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11:00e noi comprendiamo un po' molto bene, credo che non abbiamo problemi.
11:04Do you think that we can get an agreement with Norway?
11:05I think we'll have no problem whatsoever with Norway.
11:08Did you discuss a possible visit to Norway?
11:12Did you discuss a possible visit for President Trump to Norway?
11:14We didn't, but I love it.
11:16I mean, I've been there, and it is a beautiful place they have.
11:21I told the President that, you know, he is receiving us early in the term.
11:25He's welcome to visit Norway.
11:26We would like to have him, and it will be another way of emphasizing this strong friendship.
11:32Mr President, Norway has been a staunch supporter of Ukraine since the Russian invasion in 2022.
11:42Has something been discussed here today that may have altered your views on things?
11:48No, we want to, very simply, I have no allegiance to anybody.
11:53I have allegiance to saving lives, and I want to save a lot of lives.
11:57A lot of young peoples, mostly young people.
11:59It's the war.
12:00It's the soldiers, and if we can do that.
12:03Also, as you know, I got started because the money that's been spent on this war is insane.
12:09It should have never happened.
12:11And it would have never happened if I were President.
12:13But Biden spent $350 billion on this, and it's a shame.
12:20And that's what got me involved.
12:22And then I looked at, and I see the results.
12:25It's horrible.
12:26It's a killing field.
12:285,000 soldiers a week, on average.
12:32And we want to stop that.
12:33We both want to stop that, for a lot of reasons.
12:36But I would say that is my number one reason.
12:39Do you continue to ask that you will get Russia to accept a deal that also Ukraine and Europe is willing to do?
12:49I think so, yeah.
12:50I do.
12:50I believe they will accept.
12:52And I think we're going to get this over with.
12:54I hope so.
12:55Soon.
12:55Mr. President, you continue to lack support from NATO allies in your goal of obtaining Greenland.
13:04How will you proceed if you don't get that support?
13:06Well, Greenland's going to be interesting, but that's for another day.
13:10I think we need that for international peace.
13:12What are you expecting of your allies?
13:12And if you don't have that, I think it's a big threat to our world.
13:16So I think Greenland's very important for international peace.
13:19Yeah, please go ahead.
13:20Mr. President, this morning in Truth Social Post, you used the words, Vladimir, stop.
13:25That seemed like a slightly different message, a personal message.
13:30What is your level of frustration with President Putin?
13:32I didn't like last night.
13:33I wasn't happy with it.
13:35And we're in the midst of talking peace and missiles were fired.
13:40And I was not happy with it.
13:41That's what I meant.
13:43And that's, you know, what he said.
13:45Mr. President, why are you going to do it?
13:47I assume that's what you mean.
13:48I'm sorry.
13:48If the bombs keep falling, will you consider additional sanctions toward Russia?
13:53Or what will you do if President Putin does not respond?
13:56I'd rather answer that question in a week.
13:58I want to see if we can have a deal.
13:59No reason to answer it now.
14:01But I won't be happy.
14:02Let me put it that way.
14:04Things will happen.
14:05Mr. President, why are you not putting more pressure on Russia?
14:08I know a lot of Europeans are putting a lot of pressure.
14:11You don't know what pressure I'm putting on Russia.
14:12They're dealing.
14:14You have no idea what pressure I'm putting on Russia.
14:15We're putting a lot of pressure.
14:17Can you maybe tell us that?
14:18We're putting a lot of pressure on Russia, and Russia knows that, and some people that
14:23are close to it know.
14:24Or he wouldn't be talking right now.
14:26The Prime Minister understands that better than anybody.
14:29He wouldn't be talking right now.
14:30He's talking, and we're putting a lot of pressure.
14:32I think he wants to make a deal.
14:34We're going to find out very soon.
14:35But it takes two to tango, and you have to have Ukraine want to make a deal, too.
14:40And they're being hit very hard, and I do believe they want to make a deal.
14:45Mr. President, you've said that the Ukraine have to give some territory to win peace,
14:59among them Crimea.
15:00Do you stand by that?
15:02And I know that the former NATO General Secretary today has told you that he does not agree,
15:09and he believes in territorial integrity of the Ukraine.
15:14How do you deal with that with your allies, and do you stand by that Ukraine have to give?
15:18Mr. Well, the former Secretary General happens to be right here, you know.
15:22So they can't put words in his mouth.
15:24He's a — he's been a great — he's been a great general, frankly.
15:30Because that's what you are.
15:30Really, you're a general.
15:32But he's been a great Secretary General.
