🌐 Is peace in Ukraine and Israel a real possibility… or just another political illusion?
In this compelling episode of Dialogue Works, renowned analyst Alex Krainer joins us to dive deep into the ongoing conflicts, hidden agendas, and the global power dynamics shaping today's headlines.
🕊️ Is there genuine hope for peace?
Or are we being sold another round of geopolitical hype?
🎙️ Alex Krainer breaks it down — with facts, history, and a perspective you won’t hear on mainstream media.
📌 Stay tuned for:
✅ The real roots of the Ukraine war
✅ Israel’s shifting alliances
✅ The West's role in escalating or resolving conflict
✅ What global citizens can actually do
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In this compelling episode of Dialogue Works, renowned analyst Alex Krainer joins us to dive deep into the ongoing conflicts, hidden agendas, and the global power dynamics shaping today's headlines.
🕊️ Is there genuine hope for peace?
Or are we being sold another round of geopolitical hype?
🎙️ Alex Krainer breaks it down — with facts, history, and a perspective you won’t hear on mainstream media.
📌 Stay tuned for:
✅ The real roots of the Ukraine war
✅ Israel’s shifting alliances
✅ The West's role in escalating or resolving conflict
✅ What global citizens can actually do
🔥 This is more than analysis — it's a search for truth in a world of spin.
👇 Comment your thoughts below — can diplomacy still win?
📢 Don’t forget to like, share, and subscribe for more deep dives into global events.
#UkraineWar #IsraelConflict #AlexKrainer #DialogueWorks #GlobalPeace #Geopolitics #UkraineIsrael #MiddleEastPeace #WorldNews #IndependentMedia #PeaceTalks #HopeOrHype
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00:00:00Hi, everybody. Today is Thursday, April 24th, 2025, and our friend Alex Greiner is back with us.
00:00:12Welcome back, Alex.
00:00:13Thank you for having me, Nima. Good to be with you, and greetings to everyone out there.
00:00:19Alex, let's talk about what's going on in Ukraine.
00:00:23It seems that as time goes by, everything is getting much more complicated for Donald Trump.
00:00:30Here is what he said in terms of what he's dealing with right now.
00:00:35It's ready. I think we have a deal with Russia. We have to get a deal with Zelensky, and I hope that Zelensky...
00:00:43I thought it might be easier to deal with Zelensky so far. It's been harder, but that's okay. It's all right.
00:00:50But I think we have a deal with both. I hope they do it because I'm looking to save...
00:00:56And, you know, we spend a lot of money, but this is about a lot of humanity.
00:01:01This is the worst. I get the pictures, the satellite pictures. I've never seen anything like it.
00:01:09When he's talking about the satellite pictures, everybody would know that he's talking about the casualties on the part of Ukrainians.
00:01:16And go ahead, Alex.
00:01:20Well, I wonder if he got any satellite pictures from Gaza or from Rafa.
00:01:25Then he would see something much, much worse.
00:01:29But, okay.
00:01:30Look, I think that the situation in Ukraine is a mess, obviously, but it's winding down to a close.
00:01:42At least the active warfighting part is drawing to a close.
00:01:47And I think that the Zelensky regime is going to fall. It's a matter of time.
00:01:56I don't quite understand. Well, maybe I do understand.
00:01:59But, you know, I think it's very strange that Zelensky is being as abrasive and as confrontational with Trump and his government
00:02:11when they are the only force in the world, the only military force in the world that can save his regime.
00:02:18I think it's very indicative that Zelensky's loyalties lie with some other force in the world.
00:02:30I think that's the city of London.
00:02:32And that he's very frustrated with the fact that he is no longer getting the unquestioning blank checks from the United States,
00:02:44unlimited supplies of arms and money and so forth.
00:02:49And so he is responding very impulsively.
00:02:55And I think that his policies are crafted in London and he's doing as they tell him.
00:03:04And London has its own interests with respect to Ukraine, which are their interests, not the American interests,
00:03:14not the Western interests, not the European interests.
00:03:17And they are obviously trying to find ways to keep the United States committed to a Western-aligned regime in Ukraine,
00:03:32whether Zelensky or whoever might come after him.
00:03:36But the whole name of the game is keeping control of Kiev, retaining control of the Black Sea.
00:03:48And let's say that they need to keep the beachhead,
00:03:57you know, keep the place that they can use again in the future to destabilize Russia in whatever way that they can.
00:04:12Alex, the Times reported that the United Kingdom and France stepped back from troop deployment plans in Ukraine.
00:04:21When this idea of sending troops, peacekeepers to Ukraine, it was so absurd from the get-go.
00:04:31But you see, when you see the whole process, you see they're making some sort of argument to make some sort of chaos and then backing down.
00:04:42It's some sort of gain on their part.
00:04:44We know that Donald Trump, as Marco Rubio was talking about, J.D. Vance was talking about,
00:04:50they want to get out of Ukraine as soon as possible.
00:04:55But this came on the part of London, France.
00:04:58They're trying to do everything, making new sort of issues for negotiations,
00:05:04as they were promised.
00:05:05They had promised to do this before.
00:05:08Here is what J.D. Vance said.
00:05:10J.D. Vance said.
00:05:11It's a very explicit proposal to both the Russians and the Ukrainians.
00:05:17And it's time for them to either say yes or for the United States to walk away from this process.
00:05:22We have engaged in an extraordinary amount of diplomacy, of on-the-ground work.
00:05:27We've really tried to understand things from the perspective of both the Ukrainians and the Russians.
00:05:31What do Ukrainians care the most about?
00:05:33What do the Russians care the most about?
00:05:35And I think that we've put together a very fair proposal.
00:05:38We're going to see if the Europeans, the Russians, and the Ukrainians are ultimately able to get this thing over the finish line.
00:05:45Again, I feel pretty optimistic about it.
00:05:47I think everybody has been negotiating in good faith.
00:05:50But it's now time, I think, to take, if not the final step, one of the final steps,
00:05:54which is at a broad level, the party's saying, we're going to stop the killing.
00:05:59We're going to freeze the territorial lines at some level close to where they are today.
00:06:03And we're going to actually put in place the kind of long-term diplomatic settlement that hopefully will lead to long-term peace.
00:06:11Do you feel that Zelensky has a substantial role in what's going on?
00:06:21Well, Zelensky does have a substantial role.
00:06:24The only problem is that Zelensky doesn't have sovereignty in Ukraine.
00:06:31You know, he's not – he's a puppet.
00:06:36And he's a puppet of external forces.
00:06:39And I think that the most essential aspect of this war, obviously, is economic.
00:06:46It's not – you know, I don't know if there's anybody left that still believes that this has anything to do with freedom and democracy.
