Luis Ventura se suma al debate de las circunstancias que rodearon la muerte de Diego Maradona, centrándose en las responsabilidades del entorno del astro argentino. Se aborda el papel del doctor que supervisó su operación y las decisiones tomadas por Maradona respecto a su círculo cercano. Además, se revelan detalles sobre sus últimos deseos y encuentros personales. La conversación también toca temas sensibles como el uso de sustancias y las relaciones familiares del ícono del fútbol.
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00:00How do you take this? What do you have to share with us?
00:04Look, I stick to what I've always said, right?
00:08With respect to the issue of let's let the justice decide
00:12from an impartial place, from a place...
00:16Because we all play by ear here, right?
00:18Depending on what they tell us, what they tell us, what they spread to us
00:22those who give us information, those who operate
00:26those who, in some places, also want to take advantage
00:30because there are many people here, there are many hands on the table
00:34What do you think of the change, of the transformation of the main accused
00:38who is the doctor who operated on Diego?
00:42No, he didn't operate on him
00:44He supervised the operation
00:46I'm contradicting everything he's saying
00:48I have a very particular view
00:50which has no value, what I can say
00:52because, I repeat again
00:54it's the justice that has to decide, not others
00:58The first person responsible for the death of Maradona
01:00is Maradona himself
01:02I'm telling you because I spoke...
01:06In the last time, I established a rapprochement with Maradona
01:08a rapprochement of encounters
01:10which began in the office of Dr. Steve Falle
01:12and then I was also with him
01:16in the house of Verónico Ojeda
01:18and I had many calls
01:20and I had a couple more encounters
01:22but beyond that
01:24we had many differences with Maradona
01:26many controversies
01:28many fights
01:30What united them, Luis?
01:32But beyond that
01:34we got face to face
01:36we cleared all the invoices
01:38we passed all the invoices that we had to pass
01:40and among other things, Maradona
01:42told me, after his birthday
01:44where he wanted to have all his children
01:46on the same table
01:48friends
01:50relatives
01:52reunited
01:54he wanted to have everyone
01:56to celebrate his 60th birthday
01:58when his 60th birthday passed
02:00without that wish being fulfilled
02:02he told me
02:04on a phone call
02:06that he wanted to die
02:08but Ventura, I understand
02:10what you are saying
02:12that he was a bad patient
02:14that he did not fulfill
02:16that it was very difficult to handle
02:18there was an environment
02:20that they had put on him
02:22to try to lead a life
02:24a little healthier
02:26just to save his life
02:28Who had put it on him?
02:30Well, at that moment
02:32Morla
02:34Morla
02:36accepted Diego's indications
02:38Who chose Morla?
02:40Diego
02:42Who partnered
02:44in many deals with Morla?
02:46Diego
02:48Yes, but Diego was not well
02:52Now
03:02Luis
03:04Right
03:22I say
03:24i think no one is disputing
03:26that Maradona
03:28No, no, no
03:30Don't change me
03:32I saw when Diego Maradona was signing a paper, but I don't know what that paper said.
03:43No, no, it's not to confront you, Luis, but I saw that Diego Maradona was signing a paper.
03:51I didn't see if it was those 14 points that Diego was signing.
03:54I'll show you the paper, I'll show you the text.
03:57Stop, stop.
03:59What I want to tell you, and I agree with you, is that Diego Maradona obviously wasn't an easy patient.
04:06But the responsibility was on the doctors.
04:11What's your question?
04:12We're looking for a murder character, right?
04:16Yes.
04:17The DA says so.
04:19Condolence, right?
04:21Eventual condolence.
04:23Eventual condolence. What does that mean?
04:26That someone murdered him with the intention of murdering him.
04:29Who was Maradona's death good for?
04:31According to Burlando, all of Maradona's surroundings.
04:36Because we're talking about money and business, Luis, not health or friendship.
04:41Maradona's life didn't interest him.
04:43No, no, but who was he good for, for him to die?
04:46Well, the surroundings.
04:48The surroundings?
04:51I'm sorry, the surroundings?
04:53Maradona's last surroundings.
04:55No, no, no.
04:57Speak later.
04:59There's a third possibility, Luis.
05:01The third possibility has to do with a medical specialist,
05:05superimposing medications without taking into account the basic diseases of a patient,
05:09knows that even if he wants to give him that medication, it's going to complicate another health condition.
05:13That's negligence.
05:15And that can end up in a death case.
05:17Difficult to prove.
05:19Who wanted to see Maradona dead?
05:21Well, who wanted to, Luis?
05:23Don't ask us and say it yourself.
05:25Of course, we have no idea.
05:27They wanted to see him dead. He told me.
05:29They didn't kill him. He told me.
05:31Who?
05:33Who?
05:35Who, Ventura?
05:37Well, who?
05:39I mean, the doctors, for the doctors,
05:42like for the medical organization.
