Trump Talks Peace While Waging Shadow Wars? 🕵️ Brian Berletic Breaks It Down | Rachel Blevins Reports

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Peace on the surface — war behind the curtain?
In this revealing discussion, analyst Brian Berletic joins Rachel Blevins to expose how the Trump administration may be using diplomacy as a cover while quietly fueling conflicts with Russia, Iran, and China.

🎯 Topics covered in this hard-hitting episode:
🕵️‍♂️ Backdoor military strategies under the guise of peace talks
🇷🇺 Escalation tactics toward Russia
🇮🇷 Provocations in the Middle East
🇨🇳 Rising tensions with China and the Indo-Pacific
📉 The role of Western media in covering up global military aggression

🗣️ Brian and Rachel ask the question everyone should be asking:
Is diplomacy being used as a distraction while war plans are already in motion?

🎥 This is a must-watch for anyone tired of surface-level headlines and craving real geopolitical insight.

💬 Comment below — is the world being misled by fake peace efforts?

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Transcript

00:00It is April 23rd, 2025, and while the Trump administration is in a position right now where

00:07it is actively engaging in talks with Iran and with Russia, and you've got Trump talking about

00:13de-escalating the trade war with China, we also have to remember that we can't accept

00:20these statements at face value. Why? Well, because the U.S. establishment is much bigger than just

00:27the current administration of the moment. They have plans for war with Iran and Russia and China

00:34that go back years. They have a number of policy papers that talk about exactly the way that U.S.

00:40foreign policy is unfolding right now. And yes, that even includes a situation where the U.S. engages

00:48in talks with Iran and then plans to let or to encourage Israel to carry out an attack directly

00:57against Iran, while the U.S. acts like it's hands-off when we all know that the U.S. is not

01:02hands-off whatsoever when it comes to anything that Israel is doing in the Middle East. We got into all

01:10of the latest. We talked about a range of issues, where things are headed, and also the role that

01:15the propaganda war plays in all of this with a special guest earlier. So let's take a listen to

01:21that conversation now. Joining me now to discuss is Brian Berletic, a geopolitical analyst and host of

01:28the new Atlas. Brian, thanks so much for taking the time to join me. Thank you so much for having me

01:35back. Always good to have you. Now, I want to get your take on a few different topics. I know there's

01:41a lot going on, and in some ways, not a lot going on right now. But I want to start off with Iran,

01:47because as we saw, Trump went from threatening an all-out attack to suddenly announcing plans for

01:54nuclear talks. And we have seen two rounds of talks with the third plan for this coming weekend.

02:00But we also have reports that Israel is planning an attack on its own and that the Israeli Air Force

02:06is running drills for it. Now, I do want to bring up a post that you made because you pointed out that

02:12this has actually been the plan for a while with a Brookings Institute policy paper from 2009

02:19titled, Which Path to Persia? And it has an entire chapter called, Leave it to Bibi, Allowing or Encouraging

02:28an Israeli Military Strike. Now, reading this, this could have been written today, right? There's not much

02:34to convince me that this was written back in 2009, because not much has changed. But in it, it talks about

02:41the US, you know, engaging in talks, making it clear that they're not the ones who are attacking,

02:47setting up a deal, Iran rejects the deal, and then all of a sudden, Israel carries out an attack.

02:53Is that what it looks like we could be building up to with what's happening right now?

02:58Yes, absolutely. The United States is only creating this issue with Iran in the first place,

03:04because it has sought to subordinate Iran for decades. It had, it and the British had subordinated

03:10Iran. Iran threw off Western control, and the US has been trying to reimpose it ever since. So we're

03:19talking decades and decades. And this is what every single administration without exception has been

03:23trying to do, including the previous Trump administration, conducted an act of war against

03:29Iran, the assassination of General Qasem Soleimani in Iraq, a very serious act of war that only

03:36Iran's restraints prevented an actual war from breaking out. So the whole purpose of creating

03:42this issue in the first place is to find a pretext for war. The United States wants to frame this in a

03:49way that it appears to be the one acting rational. President Trump is the peace president, despite him

03:55burying the rest of the region with US bombs, either with US planes or Israeli planes. And then this whole

04:03narrative where President Trump wants peace, but Israel is thinking about carrying out an attack all on its

04:09own. These attacks are only possible if the US assists Israel. In that 2009 policy paper, it says