15:34We had a tremendous relationship, very successful.
15:37And I think he could speak for himself.
15:40He's right here.
15:40But do you still agree that Ukraine have to give some territory away to win peace?
15:46Mr. Well, it depends what territory.
15:49They've been fighting.
15:49They've lost a lot of territory.
15:51And we'll get — we'll do the best we can.
15:54Working with Ukraine, we'll do the best we can.
15:56But they lost a lot of territory.
15:59When you say Crimea, that was handed over during a president named Barack Hussein Obama.
16:05That was — had nothing to do with me, Crimea.
16:07That was 11 years ago with Obama.
16:11And they made a decision.
16:13There wasn't a bullet fire.
16:15There was no fighting.
16:16There was no anything.
16:17They just handed it over.
16:18Now they say, well, can you get it back?
16:21I think that's going to be a very difficult thing to do.
16:24That was given by Barack Obama when he was president, not by Donald Trump.
16:29Thank you, Mr. President.
16:29Mr. President, I have a long meeting, Mr. President.
16:31The peace proposal that you put on the table, it's a 30-day ceasefire proposal.
16:35Your national security team presented it to both Ukraine and Russia.
16:39Two months ago, Ukraine agreed to that ceasefire proposal immediately.
16:44Russia has not.
16:45And my question is, is Russia the obstacle to peace based upon that, just getting to that 30-day ceasefire?
16:52I don't think so.
16:53I think that they both want peace right now.
16:54They're ready to do something.
16:56We'll see what happens, complicated, very complicated.
17:00But I think they are both very much looking to make a deal.
17:04Marco, what would you say?
17:05Well, first of all, what was put before our partners was options to discuss about things
17:10that it would take to end a war.
17:12This war is endable.
17:13Both sides just have to agree to it.
17:14We've shown them a pathway forward.
17:16We've discussed those ideas.
17:17There was a good meeting yesterday.
17:18There will be good meetings over the weekend.
17:19We've shown them the finish line.
17:21We need both of them to say yes.
17:22But what happened last night with those missile strikes should remind everybody of why
17:26this war needs to end.
17:27It's horrible those missiles landed.
17:28What's even worse is there are today people that were alive yesterday that are not alive
17:32today because this war continues.
17:34And the president wants to stop it.
17:35And everyone should be thanking the president for being a peacemaker and trying to save lives.
17:39That's what we're trying to do here.
17:41It's not our war we didn't start it, as you know.
17:43But we're trying to end the dying.
17:45We're trying to end the destruction.
17:47And we've shown the path forward.
17:49We can see the finish line.
17:50But both of them have to get there.
17:51We're going to do everything we can to help them get there.
17:53But they have to ultimately say yes.
17:55But we are using a lot of pressure on both.
17:57You know, if you think we're just in there because we're nice people, then we are nice
18:01people.
18:01But we're using a lot of pressure on both.
18:03What concessions has the president and to your national security team, what concessions
18:08has Russia offered up thus far to get to the point where you're closer to peace?
18:13is stopping the war, stopping, taking the whole country.
18:18It's a pretty big concession.
18:20What do you want Norway to buy more from the U.S.?
18:30To buy more?
18:32Sì, non bisognava snow.
18:36Non bisognava skis.
18:37Non bisognava skis, non bisognava skis.
18:38Non bisognava skis, anche se.
18:39A lot of them.
18:41We just want to keep the relationship the way it is.
18:45We've had a great relationship.
18:47I think now maybe closer than ever,
18:48but we've had a great relationship with Norway.
18:51I think just keep it the way it is.
18:53You can't do better.
18:54Really? Not even by, say, a fight?
18:57Well, if they want to give us some additional concessions,
18:59that's okay.
19:00You can't do much better.
19:01Yes, yes.
19:02Mr. President, you've had a long meeting with Norway today.
19:05You said that Norway is doing a lot of things right.
19:07But on the Ukraine, if I can ask both you and the Prime Minister,
19:11did you find common ground today on Ukraine and the peace plan?
19:14Totally. It's totally common ground.
19:17The Prime Minister can speak about it,
19:19but I can just say he wants to see people stop dying
19:22more than anything else.
19:24And he'd like to see it end.
19:26He's going to help us end it.
19:28Mr. President, can I say that
19:31to move towards an end of this war,
19:36U.S. engagement is critical,
19:37and President Trump made that possible.
19:40That is clear.
19:40That is obvious.
19:41It's really happening.
19:42Now, the important thing is that both parties have to know
19:46that they have to deliver and they have to feel the pressure to deliver.