05:46They wanted to see Maradona dead.
05:48A Maradona with a patient.
05:53Never dead.
05:55That's what's incomprehensible, Luis.
05:57That's what's incomprehensible.
05:59And we're full of questions.
06:01Well, this has just started, it's going to last a few months,
06:03so it's going to be a topic a thousand times.
06:06Luis, I ask you to give me a minute,
06:08because I want to ask you something about your close friend Carmen Barbieri.
06:12Give me a second.
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06:59Are you still here?
07:00I was waiting for the tape.
07:02Well, Ventura, I come back to you.
07:04I come back to you, Ventura.
07:06Luisito, you found yourself very recently.
07:10Do you hear me? Come here.
07:13I'm going to tell you.
07:15I'm going to tell you the situation.
07:17Ventura, who has taken a few days off,
07:20but is still entering the channel to go to 24,
07:24had a close encounter with Mrs. Carmen Barbieri.
07:28We have the tape, Ventura.
07:30What a day of encounters, my God.
07:32Do you want to see the face you put on when you saw Carmencita?
07:36And how you greeted her?
07:38Look.
07:40You can have a crush here.
07:42An encounter.
07:43Look at this, in the alleys of America, everything happens like this.
07:47I'm alive.
07:48To luck and truth.
07:49To luck and truth.
07:50We were few.
07:51Let whatever happens.
07:52Let God do what He wants.
07:53Why?
07:54You were challenging me.
07:55But what barbarity.
07:56The encounter of the year.
07:58He gets nervous, he doesn't give a damn.
07:59You said Luis.
08:00There, he challenged me.
08:01They made me a sign.
08:02There he goes.
08:03Keep going, keep going.
08:05There he goes.
08:06Keep going, keep going.
08:09They made me a sign.
08:10Good?
08:11Good.
08:12Primitive.
08:13Attention, portals.
08:15You crossed paths with everything.
08:17No, but why?
08:18I get mad.
08:19I get mad at the moment.
08:20You get mad at the moment.
08:21What's up?
08:22It's a fucking day of traffic, but the truth is that we love this atmosphere.
08:26No, what I want to ask you first, Ventura, is why did you paint Carmen's face like that?
08:31What's up?
08:32How, how?
08:33Why did you paint Carmen's face like that?
08:35You left it drawn, with a grip, as they say.
08:39No, I greeted her as it should be.
08:41And you left.
08:42Come on, Ventura, you greeted her, but like that.
08:44No, no, no.
08:45You painted her face.
08:46We are in the middle of a colleague program.
08:49Ah, ok.
08:50Besides, I'll tell you one thing.
08:52Yes.
08:53Since I'm a traitor, I'm the Judas of the afternoon.
08:57The what?
08:58The Judas.
08:59Why?
09:00But wait, let's explain where this is coming from.
09:03Let's see.
09:04Let's explain, Ventura, I don't understand.
09:06Yes.
09:10Yes, yes.
09:12Yes.
09:22So it was the kiss of Judas, you mean?
09:25Of course.
09:26Wow, that's strong.
09:27Well, good night.
09:28Good night.
09:29Wait, this comes, when you were on vacation, dear, and we had a cell phone with Carmen Barbieri.
09:34Uh-huh.
09:35Well, to talk about Morena Rial and others.
09:38Yes, of course.
09:39It came out on the phone, and she got upset about some questions, or I don't know, or
09:43she didn't understand well, maybe because of the phone, the questions we asked her.
09:47The reality is that she got very upset, she disappeared from the interview.
09:50She hung up?
09:51She hung up the phone.
09:52As if she didn't feel comfortable.
09:54She felt mistreated.
09:55Ah, of course.
09:56She hung up the phone, and she also sent messages to Luisito Ventura, she send me
10:06messages, to people of the production company, and what do you say?
10:09When Carmen got upset, you saw that Carmen...
10:10Put me the message I put you, let's see.
10:12Show me.
10:13No, show it to me.
10:14They are audios.
10:15Oh, no, audios, no.
10:16No.
10:17Carmen, the next day, I was also on vacation, so that faith I'm going to attract all of
10:22you to all of you who are here because Carmen treated you as traitors to all
10:27and especially to Ventura. Ventura treated him as a traitor and to all of you as traitors too.
10:33I'm going to defend, he doesn't need it, but I'm going to defend Ventura.
10:36Don't feel bad Ventura because you didn't betray in any way.
10:39No, I don't feel bad, my name is Boncio Pilato.
10:45There it is, perfect, wash your hands.
10:49I promised you that I would never betray anyone again.
10:55And you're going to do it.
10:57You're not going to do it either.
10:59No, it was a misunderstanding, it wasn't a betrayal, it was a misunderstanding.
11:03What Christians are we?
11:05No, no, no, no, but Mrs. Carmen Marquina got too angry, I think.