04:15allowing or encouraging. There's a very distinct difference between allowing and encouraging. Allowing means

04:21openly greenlighting it and openly supporting it. Encouraging means doing it behind the scenes while you

04:29yourself try to distance yourself, create plausible deniability. And this is what I say all the time

04:36to people watching current events unfold. All of this is written in policy papers. This is something

04:43too big to just wing it day to day. These are policies that are put not just to one document,

04:50but to many, many papers, the people going in and out of these administrations and the think tanks,

04:56there's a revolving door there. They're the ones pushing all of this policy along. President Trump,

05:03President Biden, President Biden, most of all, an example of just an empty vessel, just signing off

05:09on everything, completely unaware of what is going on. But President Trump also, to a certain extent,

05:14he thinks Spain is the S in bricks. So he's not a guy making decisions and coming up with ideas.

05:21He's just signing off on what is put in front of him. And I encourage people to find this document

05:26is for free. It is public. It wasn't like it was leaked or anything. And this is all the think tanks

05:32do. And they do it with such confidence because they know average people are emotional and they are

05:38going to be driven by their emotions, headlines, public statements. And that's what's going to send them

05:43into their respective directions. They know people aren't going to sit down and read an 170-page

05:48policy paper. Laying this all out, if you read it, it's very frank language. I posted some

05:54screenshots from the document. It's very frank language, admitting that we're going to sabotage

06:00the deal ourselves. And then when we do, we'll blame it on Iran and the whole world will think that

06:06they had a great deal. And then they, for whatever reason, rejected it. And it's all their fault,

06:11all while the US from the very beginning was just looking for a pretext for a war. So that is

06:15exactly what the Trump administration is doing.

06:17Yeah. And I'm glad that you bring that up and I'll link the report below because it's so

06:22interesting to read this out in the open. And I think a lot of people, they look at someone like

06:26Donald Trump and they're like, he doesn't want more, right? He campaigned on the opposite of that.

06:32But as we've talked about before, when you look at the people around him, maybe Trump doesn't want

06:37more, right? Maybe he is genuine and claiming that all he wants to see peace and he wants that to be

06:42his legacy. Well, you look at the people he surrounded himself with and they are the exact

06:47opposite of peace and an end to war. And it's also interesting to, I would also point to the comments

06:54that Trump is actually making because he notably announced that he spoke on the phone with Netanyahu on

07:00Tuesday and said that they talked about a range of issues, including Iran and that quote, the call

07:06went very well. We are on the same side of every issue. So if you're in Iran's position, you've made

07:15it clear, hey, we actually don't want war, right? We're happy to have talks with you. And similar,

07:20it reminds me of kind of what Russia is doing, where they're saying, hey, we're happy to have dialogue.

07:26These are our requirements for a deal if there is ever going to be one. But you look at Iran and

07:33they've already accused Israel of interfering with these talks. They're kind of making it known that

07:39the U.S. is not an honest broker here in the sense that it wants a legitimate deal, because if it did,

07:44it wouldn't have pulled out of the last deal. But you also have Iranian officials in Beijing this week

07:51to brief Chinese officials on these talks that are happening with the U.S.

07:55They did the same thing with Russia last week. Iran is making it clear who their allies are and

08:02the ways in which they can retaliate if they are attacked. So how do you view this buildup where

08:09we know that the U.S. wants to attack? We know that there are going to be serious consequences if they

08:14do. But it's like the U.S. is still pushing for it anyway. Yes. And I think for Iran, it's a mistake to

08:21claim that Israel is interfering in American peace talks. There are no American peace talks. It is the

08:25illusion of a peace talk. And this is laid out again in the policy papers. So what the United States

08:33is trying to do is, again, create a pretext and make it as if it was Iran who desperately wanted

08:42nuclear weapons. The most interesting thing is if you read this policy paper, there was another one

08:47from Rand Corporation, I think also 2009. And again, it could have been written yesterday. And they talk

08:54all about Iran's nuclear program. They admit that Iran does not want nuclear weapons for proliferating it to

09:00non-state actors. They don't want to use it offensively. It is purely defensive in nature.

09:05It is a deterrent. And more than that, they admit that Iran would prefer not to even have nuclear

09:11weapons, just have the ability to create them. And if that could be a deterrent, they would prefer that

09:17than actually having a bomb. And when you're reading this in a U.S. policy paper where they are

09:22drawing up plans to unprovoked war with Iran to commit regime change and subordinate Iran to American

09:30interests. And they're admitting that Iran is not a threat. It's not a threat to the United States.