00:06:56This is clearly about resources, Ukraine's resources, but more so Russia's resources.
00:07:05And using the hegemony over Central and Eastern Europe to defend the hegemony over the Eurasian landmass.
00:07:18That has been the game of the empire for the last two centuries.
00:07:25And the United States has been a major part of this.
00:07:29And there are many vested interests in the United States that are still committed to this,
00:07:35that would still want to see Zelensky's regime succeed, retain power, defeat Russia.
00:07:42And, you know, they don't – I mean, defeat Russia and Ukraine, you know, force them to withdraw.
00:07:48I think that their Christmas list obviously includes ejecting Russia from the Black Sea altogether, you know, from Crimea.
00:07:56And now this is all very much in jeopardy.
00:08:00But because there are powerful vested interests in the United States that are still committed to this project,
00:08:07the Trump administration cannot openly say,
00:08:13we actually think we get a much better deal by aligning ourselves with Russia.
00:08:19And so we're going to drop this Ukraine project altogether and walk away.
00:08:25So, you know, they have to kind of wrap it in something that is acceptable to the U.S. public.
00:08:38They have to – it has to be – they can't talk about the economic aspect.
00:08:46They can't talk about the scramble for resources.
00:08:49So they have to talk about peace and humanitarian aspects and so forth.
00:08:55But, you know, there's clearly now a fault line emerging between the U.S. interests and the European interests.
00:09:04And, you know, Zelensky has signed over in January the bulk of Ukraine's resources and infrastructure capital to British interests.
00:09:24And the Europeans, as far as I can judge from what Macron and his ministers are saying,
00:09:34they – the French bankers, they want to fund the reconstruction of Ukraine.
00:09:42And then, you know, French corporations taking up the lead role in this.
00:09:48And they want to use the 200 plus billion of Russian assets that are still frozen in European banks.
00:09:58The United States is kind of trolling them in this sense that they are – they're still pressuring Zelensky government to sign over Ukraine's resources to the United States.
00:10:12But they're forcing them into an unacceptable agreement, an agreement that is so draconian that it's obvious that Zelensky's government will reject it.
00:10:25And it's already – it's – the agreement is covering the same assets that the Brits already secured for themselves with their 100-year partnership signed on 16th January.
00:10:38So the Americans are giving themselves a safe – a face-saving way out.
00:10:45And now, you know, we've come to the juncture where they're saying, all right, we tried everything we could, and now we're walking away.
00:10:54At the same time, they have continued negotiations with Russia, which, again, this economic aspect of them isn't widely discussed.
00:11:04But Vladimir Putin did say that Russia has a lot more resources than Ukraine does, and Russia already controls the bulk of everything that's valuable in Ukraine.
00:11:16You know, the Donbass used to account for something like 80% of Ukraine's GDP, and that's now largely under Russian control.
00:11:24And Putin has said, we very much welcome other nations to join us in developing this and exploiting these resources.
00:11:36So explicitly, the United States is welcome.
00:11:39And so that's, you know, 10, 12 trillion worth of Ukraine's resources, plus 75 to 90 trillion of Russian resources.
00:11:49And then, you know, the United States also doesn't have to shoulder the cost of providing security for all this.
00:11:59And so it's a, you know, it's an offer with much greater upside for the United States and virtually no downside.
00:12:07Whereas being the security guarantor for Zelensky's government has a massive downside risk, meaning, you know, the United States would have to provide the troops and the weaponry and the treasure to upkeep the Ukraine's government at risk of ending up in a war against Russia.
00:12:33But in the part of the world where Russia has the escalatory dominance, even this was clear, even to Barack Obama in 2014, which is why he declined to escalate the conflict back then.
00:12:50And so from that point of view, the choice for the United States is crystal clear, but it's not something that you can just lay out publicly and say, this is why we're doing it.
00:13:10It all has to be wrapped in human rights, humanitarian issues, peace, law and order, international, you know, all those nice things.
00:13:21And so I think that the Trump administration is very carefully maneuvering their way out, while at the same time discussing cooperation with Russia on future things, on future projects, on economic development, on trade.
00:13:41And they, you know, like they give it away because they say, we're discussing bigger issues than just Ukraine.
00:13:48Yeah, Alex Financial Times yesterday reported that Russia has agreed on freezing the front line, which was shocking for me because you see no other outlet reporting on that.
00:14:06And you don't see it on CNN, BBC, MSNBC, and nobody reported on that.
00:14:13And is that possible for Russia if we assume that?
00:14:20Because in my opinion, Russia is not just, is not acceptable for Russia to freeze the front line because they're not just totally, the front line is not at the border of these four regions that are Russia, that are part of Russia right now.
00:14:39Because Russia wants something beyond that to be a safe zone, a buffer zone.
00:14:45I think that is possible because Russia has defeated Ukraine and Russia will dictate the terms of the armistice.
00:14:58And I think that in the terms of the armistice, they will ensure that they're able to administratively dominate the rest of Ukraine.
00:15:13You know, I don't know exactly how this is done, but I expect that, you know, there will be future elections in Ukraine.
00:15:22Russia will surely set up conditions on, you know, that there has to be a reform of the media,
00:15:28that all these parties that Zelensky banned, that all these parties that Zelensky banned will have to be re-legalized, re-instated,
00:15:42that there will have to be a period of maybe a national unity government.
00:15:48And then, you know, the new elections, Russians will exert pressure to bring all of the, you know, war criminals to justice.
00:16:00So there will be a continuing purge of the neo-Nazi element from Ukraine.
00:16:07And I think that in this way, without having to fight a war, Russia will be able to reassert itself and draw Ukraine back into its orbit
00:16:22and have a government in Kiev that will realign with Russia and loosen its ties to the West.
00:16:30And so in that sense, Russia gains control over all of Ukraine, again, without necessarily having to push the border militarily.
00:16:42And I think that part of the terms of the armistice will be probably 100% complete withdrawal of all Ukraine's forces from all four regions.
00:16:53So when they say, we're going to freeze the front line, I think that what they're saying is, we can stop fighting at these lines.
00:17:06But in the peace agreement, you will agree to completely withdraw your troops from all four regions that are now officially part of Russia, as far as the Russians are concerned.
00:17:18But the buffer zone, I think that would be crucial, so much important for Russia to think of.
00:17:25Yes.
00:17:26There has to be some sort of definition in any sort of Ukrainian settlement.
00:17:32That buffer zone, what would that be?
00:17:34It's going to be part of the Adesha Nikolaev going up to Kharkov, or it's going to be the whole region?
