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The Met S04E02
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00:00Right morning everybody, I appreciate we're coming towards the end of our encore period
00:12but there is a matter that's brewing on Central North and that's of a high-risk missing person.
00:19She's a 20-year-old young lady, her name is Agnes Acom and she's from Hungary.
00:24The last sight in is on Cricklewood Broadway on the 9th of May at approximately 11 or 2 in the morning.
00:33She's someone who's been on social media quite regularly, she has accounts with Facebook and TikTok.
00:39That's a recent picture of her in London, since then she hasn't used any social media whatsoever.
00:44Here she is, yeah, we've got some good images that we can put out if need be.
00:47At around 10, 20 a.m., she went to Acosta Coffee, ordered a drink, we know that because she used her bank card to pay for it.
00:58So we can see Agnes across the road here.
01:00Yeah.
01:01You can see a car here pulling in.
01:05There she's getting into the car.
01:07With all the cars coming down, it's nice and clear when it comes down here.
01:11Just see if you can pause that when it gets a bit closer.
01:14There we go.
01:17Very good picture of her in the front.
01:21This is the last sighting of Agnes.
01:23Clearly whoever's driving that car is a person of interest at the very least.
01:27And I'll want to speak to him or her to work out exactly why Agnes was in the car and where they were going and when is the last time that they saw her.
01:36A serving metropolitan police officer has been charged with kidnap, rape and murder.
01:51A damning report found it to be institutionally racist, misogynistic and homophobic.
02:00The Met Commissioner, Sir Mark Rowley, has vowed to restore the public's trust and confidence in the police.
02:07Policing needs to be the best and we've totally failed in this regard.
02:10He's very choking me.
02:24I'm from the Modern Slavery team.
02:25How's your English?
02:26Give her justice and tell us where that poor girl's body is.
02:31Straight red, straight red.
02:33Woo!
02:34Woo!
02:34Woo!
02:35Woo!
02:36Woo!
02:36Woo!
02:37Woo!
02:38Stay where you are!
02:40You are under arrest on Station Mariner.
02:47Leave Chip alone!
02:50What are you doing?
02:51Let us go!
02:51Let us go!
02:53Do you really think that this is an overkill?
02:55There's 10 of you here for one 14-year-old.
03:10This is Agnes Ackham, a typical 20-something-year-old female, an active social life.
03:24Came to the UK approximately three years ago.
03:27Nine days she's been missing now is a long time.
03:32We've been in touch with her mum, who's in Hungary, who's also commented that it's very unusual
03:39for Agnes not to be in touch for this period of time.
03:47Concern for Agnes has triggered a major investigation within specialist crime, involving detectives
03:54that handle the Mets' most complex cases.
04:01Everyone here desperately wants to find her, you know, and alive and well.
04:07The silver car seen on CCTV picking Agnes up in Cricklewood has been identified as registered
04:14to an address in Notting Hill, three miles south of where Agnes was last seen.
04:20That vehicle is registered here to Nicolai Paizan.
04:25Born November 1957, he's a Romanian national.
04:29We believe that Agnes got into his car, but we don't know what's happened after that.
04:33We're here in the hope that we can find where he is, speak to him about what he might know.
04:38Certainly, we think he'll have valuable information.
04:41The main thing is, is she here?
04:44Hi, how are you doing?
04:49Sorry to bother you, we're just from the police.
04:51Who's the owner of this house here?
04:54So, we're investigating a missing girl.
04:57This is the person, who we thought might live here, you see,
05:00who's involved with the disappearance of this girl.
05:03Do you recognise him?
05:05He used my house.
05:07Ah.
05:07Yeah, but he's not living in this house.
05:09So, okay, so he uses your address post.
05:13Have you seen him in the last week?
05:15Yeah, I see him.
05:16Maybe Saturday, Sunday.
05:18Okay.
05:18I'll tell you what we really need and what you can do to help is to let us look in here to see if she's here, all right?
05:29If she's here?
05:30Yeah.
05:30His car is registered to that address.
05:41We're probably not getting the full story, shall we say.
05:44But I think we've got enough information.
05:46We've had a look in there.
05:47She's not in there.
05:48There's a lot of intelligence and inquiries going on in the background.
05:59So, Nikolai Paisan, what we know at the moment is he is a cement mixed lorry driver and a handyman.
06:09We believe he's been in the UK for over 20 years.
06:11As detectives try to locate Nikolai Paisan, they discover he rents a storage container that sits behind a used car dealership in West London.