09:36It's not a threat to U.S. proxies in the region, including Israel. They're admitting this.

09:41And you read this and then you can see that with very clear eyes just how one-sided all of this is

09:47and how it is the U.S. driving this and how they are leveraging people's prejudice. A lot of people

09:55just, I'm not a supporter of the Israeli government or the military. What they do is on par with what

10:02Ukraine has been doing to the Donbass region, but just much longer on a larger scale.

10:06And it's an abomination. But people's hatred for Israel because of that blinds them from stepping back

10:15and looking at the big picture. And a lot of people will say, and you talked about Iran talking with

10:21Russia and China. A lot of people have to understand this is not the U.S. fighting a war for Israel

10:26because Israel's politically captured Washington. Zoom out. Look at the big picture. This is America's

10:30war on multipolarism. Iran is one of the central pillars to this emerging multipolar world. The U.S.

10:37is waging war on Ukraine or on Russia through Ukraine, but I guess you could also say they're

10:43waging a war on Ukraine too. And they're militarily encroaching upon and encircling and trying to contain

10:49China in the Asia-Pacific region. So this is not just about Israel and Iran or Israel and its desires

10:55over the region. Zoom out and see the big picture. This is an American war on multipolarism. The war

11:01on Iran is just one part of it. And that's an interesting point that you bring up because you're

11:05right. I don't see a lot of people making this argument. And I think part of that is, hey, Israel

11:11is the most useful bad guy because they are a bad guy, right? They're carrying out an all-out genocide

11:17against the Palestinians right now. And they're happy and willing to do that. They've made it very clear

11:23in the statements that they have made that have shown clear genocidal intent. And when you're

11:28talking about zooming out, it also makes me think of Syria, right? I mean, we look at what the U.S.

11:34has done to Syria, the conflict that they intentionally created there years ago, the suffering

11:41that they took the Syrian people through, and what they've accomplished, right? They accomplished

11:46regime change in Syria. They didn't happen overnight, but it did happen eventually. Do you think that

11:52that has also kind of played into fueling the fire of thinking, hey, we can get Iran next,

11:58right? Look at all that we've accomplished. That's the next thing on the chessboard. And also kind of

12:04this concern that, hey, yeah, Iranian officials can be going to Russia and China, but do we have a

12:10concrete example that Russia and China are going to stop in and stop this directly? Well, I don't

12:17necessarily know that we do at this point. I would actually say Russia and China

12:22not only won't, they don't have the ability to do this. China does not have a military capable

12:28projecting military power to the Middle East. And while Russia has a very limited ability to do this,

12:35we saw it in Syria and we saw how that turned out. They are heavily invested and they have prioritized

12:42Ukraine above all other commitments. And this is by design. The United States has another policy,

12:48the Rand Corporation has another policy paper titled Extending Russia. It's all about creating

12:53multiple fires all along the periphery and forcing them to overstretch themselves so that they're not

12:58able to commit to any one particular area, focus on and put out the fire, create all of these fires,

13:05overextend them and precipitate a Soviet Union-style collapse. Now, with Iran, I would say

13:17they're trying to buy time. I don't think they believe for even a moment the U.S. wants peace with

13:21them. But as long as they can keep the U.S. talking, that is time I guess the U.S. isn't bombing them.

13:29And what they are probably trying to do is try to appear to the world to be

13:33the more reasonable party, to demonstrate to the world that they want diplomacy, they don't want

13:40war, which is something the U.S. is going to try to portray them as seeking. And we've even seen

13:48Israel strike Iran, strike their consulate in Syria, strike Iran itself. And we've seen the

13:55restraint demonstrated by Iran. Now, you mentioned Syria. This was also in the policy paper. They said

13:59a prerequisite for war on Iran is eliminating its proxy. So Syria was mentioned, Hezbollah and Lebanon

14:07was mentioned. At that time, Ansar Allah was not the player that it is now in the region. But if it

14:13was, that would also have been included in the policy paper. And they said, we need to eliminate these

14:18players from the board, isolate Iran, and then we work on Iran last. And that is exactly what they're

14:24doing. So again, this was never, this was never about, Oh, Israel wants to take over Syria. So

14:30we're going to help them do that. No, this is Iran is a pillar of multipolarism. We want to eliminate

14:35all peer and near peer competitors worldwide. And this is how we're going to do it. And we're going

14:39to use Israel to do this. And the interesting thing is a lot of people say, Brian, look at that paper.