00:17:41But I think more importantly than the buffer zone, because what buffer zone is a geographic concept, I think that they need to prevent Western powers, particularly Great Britain, from controlling the government in Kiev, controlling the ports.
00:18:02Because if they have control of the ports, they will continue to use it to bring in weaponry, to ship in troops, to affect an opium war against Russia, because they will try to use it to smuggle drugs into Russia.
00:18:27You know, opium war has been one of the main tools of foreign policy of Great Britain for 200 years now.
00:18:36And, you know, that can greatly destabilize any nation.
00:18:42And it's a problem for Russia, because Ukrainians are, you know, largely Russian speakers.
00:18:50Many of them have family in Russia.
00:18:52So you can't prevent the people from going in and out.
00:18:58So there's always going to be Russia, Russia will always be a soft target if somebody has political control of the government in Kiev.
00:19:12So they will always have this vulnerability to being destabilized from Ukraine unless they have control over their government and their, you know, their system of law and order.
00:19:28And then, you know, let's not forget, the United States has had, I don't know, maybe they still have, a number of biolabs in Ukraine close to the Russian borders.
00:19:44According to the, you know, the Pentagon themselves, Victoria Nuland conceded that they had 46 or 48.
00:19:51I forget the exact number, but there are many.
00:19:54So there's also the vulnerability to biological attacks in the future.
00:19:58So I think that there's no question that whether militarily or administratively, Russia has to take full control of Ukraine.
00:20:09And, you know, with the United States on their side, they might not need any more to fight it out by force.
00:20:17It could be a political process.
00:20:20I think that Ukraine is crawling with Russian spies and Russian assets.
00:20:26I think that will continue to make it very, very difficult for the Western interests to defend their control of Ukraine.
00:20:36Because, you know, like, let's say, French and British troops land in Odessa.
00:20:42I guarantee you there will be many people in Odessa who will provide the exact location of where these troops are to the Russians who will visit with Mr. Kinjal or something like that, you know.
00:20:56So it's going to be a political struggle for control of Ukraine.
00:21:03But if the Russians succeed to get the Americans on their side, then I think they no longer need to do it with the force of arms.
00:21:16Alex, we had peace talks in London, which was collapsed because Ukraine rejected, as they were reporting on, rejected to talk about territorial negotiations, to talk about some sort of the way that Russia sees the eastern part of Ukraine.
00:21:38And how do you really believe that is it really Zelensky and his people behind this?
00:21:48Because we had the same thing coming out of France.
00:21:51Macron's office said that territorial integrity of Ukraine is non-negotiable.
00:21:56And how you talk about Europe, you said that there is substantial difference between United States and Europe.
00:22:09But who's Europe?
00:22:11Is that just United Kingdom and France or maybe Germany?
00:22:16How about the other countries?
00:22:17Do they have anything to say?
00:22:20I think it's predominantly United Kingdom and France.
00:22:24And I think that Germany is kind of teetering because the popular pressures are pushing the country away from Project Ukraine, while the CDU, CSU, the Greens, you know, these increasingly unpopular political factions are still committed to the Project Ukraine.
00:22:53But if you look at who they are, you know, they are all somehow alumni of the European banking, of the Western banking interests.
00:23:08You know, Friedrich Merz is a former BlackRock guy.
00:23:11And I think that this is the project of European banking oligarchies.
00:23:19This is not the project of European people.
00:23:22But the problem is that the European banking oligarchies have – they're very powerful.
00:23:30Because by controlling the flow of credit and money and being able to sanction certain countries and exert pressure on certain politicians, even up to assassinations, they control the political process, even though most of the public is opposed.
00:23:52And so there's no let up, there's no compromise, which means that the situation is getting increasingly polarized to the point where many people, I think, who understand what's going on, think that there's a real chance that we will have civil wars in Britain, in France, and in Germany, and maybe in other countries.
00:24:18Because beyond that, you know, the Netherlands is very strongly committed to Project Ukraine, Denmark is, and the Baltic states.
00:24:29And I'm not sure where that comes from, but again, I think that they are, you know, very much dependent on the flow of cash from Brussels and from London, you know, not being sanctioned.
00:24:45Look at what is going on with Hungary, with Slovakia, even with Serbia, who's not part of the EU.
00:24:54There's always huge pressure on them to commit to Project Ukraine, impose and maintain sanctions on Russia, to not go to Russia to participate with the May 9th Victory Parade events.
00:25:11And so, you know, it's almost binary.
00:25:16If you want to be in good graces of the ruling establishments in Europe, you have to be anti-Russia and you have to be committed to Project Ukraine.
00:25:25But publicly, it's extremely unpopular and it's, you know, they are, it's increasingly difficult to maintain this, especially now with the U.S. administration letting go of it.
00:25:42And I don't know how it ends.
00:25:46I hope it doesn't go to the level of civil wars, but we will see social uprisings.
00:25:54We will see social revolts in Europe.
00:25:58And I don't know how that will reflect on the political process.
00:26:02We see that there's more and more and more repression by the ruling establishment against the people, mostly in Germany and the U.K.
00:26:09In France, not so much because, you know, the French people are very, very, you know, they don't have a very high tolerance for nonsense and they are very prone to protesting and causing disruptions.
00:26:26But definitely, Europe will have to find its identity.
00:26:31Europe will have to find its way forward because the situation as it is now is very, very unsustainable.
00:26:37And either it will be overcome through the institutions of the system, through the political process, or there really will be revolutions and civil wars.
00:26:50You remember when there was a presidential election in Italy during the Biden administration and everybody was talking about Maloney coming to power.
00:27:01How would that change the unity on the part of the West toward the conflict in Ukraine?
00:27:09And I remember there was an interview on CNN with the, I don't know, Finland has a president or prime minister?
00:27:20It's the head of Finland.
00:27:22I think he's the prime minister.
00:27:25He's the prime minister.
00:27:26Finland said that the interviewer, if I'm not mistaken, was the...
00:27:33He asked the prime minister, Finland, are you afraid of Italy, Maloney coming to power?
00:27:46He said that they're not going to do anything because they're in debt and they know what they would face if they go that way.
00:27:57Yes, exactly.
00:27:59Exactly.
00:28:00Is that the case for Italy?
00:28:04Well, you know, Georgia Maloney is very close to the Trump administration.
00:28:09She's very close with the certain U.S. interests which seem to be opposed to Europe, to the European Union and to Britain.
00:28:18This is all, you know, happening under the radar.
00:28:21It's not overt.
00:28:21It's not out in the open.
00:28:22But it's very, very real.
00:28:24And I think that we will know it'll take time for the dust to settle and for things to become more apparent.
00:28:35Right now, it's very, very difficult to judge.