06:27Finding it locked, detectives ask the fire brigade to break in.
06:31There is no sign of Agnes, but there is a CCTV camera pointing at the container's front door that was recording the day Agnes went missing.
06:46So, this is where his lockup is.
06:48Oh, yeah.
06:52So, that is 1048.
07:01Oh, bloody hell.
07:10Here he is.
07:13She's sort of leading the way.
07:18He lets her in.
07:26We don't then see him for three hours.
07:31And then us, just after three o'clock road time, comes out on the road and appears to lock it from the outside.
07:42Goes to the car.
07:44She's not been seen, but we have watched for two hours and she didn't come out.
07:53That's weird.
07:54The last sighting of her is going into that unit.
08:01So, I'm going to go and have a look around the side and see what else there is and we'll look to get it sealed off.
08:08He's looking at the footage, trying to see if she comes out, which she hasn't yet.
08:14It's a case of watching the hollow.
08:16It's nine days worth.
08:17Yeah.
08:30So, if you come down here, so this camera here looks all the way down there and covers the whole of the lockup.
08:36James is still watching, but this is, he's locked this up beforehand and then driven off.
08:43But then, right, so this, this is a bit weird.
08:47When you get round the back, there's a door at the back.
08:51You'll see it is like a little hatch that's been cut out.
08:54So, you can get in and out if you wanted to.
08:58The rear door leads only to a dead end at the back of the alleyway.
09:02You'd have to be scaling walls and razor wire, highly unlikely.
09:09Really, the only viable way in and out is this way.
09:13Bit of a bizarre set up, but we're not going to go in there.
09:16We're going to let the forensic lady work on magic.
09:19And I suppose the other thing it tells me is the CCTV is going to be really telling.
09:24So, we're going to have to watch the full duration of the nine days she's missing on that one camera on the front of the container.
09:30If she's gone in and she hasn't come out, where is she?
09:41Hello, Ben.
09:42Yeah, good, Drew.
09:43While the search for Paisan continues, detectives look at Agnes' online profile and contacts in the hope it will provide clues as to where she might be.
09:52We've now been able to speak to friends and family, and we've got a much better picture who Agnes actually is.
10:01I mean, looking at her social media, it's not that different to what you would expect to find on another 20-year-old's Facebook page.
10:09Lots of selfies, different poses, having fun, lots of different coloured hair.
10:15We think she came over here with her boyfriend who had a job that we think maybe didn't materialise.
10:21And they found themselves over here without any sort of structure or support around them, and found themselves begging and living on the street.
10:31It does seem that she did have a couple of older male friends that she had a kind of sexual relationship with, where they may buy her some clothes, they may transfer her some money.
10:43And it seems that Nikolai Paisan is one of these people.
10:52While police embark on a forensic search of Paisan's container, he unexpectedly turns up.
11:03Hi, Brian.
11:07He has turned up.
11:11Yeah.
11:13Paisan agrees to come to the station voluntarily for questioning.
11:19A significant development, yes.
11:21He's within our custody as a witness.
11:26And once we've got his account, we'll assess that, and we'll take it from there.
11:32There still could be a reasonable, plausible explanation for all of this.
11:36Officers can now begin a detailed forensic search of the container.
11:50Well, it's like it's a dwelling. It's sort of half workshop, half dwelling.
12:09It's just a shipping container, split in half. Looks like he lives in one side, and stores his tools in the other.
12:18You can imagine the nightmare this is going to be to search, and we will, everything, every inch of it.
12:27Agnes has dropped off the planet. She's completely disappeared without a trace. We hope there is an innocent explanation. You know, it's not criminal to disappear and want the world to leave you alone. We hope that's what it is.
12:48At the back of the container, on top of a set of drawers, there's a Bible. You kept going back to that and freezing on the corner of that.
12:57Okay.
12:58The dog has signalled that it's found areas of interest in the dwelling area, and also on the spine of a Bible. The scientists have found that the Bible's spine has tested positive for blood.
13:18Maybe nothing, maybe highly significant. So that is a swab we're going to send up to the lab urgently.
13:28So the family, there's going to be a conference call to mum in Hungary. We're going to put Agnes' picture out through the press. Agnes is still a high risk missing person, and there is an obligation on us all to sort of publicise that as much as we can in the media.
13:47Priorities today, CCTV, can you keep viewing? Make sure 100% there's no power outages, there's no gaps in that footage.