14:44They're all card carrying Zionists who wrote it. Some of them, maybe they're dual citizens even,

14:52but even in the paper, they're not talking about using the US to do this for Israel. They're talking

14:57about using Israel to do this for the United States. So again, it's very important because

15:03we're listening to public comments and they're designed by, they're not telling us the truth.

15:08Obviously they're designed to prey on us emotionally. You can cut through that by just

15:13looking at the blueprint. What are they really building versus what they are telling us they are

15:17building? Yeah. And I think it's a good reminder that going back to 2009, it's like not that much

15:23has actually changed when it comes to these overall goals. And when you're talking about a pillar of

15:29multipolarism, we're looking at a country like Russia right now. And it's interesting to kind of

15:35watch the Trump administration. Obviously they had these talks with Iran. They also have these ongoing

15:40talks with Russia and you see the Trump administration in this place where they seem to be, and I say this

15:48lightly, right? They act like they are trying to put together a proposal to get Russia on board with

15:55a deal. When in reality, the proposal that they're putting together is one that Russia is not going to

16:00accept, right? They're playing this game of saying, oh, hey, we'll recognize Crimea a decade or more than a

16:06decade late, or we'll promise that there will be no NATO membership for Ukraine. Basic things that,

16:12yes, Russia is demanding, but they also are not acknowledging some of the major concerns that

16:19Russia has put forth, which is, okay, if we have any kind of a ceasefire or any kind of a deal,

16:24what does that mean for the Kiev regime and its military? How is NATO going to be directly involved?

16:31Because we know that they are going to be directly involved. How do you view those talks there and

16:37kind of the hope that Trump is going to secure some sort of a deal? When, if you actually look

16:43at the basics of what is being presented, that does not seem remotely possible at this point.

16:49I have been talking about this since February 12th, when US Secretary of Defense, and I think the last

16:54time I was on your show, I also brought up this directive that he laid out to Europe. He said,

17:00you're going to spend more than double on NATO. We're expanding NATO. NATO is the threat Russia

17:06is responding to. And this is what Russia wants to address. And then what is the Trump administration

17:11actually doing? Expanding NATO, not reducing it, not addressing it in any meaningful way,

17:16but expanding it. Secretary Hegset told Europe, you're going to expand your military industrial

17:22production. You're going to double down. He literally said, double down on arming and equipping

17:29Ukraine. You're also going to send European and non-European, not American, European and non-European

17:34troops into Ukraine. Not under article five, because we don't want to get dragged into this.

17:40We don't even want that to be a possibility. You are the next proxies in line. We have fed

17:46Ukraine into this proxy war and they are about to collapse. Now you're going in and you will either

17:52freeze this or Russia will have to make the decision. Do they stop or do they continue and wage war

17:58directly against essentially NATO forces in Ukraine? And that's what he laid out. It was

18:03a Syria style freeze. And we see where that led. Plus a Minsk three framework. I've been saying this

18:10since Secretary Hegset laid this directive out and people said, no, that's not going to happen.

18:15Maybe Secretary Hegset went off script. No, this is literally what they have been doing ever since.

18:20And people were saying, Europe is sabotaging Trump's peace talks because they're talking about sending

18:24troops into Ukraine. Secretary Hegset told them to, they're just doing exactly what the US told them

18:30to do. There's all of this talk in Germany about just emptying their arsenal into Ukraine and expanding

18:38the military, their military industrial base, not, not their civilian industrial base, their military

18:43industrial base to take over for the United States. Why? What did Secretary Hegset say the purpose of all of

18:49this was a division of labor to maintain American empire? The US needs to focus on China. You didn't

18:56they, they physically literally do not have the ability to deal with Russia and China on their own.

