeah, they can sign a lot of guys and they don't have to do it today
11:24They don't have to do it right this second
11:25But I think people would be a lot less panicky and they'd be a lot happier if you did
11:29That doesn't have to be at the top of their list
11:31But I think that's where the fan base is at they they were excited for this moment and so far Patriots aren't doing much
11:36Although in fairness, what is it? Like three four moves around the league, right?
11:39Yeah, and then I'm trying to track this down, but it sounds like Ian Rappaport
11:43And I know Twitter's down much to the chagrin of Adam Jones
11:45I mean who would who could use it on a day like but uh, I think rap also said is that
11:51God wouldn't turn down more money. I saw this. Well, I saw he turned my team didn't say which team
11:55I saw the text line of mystery team so could be the Patriots could be
11:59Maybe not maybe maybe not but yeah, that's the thing
12:03You know, that's the guy who's played for one team wanted to be there
12:06They even had the thing remember they moved the date around for like the deadline and stuff
12:10So they clearly wanted to get a deal done. Look he was a done deal back to the Bucks
12:14Oh, yeah, he wasn't the Patriots wasted their time on Godwin
12:16Just like they wasted their time on Ronnie Stanley and I was guilty of Stanley
12:19I thought there was a chance Stanley was gonna leave and he didn't so the Patriots at best
12:24Wasted their time thinking they were gonna land real free agents at worst if you don't want to be charitable and give them the benefit
12:29Of the doubt they drummed up interest on players
12:31They knew they weren't gonna get just to satiate a rabid fan base
12:35But that would be very short-sighted on their end because that's gonna come back around