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00:00:00Over in the next couple of months as far as using InfoWars website name is concerned.
00:00:06That being said, I'm very optimistic about what's next, but it does require your support.
00:00:10And I care much more about the other news that I see all over the desk, that I hear about, that I witness, that I perceive, that I put together than the news about what's happening with my job or the news about what's happening with my network.
00:00:21Now, this whole story about shutting down InfoWars is something that's very relevant to you because it's an attack on freedom of the press.
00:00:27It's an attack on freedom of speech.
00:00:28It's the government weaponizing the civil courts in order to silence political dissidents.
00:00:33I mean, it's like I can't even believe if I hadn't worked here and witnessed it over the course of the last several years, last couple of years, two years now, I wouldn't even believe it, that it was possible for this level of depravity and corruption to exist.
00:00:46But here we are staring into the abyss and becoming incredibly enlightened as to the depths of the darkness.
00:00:53I mean, look, folks, when you have an organization or entities that have won a $70 million settlement from Remington, and then they've won a $1.2 to $1.5 billion judgment from Alex Jones and InfoWars,
00:01:09and you have a federal government with the audacity to say, hey, here's $4 million in grants.
00:01:13And we've got all the documents.
00:01:16We showed you all the notes.
00:01:17I'm going to do a video on it later.
00:01:19I'm breaking it down in three minutes.
00:01:21But the paper trail's there.
00:01:25I mean, this was a federally funded operation to shut down InfoWars because of its political positions, because it was holding the government accountable for its actions, its corruptions, calling all of its false flags.
00:01:35Just like Alex tonight called that unsingled in a mile, there's very likely going to be a false flag incident attacking American Mexicans or illegal migrants.
00:01:43I suspect it would be like in a Chicago or a San Francisco or a San Diego or an El Paso.
00:01:53I'm not sure where, but I totally agree with them.
00:01:55And that's just the kind of thing that they hate.
00:01:57You have to realize they're not shutting down Alex Jones because of anything that he got wrong.
00:02:00They're shutting down Alex Jones because of all the things that he got right and that he continues to get right.
00:02:09And we know it from the documents that we've got from the federal government itself.
00:02:12First of all, we had that blevis creature who was an FBI and CIA contractor leaking that they were trying to corral the plaintiffs against InfoWars, at least their lawyers, law firms against InfoWars, because they couldn't find any federal crime.
00:02:31Then we have the FOIA that I applied for last year for InfoWars, proving that InfoWars has been under a type three FBI assessment since December 10th of 2013.
00:02:40So they have been spying on us for 12 years.
00:02:44Then you see that the DOJ has funded over $4 million to the plaintiffs, and it all just comes together.
00:02:50There was a government conspiracy to shut down InfoWars, and it looks like they're going to be successful.
00:02:54They're not going to win the InfoWars, but they are eventually going to shut down InfoWars, it looks like.
00:03:00That's what I'm told.
00:03:00That's what I understand.
00:03:02And for what purpose?
00:03:03Well, maybe it's because we're fighting back against the depopulation agenda.
00:03:08Maybe it's because we're fighting back against globalism or the political class or the conglomeration of political power into one new world order government.
00:03:14Maybe it's because we just call them on their bluffs all the time.
00:03:17Where we know in advance that there's going to be assassination attempts on Donald Trump, where we know in advance that there's going to be surface-to-air missile attempts on Donald Trump, where we know in advance that they do succeed in killing Donald Trump.
00:03:29God forbid they do.
00:03:30That they're going to blame it on Iran to justify getting into war with Iran, and they're going to say that it's about protecting the only democracy in the region and our greatest ally.
00:03:36But really, it's just about a trade war that we're having with China right now.
00:03:40That's what these tariffs are about.
00:03:42The whole point of the tariffs was to have a targeted attack on China's economy while they're trying to subvert the dollar in the context of these escalations with Iran.
00:03:52All while we build up our strength in the Indo-Pacific region, because the IMEC corridor that competes with the Belt and Road Initiative starts in India, the Indo-Pacific region.
00:04:06And what we've seen here is a rapid push for depopulation, yes, because they want to reduce humanity to a manageable slave class under the technocratic political class elite, but also because all of the first world countries in the world are facing rapid depopulation already.
00:04:36In this condition has required that the technocrats and the political elite fund as much money as possible into artificial intelligence and robotics.
00:04:47Now, Japan's done a pretty good job with robotics.
00:04:49China is frantically trying to figure out how to replace its population because their labor force is totally eroding.
00:04:56And they do things like try to make this impact manifest in other parts of the country as well, parts of the world rather, as well, so that there's no competition for them.
00:05:08Well, if everybody's population is reducing, then that's fine.
00:05:10But they haven't been able to accomplish that in India for whatever reason.
00:05:13And so we're trying to divert all of our manufacturing to India, away from China, to make India the new China, because China, regardless of what happens with these tariffs, is not going to be able to fulfill the demand of the American market in the next 10 years or so because they're all aging out.
00:05:28So they do things in China like, I don't know, release a virus that pretty much only kills old people all over the entire world.
00:05:37Hoping, thinking, wishing that it would have had more of an impact than it did.
00:05:46And then our pharmaceutical industry installs this vaccine in us that is resulting in these turbo cancers, another angle on the depopulation right there.
00:05:58And while our population dwindles and shrinks, then the leftists and the Democrats use that as an excuse to just import as many migrants as possible, tens of millions, without being vetted into the United States of America.
00:06:09Because we have to have a tax base to prop up the political class, even if it means changing the whole face or identity of our culture.
00:06:16I mean, look at what has happened in Europe.
00:06:17I'm going to show you clip one here in a minute.
00:06:19The purpose of Islam.
00:06:21But look what's happened to Europe with the massive immigration, integration, importation of other cultures totally incompatible with the United Kingdom or with Ireland or with Scotland or with Germany.
00:06:33Let's watch one, please.
00:06:35If you read 5, 10, 15 books of Islamic law, they all say the exact thing.
00:06:42And that's this.
00:06:42The purpose of Islam is to establish a global Islamic state, a caliphate, and impose Sharia on everybody on earth.
00:06:50That's it.
00:06:51That's the end of the story.
00:06:52There's no other purpose.
00:06:53Is that something that every Muslim knows and understands or not?
00:06:57I doubt it.
00:06:59But if you look at Sharia, Sharia states that when the Islamic community, the Ummah, has the ability and the resources to wage jihad, they're mandated to.
00:07:15Well, there you have it.
00:07:16And it's funny because I posted a picture of my wife and I and Ian Carroll and his girlfriend last night.
00:07:23We had dinner together.
00:07:25And got like 6,500 lice.
00:07:28I thought I was going to get, you know, 500 or whatever.
00:07:30And there are so many people in the replies that think because I have Ian sitting next to me that I'm anti-Semitic, even though Ian isn't really anti-Semitic.
00:07:40He's just critical of Israel.
00:07:41And then on the other hand of it, there's a copy of Douglas Murray's book, War on the West, on the counter in that picture.
00:07:47And you have a whole group of people saying that, oh, you know, I just, I hate that I'm pro-Israel as a result.
00:08:00And the fact of the matter is, when you tell the truth, sometimes you only make enemies.
00:08:04Sometimes when you tell the truth, Pontius Pilate washes his hands and they hang you up on a tree.
00:08:09Sometimes.
00:08:10Fact of the matter is, I don't support either Israel or the Palestinians.
00:08:14I don't like the BS, Mossad, blackmail rings, which are really run by the CIA through Mossad, in my opinion.
00:08:21I don't like the fact that we're always getting roped into war after war, whether it's with Afghanistan, whether it's with Libya, whether it's with Iran, whether it's with Iraq, whether it's in Yemen.
00:08:31Whether it's in Ukraine.
00:08:33So I don't like that we're getting roped into war and our allies, Bibi Netanyahu and others, have the gall to come over to our country to talk about how important it is for us to get involved in wars.
00:08:43I don't like that, but I don't like the fact that in Palestine or Saudi Arabia or in Afghanistan or Iraq, 40% of everybody married is married to their first or second cousin.