19:02They are assigning their European proxies to at least freeze the conflict in Ukraine and lock Russia in,

19:09in Ukraine so that they can't help Iran. They can't go help China. And then the United States will deal

19:15with China. And then at a later date, they will circle around and restart facilities with Russia

19:20and Ukraine, which is what they have done over and over and over again. It's one, it's two. We

19:26remember before even that there were, there was a deal supposedly made to stop the euro made in the US

19:32overthrow of the elected Ukrainian government that was betrayed. Multiple arms control treaties were

19:38betrayed by the Bush Jr. administration, the first Trump administration. And then that was used to

19:44encircle Russia with a growing arsenal of long range missiles and anti-missile systems. And so this,

19:51this is a buildup to contain Russia, Iran, China, and eventually absorb all three into a unipolar world

20:00order subordinated to the United States, the special interests in the US, not, not the American people.

20:06Obviously they're, they're among the victims of all of this.

20:09Dan, it's been so interesting to watch as, you know, everything that you're laying out there is

20:13a reminder that this has been years in the making, right? This did not happen overnight. These policy

20:19papers were not written just because Trump got reelected or because Biden was in office. No,

20:24this has been across party lines. They're all one big party at the end of the day. And when you're

20:31looking at how Russia is dealing with this, and I know we've kind of talked about this, there's almost

20:36kind of been a fear that NATO would put forth a deal that the US would say, hey, you know what,

20:41Russia, we're going to give you X, Y, Z. We're going to make it look like we're giving you everything

20:46that you want. Recognize, you know, these new five territories as part of the Russian Federation.

20:52We're going to keep Zelensky in check and on and on. So far, the US is not doing that, which is

20:57actually kind of interesting to me because it almost makes it easier for Russia just to say, no,

21:02we're not taking that deal because you're not addressing these demands. When it comes to the

21:08position that Europe is playing in all of this, because I do think that that's one thing that

21:12you've really been highlighting is that, look, there's not this massive break between the US and

21:18Europe, right? They want to make it look like, and I don't think that Trump particularly likes

21:22Emmanuel Macron or Keir Starmer or dealing with them. But as we're seeing from these talks that are

21:28happening in London today, the US is still very much working with its European allies,

21:35vassal states, whatever you want to call them. It's still very much using them. What do you make

21:41of the role that Kiev and Zelensky is kind of playing in all of this? Because Zelensky is still

21:46saying, hey, we're not going to recognize these territories. That's never going to happen. Is that

21:51part of the bigger plan to kind of try to wrangle Zelensky into a deal and then get Russia to say

21:58an outright no? Or is that just another piece to the puzzle at this point?

22:03I mean, that sounds plausible because you can see the buildup. You can see the US is now talking

22:09about recognizing Crimea before they said no way that would ever happen. They've been talking about

22:15all these other regions Russia has absorbed into the Russian Federation now at this point,

22:21under their own constitution, recognizing that. You said no NATO for Ukraine, but

22:30what guarantee could the United States possibly give Russia for them to ever buy this?

22:36The moment President Trump's, if it was a genuine proposal, which it isn't, but let's just pretend for

22:41a moment that it was. The moment he steps out of office, who's to say it's not going to be reversed

22:46by the next person in office? And who's to say Europe isn't going to somehow undermine that? Does

22:53the United States have unilateral complete control over NATO? I would say, yes, they do, but there's

22:59many ways they can make it look like, oh, it wasn't us. It was Europe. They let them in. So there's so

23:04many ways they can backtrack on all of this. And then once you have the European forces in Ukraine,

23:11you have completely frozen this. And if you corner Russia and force them to commit to a ceasefire,

23:21it will be so much more difficult for Russia to restart hostilities with European troops there in

23:28Ukraine. It's not impossible, but it would be very difficult on all levels, militarily, diplomatically,

23:34politically, economically. It would be very difficult. Now, you were talking about this

23:40developing deal that the U.S. is offering Russia without ever actually touching on the core of the

23:46issue. This is a U.S. war on Russia. And the U.S. is pretending that it's some sort of mediator between

23:52Russia and Ukraine. It's America's war, and they are fighting it through Ukraine. And the U.S. could end it at

23:58any moment. There's no reason for the U.S. to be fighting this war in the first place. It has crossed

24:02an ocean and half a continent to start this war with Russia. And as you said, over many, many years,

24:07this was since the end of the Cold War, 2004, there was an admitted attempt by the U.S. to overthrow

24:13the government in Ukraine. Then they overthrew the government of Georgia the year before that.