00:28:37Again, part of the reason is that, you know, there's a lot of entrenched thinking.
00:28:41You know, people on both sides of the Atlantic have grown up with the ideas of these traditional alliances between the United States and European powers, the special relationship between Britain and the United States and all this.
00:29:02But I think that in actual fact, the relations are borderline hostile now.
00:29:11And if you read British press, every so often you will see hints dropped that the United States is now the enemy.
00:29:19And then, you know, not the Europeans in the sense of European nations, but the European Union is very afraid of Trump.
00:29:32And they are on unfriendly terms.
00:29:36And then there's the thing of Denmark, which, you know, will come to a breaking point over Greenland at some point.
00:29:49I think that the United States has now explicitly embraced multipolar integrations, which means that the current administration sees their future as part of the multipolar world.
00:30:07I think that the tariff war is a wrecking ball to dismantle the current system of free trade and force a renegotiation of trade relations on a bilateral basis.
00:30:32You know, with China, you know, with China, with Russia, with other countries, in a way that's different from the from the British free trade system enshrined under the WTO.
00:30:45But I think that the long and in fullness of time, that's going to be the future.
00:30:52Of course, this is this is the United States shifting from the British free trade system to the American system of political economy.
00:31:05Which is, you know, which is, you know, the difference is that British free trade system is allocating credit to speculative activities, not to productive industry.
00:31:22And then running these boom bust sequences, inflating financial bubbles, speculation, bursting the bubbles, obtaining massive bailouts for the for the too big to fail banks.
00:31:40Rinse repeat all over and over and over again, where, you know, the the nation, the population, the the industries, the small and medium sized enterprise always loses and the bankers always walk away with the loot with complete impunity.
00:31:57The American system of political economy is more centered around the state controlled bank that issues credit for productive uses, meaning infrastructure projects, reindustrialization,
00:32:14re reviving of the small and medium sized businesses and so forth.
00:32:26And, you know, the change is so radical, it could hardly be more significant than it is.
00:32:37And in fact, it's, you know, this this change between the two systems, this contrast between the two systems has it goes back to two centuries.
00:32:48You know, Abraham Lincoln's economic advisor, Henry Carey, formulated this very explicitly in the in the book called The Harmony of Interests.
00:32:59I published a published a section from his book on my in my last subsec article, which which which which lays this out.
00:33:09And as it turns out, all eight US presidents who have been either assassinated or mysteriously died while in office have been proponents of the American system of political economy.
00:33:24So this is really a huge, huge deal.
00:33:29And obviously, the the Trump administration is going to face very powerful, powerful pushback from those segments that have been privileged.
00:33:43With the British free trade system that has pretty much ruled since since the Bretton Woods time and has also seen the US deindustrialized since the Bretton Woods time.
00:33:58And if we look at the United States today, it's a it's a shadow of its former self.
00:34:02And Trump has on several occasions said very explicitly that he wants to make the United States the manufacturing power, power, powerhouse of the world again.
00:34:16Alex, you've mentioned the case of Palestine Gaza when we started this talk.
00:34:24And here is the Mahmoud Abbas, PA president, Palestinian Authority president, demanding Hamas release captives to remove Israel's excuse for war.
00:34:40Is he really that much?
00:34:45I don't know how what word can I use that much stuff that he believes?
00:34:49Is he a quistling, a traitor, a quistling of the Palestinian people?
00:34:54Yes, he is.
00:34:55Yes, he is.
00:34:56That's obvious.
00:34:59He.
00:35:01He is the outsourced.
00:35:04Arm of Israeli security state.
00:35:09They they have simply outsourced their repression of Palestinian people to Mahmoud Abbas and the and the Palestinian Authority.
00:35:17So, yeah, that's that's my take on Mahmoud Abbas.
00:35:25But, you know, he's still there.
00:35:27He's still there in the West Bank.
00:35:32And obviously, he's he's doing Israel's bidding.
00:35:35That's to be expected.
00:35:37Do they not see what's going on between Israel and Lebanon, between Israel and Syria?
00:35:42What's that?
00:35:44Israel is bombing them, attacking them.
00:35:46And he's not just about captives and hostages and prisoners is something beyond that.
00:35:52And but these people are so much they're trying to simplify everything in their mind.
00:35:59I don't know.
00:36:00As you mentioned, maybe he's just working for Israel and whatever Israel wants.
00:36:05But after all, he's responsible because of his position and people can see what's going on.
00:36:15They don't need these people to interpret what's going on.
00:36:17Yes, but, you know, somehow this this this system of repression in the West Bank has been entrenched and now, you know, it'll take it'll take a real uprising to change things.
00:36:34And I think that things are increasingly moving in that direction.
00:36:39But at the same time, I think there's also Israel has come to the position where it seems to be disintegrating.
00:36:48The Israeli government, there's there's more and more recriminations, more and more fighting between the factions.
00:36:56Apparently, and I think Alistair Crook said that either either I think on Judge Andrew Napolitano's program, he said that 60 percent of Israelis now expect that there will be a civil war breaking out in Israel.
00:37:15Well, you know, if you if you're sitting on the other side of that, then the one thing you don't want to give the Israelis is external enemy that would cause the that would cause them to close rank behind Netanyahu's government.
00:37:35Because, you know, once there's an external enemy, an external threat, then all these internal infighting dies down because you have to you have to go and and defend the nation.
00:37:50So I think that maybe that's part of the reason why so many forces in the region are standing back.
00:37:59You know, you know, Iran still never replied for last Israel's last attack, because maybe they judge that it's better to let Israel just fall under the weight of its own of its own internal problems.
00:38:17Here is, Alex, here is the article in the Israeli about the Israeli opposition.
00:38:24And here is what he said, the area lapid in the red line has been crossed.
00:38:34If we don't stop this, there will be a political murder here, maybe more than one Jews will kill Jews.
00:38:42This is the situation right now in terms of what's going on between Netanyahu and the Shembed chief.
00:38:50Israel is not feeling that much comfortable as the way the way that Netanyahu is trying to picture.
00:38:59I have just decapitated, assassinated.
00:39:03He says that he Israel was capable to assassinate the head of Hezbollah, Hamas, and they're having the upper hand right now.
00:39:13But when you look at Israel, it's much more divided than ever.
00:39:21But you don't see that much what's going on in Israel, that much being explained in the mainstream media in the West.
00:39:33It seems that they just don't care what's going on in Israel.
00:39:36They're just so much focused on the axis of resistance.
00:39:38And they have been defeated, they have been weakened, they don't see what's going on, what Netanyahu is doing and has done to Israel so far.
00:39:46Well, yes, but, you know, as far as the mainstream media in the West is concerned, you know, Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East.