00:08:50And it's resulted in mental illness and violence and behavior disorders that have caused extreme terrorism.
00:08:54I mean, people fly into buildings because their parents are cousins, folks.
00:08:57You get enough retard going on there, then you get enough cult religion going on there, and then enough desperation going on there.
00:09:05You're going to see a lot of crazy things.
00:09:07And I don't like the fact that they rape little boys because if you have gay sex with an adult, then you get stoned to death because that's homosexual.
00:09:13And if you cheat on your wife or have sex outside of marriage, well, then that's some form of adultery.
00:09:16So they stone you to death or her for sure.
00:09:19So they just bang little boys and then paint their nails to claim them.
00:09:22I mean, this is well-documented, folks.
00:09:23The boys who serve tea, the boys who dance in Afghanistan.
00:09:27So you think I'm pro-Palestine?
00:09:29Fuck no.
00:09:30Excuse me, guys.
00:09:32Think I'm pro-Israel?
00:09:32No.
00:09:33I'm just pro-America.
00:09:34I'm just America first.
00:09:35I don't want any of this trash imported into my country.
00:09:37I don't want any of the blowback from bombing these places indiscriminately.
00:09:40And I don't want to get into a war with Iran because there's some false flag that has tricked us that it happened.
00:09:47That there was an attack from Iran.
00:09:50But I want to show you Tim Dillon.
00:09:51This is clip six.
00:09:52I want to show you Tim Dillon.
00:09:53Talk about what's going on with Iran right now.
00:09:57And they've been talking about Iran since 2001.
00:10:01Iran.
00:10:01And in Long Island, you know, during the Iraq War, when everyone, including me, thought that was a great idea.
00:10:05Of course, my defense is that I was 17 and on cocaine.
00:10:08You know, you would bump into people and dunking donuts.
00:10:11And they would go, yeah, the real problem's Iran.
00:10:14They're going to go into Iran after Iraq.
00:10:17That's where they're going to go, to Iran.
00:10:19Because these people, these gremlins, these creatures that walk the earth have been filled with the idea that Iran is going to take their Levitt house in Levittown, Long Island.
00:10:34And that in order to stop that, we need a major war.
00:10:38This is what we've sold all these people, by the way.
00:10:40We've sold them this idea that, like, all of the threats that you're going to encounter in your life are from outside of the country.
00:10:47And it's caves.
00:10:48There are these people in caves plotting to destroy.
00:10:51But they're also really super sophisticated and brilliant and in caves, but really smart.
00:10:57And they're religious fundamentalists, but also futuristic tech geniuses.
00:11:01And they're able to do all kinds of things, like attack our country.
00:11:04And on the day when NORAD had scrambled all the planes, they picked the exact right money.
00:11:08It's wild what these people are able to do from a cave.
00:11:10It's really amazing.
00:11:11It is unreal what they're able to pull off from a cave.
00:11:14I mean, because they're all in caves, and they're all plotting to take the things from you.
00:11:20They're going to come in here somehow.
00:11:22Now, you would think, wouldn't it be easy to stop them from coming in here if we just didn't let a lot of people come in,
00:11:27if we tightened up security as to who could come in and who could go, whoa, that's silly.
00:11:31We can't do that.
00:11:33It's a global world.
00:11:34So then you go, okay, so then what do we have to do to make sure that no one attacks us?
00:11:39Well, we have to go around the world overturning their governments and convincing them all to love us.
00:11:44Oh, that seems so hard.
00:11:46It seems so much easier to just, like, make it harder to get into our country.
00:11:50Well, you'd think that, but actually the best course of action is to just go get these people to really love us and appreciate us.
00:11:56And how do we do that?
00:11:57Attack them.
00:11:58We attack them.
00:11:59What?
00:12:00We bomb their homes and families.
00:12:01And then the ones that are left alive realize how benevolent and good we are because we let corporations go in there and do things.
00:12:09Oh, okay.
00:12:11Has this ever worked?
00:12:12No.
00:12:13Right.
00:12:13Absolutely hysterical take from Tim Dillon here, by the way.
00:12:16And he's not wrong.
00:12:17But the real reason that we get involved in these wars in the Middle East is so we can ensure that oil is traded in U.S. dollars.
00:12:24And the real reason that we support terrorism in the Middle East, which we do, I mean, we did leave behind basically enough equipment for a whole terrorist army in Afghanistan in two days intentionally.
00:12:34So Iran would be able to get control of it and then sell it to terrorists so they could attack Israel because we wanted to provoke Israel.
00:12:41We wanted to justify Israel's response to just clean out the region and stabilize the region so we can establish the IMEC corridor through the Port of Haifa.
00:12:49And compete with China's trade.
00:12:52I mean, this all goes back to the dollar every single time.
00:12:55None of these problems would be manifest if we had honest money.
00:12:59All of our problems are because our money is a lie.
00:13:01And when you break one of the Ten Commandments, you experience the wrath of God as a result of that fundamental transgression.
00:13:14But it's not just the importation of radical Islam that we have to worry about in the United States or in Europe.
00:13:21Certainly have to worry about that.
00:13:22But there's this other bizarre sentiment going on here.
00:13:29So on the one hand, you have this kind of inbred cult religion that celebrates this pedophile.
00:13:35Can't even draw a picture of him because he's so perfect.
00:13:38That catalyzes pedophile like behavior.
00:13:40I've heard the stories from people who were over there personally in Afghanistan and Iraq who witnessed it.
00:13:46I've seen the documents.
00:13:47I looked the data.
00:13:48No Douglas Murray.
00:13:48I don't have to go to Afghanistan to know that it's a shithole.
00:13:51Very obvious.
00:13:52But then you have this bizarre, like, Israel can do no wrong mentality, Zionist mentality, that is just so irksome.
00:14:00I'm not anti-Semitic.
00:14:02Like I said before on air, I've never met a Jewish person in America that I didn't like.
00:14:06I have several Jewish friends, practicing and non-practicing alike.
00:14:10No problem with Jewish people.
00:14:12But Israel, which is a government organization, a government itself, a state,
00:14:18I've got some major problems with Israel and those who just unashamedly, unabashedly,
00:14:22support it no matter what?
00:14:25I don't have a problem with support in Israel, but you mean no matter what?
00:14:30Just blindly?
00:14:31Supporting another nation?
00:14:32Which is certainly as corrupt, if not more corrupt, than the United States,
00:14:35because it's constantly being bombed under pressure, experiencing civil war-like conditions,
00:14:40having changes in government, having just the most Machiavellian stuff you've ever seen at the highest levels of the state.
00:14:45People think Mossad controls everything.
00:14:49Their budget's like $3.5 to $4 billion a year.
00:14:52It's like one-fifth that of the CIA.
00:14:56We just use them to do our dirty work over there and on our own politicians.
00:14:59It's our CIA that's controlling our politicians through some of the things that you see from the Epsteins and others in blackmail.
00:15:04It's not them doing it.
00:15:05They've got no leverage.
00:15:06They're constantly under attack in relying on our funding in order to support them to keep them from being under attack.
00:15:12I think we were recently, we've been 50% of their entire military spending.
00:15:17So who controls who here?
00:15:20Doesn't make any sense.
00:15:21But we've got this other side of the story, which is clip number 14, where there's just the brazen advocacy for choosing Israelis over Christians anywhere else in the world.
00:15:37It's bizarre.
00:15:38Watch this.
00:15:39People say, well, why are you so bothered about Israel?
00:15:42And I hear that from the right.
00:15:45The left don't care.
00:15:46They know I'm beyond the saving.
00:15:48But on the right, I hear that.
00:15:52And I think they don't realize.
00:15:54They think it's some weird thing.
00:15:57Like, why is this small state?
00:15:59Why does it bother you?
00:16:02I don't think they've even remotely reflected on what I regard as the deepest reasons to care.
00:16:10It seems to me if, as you well know, Western civilization is based on the legacy of Athens and Jerusalem.
00:16:18Athens is under great assault always, but it's not actually under existential assault at the moment.