24:18They built it up and had Georgian forces attack Russian forces in 2008. And then they did the

24:25exact same thing successfully with Ukraine from 2014 up to where we are right now. So

24:32it's so obvious what they're actually trying to do. Now, again, I hate to keep going back to the

24:38policy papers, but in the one regarding Iran, they are talking about offering Iran a superb deal. That's

24:46the term they use, a superb deal, one so great. And Iran would reject it because they know they're

24:52being lied to, but the rest of the world won't know that because of the influence Western media has

24:58over the global public. And it would look as if Iran was rejecting this deal because they were

25:05intent on obtaining, not just obtaining nuclear weapons, but for all the wrong reasons. And this is

25:11exactly what they're setting Russia up for right now. When we listen to U.S. Secretary of State

25:15Marco Rubio say, we're trying so hard for peace and they're just being so difficult. And if they

25:22don't agree to something, it's your war. It is your war. But he's saying, if they don't agree to

25:28something in the next couple of days, we're just going to wash our hands of our own war that we

25:33started and we could end. And so it's so obvious. You could see it from a mile away. This is what they

25:39are setting up. I don't know how far they're going to go with this act. Like you said, they are

25:44pretending that there is some sort of divide between Europe and the United States. President

25:47Trump is in charge of nothing. So it doesn't matter if European leaders like him or not.

25:52He's not the one coming up with these ideas and telling them to do it. The unelected special

25:57interests that run both sides of the Atlantic are telling them to do this. So will they have Ukraine

26:03finally say, OK, we agree to everything. And they put Russia in this impossible position where they have

26:08to say, no, because we know you're lying to us. But the rest of the world isn't going to see it

26:13that way because of the influence the West still has over information.

26:18Yeah, I feel like if Marco Rubio is the one saying, we really want peace,

26:22then that's got to be the biggest signal that he does not mean when he says, I do not buy the

26:28Rubio makeover. I'm like, no, this guy has been.

26:30Yeah, I don't want to interrupt. But when he's talking about peace with Russia,

26:36you could see out his face. He's just barely holding back like a smile or just outright

26:41laughing because he's he's he's lying. He's just lying straight through his teeth.

26:46Yeah, it's like I think that I was saying it when he made that comment about, oh, you know,

26:52it's not normal to have a unipolar world, right? We're all for the multipolar world. I'm like,

26:57this guy is saying what he needs to say because he thinks that that is what people want to hear.

27:02And that is what people want to hear. Right. Even the American people are like,

27:06you know what? We agree. We want the US to be friendlier. We don't want war with Russia and

27:11China. Look, it's Marco Rubio telling us that. And alas, now we're kind of seeing his true colors

27:17coming out a little bit, which we all should have known because obviously he's been in the public eye

27:21and has been a very vocal proponent of never meeting a war he didn't like. Now, speaking of

27:29the other side of that coin, we, of course, have to talk about China because you have the Trump

27:35administration in this place where they decided that they wanted to escalate this trade war with

27:40China. They get tariffs up to 145%. And now you have US Treasury Secretary Scott Besson admitting in a

27:50speech that the ongoing tariffs are unsustainable, saying that he expects a deescalation. Trump has

27:57kind of said a version of this. And I know that you've been covering the fact that, look,

28:03the US is painting itself into a corner here, right? It's isolating itself from the rest of the world,

28:08because not only is China not entirely reliant on trade with the US, but China has a lot of other

28:15countries that can trade with. Oh, and on top of that, Trump is also putting tariffs on countries

28:20around the world. So it's making the US look more unstable while making China look like a very stable

28:27trading partner that countries around the world can work with. How do you view the current state of

28:33the trade war? Is there room for quote unquote deescalation? And are we supposed to buy that at

28:39all if we do see the US and China pull back on these tariffs? I think people have to be, and myself

28:47included, we have to be very careful about all of this. And we cannot just say, oh, Trump is backing

28:53off. So victory for the multipolar world, that's very dangerous to do. A lot of people did that when the

28:58conflict in Syria froze and look at how that ended. So I'm constantly warning people not to underestimate

29:04the United States. The United States has no intention of competing equally or out-competing

29:09China. They know they cannot. It's impossible. And in many ways, these comments that you were just

29:16referencing, they're admitting this. But that's not their goal. Their goal is to knock China down to

29:21an equal or lower level than the US, not for the US to climb up and above and surpass China. That's

29:27their goal. And they are putting the pieces in place to achieve this. This obsession with the

29:33Panama Canal, Greenland, this was all done openly with Russian and Chinese maritime shipping in mind

