MJTV: MJ has a problem with a new Janet Jackson documentary coming out
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00:00And what do we know about boobs?
00:01I always want to remind you guys, left boob bigger.
00:08I was made aware, maybe it was before Christmas,
00:11that there was like this Janet Jackson documentary coming out.
00:14And really, if you think about it, Janet Jackson,
00:17a huge celebrity in the 80s and early 90s.
00:21I mean, massive.
00:23You know, we had that huge Super Bowl performance
00:25and the costume wardrobe malfunction.
00:32That brought that term to the forefront.
00:35The term wardrobe malfunction was created.
00:40It entered our lexicon because of Janet Jackson
00:45and the Super Bowl disaster.
00:48The term nip slip also entered our lexicon.
00:51No, nip slip has been around.
00:52That's just the most famous of the nip slips.
00:54Right.
00:54I mean, it was that nip slip that was caused
00:57by the so-called wardrobe malfunction,
01:00which that was the term that was rushed out.
01:03But how could that not have been 100% premeditated?
01:09It had to be.
01:10It was absolute shock value.
01:12And of course, folks, I'm talking about the 2004 Super Bowl.
01:15I'm not going to spend a lot of time on this
01:17because I've got a lot to do, but I've got to say my piece.
01:20If I keep this bottled up inside,
01:23it's going to be very unhealthy for me mentally.
01:27You've got to let it bubble out.
01:28I've got to let it out.
01:29I've got to discuss this.
01:31For your mental health, let's get it off your chest.
01:34All right.
01:34I'm only going to take a minute or so on this,
01:35and then, Fester, apparently you're going to challenge me?
01:38Let's see what you have to say.
01:40What's caught my attention here is that at the end of the month,
01:45there is going to be a two-night Lifetime A&E.
01:49A&E.
01:51A documentary on A&E.
01:54It's going to be called Unfiltered.
01:57It's going to premiere on January 28th.
02:00And Janet Jackson, after, I mean, really just kind of, boom,
02:04disappearing, is coming back on the scene here.
02:07She's on the February cover of Allure magazine.
02:11She's doing various interviews.
02:13We've got this documentary, the two-parter, that's coming out.
02:17She pledged that she would never discuss the infamous incident
02:21at the 2004 Super Bowl when Justin Timberlake exposed her nipple
02:27while pulling off part of the costume at the very end of the set
02:32during the Super Bowl halftime show.
02:34And she had public apologies.
02:38She did Oprah.
02:42Janet Jackson says, whatever I want to be a part of that conversation,
02:48whether or not I am part of the conversation,
02:50whether she wants to be part of it or not.
02:52Yeah, she told a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist,
02:56Robin Givehan, about the controversy,
02:59which she said hurt her career.
03:03I think it's important, she noted, not just for me, but for women.
03:07So I think it's important that conversation has been had.
03:11You know what I mean?
03:12And things have changed, obviously, since then for the better.
03:15It was February 1st, 2004, when the former NSYNC front dude,
03:24Justin Timberlake, ripped off the—is that a bodice?
03:29Is that what you call it?
03:30Yeah, that's one way to describe it.
03:32Ripped off the front of that leather covering over Janet Jackson's—
03:36was that her left breast?
03:40It was right.
03:40Right breast, right?
03:41It was righty, yes.
03:42Right breast.
03:43And then—
03:44And what do we know about boobs?
03:45I always want to remind you guys,
03:47left boob bigger on most women.
03:49Okay.
03:50But remember, he pulls off the material,
03:53and it exposes Janet Jackson's chest.
03:56And didn't she have some kind of a metal, like a gear or a cog?
04:01Okay, it was a starburst.
04:03It was a starburst around her—
04:05her thing, you know, and anyway.
04:07Okay, okay, so was it around it, or was it covering it?
04:11It was around it.
04:13Yeah, I think it was like a hubcap.
04:15Okay.
04:16All right, so my anger persists to this day.
04:23I have not forgiven Janet Jackson.
04:25I have not forgiven Justin Timberlake.
04:27I don't really know.
04:28We never really got to the bottom of the story.
04:31I don't know if we'll ever know the truth of what happened.
04:34And I think that it strains credulity to believe—
04:39What did you say?
04:41Yes.
04:42All right, so I think that you'd have to be an idiot.
04:46Let me put it that way.
04:47Okay, I understand.