00:16:26What is being attempted by Israel's enemies is the philosophical and cultural equivalent of burning all the libraries of Alexandria.
00:16:39This is one of the underpinnings of Western civilization, utterly, utterly at risk.
00:16:50And not in a sort of metaphorical way where people might use it as a sort of book subtitle, but the real thing.
00:16:57I mean, I, you know, I've sometimes thought about it this way.
00:17:01I haven't tried this out in public before.
00:17:02How many Jews are there in the world?
00:17:06Fifteen million.
00:17:06Fifteen million, okay.
00:17:08This is, this is going to come, this may come across really coarse.
00:17:12But let me put it this way.
00:17:14I mean, there are lots of conflicts in the world, and I've covered a lot of conflicts involving a lot of people.
00:17:18But here it comes, listen.
00:17:20It's conceivable that at some point, 15 million Christians could be killed.
00:17:27It would be a disaster, a tragedy.
00:17:35It's conceivable that at some point, Burma, India, somewhere, 15 million Muslims could be killed.
00:17:43It would be a disaster, it would be a tragedy of an unimaginable scale, of mid-20th century scale.
00:17:50But if 15 million Jews were killed, that's the end of the story.
00:17:56That's it.
00:17:58Now, what does that mean for the Jewish people?
00:18:01It's, it's the end that the people who saw off everyone from Pharaoh to Hitler disappeared in the 21st century.
00:18:09Everyone else, in my view, wouldn't survive either.
00:18:16Wouldn't survive either.
00:18:18Western civilization could not survive the destruction of the Jewish state.
00:18:22Because it would be among much else.
00:18:24So what he's saying here is that the Jewish life is more precious than any other type of human life.
00:18:31Western civilization would die.
00:18:33So I regard the existential threat against the Jewish people to not just be about the Jewish people.
00:18:40It matters deeply to me that it is about the Jewish people.
00:18:43But it also matters to me because it's about America.
00:18:46Could America survive if the Jewish people were no more on its watch?
00:18:51Or everybody was forcibly deported from the Holy Land?
00:18:56Come on.
00:18:57Of course not.
00:18:57Could the isolationists bear the repercussions of that across the Middle East and elsewhere?
00:19:03Of course not.
00:19:05So I find this blitheness and the frivolity of it to be absolutely intolerable among the critics on the right.
00:19:14One of the things that's been so amazing about all of this is just the sense that the West has lost its moorings.
00:19:21I mean, I was more disturbed from a sort of Jewish perspective as a Jew.
00:19:25So I'm going to take it out from here.
00:19:29I don't blame Ben Shapiro for being Israel first.
00:19:32I mean, it's his religion.
00:19:33It's what he believes.
00:19:34It's his religion.
00:19:35It's faith.
00:19:35You can say that he's blackmailed or under control or anything.
00:19:37But I mean, look, there's videos of this guy playing the theme song from Schindler's List,
00:19:40which is a movie based off of a book that won the best fiction award in Los Angeles in the, what, 50s?
00:19:50When he was like 11 years old, like Larry King and everything.
00:19:52The guy, that's his religion.
00:19:53It's fine.
00:19:54What bothers me is when we have politicians that we elect, like the Dan Crenshaw's and
00:19:59Lindsay Graham's and the others, who are just unashamedly supporting another nation at the
00:20:05expense of our own.
00:20:05Now, I understand supporting another nation if it's necessary in order to prop up or sustain
00:20:09our own, and that's really kind of what's going on.
00:20:11But I'm unhappy with the fact that it requires us to fund and allow the death of hundreds
00:20:18of thousands, if not millions, if you count all the Middle Eastern wars that we've been
00:20:21in, of innocent people.
00:20:23And it catalyzes this hatred for the United States across the entire world that results
00:20:27in terrorist attack after terrorist attack.
00:20:29But then those attacks happen.
00:20:30Our innocent people die.
00:20:31And then they're used as an excuse to get us more involved.
00:20:33And it's just like this spiral that we have to get out of.
00:20:38And the only way that we're going to get out of it is if the truth is broadcast, if there's
00:20:41continuously freedom of speech on the Internet, if we're able to reach an audience and enlighten
00:20:47them and awaken them to what's really going on, because it's not immediately obvious to
00:20:51people who don't have enough time to pay attention.
00:20:52And unfortunately, because of inflation, because our money's a lie.
00:20:55You know that my overarching philosophy on this whole thing is that we're in a major currency
00:20:59war with China, China's demographic is imploding.
00:21:03Therefore, they're trying to get as much artificial intelligence as possible, as much robotics
00:21:07as possible, which is their interest in Taiwan for developing the chips necessary for that
00:21:11technology.
00:21:11They're simultaneously trying to establish a monopoly of trade in the hemisphere with the
00:21:16Belt and Road Initiative, which we're directly competing against, which is why we are interested
00:21:20in stabilizing Israel, because the IMEC corridor from India through Saudi Arabia into
00:21:27Israel is key to compete with the Belt and Road Initiative.
00:21:31So that's what these conflicts are really about.
00:21:33You hammer China with tariffs, everything becomes more expensive in China.
00:21:37If it's from China, at least in the United States, then it becomes more expensive.
00:21:40And so it forces the markets to figure out other places to supply our goods and services,
00:21:45because China's imploding.
00:21:47So India is an example of one that'll probably get a lot of our manufacturing.
00:21:51Mexico will probably get a lot of our manufacturing.
00:21:52And so will the United States of America establish more domestic manufacturing.
00:21:58This is the economic strategy that's taking place.
00:22:02And China is trying to harass the development of the IMEC corridor by funding Iran, which
00:22:07in turn funds terrorism and assault and bombings on Israel.
00:22:11And to some extent, we have allowed that funding to take place.
00:22:14We've even left weapons behind in Afghanistan.
00:22:16So we catalyze major terrorist events like what we saw on Israel on October 7th, even though
00:22:20there was a seven-hour stand down from Israel to make it even more painful and atrocious
00:22:26what the terrorists were able to do.
00:22:28And that was used as an excuse to just wipe out basically all the surrounding terrorists
00:22:32in the region, along with their family and women and children.
00:22:37That pretty much sums it up.
00:22:38But as China is developing its own strategy, it's manifesting its own tactics to establish
00:22:46its own currency as the global reserve currency or its own economic prowess as the dominance
00:22:52of the 21st century in the way that the United States was dominating the 20th century, we've
00:22:57got a third party here.
00:22:58It's not just the United States versus China.
00:23:00It's the globalists as well.
00:23:01And the globalists do not support China.
00:23:03They do not support Russia because China and Russia demand their own national sovereignty.
00:23:09As corrupt as they are, they don't want to be under the control of the globalists.
00:23:11In fact, they've been at war with the globalists for quite some time, basically the last ever
00:23:16since globalists have existed in one way or another.
00:23:18So you've got this global cabal trying to establish its own central bank digital currency
00:23:23coming from the International Monetary Fund, the International Bank of Settlements, manifesting
00:23:28this strategy through World Economic Forum, the United Nations, NATO, and other organizations
00:23:32like that.
00:23:34Then you've got China trying to just make its own digital currency become the new global
00:23:38reserve currency.
00:23:38And you've got the United States trying to protect the dollar as the global reserve currency.
00:23:41So there's three parties at war right now.
00:23:44There is a global economic world war happening right now.
00:23:48Hasn't really turned into a hot war yet, but it pretty much has if you look at these conflicts
00:23:52that are bubbling up in the Middle East.
00:23:53And even Ukraine is tied into this as well.
00:23:57Because if Russia takes over Ukraine, then they can divert Ukraine's agricultural exports away
00:24:01from Europe, weakening and crippling Europe into China.
00:24:04So China becomes independent of the United States agricultural exports, which it's currently
00:24:08dependent on.
00:24:09And that positions China to be less dependent on the U.S. and therefore capable of being
00:24:12in a hot war with the U.S.
00:24:15That's why we're really involved in Ukraine.
00:24:17That's why we're really involved in Israel.
