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โš ๏ธ Are Peace Talks Already Dead?
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00:00Transcription by CastingWords
00:30Hi everyone, Judge Andrew Napolitano here for Judging Freedom.
00:36Today is Tuesday, April 15th, 2025.
00:40Colonel Douglas McGregor will be with us in just a moment on
00:44Will President Zelensky and the neocons even accept a peace treaty negotiated by the United States and Russia?
00:54But first this.
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02:24Colonel McGregor, thank you for joining us, my dear friend.
02:27Always a pleasure.
02:28Before we get to the subject at hand, has the United States aligned itself with ISIS and Al-Qaeda again?
02:40And does that alliance include the use of air power in order to attack the Houthis in Yemen?
02:50Well, you know the United States' preference for proxies.
02:53But we'd much rather use someone else's ground force against our opponents than do it ourselves.
03:00So I think there is very definitely an effort right now to organize and recruit from the elements that you just mentioned in the Saudi Peninsula or the Arabian Peninsula
03:10and use them on the ground while we bomb and support from the air and the sea.
03:16Clearly, there's no willingness to use the United States Marine Corps, which one would have thought, if you were serious about this, that you would have landed some Marines somewhere.
03:27This is exactly the sort of thing for which the Marine Corps was originally devised, raids ashore to destroy enemies or seize key points, harbors, and so forth.
03:38So it looks like it's possible, yes.
03:41And, of course, ISIS and Al-Qaeda have been declared by the Secretary of State and the Secretary of the Treasury as terrorist organizations,
03:52and it is a felony to provide material assistance to terrorist organizations.
03:57But I guess somehow that doesn't apply to the Department of Defense and the CIA.
04:01Well, you know that it certainly didn't apply to Senator McCain, who was behind that sort of thing in Syria and in northern Iraq
04:10and actually went over to encourage turning the various Islamist organizations with equipment against, at the time, the Assad regime and his allies.
04:22So I guess this is nothing new and yet another flagrant disregard for the law.
04:28Is there any reason, any military reason, to justify the United States attacking and killing people in Yemen other than to satisfy the bellicosity of Prime Minister Netanyahu?
04:44Well, obviously, we would like to see the uninterrupted flow of commerce at sea moving through the Suez Canal and the Red Sea.
04:52We have a permanent interest in that, and so that makes sense for the Navy to try and protect and enhance that as much as possible.
05:01The problem is that we are not just simply aligned, we are integrated into the larger Israeli offensive operation in the region.
05:11And as such, everything that belongs to Israel and frankly to us is now seen as part of the enemy.
05:17And so we're in a very difficult position, Judge.
05:20We are effectively at war with everyone and anyone who opposes Israel in the region.
05:25Last week, Prime Minister Netanyahu met for a couple of hours with President Trump, and afterwards they came out to the Oval Office and held a press conference.
05:39And at that press conference, President Trump announced that his emissary, Steve Witkoff, would be speaking directly with the Iranians.
05:49Prime Minister Netanyahu, Prime Minister Netanyahu, seemed aghast at this.
05:52I don't know if he knew about it ahead of time, if the president was intending to embarrass him.
05:58The Economist and the BBC also reported that Prime Minister Netanyahu came to the Oval Office expecting to talk President Trump into publicly criticizing President Erdogan of Turkey and publicly supporting the Israelis in a war against Iran, and he didn't get either.
06:24Do you accept that thesis?
06:28You know, it's very hard to know without having been there, Judge.
06:32I mean, first of all, I don't think President Trump wants to be drawn into an Israeli conflict with the Turks.
06:40That would be, from the standpoint of U.S. foreign and defense policy, worse than self-defeating, it would be catastrophic.
06:47On the other hand, I think that President Trump views this as the last, best opportunity to reach some sort of arrangement before he has to commit to Mr. Netanyahu's war with Iran.
07:02Now, that may still happen, and I think the president has made that clear.
07:06I think he's put himself in a very difficult position.
07:08He doesn't have much maneuver room, even though privately he's clearly walked back all of the extreme measures that were outlined in what was effectively an ultimatum to the Iranians.
07:22And I think this is a point of serious concern for Mr. Netanyahu, because clearly, if all we're going to demand is that they remain at the 60 percent uranium enrichment threshold,
07:34and otherwise we're largely jettisoning the remaining demands that were made, that certainly does not serve Mr. Netanyahu's long-term purpose.