00:39:55It's a guarantor of stability in the Middle East.
00:39:59It has the right to defend itself.
00:40:01And that's about it.
00:40:02That's about all they say.
00:40:04In Israel itself, I think the debate is a lot more lively, but it's also becoming a lot more polarized to the, yeah.
00:40:16And another Israeli politician said that Netanyahu should be removed from office by force.
00:40:24You know, many people may have thought so, but now it's being said out in the open explicitly.
00:40:32So it's telling you that the situation is untenable.
00:40:37And I think that the stage of decay now is such that it may be irreversible.
00:40:42And I think that in its current form, Israel can no longer survive.
00:40:48It'll have to change.
00:40:49And I don't know how it's going to change, but I think that, you know, Henry Kissinger's prophecy from 2012,
00:40:55when he said that in 10 years, Israel will no longer exist, is maybe now coming to pass.
00:41:02It's been more than 10 years, but it's, you know, it's happening.
00:41:08What's going to happen after that?
00:41:09We don't know.
00:41:10The two-state solution has been killed by Netanyahu, largely.
00:41:14And so what's the alternative?
00:41:19A one-state solution.
00:41:21So it will have to be some kind of a state not based on theocratic racial supremacy of one people that get to oppress the rest,
00:41:31but it'll have to be a nation where all three constituent peoples will have equal rights,
00:41:41some form of democracy where Jews and Christians and the Muslim will have equal status.
00:41:48And I hope that something like that will happen and that the region will then finally know peace
00:41:55because Israel has been the empire's attack dog in the region.
00:42:01It has kept the region destabilized for, what now, 77 years.
00:42:11And maybe this now comes to an end.
00:42:16I really hope so.
00:42:18Alex, the negotiations going on between, we had the second round of negotiations between Iran and the United States,
00:42:26which were positive despite having those sort of rhetorics on the part of Witkow.
00:42:37If you remember, he said that Iran has to stop its uranium enrichment, but they didn't,
00:42:45it seems that they didn't talk about it in the second round.
00:42:50And it was just something for the media, nothing for the negotiation as far as we know.
00:42:56But when you look at the position of the United States today in negotiating, talking with Iran,
00:43:04Saudi Arabia, China, Russia, China and Russia tried to somehow help the United States in JCPOA.
00:43:14Saudi Arabia was against any sort of agreement with Iran, and they were so vocal about it, talking about it.
00:43:27And right now, for the case of Saudi Arabia, we had the defense minister of Saudi Arabia going to Iran,
00:43:35carrying a letter from his father, the king of Saudi Arabia, to the Iranian leader.
00:43:41And they're talking about not only they're agreeing on any sort of talks and settlement between Iran and the United States,
00:43:54but also they're prepared to make a new security for the region together with Iran, new security architecture.
00:44:02These are huge changes that are happening.
00:44:04Saudi Arabia, which before, many people are arguing, by the way, they're condemning Hamas,
00:44:11that Hamas was responsible for this and that.
00:44:15But Saudi Arabia was on the path of getting closer to Israel, if you remember, before October 7th.
00:44:22They wanted to make an agreement and just bury the case of Palestine, just everybody would.
00:44:29But the situation has totally changed.
00:44:31It's not in favor of Israel.
00:44:32The region is feeling that the Iran and Saudi Arabia, at least from what we've seen so far,
00:44:38they're feeling that they're closer together.
00:44:40I talked with Professor Miranda in Iran.
00:44:42He said that right now, Saudi Arabia is concerned about what's going on in Syria,
00:44:48what's going on in Lebanon.
00:44:52And that's why they're getting closer to Iran.
00:44:54This is so strange to me, for someone who is witnessing what, who was following what's going on between Iran and Saudi Arabia.
00:45:03In your opinion, what's going on in the region?
00:45:05And is that going to be considered by the Trump administration?
00:45:10Well, so far as Trump administration is concerned, you know, it would appear that they are ardent Zionists,
00:45:21that they are all completely and totally committed to Israel, that they are an Israel-first administration.
00:45:30But that is completely inconsistent with them embracing the multipolar integrations,
00:45:38because Israel has been the project of Western Empire.
00:45:47It was created by the British Empire.
00:45:49It was created there as a beachhead to keep the region destabilized in order to defend Western hegemony
00:45:59over the Middle Eastern region, in order to be able to extract its resources and keep control.
00:46:10That means that you have to be policing the region.
00:46:13You have to be supporting Israel militarily.
00:46:15You have to defend Israel no matter how complicated, how expensive it gets,
00:46:22because it's the bankers' access to the collateral of the Middle East so that it's an asset on their books.
00:46:30Okay.
00:46:31So that doesn't make a lot of sense that, you know, United States embraces multipolar integrations,
00:46:36but at the same time it's completely committed to Israel.
00:46:42I think that the reason, and so, you know, if I were Israeli, if I were a Zionist,
00:46:51I would be very, very distrustful of the Trump administration,
00:46:56regardless of what is being said out in the open.
00:47:00Now, I think that there are these, for the region, for the UAE, Oman, Saudi Arabia,
00:47:15I think they all see the writing on the wall.
00:47:18They all see that the situation is unsustainable.
00:47:21They all see that if they yield to Israel and to the Western Empire, that they'll be next.
00:47:31You know, this is no security architecture.
00:47:34This is a permanent insecurity architecture.
00:47:36And, you know, up until, what, 10 years ago?
00:47:46I don't know.
00:47:46On my clock it's 2015 when Russia intervened on the side of Syria in the Middle East,
00:47:56that things begin to change,
00:47:58and the powers in the region realized that there is an alternative.
00:48:04And then there were several very important moments
00:48:07that I think probably shook the regimes in the region out of their slumber.
00:48:15One of them was August 15, 2021, the United States withdraws from Afghanistan.
00:48:21I think this was a very significant moment because it showed to everybody
00:48:26that the empire can no longer defend its puppets
00:48:29because we saw the Iranian, sorry, Afghanistan's president hastily board a helicopter
00:48:40with bags full of cash to escape with his life,
00:48:45and also the governor of the central bank trying to run to Turkmenistan to Tajik,
00:48:53I don't know where, and then he ended up, you know, he was rejected
00:48:56and then he had to fly to Dubai where they kind of let him stay reluctantly.
00:49:03But what it showed to these regimes is that empire can no longer guarantee their security.
00:49:10So they might end up hung and quartered by their people.
00:49:14So now it means we have to make nice with our own people.
00:49:19We cannot take them for granted anymore.
00:49:22And it also means that we might have to find alternative protectors,
00:49:30you know, alternative guarantors of security.