00:24:19That explains all of it.
00:24:20But what the globalists are doing is they're also trying to sabotage the dollar while simultaneously
00:24:25sabotaging Russia and China through NATO, these other organizations, these conflicts
00:24:31that are taking place.
00:24:32And they want Donald Trump assassinated and they want Iran blamed for it so that we can
00:24:36weaken each other.
00:24:37So China and the United States can weaken each other and they can usher in their solution.
00:24:41And that's one of the reasons why they selected Mark Carney to be the leader of Canada so that
00:24:45he could manifest this strategy and execute this aspect or avenue of the trade war, economic
00:24:51war, currency war, whatever you want to call it, on the United States.
00:24:54So let's go to clip number three of Peterson talking about Carney and how he will destroy
00:25:00Canada.
00:25:01And then we're going to unpack it on the other side.
00:25:02So if that is like, did you know any of these things about Carney that I just described?
00:25:08And if you didn't know them, well, why didn't you know them?
00:25:10And well, part of the reason for that is, well, Carney hasn't told anyone, although he did
00:25:13write the book Values, but who's read that, right?
00:25:16But I read it and I understood it and I'm doing my best to explain to you what it meant.
00:25:21He's got the wrong idea about Canadian values because we're not a fundamentally utopian,
00:25:29socialist, elitist, top-down, central planning society.
00:25:36We're a Western democracy.
00:25:37And the principles that Carney outlined as cardinal values of Canadians are not the cardinal
00:25:43values of Canadians.
00:25:45And it's an interesting thing for the bloody liberals to do anyways, because under Trudeau,
00:25:49we heard nothing but the proclamation that Canada had no core set of values and that we
00:25:53were really a post-national state.
00:25:55And that insofar as we had any national identity at all, it was mostly that of genocidal, capitalist,
00:26:01patriarchal oppressors.
00:26:02And so I don't understand at all how the liberals under Carney, who's certainly not an outsider,
00:26:08could be waving the flag of Canadian virtue at this point, while also proclaiming that
00:26:14they've got their finger on what the Canadian core values are, translated into DEI and ESG
00:26:21and net zero, which are radical leftist, globalist, utopian, top-down, central planning dogmas
00:26:27that are incredibly expensive and truly ill-advised.
00:26:31Now, Carney, as far as I can tell, would rather that you didn't figure that out.
00:26:35And the reason for that is that he's riding high in the polls because Canadians look at
00:26:39his resume and they think he's qualified.
00:26:41And I can understand that because at the surface, his resume is impressive.
00:26:46But the question is, what has all that experience taught him?
00:26:50Well, it's taught him to be elitist to the extreme.
00:26:52It's taught him that him and his cabal of compatriots at the globalist level know better
00:26:57than you dim-witted peasants who are going to have to pay the price for his utopian vision.
00:27:03And it's taught him that, well, the environmental crisis is so terrible, that's the carbon dioxide
00:27:08problem, that it's up to a handful of globalist elites to take the steps necessary to put things
00:27:13right.
00:27:13And if that means that the typical Canadian has to be made poor, well, that's going to
00:27:19happen anyways as the planet boils.
00:27:21And besides that, you peasants are too dim-witted to understand the nature of the, what would
00:27:26you say, existential threat that confronts you.
00:27:28And it's too bad for you that your children are going to be poor because you need that.
00:27:33We need that to save the planet anyways as we jet off.
00:27:36Peasants is the right word there for how the globalists perceive all of us, the Canadians,
00:27:41the Americans, the Russians, the Chinese, certainly the third world, basically every nation of Africa
00:27:47is perceived that way.
00:27:48It is a neo-feudalism.
00:27:49It is a neo-fiefdom that they're trying to establish.
00:27:54And I've said it before, I'll say it again, globalism is simply the merger of Marxism and
00:28:00fascism.
00:28:01It's got all of the controls in place and the genocides in place of fascism.
00:28:07And it's got all of the cultural revolution and psychological brainwashing and manipulating
00:28:11of Marxism.
00:28:13And they whittle down your culture by just degrading you and bullying you with ESG, environmental
00:28:18sustainability and governance scores, which they use as an excuse not to fund your businesses,
00:28:22which they use as an excuse to only fund the globalist entities so they can conglomerate
00:28:25the entire financial market.
00:28:27Then they've got the diversity, equity and inclusions, which they can use to shame you for
00:28:31the sins of your ancestors, which may or may not have even taken place, and then make
00:28:35you somehow feel guilty about your racial identity in a form of ancestral worship.
00:28:41So through ESG, they're establishing a cult of nature that worships nature.
00:28:45And through DEI, they establish a cult of ancestry, like something you'd see from thousands of years
00:28:51ago, a false idol of ancestor worship, where some of your ancestors are better than others.
00:28:55And if you belong into this subset or this identity politics, then you're superior to others.
00:28:59And then there you have two massive false idols that are being worshipped all while it's
00:29:05being funneled into your mind and brainwashed into you that God does not exist.
00:29:09Injustice can only be manifest through a globalist state.
00:29:12That's what the globalists have done.
00:29:15They have weaponized the brainwashing, the war on your mind of communism, and then they've
00:29:21weaponized the war on the economy and financial institutions and freedoms of fascism.
00:29:26And they found a way to make these two incompatible philosophies merge into the worst of both worlds
00:29:33while totally eroding and disregarding all notions of nationalism or populism whatsoever.
00:29:37And now that there's this populist awakening taking place the world over, whether it's
00:29:41in Italy, whether it's in the United States, whether it's even in Canada, whether it's
00:29:45in Germany right now, whether it's in the United Kingdom where you see the protests happening
00:29:49right now, there's this massive populist awakening.
00:29:51And they're trying to escalate the ramifications of this trade war because they want the economic
00:29:57collapse to take place under a Trump presidency in the midst of a populist revolution so they
00:30:02can blame populism for the collapse that they themselves have manufactured with years and
00:30:06years of preparation, decades and decades of preparation, an inevitable collapse created
00:30:10by fiat currency and Federal Reserve central banking, fractional reserve banking systems,
00:30:16which are themselves Ponzi schemes.
00:30:18I mean, literally, with a fractional reserve banking system, there will always be more debt
00:30:23than there is money.
00:30:24It is a Ponzi scheme.
00:30:26It will collapse.
00:30:26And now they're trying to control when it happens so they can exploit that crisis that
00:30:31will result in the death of billions upon billions of people in order to leverage themselves
00:30:35in to total power.
00:30:39I mean, you realize that we're not less vulnerable because we're taking power back right now.
00:30:44We're more vulnerable because anything that happens can then be blamed on us and our movement.
00:30:49And if we fall for it, then it's our own fault, which is why enlightenment and awakening
00:30:55is so possible.
00:30:56I mean, look, you want an example of Mark Carney proving that he's a globalist, that he's
00:30:59a fascist and a Marxist all at the same time.
00:31:01Just look at clip number 21 here.
00:31:03This is him saying they're going to ban X to Canada if he wins.
00:31:05And he's not explicitly necessarily saying it.
00:31:07Maybe he is.
00:31:08But I mean, isn't it obvious?
00:31:09Let's watch.
00:31:12Large American online platforms have become seas of racism, misogyny, anti-Semitism, Islamophobia
00:31:18and hate in all its forms.
00:31:21And they're being used by criminals to harm our children.
00:31:25My government will act.
00:31:30And today we're announcing our plan to fight crime, to protect Canadians and to build communities
00:31:36that are safe, secure and strong.
00:31:38A plan to make Canada secure, to make Canada strong.
00:31:42Yeah, we're going to make Canada strong by censoring freedom of speech and just totally collapsing
00:31:48its economy in a trade war with the United States so that we can usher in a new globalist
00:31:51takeover of all monetary policy the world over.
00:31:53I'm such a good guy.
00:31:55I was I was involved in leadership in the Bank of Canada and I was involved in leadership
00:31:59in the Bank of England and I was a founding member of the World Economic Forum and I love
00:32:03the Bilderberg group.