29:41as a reason for doing it. The United States under the Biden administration, just to prove how this is

29:47bipartisan, it's not a Trump policy, it's not a Biden policy, it's a deep state policy that both

29:52administrations and all administrations before that have upheld. Reorganizing the US military and the

29:59US Marine Corps in particular to be an anti-shipping force solely to operate in and around the Asia

30:07Pacific region, or they call it the Indo-Pacific region. The US military buildup in the Philippines,

30:14politically captured. So you were talking about how obvious it is that the US is unstable,

30:20abusive, exploitative, and how stable and sound a partnership with China is. I'm in a country that

30:27has a close relationship with China. I can see with my own eyes material benefits this has for

30:33absolutely everybody in society here from top to bottom. It would be in the Philippines' best interest

30:40to work with China, but they aren't. Why aren't they? And the answer is America's capacity to target and

30:46politically capture not just one nation, but many nations around the globe. All of Europe,

30:51for example, look at what they have coerced Europe into doing vis-a-vis Russia and the destructive

30:57consequences that it's had for Europe. They're doing the exact same thing here in Asia to Japan,

31:03to South Korea, to the Philippines, and then further south in Australia. And they have politically

31:10infiltrated and are attempting to still, to this day, politically capture nations like Thailand,

31:16where I'm based. I just saw the US-backed political party walking up and down the streets

31:21for local elections. They're still at it. They're still trying to worm their way into every aspect of

31:27life here to not just convince, capture it politically and at a policy level, but also

31:36manage public perception to convince Thai people, just like they're convincing people in the Philippines,

31:42China's your enemy and the collective West, which tried to colonize you, or in the Philippines case,

31:47the US literally colonized the Philippines. We're your allies and we're looking out for your best

31:52interests and turning yourself into the next Ukraine. This is your future. This is how you're going to

31:57fight and defend your future. And it's insane, but it doesn't matter if it makes no sense,

32:02because once you politically capture a government, they do whatever Washington tells them, no matter

32:07what the cost is for the actual country itself. Ukraine is a living, or I should say dying example

32:14of this. And now they're doing this to the Philippines. They have been doing it to Japan, South Korea,

32:19the island province of Taiwan, which is actually under international law, part of China. They're doing

32:23that to Taiwan. So it is a huge and growing problem. It doesn't matter that what the US is doing makes

32:30no sense and is unattractive. If you look at it rationally or logically, their ability to politically

32:36capture these, these countries short circuits that doesn't, doesn't matter. They're going to go and do

32:42it anyway. So this is what the multipolar world is up against. They have to, I would say that the

32:48multipolar worlds, China, Russia, Iran, many other nations are working together to defend

32:54multipolarism. But I still feel like there's a deficit in exposing and dealing with US political

33:03infiltration through media, protecting information space, education, political systems. This is still

33:13working in America's favor. And in order to really secure a multipolar future,

33:19the multipolar world needs to focus on this more. And as you're laying it out there, it's making me

33:24think of why the propaganda war is so important to them, right? I mean, we see it all the time.

33:31People will go to China and they'll post videos and they'll say, this is what life is like here,

33:35right? These are the innovations or the things that they have in their society that the American

33:41people could not even begin to dream of because that's just not a reality here in the US. Our

33:47government does not care about us. They do not care about our way of life, our streets or anything

33:53like that. They care about continuing US hegemony, continuing to make sure that the US is the dominant

34:01power around the world. And we're seeing that in the way that our industries have been run and how

34:06we've seen such a transition towards furthering the military industrial complex and on and on. But

34:14it also serves as a reminder of why there's so much pushback against conversations like the ones

34:19that we're having, right? And we saw this with Ukraine where it's like, okay, the push needs to be

34:26Ukraine good, Russia bad. Don't talk about any context. Don't talk about how the US has played a

34:32significant role. How this is, as you were noting, the US war here, they are the dominant factor.