07:46Remember, Mr. Netanyahu made it very clear he wants the Libyan solution for Iran, and I would argue that that's Mr. Zelensky's solution for Russia.
07:56So, Mr. Trump is now dealing with two recalcitrant supposed allies, with whom we have no official treaty whatsoever in either case.
08:08But nevertheless, we regard Zelensky and Netanyahu as allies.
08:13Here's what you said earlier with our friend Colonel Davis about the military strength of Iran.
08:24Chris, cut number 15.
08:26What nation on the planet can have their embassy destroyed in another country, and to have an assassination in their capital city on an inauguration, and not go to war with somebody?
08:36Yet that's exactly what Iran didn't do, because they don't have the power to do it.
08:40So that should tell you...
08:42Wait a minute, wait a minute.
08:43That's a fundamentally false statement.
08:46Which part?
08:48False, false, false.
08:49They don't have the power to go to war?
08:52You haven't looked carefully at Iran.
08:54Iran's arsenal of missiles is enormous.
08:58It could flatten Israel in a day.
09:01They have the power to go to war.
09:03They have chosen repeatedly to avoid war.
09:07And I've said this a thousand times.
09:09No one in the Middle East is interested in a war except Israel and the United States.
09:14What does the Trump foreign policy establishment, Vance, Hegseth, Rubio, Gorka, Waltz, do they understand that?
09:26What is the foreign policy of the United States?
09:31I think the foreign policy of the United States is two-dimensional.
09:35On the one hand, it's whatever President Trump says on any given day.
09:40And on the other hand, it's the permanent neocon bureaucracy of which his administration is a part.
09:48So I think you've got two dimensions there.
09:51He is very impulsive.
09:54I see no strategy, no coherent approach of any kind to anything, whether that involves widespread deportation of illegal aliens, the systematic securing of the border, the ending the war in Ukraine as quickly as possible, or anything else.
10:11Where is the strategy?
10:14What is the approach?
10:15What's the framework?
10:17I don't see anything.
10:18So we're back to, well, it's whatever President Trump said today or yesterday.
10:22And I'm sure he's quite satisfied with that.
10:25And on the other hand, all of these other people you mentioned, somebody said recently, if you hire clowns, then you get a circus.
10:33Well, I think the rest of the people that you mentioned are very much involved in the broader circus.
10:38Here's one of the ringmasters on Sunday morning.
10:44Chris, cut number nine.
10:47He's dead serious that Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.
10:51He's said that for 20 years.
10:53He's been consistent.
10:54That is clear.
10:55But he's also dead serious that if we can't figure this out at the negotiating table, then there are other options to include my department to ensure that Iran never has a nuclear bomb.
11:04We hope we never get there.
11:05We really do, Maria.
11:06But what we're doing with the Houthis and what we're doing in the region, we've shown a capability to go far, to go deep and to go big.
11:14And again, we don't want to do that.
11:15But if we have to, we will to prevent the nuclear bomb in Iran's hands.
11:20Have they gone far, deep, big and been effective in trying to degrade the Houthis?
11:27Well, on the one hand, I'm a little confused because I think what we're really saying to everyone is not that Iran can't have a nuclear weapon.
11:37It's that Israel must maintain a nuclear monopoly in the region.
11:43That's what this is really all about.
11:45Otherwise, it sounded as though he was describing a pornographic film that he'd seen at some point because the rest of it didn't make any damn sense.
11:55The Houthis are still with us.
11:56They've sustained tremendous effects from bombing.
12:00I don't think you can bomb your way to success in the Middle East.
12:03Years ago, somebody, I think it was an admiral, who said, you can't kill your way to success.
12:07Well, I think we're at the point now where we just try to bomb our way to success.
12:11It's not going to happen.
12:14What would he have said?
12:16How could you know what he would have said?
12:18But you've forgotten more than he's ever known without getting personal.
12:25What would he have said if she said to him, well, why can Israel have a nuclear weapon and Iran can't?
12:31How could he have answered that?
12:33Well, I think he'd have probably been stumped.
12:36It's not something that he's ever dealt with.
12:38It's something that nobody in the United States can address.
12:42Because to suggest that if Israel has 300 nuclear weapons, that they can launch at a moment's notice from the air, from the land or from sea,
12:53makes it impossible for a state the size of Iran or Turkey or Saudi Arabia or Egypt or any other numbers of states in the region to live without a nuclear deterrent.