04:48I think you'd have to be an idiot not to believe that that was completely premeditated,
04:53and they were looking for some kind of an unbelievable shock value with a billion people watching worldwide.
05:02What this did—and again, I'm only going to spend a moment on this.
05:06What happened after the Janet Jackson incident, it caused the FCC, with all the complaints, to go into, like, hyper-enforcement mode.
05:26And all of the radio companies—Fester, how can you not remember this?
05:31We were walking on eggshells.
05:33Absolutely.
05:34All of the radio morning shows.
05:36That's when they started putting delay units in, like, all the stations.
05:40All the station owners, they were afraid that they were going to be fined, like, millions of dollars.
05:47And we were under the spotlight.
05:49Congress called in owners of companies.
05:51What are you doing to protect our children?
05:55The Janet Jackson Super Bowl matter made morning show life miserable for a while.
06:04Yes, we were scared.
06:06Companies were firing morning shows.
06:09There were good people—after the Janet Jackson incident, there were good people in this business that were fired.
06:16Good shows were canceled, and not because there was anything obscene, anything that got—not even close.
06:24It was like the—
06:26Anything that was even in the questionable range.
06:29The range was so narrow, and people that had done normal content were getting in trouble, suspended, fired.
06:37Careers were ruined.
06:39And again, we were running scared.
06:42I'm trying to transport myself back to 2004.
06:46You were afraid to put your toes in the water.
06:47I think for a while—
06:48We were afraid to do our freaking show.
06:51It was that bizarre.
06:53The memos, the meetings, the conference calls.
06:56And it wasn't just—back then, we were working for Clear Channel.
07:00The training.
07:01Remember all these online trainings we had to do on protecting the license?
07:05And, you know, we had—
07:06I think for a while, we stopped using the word ass, which is our favorite word to use on this show.
07:10I know.
07:11It was insane.
07:13It was all of the radio companies.
07:15You know, we were Clear Channel back then, the old MJ Morning Show.
07:18Now, of course, we're part of the Beasley Media Group, bringing the MJ Morning Show back.
07:22But all of the major companies like CBS and Cox and—I don't even think they could say their actual name.
07:28They couldn't.
07:28They couldn't say their name on the air, the name of their radio company.
07:31They fined themselves.
07:34They fired the founders of their company over at Cox Media.
07:38But it made our lives hell.
07:42And everyone was scared.
07:44All the program directors, the operations managers, the general managers.
07:48Like, remember Dave Reinhardt and Dan DiLoretto?
07:51And they were—everyone was scared.
07:54And it all came out of that Janet Jackson situation.
07:57So I'm telling you right now, that affected us.
07:59That stressed us.
08:00It—I'm telling you, it made us crazy, and it changed broadcasting.
08:08And people lost their livelihoods because of this, because everyone went into the hypersensitivity mode.
08:15Okay, I've said my piece.
08:16So, with Janet Jackson, she's opened up new wounds, folks, as now she's emerging from hibernation with this docu-series coming out at the end of the month.
08:27So, Fester, is there anything that you want to challenge me on?
08:30Did I say anything incorrect?
08:33You—
08:33Oh, no, not what?
08:35Now you're quiet?
08:35Now you're quiet?
08:36I'm coming right at you, baby.
08:37What's that?
08:38You're just revving up.
08:38You have expressed your feelings.
08:40However, if there were a Justin Timberlake documentary coming out, a two-part documentary of Justin Timberlake on A&E, you would not be this pissed off.
08:49You would not be this mad at Justin.
08:50Because it was—
08:51There were two of them.
08:52You can't be angry at Janet if you're not angry at Justin.
08:55All right, hang on.
08:55As—
08:56Visibly angry.
08:57First of all, it was Janet Jackson's nipple.
08:59Yeah, but it was—
09:00Wait a sec.
09:03It was her show.
09:05He was an accessory item to that show.
09:07Again—
09:08An accessory to a crime.
09:10I would like to know.
09:12Was he in on it?
09:13Did he know that her nipple was going to be exposed?
09:16It's quite possible.
09:17This is—again, this is one of these mysteries.
09:19Will we ever know the truth of the Janet Jackson breast exposure during the Super Bowl halftime show of 2004?
09:28And listen, if he's culpable, then he deserves the same amount of—
09:33You can't say this 20 years later?
09:3615 years later, whatever it is, MJ, listen.
09:38Justin Timberlake was pissed because the year before, in 2003, Madonna kissed Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera on the VMAs.