34:39And you look at the ways in which this is still being implemented. And I think social media has

34:45a big factor here. Elon Musk is a big factor there, right? Of convincing the people in the West,

34:51you are free, you have free speech, you can say whatever you want. Just don't pay attention to

34:58all of the speech that we're not wanting you to talk about. When it comes to the role that kind

35:03of the propaganda war is playing in today's age, and really this illusion, right? This illusion that

35:10we are the good guys, we have it made over here, we have freedom. And all of those countries on the

35:16other side of the world that we're actively bombing, they are the ones that do not. How has that been an

35:22important pillar? And how do you think it will continue to play the central role in what the US

35:28is doing? Because I guess in some ways, that's kind of all they have here. Well, yes, it's very

35:34powerful. In the United States, we know it's extremely powerful because you have huge percentages

35:39of the population that voted for President Trump and are still clinging to the hope that he's going

35:44to make good on all of his promises, even as he openly, blatantly, even bragging about how he's

35:52upturning all of them. But the US propaganda war abroad, I think is even more dangerous because

35:58I have watched it work its way into a targeted country. And I can see how it subverts the public

36:05against their own best interests. So they're cheering on a political process that is destroying

36:12their country, destroying their future. We watched this take place in Ukraine. Like you said,

36:16it didn't happen overnight. It happened from 2004 to 2014. We remember around 2013, 2014,

36:24Victoria Nuland in her capacity at the State Department bragging about how the US sunk $5

36:29billion into Ukraine's internal political affairs to shape it and push it in that direction. And then

36:36convincing the Ukrainian people that somehow Russia is their enemy, Europe is their future,

36:41NATO is their future, and to just dive head first into the wood chipper of proxy war against Russia.

36:48And we're watching their country be destroyed almost brick by brick. And look at the outcome. But

36:56that's what they convinced them to do. That is the power of propaganda. And this is why it's so important.

37:02I mean, the alternative media, I think, you know, I do this because I don't see the multipolar world doing

37:08enough, you know, at a official government level to fight back against this. You know, I'm glad that

37:15there's outlets like RT, CGTN, Sputnik. I'm glad they're out there. But there's so much more, I think,

37:23that they could and should be doing. I also look at countries like, say, Thailand, there's so much that

37:28they need to do to secure their own information space. And if you talk to people, they understand that

37:37what the US is doing is an obvious threat. But they, you know, they don't see Twitter,

37:41now X, Facebook, Meta, all of these social media platforms that are based in the US,

37:47ultimately controlled by the US, including the content on it. And the algorithm is the unseen

37:52hand, the invisible hand that is deciding what people see and don't see. And so they think,

37:58well, we put our content on there, and it's the truth, and truth will out. And no, it doesn't,

38:03because the algorithm hits the truth over the head, clobbers it, drags it down into the alley,

38:08and all people see is the lies. And it works. And it convinces people, not because people are dumb,

38:15because they have a lot to do. They're busy managing their own lives. They have, you know,

38:20a certain bandwidth that they can commit to following politics. They don't have the ability to do it full

38:26time like we can. And which isn't even easy to do, as you know. And so it works. And they're able to

38:35convince people to work against their best interests. Look at the Arab Spring, that was artificial,

38:40they convinced an entire region of the planet to burn itself to the ground. And it's still suffering

38:46the consequences of that to this day. And here in Southeast Asia, Thailand's neighbor to the west,

38:54Myanmar has been at war with itself for decades. This is a U.S. proxy war against the central

38:59government. And again, you look at Myanmar, you look at the Philippines, and you look at Thailand,

39:05Thailand has done a better job, but it needs to do much, much more, I would say. But you can see

39:11the consequences of failure and what it does. It is existential. And so having a powerful military

39:17means nothing if the U.S. can convince your people not to get into the tanks and jets that you paid for

39:23and lined up. Or they'll get into them, but point them in the wrong direction.

39:29Securing your information space is the most important. I mean, information space is a domain

39:35of national security. And you'd be surprised how many nations still don't see it that way

39:40in their policy. Yeah, the U.S. has figured this out on a level that I do agree. I think countries

39:46around the world, they need to start realizing what the U.S. is doing and how it's been written

39:53in the policy papers, right? It's there. These plans have been there all along. That needs to be

39:59common reading for a number of countries around the world that are dealing with the U.S. and wondering

40:04why they're still being targeted, especially if the U.S. is openly saying, hey, we want to talk to you,

40:09right? We want to make a deal because as we've seen time and time again, that usually means the

40:15opposite or it means that that specific country, as in the case of Iran, Russia, China, that it,

40:22the U.S. is setting it up to be its next target. Certainly a lot at stake here all around. And I

40:28really appreciate you taking the time to join me today to break down all of the latest here.

40:34Brian Berletic, a geopolitical analyst and host of the new Atlas. Thank you so much for your time

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