13:06Because there's nothing they can do to stop the Israelis from effectively annihilating them if they choose to do so.
13:15So we don't view things from that standpoint.
13:18Our assumption is the only people that have a right to a nuclear capability in the region are the Israelis.
13:24And that's justified on the basis of the fact that they are Israelis.
13:28On his way back from his home in Florida on Sunday night on Air Force One, the president spoke at length.
13:40We've reduced it to 60 seconds.
13:43Because I'm going to tell you ahead of time what I'm going to ask you.
13:47Is the war in Ukraine now Donald Trump's war?
13:52But before you answer, here's what he had to say about it.
13:54Cut number one.
13:55Do you have a reaction to Russia's poem Sunday attack?
13:59I think it was terrible.
14:00And I was told they made a mistake.
14:02But I think it's a horrible thing.
14:04I think the whole war is a horrible thing.
14:06I think the war is, for that war to have started, is an abuse of power.
14:13You said they made a mistake.
14:13You were told they made a mistake.
14:15Do you mean it was unintentional?
14:16They made a mistake.
14:17I believe it was.
14:18Look, you're going to ask them.
14:20This is Biden's war.
14:21This is not my war.
14:22I've been here for a very short period of time.
14:25This is a war that was under Biden.
14:28He gave him billions and billions of dollars.
14:31He should have never allowed, if he had any brain, which he didn't have and doesn't have,
14:36and now it's being proven, he wouldn't have allowed that war to start.
14:40I would have absolutely not.
14:41That war would never have taken place.
14:44But remember this.
14:45This is Biden's war.
14:46I'm just trying to get it stopped so that we can save a lot of lives.
14:50They happen to be Ukrainian and Russian lives.
14:54But all I want to do is get it stopped.
14:56So the legislation under which President Biden shipped about 165 to 190, it's hard to put
15:07a finger on it.
15:08There are different ways to measure it, as you know, billion in military equipment and
15:13cash to Kiev, and under which President Trump has shipped a billion in military equipment
15:21to Kiev, specifies that that equipment is to be shipped at the discretion of the president.
15:28Question.
15:29Is this now Donald Trump's war?
15:32Yes.
15:33The only way it could not have been his war would have been had he stood there on the
15:39day after his inauguration or signed an executive order or something and made it clear that we
15:44were going to cease sending all forms of military aid to Ukraine, number one.
15:51And number two, that all U.S.
15:53personnel in and out of uniform, intelligence, civilian, doesn't make any difference, would
15:58leave Ukraine within 48 hours.
16:00Had he done that, then this would not be his war.
16:03But he did the opposite.
16:05And effectively, what he's done since he's been in there is largely extend Biden policies.
16:10So now he owns it.
16:12He knows how to stop it.
16:14And that's just what I described.
16:17But, you know, this has always been a problem for him because he surrounds himself with people
16:22who give him reasons to act against his wisdom, against his own instincts.
16:30Let me tell you, back in April of 2022, I received a call from Mar-a-Lago and a voice at the other
16:37end said, what do you think about Ukraine and what's happening there?
16:40This was probably the first week of April, 2022.
16:44I said, well, this thing's a catastrophe.
16:46We need to stop it immediately.
16:48He said, why?
16:49This particular voice.
16:51I said, well, if we don't stop it, the Russians are going to crush the Ukrainians.
16:56And the voice at the other end said, well, everyone here says that the Ukrainians are winning.
17:01The Russians are losing.
17:02And I said, well, first of all, that's wrong.
17:06It's not true.
17:07And then secondly, we have no interest in a war in that region.
17:12What we have an interest in is peace and stability.
17:15And whatever we can do to bring peace and stability to the region should be our top priority,
17:19because otherwise we have no stake in eastern Ukraine whatsoever.
17:23So I think you've always had people like Gorka, like Waltz.
17:29I mean, they may have other names.
17:30It doesn't make any difference.
17:31They surround the president and they try to persuade him that nothing can happen unless
17:36we are somehow or another directly involved in it, even though they have no value strategically
17:42to us at all.
17:43And secondly, that we have to impose a solution because if we don't, we look weak.
17:50And this is back to the question of how do we get a win for the boss?
17:56Wait a minute.
17:58This is not UFC night.
18:01This is not a college basketball match.
18:04This is life and death for millions of people at the moment in Ukraine.