09:47And it was the most talked-about second in broadcasting ever.
09:51So the talk was, were they trying to outdo that with shock value during the Super Bowl?
09:57All Justin wanted to do was upstage Madonna and his ex, Britney Spears, and he did with this whole idea.
10:03But we don't know the genesis of the idea.
10:07If—listen, if Justin Timberlake said to Janet, hey, I've got a great idea to get the whole world talking, then Justin Timberlake is 100% culpable.
10:17If he had the idea and talked Janet into it, or was it Janet's idea?
10:23Again, I'd like to—will we ever know the real truth?
10:26The answer is yes, because in April of 2001, celebrity stylist—this is from Wikipedia on the Super Bowl halftime show controversy.
10:33Wait, April of what?
10:34April 2021.
10:35This last year—
10:36You said 2001.
10:37Okay, April 2021, celebrity stylist Wayne Lucas claimed that it was planned by Timberlake, who sought to upstage his ex-girlfriend Britney Spears at the VMA—MTV VMA Awards, where she kissed Madonna.
10:49All right, well, listen, this claim is from just last year.
10:52This has been a—now people are talking about it who were involved.
10:56Like you said, Janet's been quiet for a decade and a half over.
10:59So wait a minute, you're telling me that 17 years later, just this past April, some stylist named Wayne Scott claimed that Timberlake wanted to upstage Britney Spears?
11:12Yeah, of course he did.
11:14And he claims, who's this dude and why should I believe him?
11:17Okay, you want—
11:18Because it makes sense.
11:19People come forward in stories all the time.
11:21Why should I believe—people come forward in cold cases all the time.
11:24Why should we believe you?
11:25I am not—first of all, I'm not protecting Justin Timberlake.
11:28If he is guilty and culpable, throw the book at him.
11:31And I'm not—I'm not saying I don't believe it.
11:34I think—I think the story's plausible.
11:36I think Justin Timberlake could have been part of it, but I don't know if we have—
11:40He—he—we have proof.
11:41We have proof.
11:43Gonna have you naked by the end of this song?
11:47That was—that was—
11:48That was the song.
11:49That was the—that was the beat that Justin was singing when he disrobed Janet.
11:54When he ripped, like—it was almost like a Velcro breakaway part of that—that bustier, bodice, whatever you call it.
12:03I do not absolve Justin Timberlake from anything.
12:07If he's guilty, then he gets the same wrath that Janet Jackson would get.
12:12Or if Janet was innocent, then—then Justin Timberlake.
12:17If he was totally—but Janet was wearing the item.
12:19It—it seems—it seems that the options are that they were in total cahoots or that Janet could have had a costume set up and Justin didn't know that the breakaway was going to expose.
12:36They had to have—and then you're blaming the incident for the fallout.
12:41I am.
12:43If you want to be pissed—if you want to—
12:44That's—that's my real anger.
12:46Be pissed at your congressman.
12:47Yes, yes.
12:48Be pissed at the FCC.
12:49Don't be pissed at Janet Jackson.
12:50Yes, be mad at society.
12:52I mean, think about what we're talking about here.
12:53I'm mad at the world.
12:55A nip slip.
12:57Oh, my eyes are going to burn out of my head.
12:59I just saw female anatomy that you see children with.
13:03Like, who cares?
13:04All right.
13:05That's true.
13:06Thank you for the anatomy lesson, Roxanne.
13:07But, M.G., if you're going to be pissed at anybody, be pissed at Congress and the overreaction in Washington and these crazy, nuts-ass conservative groups that comes forward with, oh, they're distorting our children.
13:17There was an absolute meltdown, and there was an overreaction, and I'm just telling you, it made radio morning shows and radio personalities' lives hell.
13:27People were fired, lost their job.
13:29We were on eggshells.
13:30And I was like that for several years, all because of that damn incident.
13:34You can't be pissed at the incident.
13:36You've got to be pissed at the people who reacted disproportionately stupidly.
13:41All right, I'm moving on.
13:41But, listen, I wanted to get my...
13:43Yes, Coop.
13:44I have a correction.
13:45Yes.
13:45You keep saying that she's been in hibernation, but I think the word is rhythm nation.
13:53Very good, Coop.
13:59This is actually really funny.
14:01Very good, Coop.
14:02I waited that entire segment to say it.
14:04All right.
14:05All right.