00:32:05And I was educated in Ivy League schools in the United States.
00:32:08Plus, I was educated in in very bushy schools in the United Kingdom.
00:32:10So I'm probably a royalist as long as the royal family is inbred and demonic.
00:32:16This guy, man, he's bad news and he's a threat because he's smart and he's disciplined.
00:32:22I mean, he's a marathon runner.
00:32:24He's incredibly well educated.
00:32:25He's incredibly well versed.
00:32:26I mean, this guy is a major, major threat.
00:32:30And this is all happening in the context of the Scott Galloways and others.
00:32:32I can clip 23.
00:32:33I'm going to show in a moment talking about how we shouldn't be bringing manufacturing back
00:32:37to the United States of America.
00:32:38For what purpose would you want to make the United States of America as dependent as possible
00:32:43on other nations?
00:32:44Let's watch.
00:32:47It would be hard to think of a more elegant way to reduce prosperity this fast.
00:32:53Let's talk about Apple.
00:32:55The notion was we're going to bring back all those great jobs.
00:32:58The average Apple assembly person in China makes $500 a month.
00:33:02The average Apple employee focusing on more high value things like design, store management
00:33:06makes $200,000 a year here.
00:33:09We want to wear Nikes.
00:33:11We don't want to make them.
00:33:12We have outsourced low wage jobs overseas such that we can create more profits, more investments
00:33:17and create higher wage jobs.
00:33:19If these tariffs hold, your iPhone is going to go from $1,000 to $2,300.
00:33:24To make an iPhone in the US, it would cost $3,500.
00:33:27As a result, the threats of these tariffs take Apple stock down the value of Walmart in three
00:33:33days, if these tariffs hold, 80% of toys under the Christmas tree are from China.
00:33:40So 90% of US households are budget constrained.
00:33:44So we're talking about half the number of toys.
00:33:46We're talking about a destruction in shareholder value such that your parents can't retire as
00:33:50quickly.
00:33:51And we're talking about the entire world rerouting their supply chain around brand America, which
00:33:56quite frankly, right now is toxic uncertainty.
00:33:59So they can bypass a series of unpredictable, epileptic, sclerotic decisions.
00:34:05But we finally need to acknowledge we have someone at the wheel of the global economy.
00:34:11Here's what he's not telling you.
00:34:14First of all, if we're manufacturing our stuff here, then that's more jobs, better paying
00:34:17jobs, higher jobs here in the United States.
00:34:19And so even if the cost did go up, the price did go up with some of these goods, we're
00:34:22talking about a more prosperous nation that's able to afford it.
00:34:25That's the first thing.
00:34:25Second thing he's doing is he's literally advocating for outsourcing slavery or slave
00:34:30labor to other nations so that we can have more profit and investment here in the United
00:34:33States of America.
00:34:34I mean, that's like the worst argument ever.
00:34:37Look, these little children in China with their little fingers manipulating the iPhone that
00:34:42they're building for you, they're so much better at it.
00:34:44It's so much cheaper.
00:34:45And we love the fact that when they jump out of the building, they have to be caught in
00:34:48nets to survive.
00:34:49I mean, this is so good for America that we're having children in cobalt mines outsource
00:34:54and export this raw lithium ion material to the iPhone factories where the slave children
00:35:00work.
00:35:01I mean, what are we going to do without slavery?
00:35:03I mean, he's making the same argument that the South made about slavery before its secession.
00:35:08And I know that the Civil War is complicated, and I understand that it wasn't just about
00:35:11slavery.
00:35:12And I don't even think that the Confederates were bad.
00:35:14I disagree with slavery, but I don't think that they're just some group that we should
00:35:17always thumb our nose at or look down upon because they advocated for something that was
00:35:21morally atrocious.
00:35:22No nation or individual is as bad as the worst thing that they've ever done.
00:35:26But it's hard to say that the Civil War wasn't about slavery.
00:35:29I don't care who says it, whether it's Darren McBreen or Alex Jones says that it wasn't about
00:35:32slavery.
00:35:33When you read the letters of secession from the states, and slavery is mentioned in all
00:35:38of them, it's obvious that slavery had at least something significant to do with it.
00:35:43And that was part of what they were advocating, these Southern states, when they declared Civil
00:35:47War.
00:35:47And I don't believe in support that Tyron Abraham Lincoln, you can read his speeches when he
00:35:51was debating Douglas, and the things that he said were abundantly racist.
00:35:55Like, I don't believe that there should ever be intermarriage between white people and
00:35:58black people.
00:35:58Everyone thinks that Abraham Lincoln is some sort of moral hero, and he was really just
00:36:02a shitbag tyrant who exploited this moral argument in order to empower the federal government
00:36:10and reduce the rights of states.
00:36:12I mean, he even tried to impose an income tax on the United States of America when it was
00:36:16explicitly illegal.
00:36:17And the Supreme Court ruled that an income tax was against the Constitution, so they amended
00:36:21the Constitution as a result to kick back to his tyrannical policies.
00:36:24He's not a good guy.
00:36:26I'm sorry.
00:36:27He's just not that good of a guy.
00:36:28So I'm not on either side here, just like with Palestine or Israel, just like with the
00:36:33north or the south.
00:36:34But we have this guy up here advocating that we use slavery overseas because it's better
00:36:41for our bottom line here.
00:36:42And what he's not telling you is that the Chinese labor market is imploding in size, and so their
00:36:47labor costs are skyrocketing because there's fewer of them to work.
00:36:51And right now, for example, in Mexico, labor costs like one third of what it costs in China,
00:36:56I'm told by the research that I've looked at.
00:36:59So why don't we just do it in Mexico then?
00:37:01Fine.
00:37:01Don't bring it back here.
00:37:02Why don't we do it in India then?
00:37:04And it's just manipulative BS that you see on the likes of The View.
00:37:08I know nobody watches The View except for people who make fun and terrorize its cliffs.
00:37:11And yes, we might see some increase in cost for a short period of time.
00:37:15But man, if we don't diversify where we're supplying our goods, then in 10 years when
00:37:20there's nobody in China to make the goods, it's going to be terrible.
00:37:22And if we allow China to have the robotics and the artificial intelligence in place to
00:37:26actually supply the labor, then we have a massive CCP problem because it's going to
00:37:30be a small number of these Chinese communists who have a total monopoly of global trade and
00:37:37basically no overhead because of the robotics and the artificial intelligence, I mean, this
00:37:41is a major existential threat to the United States.
00:37:43But I guess we should just keep funding them.
00:37:45I guess we should just keep pouring all of our money into China so they can dictate what
00:37:48Hollywood produces because Hollywood is so dependent on the Chinese market to consume
00:37:52its films.
00:37:53And so all of our children are exposed to communist crap all the time.
00:37:55I guess we can just fund the development of apps like TikTok so our kids get brainwashed
00:37:59into cutting off their genitals or taking puberty blockers.
00:38:02I guess we can just fund the military development of China so they can become an even more powerful
00:38:06nuclear power while they expand the fact that they can produce ships at a 300 to 1 rate
00:38:11to the United States.
00:38:11And all of their commercial ships are designed to be military grade so they can be converted
00:38:15in military machines immediately if we get into a conflict.
00:38:18I guess we should just allow China to continue to exploit the Panamanians or exploit all the
00:38:22people throughout Africa and establish these trade routes and then force Chinese labor in
00:38:26on these countries and just make them totally vulnerable and dependent on Chinese debt.
00:38:30I mean, I guess we should just allow this to happen.
00:38:33It's unbelievable to me.
00:38:35And now it's not just the Chinese threat, but the fact that the Chinese have been perpetuating
00:38:39and hoping for this depopulation crisis the world over.
00:38:43And this inflation of our monetary system has caused this depopulation crisis the world
00:38:49over.
00:38:49We have this massive erosion and watering down of Western civilization wherever you could
00:38:54possibly look.
00:38:55I mean, look at this point from J.D.
00:38:57Vance.
00:38:57This is clip number 19.
00:38:59J.D.
00:38:59Vance blew my mind with this point that he made that I just saw.