18:11But if we're not careful, this could spread, not because of anything that President Putin
18:16wants to do, but because of the stupids who are ruling in Paris and London and Berlin,
18:22they could cause it to expand.
18:23And of course, that would be delightful for the fools living in Lithuania, Lafayette,
18:28and Estonia, all of whom could be crushed in 24 hours.
18:31All of this nonsense needs to end.
18:33He's the leader of NATO.
18:35He commands NATO effectively.
18:37So he's the one that stands up and says, it's over.
18:41We're out.
18:42I'm not supporting this any longer.
18:44And as soon as you do that, everything changes.
18:47Zelensky's out of a job.
18:49Zelensky has no future.
18:51His corrupt criminal regime in a country that is potentially the most corrupt in the world,
18:58if such a thing is possible, will go under.
19:01This is why he owns it now.
19:04It's tragic.
19:05It's unnecessary because it's right.
19:07He didn't want this because he's not stopping it.
19:11But Colonel, President Trump's official emissary to Ukraine, General Kellogg, actually proposed
19:21a solution.
19:22I mean, this is insane, but this is what he proposed.
19:25And the solution is to divide Ukraine up the way Berlin was right after 1945.
19:32Has he been living under a rock for the past three years?
19:35Does he think that such a solution would even be considered for a millisecond by Foreign
19:41Minister Lavrov or with whomever Mr.
19:44Witkoff is negotiating?
19:46Well, I don't think General Kellogg's audience is in Moscow.
19:50I think his audience is in Western Europe, the three capitals that I mentioned earlier.
19:55And he's got a big audience back here in Washington, D.C.
19:59These are foolish people that think that somehow or another we and the world and Europe will
20:05all benefit from sustaining this conflict.
20:08And there's just no evidence for that.
20:11The conflict is destructive.
20:13It's harming everyone.
20:14It's harmed us economically as well as strategically.
20:17Stop and consider that we've learned a couple of very important things over the last few years.
20:22Number one, that our equipment, our organization, our tactics don't work on the battlefield that
20:30exists today.
20:31We live in a different world.
20:33We have a battlefield or a battle space, as people like to call it, that has changed
20:37dramatically.
20:39The Russians have adapted.
20:40We haven't.
20:41And the genius military leaders that are currently occupying the senior echelons of the U.S.
20:49Armed Forces have played a dramatic role deciding how operations will be conducted.
20:56And as a result, 1.5 million Ukrainians, somewhere to be 1.5, 1.2 and 1.5 million Ukrainian soldiers
21:03are dead.
21:05And the war has been lost.
21:07And the Russians are now prepared to move further west to consolidate their position
21:12before they finally put an end to this.
21:15So that's catastrophe number one.
21:18But we're not coming to terms with that reality.
21:20If we looked objectively at the battle space and understood what's happened militarily, we'd
21:26figure out pretty damn quick we're not in a position to do business effectively on the
21:31battlefield with the Russians.
21:32Number two, look at the tariffs.
21:35The tariffs have revealed something.
21:38Our weakness economically.
21:41You know, we went into this tariff war on the basis of the assumption of people like
21:45Navarro and presumably Lutnik that foreign capital would then flow into our markets.
21:51It's not flowing in.
21:53The bond market is a disaster.
21:56If we're not careful, it's going to hit 5%.
21:58When that happens, we lose everything because the Japanese and the Chinese and others are dumping
22:04our treasuries.
22:05All of this is going on.
22:07And yet, President Trump continues to vacillate between I want peace, but I'm going to continue
22:13to pretend to do these other things or do these other things because I'm supposed to look
22:17strong.
22:18This is sheer lunacy.
22:19China makes almost 50% of the ingredients that go into every antibiotic sold in the United
22:28States.
22:30The F-35, I'm reading from today's Financial Times.
22:34The F-35, the backbone of the U.S. Air Force, requires rare earth components only from China.
22:41And China owns close to a billion dollars, excuse me, close to a trillion dollars of United
22:49States bonds.
22:51Didn't anybody point these things out to him before he imposed a 145% tariff on all goods
22:58coming in from China?
23:00Look, a lot of people don't like Musk, but I think Musk made some rather unkind remarks
23:06about Mr. Navarro.
23:08And again, I go back to the statement that came from someone, I can't remember the name
23:12of the gentleman that hire clowns, you get a circus.
23:15I mean, it doesn't look to me like anybody's done their homework at all.