11:09But, sorry, sorry, let's agree on the following.
11:13She gets angry easily.
11:15Yes, yes.
11:17Karina, when you were on the show, how did you feel?
11:21I thought she had turned the page and no.
11:25And here I was with the page that had turned and she said, get out!
11:29That's Carmen, that's Carmen.
11:31Carmen does the show.
11:33It's her nature.
11:35Carmen lives for the show.
11:37Carmen does the show.
11:39She knows there's a camera on and she does the show.
11:41So we have to thank her for cutting us off.
11:46I'm going to show you what happened with Julieta Prandi's note yesterday, for example.
11:50She had agreed to talk to you, but at one point you told her...
11:54Let's see.
11:56Well, the same thing happened.
11:58Here my colleagues disbanded,
12:00and Mrs. Carmen Barbieri, over there...
12:04Wait, wait, I wasn't there.
12:06Tell me who...
12:08Who sucked her...
12:10Who did this to her?
12:12Who, who, who?
12:14This girl behind me.
12:16Get out of here.
12:18Mrs. Carmen Barbieri,
12:20you should have imagined it.
12:22She's a little Scorpio.
12:26What happened, Carmen?
12:28What do you ask her?
12:30She got angry.
12:32Because she didn't close the explanation of Morena Real.
12:36If it was a job, if it was a proposal.
12:38She was like turning around.
12:40We insisted a lot and she didn't like
12:43that we insisted on the subject.
12:45And she got very angry with me.
12:47She already got angry and got angry with me many times.
12:49We had already fixed it.
12:51I cooked milanesas for her one day on the show.
12:53But she doesn't forgive.
12:55No, and she forgives, but she doesn't forget.
12:57And she didn't want to talk to us.
12:59No, that's true.
13:01She didn't want to talk to us.
13:03That's a caricature.
13:05She has a grudge.
13:07She has a grudge.
13:09Ventura, you're going to...
13:11You're going to make friends with Carmen at some point.
13:13Are you interested in making friends with her?
13:15Do you want to tell her something?
13:17No, I don't have to make more friends.
13:19I don't have to make more friends.
13:21Because I'm not fighting with her.
13:23I asked her...
13:25First, I thanked her for the communication she gave us.
13:27Very good.
13:29And then I apologized to her.
13:31Very good, Ventura.
13:33What happens is that the return was...
13:35Well, not the best, but I learned.
13:37I learned.
13:40I learned.
13:42We even asked her to return the communication to apologize publicly.
13:44And Carmen didn't want to.
13:46She didn't want to.
13:48Speaking of reconciliations, what did you think of the score between Canosa and Rial?
13:50Oops!
13:52Canosa and Rial.
13:54Canosa and Rial.
13:58Are you kidding me?
14:00No, really? You didn't see it?
14:02You're going to say you didn't see it, Ventura.
14:04I'm on vacation.
14:06You're on vacation, but you're going to 24.
14:09You must have heard something.
14:11Of course.
14:13But where did they reconcile?
14:15On TV Nostra, where?
14:17They talked on TV Nostra.
14:19They talked.
14:21They did a review of all the years they shared.
14:23They flirted.
14:25They threw flowers.
14:27Your reunion with Rial is missing, Ventura.
14:29Yes.
14:31When?
14:33When you put the list, I'll answer.
14:35In this interview, was there money?
14:37You do it, Ventura.
14:39I worked many years.
14:41For him?
14:43For him?
14:45I'm not betraying you.
14:47But you don't help him.
14:49But why do you say you put the money?
14:51In this interview that he did with Rial,
14:53was there money?
14:55Was there a payment for that interview?
14:57I don't know if it was a payment,
14:59but well.
15:01I knew how to talk to both of them
15:04and I knew how to listen to both of them
15:06at the first moment.
15:08And when you listened to her?
15:10At times.
15:12One of the other.
15:14Sorry, Ventura.
15:16Maybe there is skepticism.
15:18Ventura, Ventura, Ventura.
15:20I'll ask you one last question and I'll let you go.
15:22I know you have things to do.
15:24Do you think there was a payment in yesterday's note?
15:28Do you say that?
15:30No, I'm asking you.
15:32They paid from one side to the other
15:34for this conclave to happen.
15:38What do you think?
15:40Ventura, I'll solve it.
15:42Oh, alfajores.
15:44The alfajores box.
15:46I ask you, please,
15:48that it's not the alfajores box that I saw.
15:50The one I tried was very tasty,
15:52those alfajores.
15:54What did you try?
15:56What did they give you to eat?
15:58What did you try?
16:01To eat alfajores.
16:03I told you it was the alfajores box.
16:05I didn't see it happen.
16:07We all saw it happen.
16:09Fantastic. Ventura,
16:11rest, please,
16:13and we'll wait for you back when you feel like it.
16:15Cheers.
16:17A big kiss. Thank you, Luis.