00:39:03And I'd never thought of it this way, even though I've been dancing around this issue
00:39:06for an extended period of time.
00:39:07Let's watch what he says.
00:39:08I was talking with a friend recently and we were talking about, you know, one of the big
00:39:14dangers in the world, of course, is nuclear proliferation, though, of course, the Biden
00:39:17administration doesn't care about it.
00:39:19And I was talking about, you know, what is the first truly Islamist country that will
00:39:25get a nuclear weapon?
00:39:26And we were like, maybe it's Iran, you know, maybe Pakistan already kind of counts.
00:39:29And then we sort of finally decided, maybe it's actually the UK since labor just took
00:39:33over.
00:39:35But it's not funny.
00:39:39It's not funny.
00:39:41I get why people laugh.
00:39:43We think about the United Kingdom, we think about princes and princesses and kings and queens
00:39:48and storied history of Anglo-Saxon development and the English world and the English empire
00:39:52and King George and the funny outfits and the vain sophistication.
00:39:57We think about the Douglas Murrays and their accents and the wonderful intelligentsia.
00:40:03You know, I was sitting with a friend recently having a spotty saying we should try to coax
00:40:07the United States into a war on behalf of Israel because this is a war for the way.
00:40:11I mean, just BS.
00:40:12Like, I hate how people think that just because they hear that accent, there's something sophisticated
00:40:15being said or intelligible.
00:40:17And what's really a shame is not when retards make retarded arguments.
00:40:21What's a shame is when smart people lower themselves to retarded ad hominem arguments.
00:40:26When they talk about if you're not an expert in something, you shouldn't be able to have
00:40:29an opinion about it.
00:40:30Or if you've never been to a country, you shouldn't be able to have an opinion about
00:40:32it.
00:40:35I guarantee you that Douglas Murray had an opinion about every country that he ever traveled
00:40:39to before he traveled to those countries.
00:40:40I guarantee you his opinion about the shape of the moon or the moon's hollow or whether
00:40:44we land on the moon.
00:40:45I don't think he's ever been to the moon before.
00:40:46It's unbelievable the audacity of these globalist elites, of these political elites to just
00:40:54sell out to the interests of globalist organizations, globalist political prolification, or just straight
00:41:02up sell out to the CCP.
00:41:03I mean, you have somebody going on the view and advocating for the exploitation of child
00:41:10labor and grotesque poverty rates because it's so good for investors in the United States
00:41:18of America and middle class Americans can't afford to stomach the cost.
00:41:23Middle class Americans cannot afford to allow the United States to become dependent on a nation
00:41:29who hates us, who is trying to totally erode and eradicate our economy in the coming 10,
00:41:3520, 30, 40 years.
00:41:37Just because you can get a toy car for a little bit cheaper now by doing that.
00:41:43These short-term gains with these long-term expenses are existential.
00:41:47I mean, literally doing business with China is the equivalent of smoking two packs of cigarettes
00:41:52every day.
00:41:52You might like it now, might feel good now, might be relaxing and enjoyable now.
00:41:56You might love it during your break, at lunch or whatever, but eventually you're going to
00:42:01have some health problems as a result of it that could, in fact, result in your death.
00:42:06That's what we're doing as a nation when we sell out our morality, when we sell out to
00:42:10these interests, when we prop up our enemies.
00:42:12I mean, the CCP hates us and our way of life, and we will give them total dominance if we
00:42:18continue to fund them and do business with them extensively.
00:42:20I mean, even the Globus were freaked out when they looked at what the CCP was able to accomplish
00:42:23in the Olympics in, what was it, 2008?
00:42:26Can't remember.
00:42:27It was major Chinese Olympics with the spectacle, and everyone was like, oh my God, I think
00:42:30maybe we've awoken a sleeping giant in China now.
00:42:35And it's not just that, but they're literally doing things like sending their military in
00:42:39order to fight wars that we're involved in through proxy.
00:42:41They're funding Iran, like I've said.
00:42:44They're sending spies over here to sleep with our politicians.
00:42:46They're sending students over here to steal all of our stuff.
00:42:48They've got 30,000 military-aged men who just crossed the border over the course of the
00:42:52last four years in the United States.
00:42:53Biden allowed it to happen because he sold out to the CCP at least 10 years ago.
00:42:57Let alone COVID.
00:42:59Like, every single thing that has changed the face of our nation in the last 10 years has
00:43:06been told to us in one way by the experts, and then it has come out that they were lying
00:43:11to us for profit or lying to us for the government or lying to us for an agenda.
00:43:14And so the argument is at face incredibly disingenuous.
00:43:20But it's also, it's just as a younger brother and as a, you know, kind of a freedom maximalist
00:43:24my whole life, it always just irked me too when people try to pretend like they're more
00:43:30entitled or they're more qualified or they're more expert just because of some title, degree,
00:43:36piece of paper, or whatever it is.
00:43:39Because if you are an expert, you don't need to tell anyone.
00:43:44If you're an expert, you can show everyone by winning the debate on logic and reason alone.
00:43:50The same goes for fitness.
00:43:52You don't need to tell anyone how fit you are.
00:43:54You can just show them by going and being fit and winning the race or winning the game
00:43:58or whatever it is.
00:43:59And I've always felt like there, and this is sort of a more zoomed out version is that
00:44:04you should never as a man or a woman, as a person trying to be great, you should never
00:44:09go around trying to tell people how great you are.
00:44:12Because if you're great, just go do the things that are great.
00:44:16And other people will tell people how great you are.
00:44:18You can always tell you're talking to a person that is subpar because they'll tell you how
00:44:23great they are and they'll be the one that's trying to tell you about all of their achievements
00:44:27and no one else will be telling you.
00:44:29So the inverse is also true, that when everyone else tells you how great someone is and you
00:44:34meet them and they're incredibly humble and they aren't talking about themselves, but
00:44:37instead they're doing things in there, that is immediately impressive and inspiring.
00:44:41And so the way that Douglas approached that debate, I think that for anyone with any serious
00:44:48level of intellect, it just felt hollow and it felt disingenuous and it felt conniving
00:44:54and slimy, especially so.
00:44:58Did you know about him before?
00:44:59Yeah, I knew of him before, but I'm not familiar with his work like you are.
00:45:02I've never read his books.
00:45:03I've seen his reporting.
00:45:05And now that I am looking into his books, they're hilarious.
00:45:08Like his very first one, neoconservativism and why we need it.
00:45:12A, neoconservativism, let's shill for that.
00:45:15But B.
00:45:15But it was back in 2004 when neocons were still cool.
00:45:17Well, here's the thing.
00:45:18Back in 2004, how old was Douglas Murray?
00:45:20I don't know.
00:45:21About 25 years old.
00:45:22Yeah.
00:45:22And so read through that book.
00:45:24And I imagine that in that book, like you think he's at 25 years old, he's an expert
00:45:27on every topic that he approaches.
00:45:28Well, he's only got a bachelor's degree in English.
00:45:30I know, right?
00:45:31So not that I care because I'm with you.
00:45:33I don't really believe in the notion of experts.
00:45:36Maybe I do for more obvious technical things.
00:45:41Like you can be an expert very objectively in engineering or an oil on canvas painting
00:45:45or in sculpting or in architecture.
00:45:47I mean, it's very obvious to determine who's an expert in architecture and who isn't.
00:45:51And like maybe taking advice from someone who's built a lot of buildings is reasonable
00:45:55to a non-negotiable degree.
00:45:58When you're talking about experts in interpreting science or you're talking about experts in
00:46:02determining what's true, like Socrates is the most famous philosopher of all time through
00:46:08Plato.
00:46:09And Socrates, this whole entire philosophy was like, all I know is that I know nothing.
00:46:12This whole thing was like, I'm not an expert.
00:46:14And that's what made him such an expert, right?
00:46:15And Douglas Murray is doing the opposite thing here.
00:46:17In fact, I want to show clip number 15.
00:46:19This is Douglas Murray versus Douglas Murray on lived experience.
00:46:23It's a short little clip.