00:49:34So, you know, this vacuum was filled by Russia and China.
00:49:37I think that Russia initiated the peace talks between Iran and Saudi Arabia,
00:49:41and I think that China saw them through to their completion.
00:49:46And now we, and I, you know, I thought for a very long time,
00:49:49much before all these events happened, what is the reason for Saudi Arabia and Iran to be enemies?
00:49:56And I think that the only reason is because that's the way it was set up by the British Empire.
00:50:03And those hostilities will be maintained.
00:50:06And you know how they maintain them?
00:50:08They make sure that there is no effective communication between the two sides.
00:50:12Like now, they're desperate to break the new,
00:50:16the new entente cordiale between Russia and the United States.
00:50:23You know, they want to keep them on hostile terms.
00:50:25So the same was done between Iran and Saudi Arabia.
00:50:28And now there's no need, there's no more need for that.
00:50:31And there's a lot to gain from constructive cooperation.
00:50:35And now everybody sees that.
00:50:38And then, you know, Russia signed a comprehensive cooperation agreement with Iran.
00:50:42China signed a comprehensive cooperation agreement with Iran.
00:50:46They're holding annual naval exercises every year in the Indian Ocean,
00:50:51right there in front of the Persian Gulf.
00:50:55So I think that's a very, very strong signal to everybody in the region
00:50:58that the security architecture is being overhauled.
00:51:01China has pretty much designated Iran as the region's anchor of the new security architecture.
00:51:12And so now people, and then another important moment was the West freezing Russia's assets
00:51:18in Western banks.
00:51:20And so many of these oil exporting countries have hundreds of billions of dollars
00:51:24sitting in European and American banks at the Federal Reserve and in London and in Europe.
00:51:31And they now realize that that money is not their money.
00:51:35You know, they, this could be frozen and taken away from that.
00:51:40If they can do it to Russia, of course they can do it to UAE.
00:51:45They can always invent some kind of a, oh, UAE is a center of money laundering.
00:51:53We're going to impose sanctions.
00:51:55We're going to freeze your assets.
00:51:56And then that's it.
00:51:58And so they realize that they need something else, that they need to protect themselves
00:52:05by making nice with Iran, with China, with Russia, and start to distance themselves away
00:52:11from the Western Empire.
00:52:14But the same is going on in the United States.
00:52:16And I think that the tide is really turning.
00:52:18And this is why we see now that the main arsonist of peace in the world, which is the United
00:52:28Kingdom, is starting to destabilize more and more and more regions.
00:52:32I got a report from Bosnia that, you know, the president of the Serbian enclave, Serbian
00:52:40canton, Milor Adodik, is going around with very heavy security.
00:52:44And he's saying publicly that the British are trying to assassinate him, specifically
00:52:49the British.
00:52:51And pretty much everybody in Bosnia accepts that the British are ruling the land and that
00:52:57the place is crawling with British secret services.
00:53:01And then, you know, we had this terror attack in Pakistan, which, you know, could precipitate
00:53:07a wider conflict between India and Pakistan again.
00:53:12And so, you know, I think that the Western Empire is in a dying agony.
00:53:20And it's going to try to set the world on fire to preserve itself.
00:53:25But at the same time, I think that the powers that are opposed to them understand what's going
00:53:31on.
00:53:32You know, they're no longer falling into provocations.
00:53:35And I think it's getting much, much harder for them to do what they've been doing for the
00:53:40last 200 years.
00:53:45Alex, when it comes to China, we know that the United States and the universe, to get out
00:53:52of Ukraine, I would believe from the Middle East and go to China and to what's going on in Taiwan
00:54:01and the situation with China.
00:54:04Here is what Marco Rubio said in terms of how they're planning to deal with China.
00:54:08It's the number one challenge on every front that I can imagine, geopolitically, national
00:54:14security, economically, industrially.
00:54:17And look, the president says this all the time, and I agree.
00:54:20We don't blame the Chinese.
00:54:21The Chinese have done what we would have done if we were the leaders of China.
00:54:24They looked, the previous leaders in this country and around the world allowed them to
00:54:29cheat and steal and get these unfair advantages, and they took them.
00:54:32Why wouldn't they?
00:54:32But now it's got to be fixed.
00:54:34It's got to be fixed.
00:54:35Nima, I've never been a fan of Marco Rubio.
00:54:44To the contrary, I had a certain contempt for the man.
00:54:50But what he said there is exactly correct.
00:54:53That is probably the most perfect statement Marco Rubio has ever said in his life.
00:54:59This is exactly what happened.
00:55:01I think that the history of the rise of China goes back to 1971, when Richard Nixon severed
00:55:12the convertibility of the dollar to gold.
00:55:15And I think that from that point on, the ruling establishment in the West knew that they were
00:55:24going to destroy the dollar and the United States.
00:55:27They were going to completely deplete the host.
00:55:29They're going to kill the host.
00:55:31And they would need a new hegemon in the world to enforce their system of free trade, system
00:55:40of colonial plunder, and name it what you like.
00:55:45And they designated China as that new colonial hegemon.
00:55:50And so this is why they built up China into this economic powerhouse, except it didn't work out that way.
00:56:01But along the way, they did make everything possible to build up China at the expense of the United States, among others.
00:56:15And so this is exactly right, when Marco Rubio says, the Chinese have done what we would have done if we were put in that role.
00:56:27Exactly.
00:56:28The Chinese have simply gone along with that because it helped them to build up China into the economic powerhouse that it is today.
00:56:38But they wouldn't have been able to do that if the Western powers didn't help them along, the Western financiers, you know, who counted on China being their new enforcer.
00:56:51Except, you know, as it turns out, the Chinese have, they drew them in, but they were not intending to become their global cop.
00:57:05They intended to draw them in in order to behead them.
00:57:09But it's true that, you know, the United States has lost a lot of industry at the expense of China, and now they want to reverse this.
00:57:19They want to rebalance this and bring back manufacturing to the United States.
00:57:25But this will have to be sorted out between the United States and China in bilateral trade talks.
00:57:32And, you know, they will have to be signing comprehensive bilateral cooperation agreements, as the Chinese did with the Russians, as they did with the Iranians.
00:57:43And there's a lot of complementarity between the Chinese economy and the American economy.
00:57:47The American economy still has a certain dynamism that will allow it to spring back.
00:57:54You know, when you start to allocate credit, not into housing bubbles and real estate bubbles and, you know, spending trillions on the military industrial complex and bases and keeping, you know, upkeeping the NATO and so forth.
00:58:13Because the United States will be able to allocate a lot of capital into its main industries, into reviving the small and medium-sized businesses.