19:51Ukraine is under attack.
19:53They are defending themselves.
19:55Lives are being lost.
19:56And we believe very firmly that there needs to be a ceasefire,
20:01the initiative taken by the U.S. some time ago.
20:04It needs to be respected.
20:06And then to move on to something which both parties can own.
20:09That is the complicated part in such a dramatic war.
20:13And here I believe Europeans and Americans working together as we do much closer now.
20:18I salute the team of President Trump of being, you know, open in that process.
20:23We had a good discussion on this today.
20:25And then we have to move on.
20:27And we cannot lose time because this is too much drama happening.
20:30One thing is people losing their lives.
20:32But it is a bad thing for Europe,
20:34and it's a bad thing for the world to have such a broad conflict going on.
20:38It can have ramifications far beyond Ukraine.
20:41Mr. President, a follow-up question on China.
20:45Mr. President, if...
20:47I forgot my question.
20:52I wanted to ask about...
20:54Sorry, it happens.
20:55It happens sometimes, yeah.
20:57No, Mr. President, I wanted to ask about the...
21:01Well, actually, Zelensky has said that he wants more Patriot missiles.
21:06So far, there has been no response from the United States.
21:10If you, as the United States decides, to pull out of negotiating for peace,
21:15trying to broker peace,
21:16does that also mean a no on Patriot missiles,
21:20a no on sharing intelligence with Ukraine?
21:23Let's see what happens.
21:24I think we're going to make a deal.
21:26And if we make a deal, that'll be wonderful.
21:28We won't have to worry about your question.
21:30You can ask that question in two weeks, and we'll see.
21:34But I think we're getting very close.
21:36The Prime Minister feels the same way,
21:38and we'll hopefully not have to answer that question.
21:41Mr. President, Norway is the third country
21:45to be officially invited to the White House after Liberation Day.
21:50Why did you invite Norway so soon to the White House?
21:54Because I like them.
21:55And I like your Prime Minister,
21:58and I like the way your government runs.
22:01And I respect the king.
22:03He's highly respected in Norway.
22:05It's a great thing.
22:06Not an easy thing to do.
22:09He's done a great job.
22:10Would you like an invitation to visit the king?
22:14Absolutely.
22:14You give me that invitation.
22:16I just told the president he's welcome to visit Norway.
22:18President Trump, you said before
22:23that you like the Norwegian Petroleum Fund.
22:27And I'm wondering if that has been up for discussion today,
22:30the way that we have structured our money and what are we going to do?
22:35Well, this fund was created in the late 1990s
22:39to save for future generations the income from our oil and gas.
22:43Norwegians should continue to work as hard,
22:46dedicated, innovate, and move forward despite having these incomes,
22:50which we happen to be in the period or history where we can harvest,
22:54and we have transferred that into investments,
22:57half of them, by the way, here in the United States.
22:59So I think this is a model which we have been able to explore.
23:03If we can share experiences,
23:05and we do with our colleagues in the U.S.,
23:08you never copy this one-to-one,
23:11but there can be techniques and ways of working
23:15that we have used in organizing our fund.
23:20Jens Stoltenberg was the finance minister
23:22when the first dollar entered that fund,
23:25so he is a safe hand to have as a finance minister today.
23:28What do you say?
23:29No, and as you said, Mr. Prime Minister,
23:31we are ready to sit down with the U.S.
23:33to also work with them on if they want to establish a sovereign wealth fund,
23:38because we have a very good experience with our fund.
23:40And I think that one example of how we work together with the United States
23:44is that half the fund, close to one trillion U.S. dollars,
23:49are invested in the United States,
23:52mainly in equity, but also some in fixed income,
23:56including government funds.
23:57So this is an expression of trust in the United States,
24:01expressed by the strong investment of the sovereign wealth fund.
24:05Then just briefly on Ukraine, since it was mentioned,
24:08we had a very good and extensive discussion about Ukraine,
24:11the path forward to peace.
24:13And as the Prime Minister said,
24:14we commend the U.S. for pushing forward
24:17to try to find a negotiated solution.
24:19At the same time, we need to continue to support Ukraine,
24:22and therefore I'm proud that Norway has actually tripled
24:26the military support to Ukraine.
24:28And this year we will allocate close to eight billion U.S. dollars to Ukraine.
24:34That will strengthen them and also their hand on the negotiating table.
24:37Can I add to that, you know, if there is a peace,
24:39and there will be a peace,
24:40we have a common responsibility in securing democratic Ukraine for the future.