00:46:24Give you a sense a little bit of his hypocrisy.
00:46:26Have you been to the crossing points?
00:46:27I really resent that form of argumentation.
00:46:30When were you last there at all?
00:46:31Sure.
00:46:32I really resent it.
00:46:33You should at least do the courtesy of visiting it.
00:46:35This is not an attractive invitation.
00:46:37I think it's a good idea to see stuff, particularly if you spend a career talking about something.
00:46:41I have the right to talk about whatever the hell I want, and no one's going to stop me or
00:46:45try to intimidate me.
00:46:46And I think that if I said to somebody else the other way around, it would be equally reprehensible.
00:46:51I have a journalistic rule of trying never to talk about a country, even in passing,
00:46:55unless I've at least been there.
00:46:56If I said, shut up, you have no right to criticize anything that Douglas Murray says because-
00:47:00Hang on, you're talking about crossing points.
00:47:03And not only have you never been to a crossing point in either Egypt or in Israel,
00:47:06but you've never even been to the region.
00:47:08Okay, it's not an exact comparison, but seriously, is that a reasonable form of argument?
00:47:14No.
00:47:14In that case, nobody can talk about anything.
00:47:17We might as well pack up, go home, and isolate ourselves.
00:47:21If you're insisting that you're an expert of some kind, or not claiming you're an expert,
00:47:26but still talking about it, if you've never seen any of this going on-
00:47:31I mean, there are some people who've written about the-
00:47:32I mean, there are people who've written about the Holocaust who didn't experience the Holocaust,
00:47:36and have written about it better than people who did.
00:47:38But that is a different matter from spending an awfully long amount of time
00:47:44talking about an issue in a region you haven't even had the courtesy to visit
00:47:52whilst developing all of these views about it.
00:47:56This idea that the lived experience has to triumph over everything else is not always correct.
00:48:03You should at least know what it is, what the territory is, what the situation is in the region.
00:48:07There's an irony to this, but let's skate over the irony.
00:48:10Unbelievable, man.
00:48:11And do you think he just kind of, like, impulsively went to that argument
00:48:15because he knew he was getting his ass kicked, or what?
00:48:16I can't imagine that he wasn't preparing for this.
00:48:19Like, he clearly-
00:48:20You don't debate Dave Smith without preparing on anything.
00:48:22And this is apparently the best he could do.
00:48:25So first of all, how incredibly elitist of him to think that, like,
00:48:28how you have to be able to afford to travel all around the world
00:48:32before you're allowed to have an opinion on the world?
00:48:33Right.
00:48:34Excuse me, Douglas.
00:48:35And secondly, Douglas, your trip to Gaza was an IDF propaganda tour
00:48:39sponsored by the IDF where they've toured you in to sit in a cute chair,
00:48:42and, like, that is not experiencing Gaza.
00:48:45And there's a very different type of traveling when you go somewhere
00:48:47and experience the local culture, and you live with the locals,
00:48:50and you actually meet people and engage with their way of life
00:48:53versus getting a sponsored tour by some tour guide
00:48:56or by some tourist, you know, or by the IDF themselves.
00:49:00So that's retarded.
00:49:02Yeah, like, I went to Hawaii for my honeymoon.
00:49:03I stayed in a very nice hotel.
00:49:05It was the Four Seasons in Maui.
00:49:07It was just obnoxious how nice it was.
00:49:08And we went to a hukilao.
00:49:10All of it was on the property.
00:49:11I don't feel like I've ever really been to Hawaii, like, with the locals.
00:49:15Mahalo, bro.
00:49:15You know what I mean?
00:49:16I was there for a week, and I was basically in, you know,
00:49:19stateside United States on one property the whole time,
00:49:22and I had different food, and I experienced the weather and the ocean,
00:49:25and I did, like, a car ride around.
00:49:26I had the banana bread.
00:49:27But I have no idea what it's like to actually be Hawaiian.
00:49:30But then there's a second layer of this expert thing that we all know by now,
00:49:34but it's important to articulate that when you're talking about information expertise,
00:49:41it's not like being an expert sculptor where the sculpting skill is developed over time,
00:49:47and it is inherently developed correctly because the sculptures are coming out better and better and better.
00:49:51With information expertise, you don't necessarily have confirmation that you're on the right track
00:49:57in all of your presumptions and all of your base knowledge unless, like,
00:50:01because sometimes you realize that we had something wrong.
00:50:03Like, we did not know that there was this giant pedophile ring run by Jeffrey Epstein
00:50:07targeting all of our government officials until he was caught and exposed.
00:50:11Alex knew.
00:50:12Some people knew in advance.
00:50:13But there are certain suppositions that might have to be rearranged,
00:50:17and often there's people that are just wrong about base suppositions about how the world works
00:50:22or about how the financial system works, how the CIA works, how our government works.
00:50:26And so if you're an expert all the way to your PhD and you got all this education
00:50:32and all this experience, it does not matter if all of that is based on the supposition
00:50:36that the government is fundamentally not corrupt or based on the supposition
00:50:39that our bureaucrats are fundamentally trying to do what's best for us.
00:50:44So there are experts that have a skewed understanding of all of reality,
00:50:49despite all the hours they've studied, all the things they've done,
00:50:52because they don't understand the basic movers and levers of power in today's world.
00:50:56And so I would take the representation of someone that understands things like the CIA,
00:51:01human trafficking, politics, lobbying, all these sort of like corruption mechanisms
00:51:06that are kind of base layer to modern functioning, the modern world,
00:51:11over someone that has gotten a mainstream education for 20 years
00:51:15and never questioned a thing in their life.
00:51:17Because we know that the mainstream education system is paid for by all these corrupt systems
00:51:21in order to create worker drones like Douglas Murray.
00:51:24And so there's this base layer problem with his expert bias.
00:51:29And beyond that, the expert bias is sort of inherent to humanity
00:51:33in that when your job is to report on something every day,
00:51:36the more time you engage in that job,
00:51:39the more incentivized you are to not backtrack your thoughts if you got something wrong
00:51:44or to not rearrange.
00:51:45So suppose that Israel is the greatest thing ever and you're on Team Israel all the way.
00:51:50And then we find out, and suppose that we get like,
00:51:53suppose you needed more evidence that Jeffrey Epstein was at least in some way
00:51:56connected to Israeli intelligence, more than we already have.
00:52:00When that evidence comes out, you know,
00:52:02when we find out that Israel is running at least in part involved in
00:52:05this massive child trafficking blackmail operation targeting America,
00:52:09if you're so ensconced in your stance and your expert bias about how geopolitics
00:52:13in the Middle East works, that you're not willing to realize that
00:52:16you're about to justify child trafficking and blackmail and exploitation of children
00:52:21just to make it so you don't have to change your opinion,
00:52:24that is an inherent expert bias that is in all of us in every small way.
00:52:28So everyone on the internet, everyone on X, everyone on air,
00:52:31everyone on TV and radio, we all have to face that every day
00:52:34and have the humility to realize that you might be wrong about base layer suppositions.
00:52:38And it doesn't matter how much of an expert you've become
00:52:41because you're going to be wrong if you can't change your mind someday
00:52:44because we always get new information.
00:52:46Absolutely.
00:52:46Well, we were talking about this a little bit last night,
00:52:48and I mentioned that the real shame of it is that Douglas Murray
00:52:54was trying to make at least one or two really good points.
00:52:58Yep.
00:52:58And he was such a jerk about the way that he was doing it,
00:53:01and he did it in such an inconsistent, almost incoherent way that undermined him.
00:53:06And one of the ones was his main point, as I interpreted it,
00:53:10I could be mistaken about this.
00:53:11I can't speak for Douglas Murray, but his main point was, look,
00:53:15the left over the years has downplayed and reduced the crimes of major figures
00:53:22like Lenin or Stalin or Che Guevara, right?
00:53:26I mean, we see the posters with Che's face.
00:53:28We see the T-shirts with his face, and he was definitely a terrorist,
00:53:32like a terrible communist, right?