00:58:24And, you know, the United States is still the leader in certain technologies.
00:58:28It's also a leader in certain industries that maybe go under the radar.
00:58:34But, you know, I always like to point out, you know, if you want to buy a Rolls-Royce piano, it's going to be the New York-built Steinway piano.
00:58:42And, you know, they have things like, you know, Fender guitars and, you know, Hollywood can still make nice films, you know, once they sober up and purge it from all these degenerates that are running it.
00:58:59But, you know, the United States has a lot to offer to the world.
00:59:03And so I think that that's going to come back.
00:59:05I believe that, you know, there's not going to be a war between China and the United States.
00:59:14And I think that so unless Trump ends up dying mysteriously while in office and, you know, the global interest managed to regime change and bring back some autopen administration,
00:59:28Juan Guaidó maybe becomes the next president of the United States, I think that the United States will continue to go in the direction of multipolar integrations.
00:59:42And so that's something that everybody should look forward to.
00:59:45I understand that there's still a very strong, how do you call it, suspicion of Trump.
00:59:54But I think that we have to understand that what he's doing is so radical that it has to be done in a certain covert way and that their moves have to be so unpredictable that they always keep their opposition kind of unbalanced.
01:00:14And then, you know, the stuff in the Middle East, which is deeply disappointing, it is what it is, but I really don't – I'll have a question for you after this.
01:00:32I really – if I were a Zionist, I would be deeply distrustful of the Trump administration.
01:00:37Anyway, the question I wanted to ask you, Nima, I understand that some of the recriminations among the Israeli government officials has to do with resupplying humanitarian aid to Gaza.
01:00:54Do you know about this?
01:00:55Actually, I don't see that would be – actually, I don't have any sort of information on that.
01:01:08No, okay.
01:01:10Okay, because I have some information.
01:01:12I don't know if this is real or this is rumored.
01:01:16But if it were real, I would like to know where the pressure was coming from.
01:01:19No, but Alex, the problem – Alex, the other important point, by the way, I do believe if Donald Trump can reach an agreement between Iran and the United States, that would hugely benefit Gaza and the situation in Palestine.
01:01:41It's unbelievably influential for the situation in Palestine.
01:01:47They can reach – they can – and on the other hand, if what we – we don't know, Alex, what's going on beneath the surface.
01:01:59But what's at the surface, we see Netanyahu not that much criticizing Donald Trump for what he's doing, as he was doing during the Obama administration.
01:02:11We know how harshly he was criticizing Obama for JCPOA and going against – and we see Donald Trump, the Trump administration, filling with all Zionists around him.
01:02:27But at the same time, they have just – they're somehow trying to manage the situation with the negotiation.
01:02:37And if Donald Trump – I know we are all disappointed with what's going on in Gaza because this is not just in Gaza, with Lebanon, with Syria.
01:02:49And Yemen is trying – and Yemen is trying – nobody but Yemen is trying to fight Israel.
01:02:56But it's all about a political game.
01:02:59We have to see the bigger picture.
01:03:02Yes.
01:03:03Yes, I agree with you, Nima.
01:03:06It's – you know, it's – it's – it's – it's – it's possibly one of those situations where in order to win a battle, you risk to lose a war.
01:03:15So, you know, you step aside.
01:03:21With regards to Netanyahu, I think that he's standing on such thin ice that part of his shtick is projecting the image of close alliance with the U.S. administration.
01:03:39You know, to prop up his own power and his own standing in the Israeli society, he's not criticizing Trump because he wants to project that, hey, you know, Trump and I were like this, you know, so he's behind me all the way.
01:03:55So you all there, you know, make peace with that.
01:03:58And then from Trump's side, you know, if – if the day Benjamin Netanyahu falls, there's no telling what's going to happen next.
01:04:09But there is – there is a certain – there is a certain likelihood that Israel falls into anarchy, into chaos and civil war.
01:04:20So I think that as far as the U.S. administration is concerned, it's the – it's the devil you know rather than – than chaos that you cannot predict how it plays out.
01:04:34And then, you know, it could scuttle a lot of plans and create a lot of problems that you didn't – you're not ready to deal with.
01:04:43I don't know.
01:04:44It's – the situation is so severely complicated that it's hard to judge.
01:04:50I'm very encouraged now with the new military cooperation between China and Egypt, which creates a real counterweight to Israel.
01:05:00And I think that, you know, little by little we're moving towards a permanent peace in the region, which is very, very hard to imagine because it has been – it has been a festering sore for so many decades.
01:05:17But, you know, the source of all this is always the same imperial center, which has exactly set it up for that purpose when they created Israel, when they drew those SAIS-PICO borders as they did.
01:05:33And so the – you know, this is now in its dying days.
01:05:37And obviously, you know, it's going to be ugly until – until the situation settles.
01:05:43But it's – it's – it's coming – it's coming to a new day.
01:05:47It's coming to a new dawn.
01:05:49Yeah.
01:05:50The way the fall of Assad in Syria, it doesn't seem to be that much – it's going to have huge, huge influence on the region.
01:06:00And you see Saudi Arabia talking to Iran, concerned about Syria, which somehow surprising for the people who were – who knew that Saudi Arabia was one of the main sponsors of Daesh and Al-Qaeda and all of that.
01:06:18And right now they're afraid of HDS in Syria.
01:06:22In Lebanon, they want to somehow close the government in Lebanon to Hezbollah.
01:06:27They want to just make some sort of agreement between – they're interested in that.
01:06:33These are important changes.
01:06:37Yeah, these are very important changes.
01:06:38But I don't think that that's going to work because I think that even people in Lebanon realize that if you remove Hezbollah from the government, then Lebanon becomes the next target for Israel.
01:06:52You know, it's – they're basically – they're basically pressuring Lebanon to disarm themselves, to make themselves sitting duck for Israeli aggression.
01:07:02And then everything they're doing in Gaza, everything they're doing in West Bank, they're going to be creeping up higher and higher north.
01:07:12And, you know, they're explicit about it.
01:07:14This is part of the Eretz Israel.
01:07:15You know, this is what they want.
01:07:18So I think that, well, you know, maybe 20, 30 years ago when the United States was the undisputed hegemon in the region, everybody would have to bow down and do as they demand, maybe.
01:07:28But today it's really no longer the case.
01:07:33And I think that with respect to HTS, I think these people are dangerous for everyone, including Russia, you know, because this is exactly who – the groups that have perpetrated terror attacks in Russia,
01:07:52who have tried to destabilize Russia in Dagestan and Chechnya, who can still draw recruits from those regions and from Afghanistan and from Syria and from China.