24:44And the best security guarantee they can have
24:46is the ability to defend themselves.
24:49And we are investing in that.
24:50Mr. Prime Minister.
24:51As it relates to tariffs, Mr. President,
24:54when you unveiled your reciprocal tariffs on April the 2nd,
24:58the tariff rate for Norway was 15 percent.
25:02Based upon your conversations that you've had today with the Prime Minister,
25:06do you see that tariff rate coming down from what you proposed just a few weeks ago?
25:12Well, they have a great fund of $2 trillion.
25:16It's a big fund.
25:17And they don't have any debt.
25:19So I think they'd probably be willing to pay us more than that, I hope.
25:23Are there two things in agreement with which countries?
25:26Mr. President, in 2018, your former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo called for an end to Russian occupation of Crimea.
25:33Why does this administration, why has this administration changed its stance on territorial concessions with Crimea?
25:39Well, the war started, it would have never started if I were president.
25:43This is a war that is a horrible, horrible, all wars are horrible.
25:47This one is in particular bad.
25:50And I don't know that you can ever say there's going to be a winner to this because so many lives have been lost.
25:57Not only soldiers, a lot of lives have been lost.
25:59I think that we want to do one very simple thing.
26:05It would have never happened if I were president.
26:08Zero chance it was going to happen.
26:09And it didn't.
26:10You know, people say, how do you know that?
26:11Number one, it didn't happen.
26:12We never even discussed it.
26:14I would talk to Putin about it.
26:15It was the apple of his eye.
26:17You know, Ukraine was the apple of Putin's eye.
26:19But we never, there was never even a thought that he'd go in.
26:23And I think he understood that I would not be happy if he did.
26:27And it was only when I got out.
26:30And, you know, when you mentioned what happened to Ukraine years ago under President Obama
26:35and a vice president that was also president later, unfortunately, for this country,
26:41what happened is large chunks of lead were given up and it was called Crimea.
26:47and that was a big, that was a big thing.
26:50That was a big moment.
26:51But this isn't my war.
26:54This is Biden's war.
26:55This is a war that Biden was president when this war happened.
27:00But I'm trying to put out the fire and I think we'll be successful.
27:04And if we do, we're going to save a lot of lives.
27:06Otherwise, and the prime minister had a statement.
27:09He said, this is just a point in time.
27:11We're very lucky because this is a point.
27:13And if this doesn't happen, this could go on for a long time.
27:17Mr. President, will you have meetings with other world leaders when you're in Rome?
27:21Will you have a future Democrat president?
27:24I don't think he will.
27:25I think he wants to make peace.
27:28I think he wants to end it.
27:29And I feel pretty confident of that.
27:31But we're going to know pretty soon.
27:34Mr. President, will you have meetings with other world leaders when you're in Rome?
27:39Yes, I will.
27:40Which leaders do you want to meet, sir?
27:43Well, I'd like to meet them all.
27:44That would be nice.
27:46I'd like to take care of all of them.
27:47But we have many of them there.
27:49And they all want to meet.
27:50They want to meet about trade.
27:52And we are making some great inroads and great deals.
27:56You might want to speak about that, Mr. Secretary.
27:58We had a very successful bilateral meeting with the Republic of South Korea today.
28:03We may be moving faster than I thought.
28:08And we will be talking technical terms as early as next week as we reach an agreement on understanding as soon as next week.
28:16So South Koreans came early.
28:19They came with their A-game.
28:21And we will see if they follow through on that.
28:23Do you think that you deserve the Nobel Peace Prize if you measure the Great Peace Prize?
28:31Do I deserve the Nobel Peace Prize?
28:32If you measure the Great Peace Prize?
28:33Well, maybe for the Abraham Accords.
28:35I don't want to get ahead of myself on this one.
28:38But they say for the Abraham Accords.
28:40And by the way, speaking of that, we're going to be filling it up.
28:43A lot of countries want to come into the Abraham Accords.
28:46You know we have four.
28:46And Biden did nothing on that one, too.
28:50It's the same four.
28:52But they're great countries.
28:53And they were brave doing it.
28:54And it's worked out very well.
28:55And we're going to be filling up the Abraham Accords.
28:58They're going to be, I think, filling it up very rapidly.
29:02Could you say something about that?
29:04There's a great, enormous opportunity to grow the Abraham Accords.
29:07But I would just point to one thing.
29:09Of all the leaders in the world today, no leader is working harder to prevent wars or end them than President Trump is right now.
29:15That's why we're talking to Iran.
29:17That's why we're engaged with Ukraine and Russia.