23:21Everything is done impulsively.
23:22Everyone is flying from the seat of their pants, most of all the president.
23:26And the president needs to surround himself with better, more capable, more cautious people
23:31who are going to study these things.
23:34Again, the lesson of history is you always measure what you might gain by what you might
23:39lose before you do anything, most of all in a war.
23:42And most of the time, it makes no sense to turn to the military option because once you
23:48do, everything is off, is out of your control.
23:53You don't, you can't contain these things.
23:55You don't know where things will go next.
23:57And yet you have foolish people left and right who want to bomb things.
24:01I mean, how many times have we talked about the strategic realities that currently induce
24:07the Russians to support Iran?
24:10People don't understand that if you're a Russian, you look south, you look into Iran, you look
24:14towards the Caucasus, you want friendly states down there.
24:17You want peace down there because that's the soft underbelly of Russia.
24:22That's as important to them as Mexico is to us.
24:26And right now, they're worried that we're going to try and destroy the Iranian regime
24:31for Mr. Netanyahu.
24:32It's not enough.
24:32Remember, Mr. Netanyahu wants the Libyan solution for Iran.
24:38And replacing that government with what?
24:41Anything that could be hostile to Russia, presumably.
24:45And that's the last thing in the world the Russians want.
24:47They want to protect their southern borders.
24:49They want peace and stability down there.
24:52Look, this is just too dumb to repeat over and over and over again.
24:58But there is no strategic thinking in Washington.
25:01Everything is arrogance and ignorance on steroids.
25:05You know, you mentioned Senator McCain a few minutes ago.
25:09My friend Tom Woods was a big fan of yours once said, no matter who you vote for, you get
25:17John McCain.
25:18I guess it's because a lot of Americans are easily impressed with people who are loud and bloviate threats.
25:29I don't know how else to explain it.
25:31I mean, there's always been in the United States a certain number of people that I think belong to what I call the bombs away club.
25:38And they think if we're dropping bombs on somebody somewhere, that our greatness as a nation somehow or another is expressed.
25:45When in reality, you and I know that's not the case.
25:49What we should want is what we had before the Second World War.
25:52And that was a reputation in the world for fairness and decency.
25:57You know, as after World War I ended and the Versailles Treaty was underway, believe it or not, the delegation of Arabs from Syria wanted the United States to provide forces to come there and administer their country.
26:13They didn't want the British or the French.
26:15And the reason for that was very simple.
26:17We were not colonialists.
26:18We were not imperialists.
26:19And they viewed us as fair and just people.
26:24Well, I don't think the people of Syria or anywhere else in the Muslim world would want Americans on their soil ever, based upon what we've seen over the last 30 years.
26:33Do you?
26:34Fully agreed, Colonel.
26:36Colonel, thank you for your time.
26:37Thanks for accommodating my schedule today.
26:41We missed you last week, but it's such a joy to be able to pick your brain again.
26:45All the best.
26:45Judge, I have one last thing to point out to people.
26:48You know, in 1914, when war broke out, the British and the French ambassadors met immediately, and they both said the same thing to each other.
27:00The one person in Berlin who is most unhappy about this war is the Kaiser, because we all know war was the last thing he wanted.
27:10This is something he never wanted.
27:14Well, the rest of the story is very simple.
27:16He always had it within his power to stop it quickly, decisively, before it ever began.
27:23And he didn't do it.
27:25His chief of staff asked him on the eve of the German offensive into Belgium, or the Kaiser asked him, General, can I stop this?
27:35Well, the answer to that was, yes, he was a supreme warlord.
27:39But the general said, no, your majesty, I don't think we can stop it.
27:42Well, that's ridiculous.
27:43And that's what President Trump needs to think about, because effectively right now, he's in a similar position.
27:50He is more than just the run of a middle president.
27:53He is standing on the threshold of potential disaster.
27:57He can stop it.
27:59All he has to say is, no, it's over.
28:02Stop.
28:05Thank you for that, Colonel.
28:07We're going to take that clip and send it all over the place.
28:11It was dynamite.
28:14Thank you for your time.
28:15We'll see you again next week.
28:16All the best.
28:17As my relatives in Scotland say, drink heavily.
28:20Yeah.
28:22Bye.
28:23Bye.
28:23Thank you, Colonel.
28:24Coming up at 4 o'clock today, Professor Jeffrey Sachs, Judge Napolitano for Judging Freedom.

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