01:08:05And so I think that everybody in the region sees that if this faction – as long as this faction remains alive and powerful and funded, they are a risk to everybody.
01:08:18I think it's so much delusional to think that Hezbollah are going to disarm and it's beyond – and I don't see the government in Lebanon that much stupid, that much dumb to ask for that.
01:08:34Because if they ask, they are nothing less than Mahmoud Abbas in the Palestinian in the West.
01:08:40Exactly.
01:08:41Exactly.
01:08:42Exactly.
01:08:43They will become the PLA in Lebanon.
01:08:48And then, you know, the Lebanese people are going to suffer a similar fate as Palestinians in the West Bank.
01:08:56And I don't know why, you know, we don't hear much about Jordan.
01:08:59I can't imagine that Jordanian king is having a good time these days.
01:09:06I don't know how long his regime is going to last there.
01:09:08They're talking about Muslim Brotherhood right now.
01:09:12They're so much afraid of what's going on.
01:09:15It seems that they're feeling the influence that the Turkish government has in Syria and the rise of Muslim Brotherhood, not only in Syria.
01:09:25But the concern comes from Egypt and how they can influence Egypt in the long run.
01:09:32And the fact that the Chinese are now beefing up their military cooperation with Egypt is, I think, a strong signal that they're countering those winds.
01:09:45Alex, before wrapping up this session, here is a question one of our audience asked you.
01:09:56Can you read it?
01:09:58Alex, what's your prognosis of the new upcoming military partnership between Hungary, Serbia, and more potential allies?
01:10:05Will this further shatter EU, allowing countries to pivot to the East?
01:10:14That's a very good question.
01:10:17I think that, yes, this is, I think, this is definitely a defense against the Empire's dark arts, you know, if I can say so.
01:10:27You know, the Western powers, you know, it's always coming from London, unless it's coming through its satellite, Brussels.
01:10:39They have pushed Croatia into an alliance, into a military alliance with Albania, Kosovo, and Bulgaria.
01:10:49And I'm not sure if Bulgaria is really a part of it.
01:10:51People are saying, no, no, no, no.
01:10:52They're denying it, even though it's been officially announced.
01:10:55And, you know, this is the East, the South, and the West of Serbia.
01:11:04This is obviously aimed at Serbia.
01:11:08But there is zero appetite for this kind of a conflict in Bulgaria, and there's zero appetite for this kind of a conflict from Croatia.
01:11:18So we're talking basically about Kosovo and Albania.
01:11:20And I suspect that Albania is not too much on board with that either, because Kosovo is a NATO-controlled enclave, you know, a U.S.-controlled enclave.
01:11:31But again, you know, the United States is rapidly losing interest.
01:11:34It used to be.
01:11:35Maybe it's maybe it's maybe it still is a training ground for jihadists that then get fielded around to, you know, to Syria and elsewhere to wage war on behalf of the on behalf of the empire.
01:11:48And now, you know, there's fear that the Serbs will retake Kosovo and that the Kosovo will have to defend itself by force of arms at some point.
01:11:58And then at the same time, the Serbs have refused to sanction Russia.
01:12:02They have good, open cooperation with Russia.
01:12:07And so attacking Serbia would be again, like in World War II, sorry, World War I, a way to draw Russia into another guagmire, this time in the Balkans.
01:12:21And, you know, in World War I, they used Serbia to provoke Austrian empire into attacking Serbia, waging war.
01:12:33And then, you know, it all blew up because Russia had to come to the aid of Serbs.
01:12:38They didn't come to Serbia, but they kind of declared war on Germany because Germany was deemed as responsible for the behavior of Vienna.
01:12:49And so now it seems to me that the Brits are trying to revamp the same playbook to draw Russia into the Balkans, to defend Kosovo as their beachhead in the Balkans, and to prevent Serbia from taking it over.
01:13:03But I don't know that it's going to work because it's, you know, Serbia, Croatia, even though we have, we were at war against the Serbs 30 years ago,
01:13:17we actually have a lot of reasons to have a positive, constructive cooperation with Serbia.
01:13:27You know, we were part of the same country once.
01:13:29We had our disagreements, but we speak the same language.
01:13:33We are Christian nations on both sides.
01:13:36But on the other hand, Croatians have very little in common with Kosovo or with Albania.
01:13:43We are completely different peoples.
01:13:46We don't speak the same language.
01:13:47They're Muslims.
01:13:48We're Catholic.
01:13:50You know, dragging us into this alliance is something that's almost against nature,
01:13:58not to mention that it's territorially not even contiguous.
01:14:01These are territorial fragments that are not even connected.
01:14:07So the whole plan, I think, is completely idiotic.
01:14:11You know, 100 years ago, Hungary was a major European power.
01:14:17Croatia is not a major European power.
01:14:20It's like the whole thing, you know, it's the same geography,
01:14:24but the circumstances have changed so much that I think that it just reflects the desperation
01:14:33of the empire to do another arson attack against peace in the world.
01:14:39But I don't see it as gaining very much traction.
01:14:43In Croatia, in fact, people are kind of thinking like, what is this?
01:14:48You know, what kind of an alliance is this?
01:14:50What does this have to do with us?
01:14:52And it's almost like it drifted into oblivion because people just kind of dismissed it,
01:14:59like, whatever, this is nothing, never mind.
01:15:02And so I think that nothing comes of it.
01:15:06I think that the Balkans is going to be very difficult to set alight again.
01:15:15It's not impossible, but it's going to be difficult.
01:15:18I think that people are seeing through the British role in Bosnia and against Serbia.
01:15:25And I think that they're not inclined to play into it.
01:15:28There are a lot of similarities between the case of Iran and Iraq and Croatia and Serbia when you mentioned.
01:15:40Well, it's always the same playbook, Nima.
01:15:43It's the same playbook.
01:15:45And now, you know, Pakistan against India again.
01:15:50And it's just like one thing after another.
01:15:54This has been the 200-year architecture of insecurity in the world deliberately set up, deliberately fomented by the British Empire.
01:16:08And it's a reincarnation with the US-NATO empire.
01:16:15But it now faces real opposition in this world.
01:16:19And I think that that real opposition is not only in command of the bulk of global GDP.
01:16:24It's also a credible economic, military, and diplomatic power in this world.
01:16:31And I think that more and more nations are realizing the sun is starting to rise from the east again.
01:16:38And they're, you know, it's forcing rethinking.
01:16:43Yeah, exactly.
01:16:45Thank you so much, Alex, for being with us.
01:16:48Always a pleasure, Nima.
01:16:49Thank you very much.
01:16:50Take care.
01:16:50Until the next time.
01:16:51Bye.
01:16:52See you.
01:16:52Bye-bye.