29:19It's the desire to prevent these wars from breaking out and to end the ones that exist already.
29:23And, again, I just think it's tremendous for our country to be led by a president who desires to bring peace and establish peace and protect peace.
29:32So it's hard work.
29:34Mr. President.
29:36You know, Marco just mentioned something that maybe we should talk about for just a second if we could, Mr. Prime Minister.
29:43And you're involved in it, too, because you've been involved in the world and peace.
29:48But I think we're doing very well with respect to Iran.
29:52And we're having very serious meetings.
29:55And there are only two options.
29:58And one option is not a good option.
30:00It's not a good option at all.
30:03And I think we're doing very well on an agreement with Iran.
30:09But that one, we're doing a lot of things, I will say.
30:12But that one is well in its way.
30:15We could have a very, very good decision.
30:18And a lot of lives will be saved.
30:20Mr. President.
30:21On the economy, there was a slowdown as it relates to home sales in the month of March, the slowest pace since 2009.
30:31Is that an economic indicator?
30:32And perhaps the Treasury Secretary can weigh in on this as well.
30:35Is that an economic indicator that concerns you about the broader U.S. economy?
30:39No, they have very good numbers on housing today, extremely good numbers.
30:43And that's despite interest rates.
30:45Because, you know, if you look at what happened, everyone said, oh, I said I was going to get prices down.
30:50I did.
30:51Energy just hit $1.98 in a couple of states.
30:55It's way down.
30:56Energy's down.
30:57And we're about $64 a barrel.
31:00When I came in and we were looking at $89, $90, $95.
31:03And, by the way, that helps us solve the war, too.
31:06Having those energy prices is a big incentive for Russia to also agree with solving the war problem.
31:14Groceries are down.
31:16When I was with you two months ago, you were complaining about eggs.
31:21I said, I just got here.
31:22I've been here for – I was here for about a week when the press started saying about eggs have gone through the roof.
31:28I said, I just got here.
31:29Tell me about eggs.
31:30And they happened.
31:31They went through the roof and you couldn't get them.
31:33So we just had a big Easter egg hunt at the White House, thousands and thousands of eggs, and the price was down 87%.
31:42So we did a great job.
31:45Housing is doing very well.
31:47We should lower interest rates.
31:48That's the Fed.
31:50I hope they lower interest rates.
31:51That's a smart thing to do, be ahead a little bit, although already it's a little bit late.
31:56But in the end, we just have a great country.
31:58We have a very strong country, and we have every other country.
32:01I can't think of one country that doesn't want to negotiate a deal.
32:06And they either negotiate a deal or we set a deal that we think is fair.
32:10Because we don't have to go through all of these – it would be physically impossible.
32:15You know, you have so many people that really understand it, which is a very small group of people here.
32:20And we are going to, at some point, just set prices for deals.
32:26Some will be tariffed.
32:28Some treated us very unfairly.
32:30They'll be tariffed higher than others.
32:32But we've been ripped off for many, many years.
32:35The United States has been ripped off like no country probably in the history of the world has been ripped off for 45, 50 years.
32:42And countries have gone rich by doing that with the United States.
32:47We've taken care of their militaries.
32:48And military is another subject we talk about.
32:51We're not going to make that subject to any of the deals.
32:53But, you know, you know the same countries that I do where we virtually take care of their military and then don't get treated fairly on trade.
33:01So the people – and I don't blame those countries.
33:04I blame the people that sat at that beautiful desk right behind you because those people didn't do the job for this country.
33:11And they let us lose $4 billion a day on trade.
33:16We were losing $4 or $5 billion a day on trade when I got here.
33:20And now we're going to be much better than breaking even.
33:24And we're going to be making $4 or $5 billion a day on trade.
33:28So – but the – I don't blame any country.
33:32Not the worst of them.
33:33And we were abused by countries.
33:35I blame the President of the United States that happened to be sitting where these deals were made.
33:41Disgraceful.
33:42When I was here, we had a great four years.
33:44We had the most successful economy in the history of our country, my first term.
33:48And we were very tough on trade.
33:50And with China, as you know, they paid hundreds of billions of dollars in tariffs.
33:55But nobody else ever did that.
33:56China paid not 10 cents to any other president.
33:59And they – but not only China.
34:02Virtually every country got away with murder.
34:06And we just can't let that happen.
34:09Thank you very much, everybody.
34:11Thank you very much.
34:12Appreciate it.
34:12Thank you.
34:13Thank you.
34:13Thank you.
34:13Thank you.
34:26Thank you.