00:53:33And he's like, I'm worried, what he's trying to say is,
00:53:37I'm worried that on the right we'll make the same mistake that the left did
00:53:41by turning these people into heroes and being apologists for them.
00:53:45I'm worried that on the right there's a movement that is downplaying the things
00:53:49that Hitler or Mussolini did wrong,
00:53:51and it's going to cause the right to embrace fascism in the way that the left now
00:53:55has totally embraced Marxism.
00:53:57That's what I interpreted he was trying to say, which is a fairly good point.
00:54:00The problem was he was accusing people that aren't doing that of doing that,
00:54:04and then using this expert appeal to authority argument.
00:54:08So it's like, dude, that's a solid point, but if you make it that way,
00:54:11then no one's going to believe it, and he actually kind of did himself a disservice
00:54:14by making the point that way.
00:54:17Absolutely.
00:54:17I mean, there's a fundamental issue when the propaganda tactics of a side,
00:54:23in this case the pro-Israel side, is all too often to call just basic discussion
00:54:28of Israel's government policies like Nazism.
00:54:31And so if I am suddenly a Hitler supporter just because I have a criticism of Jeffrey Epstein,
00:54:37A, what?
00:54:39And B, you actually are incentivizing, especially young people,
00:54:43because young people are rebellious, and they're like, well, fuck, F you, right?
00:54:46And so you're incentivizing more people to actually just go to that side just to spite you.
00:54:51And so there's all this kind of conflicting theory in how you actually should be debating that.
00:54:57But you're right that we shouldn't be becoming the other evil just because this evil.
00:55:03There's a middle ground, and it's always impossible to stay in.
00:55:06But what you're also getting at is the fundamental flaw in Murray's approach to this is if you're an expert.
00:55:13So journalism is about communication, right?
00:55:15Just like teaching is, just like conversation is, when you're trying to convince someone of a truth,
00:55:21I mean, theoretically, journalism is reporting just on facts, but let's be real.
00:55:24These days, journalism is largely opinion programming.
00:55:26It's narrative spinning of whatever you believe is the right narrative
00:55:29or whatever you were paid to say is the right narrative.
00:55:31And so when communication is your job and you're a professional communicator,
00:55:35which Douglas Murray is theoretically a professional communicator of his ideas,
00:55:39that job means that you are supposed to understand your audience
00:55:42because communication is not what you're sending out.
00:55:44Communication is what they are receiving.
00:55:46You need to be thinking about how your audience is receiving you.
00:55:49And so if Douglas Murray is not capable of understanding Joe Rogan's audience
00:55:52and understanding that Joe Rogan's entire platform,
00:55:54the reason why he has the biggest platform in the world is because he doesn't do that shit.
00:55:59He does not gatekeep.
00:56:00He doesn't play these stupid games with ideas and censorship.
00:56:06It's woke in a lot of ways.
00:56:08And the reason why that platform is the number one is because they don't do it.
00:56:12And so when Douglas Murray goes on that platform and acts like this stuck-up gatekeeper of information,
00:56:17which contradicts himself in a lot of ways, it just falls completely flat.
00:56:22And it in itself proves that he's not an expert at what he apparently does.
00:56:27Well, and he's arguing that Joe Rogan doesn't have enough pro-Israel people on his podcast,
00:56:31which first of all isn't true, but it's while Douglas Murray is on his podcast.
00:56:37Like, you're sitting right there, dude.
00:56:39Yeah, just make the argument.
00:56:40And I was pleased to see that there was going to be a debate.
00:56:44I mean, I was very excited for this episode.
00:56:45Like, it's going to be awesome because the thing I love about Dave Smith is that he's somebody who's critical of Israel without being anti-Semitic,
00:56:51which is the thing that I appreciate about you, Ian.
00:56:52You're critical of Israel without being like, the Jews!
00:56:55You know, you don't talk about the Jewish question using terms of Jewish question.
00:56:58You don't talk about international Jewry like some of the more anti-Semitic people in this space do.
00:57:03You talk about Israel and its widespread globalist corruption in a way that does not just implicitly give everyone the sense that anytime you encounter a Jew in the real world,
00:57:13they're part of this cabal, you know?
00:57:15And so it's so important that we're capable of having these difficult conversations around sensitive issues without the gatekeeping and without the censorship.
00:57:25Like, obviously, it's hard for anyone to talk about Hitler without raising an issue, right?
00:57:36And one of the reasons why they stopped doing studies on IQ, for example, is because they discovered that the results of the studies had very, very negative implications.
00:57:46And no psychologist or psychiatrist is willing to do more studies in that field because they don't want to get pinned as racist when the results of those studies come out.
00:57:56That's the fact of the matter.
00:57:57It all happened with the bell curve in the 90s.
00:58:00I can't remember the author of the book.
00:58:02Very famous.
00:58:03And so we don't get IQ studies anymore.
00:58:04Same thing.
00:58:05We don't get people other than independent journalists or podcasters reinvestigating the nature of World War II
00:58:11because nobody wants to be pinned as somebody who's a Nazi supporter because they believe that maybe it was only 2 million instead of 6 million Jews that were killed in the Holocaust,
00:58:19which is not Holocaust denial, and it's not condoning Adolf Hitler.
00:58:22Like, 2 million is still really bad.
00:58:23200,000 is still really bad.
00:58:25Like, it's still a ton of people.
00:58:26One is still really bad.
00:58:27One is bad.
00:58:28Any atrocity is still an atrocity.
00:58:30And you're perfectly walking this line of how there are two evils here.
00:58:34And it's kind of like the classic Jedi story is you cannot use evil to defeat evil because then you become evil.
00:58:41So in the Jewish issue, you cannot become – you cannot condemn all Jewish people for the actions of some Jewish people
00:58:48in the exact same way that you wouldn't do that for, like, the Italians and the Italian mafia.
00:58:51Yeah.
00:58:51Or the fact that 7% of the world is white and white people are responsible for every major world war.
00:58:56It's like, is it because I'm white?
00:58:57Obviously.
00:58:58But then Douglas Murray comes on, and Douglas Murray becomes the woke left from the right in order to try to stop what he sees as, like, this evil woke right thing.
00:59:06And so all the time in this world, there's always a temptation to take the shortcut of sort of the wrong way, the low road, right?
00:59:14Whether that's in discussions of Israel or discussions of communism or just, you know, discussions about discussions.
00:59:20And the unfortunate truth is that you always have to try your best to take the high road, which means listening to the other side.
00:59:25It means actually having a discussion.
00:59:27It means actually engaging with the nuance of a situation, even when it's uncomfortable, like how many Jews died in the Holocaust.
00:59:34Even when it's uncomfortable, like the Holodomor was a big issue, and we never talk about it, and why don't we, right?
00:59:39So there's all this nuance.
00:59:41And when you jump to rhetorical divisive tactics like calling people Nazis or, like, trying to shut people down because they're not experts,
00:59:50it's like these devices that are not actual engagement, you inherently undermine nuance and try to, and you're basically an agent of chaos, an agent of evil.
00:59:59You're pushing conversation towards black and white, towards just the versus mode, right?
01:00:06Towards this identity politics and woke bullshit.
01:00:09And so I think it's really telling that the Douglas Murray, like, still days later, everyone on the internet is still talking about it.
01:00:15I know, and I hate talking about stuff that happened a few days ago because this is a news organization, but it's so relevant and still so happening.
01:00:21And I couldn't even really stomach to watch the whole episode.
01:00:23I watched the first hour or so of it.
01:00:25Did they ever actually get to the point where they directly had a debate on any specific issue?
01:00:29I haven't watched the whole episode either.
01:00:31I don't have time for that, honestly.
01:00:33And I will at some point eventually watch it, but, like, it's, I mean, I have not yet seen a single clip where they actually, like, there are a few where they were debating issues.
01:00:42But it's just, it's interesting that everyone is giving it so much attention.
01:00:47And you say, like, tomorrow's news today, so it's, like, annoying to talk about yesterday.
01:00:50But I would argue that this is tomorrow's news today because we are currently passing anti-Semitism speech laws in America.