13:55Over 40 officers have now been assigned to the case.
14:02One of the key priorities is to continue viewing the CCTV that looks at the container, which is the focus of our attention at the moment.
14:12So we've done in excess of 30 hours, and there's probably in the region of six and a half days to continue to look at.
14:19I think it's perfectly feasible that Agnes may have been in that container for a number of days.
14:27And what's to say she doesn't walk out in the next ten hours? I just don't know.
14:34Still being treated as a witness, detectives begin audio recording an interview with Paisan, deliberately withholding what they know from the CCTV to see how his account compares.
14:49She messages you to say she wants to pick up. You drive to Cricklewood and pick her up, and then you take her to your container.
15:03Why did you do that?
15:06Why did you do that?
15:11So why did you go in?
15:13I entered because I entered, I went to the floor so that we loved the house.
15:18Or, like how to say it, faces a little bit of fun, but not sex.
15:24Well, they kept me on the phone, they took me right up and then threw me on the phone.
15:29They ignored me, and they said, we are fine.
15:31She said, leave me in peace and I gave her some money.
15:38OK, so how long was she in there?
15:4025 minutes, 20 minutes.
15:42And which door did she use on the way out?
15:44All there.
15:45OK.
15:46And what did you do?
15:47She put her in the car and put her in the car.
15:53What time was your arrest?
15:54The arrest was at 23, 28.
15:56The suspect has said she came out approximately 15 minutes later,
16:01but the CCTV does not support that.
16:04There is only one decision at this time, and that's for him to be arrested.
16:07Now, that doesn't say he's guilty of anything.
16:10And I haven't given up hope yet that Agnes is going to appear at some point
16:15and say, what's all this fuss about?
16:17Would you like a solicitor?
16:19No.
16:20I'm not guilty about that.
16:22I wait to finish the investigation.
16:25Yeah.
16:26The biggest challenge for us now, we will have up to 36 hours in police detention.
16:32Turn down for me.
16:33To find sufficient evidence to either prove or disprove his involvement,
16:41that clock will soon go down.
16:44We've got to work out exactly what happened on the 9th of May in that container.
16:50Having obtained Agnes' DNA profile from a hairbrush in her flat,
16:55forensics begin an examination of Paisanne's card.
16:58So it's showing a positive response to being possibly blood.
17:05In the boot so far, we've found three areas of blood.
17:12Could be, yeah, his blood, someone else's blood.
17:15Until the blood goes to the lab and they get a profile, we won't know.
17:22We've now viewed 102 hours, which is broken up between days where several different people have been viewing.
17:35Detectives have now watched over half of the 200 hours of CCTV footage covering the container.
17:56Paisanne has come and gone several times at all different hours, sometimes carrying sort of bits of wood,
18:04sometimes with bags, still no sign of Agnes.
18:08They've also found footage of Paisanne coming into the dealership, six days after she went missing.
18:15So it's the day when he walks into the office and he's talking to the staff.
18:27And he looks up at the CCTV screen.
18:29He's looking at the different camera angles to see what the cameras are picking up,
18:45and what they may have picked up.
18:47With no CCTV evidence so far to show Agnes leaving the container,
19:01the team are now reconsidering if she could have left via another exit.
19:06You've got to have a door there.
19:07Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
19:09It looks, it's all fixed.
19:10Okay.
19:12By the rear of the container is an entrance leading to a derelict warehouse.
19:18Although the door is barricaded, they can't rule out the possibility that Paisanne may previously have had access.
19:25There's an entrance there then that takes you into the derelict building,
19:29which can be accessed by a panel that's been cut out on the side of the container.
19:34That would allow him and anybody else to travel around and in the building,
19:38out of sight of the CCTV cameras.
19:41Police have now forced to open the gate, which was bolted shut.
19:48Just got to watch that long bolt there.
19:50Yep.
19:51So it's just a labyrinth of rooms, builder's bags.
20:05So we're going to run a dog through and the dog will detect blood and give us a good idea if,
20:10you know, carpets have been lifted or, you know, if things are hidden behind walls and mattresses.
20:19Mysterious and mysterious.
20:20Hello.
20:30It's okay, stay there.
20:32Um, Mr. Paisanne, I'm pulling my mask off so you can see my face.
20:37We met at yours, yeah?
20:39A deus Brian Jones.
20:41Overnight in custody, Paisanne causes himself serious harm.
20:46As I understand it, he's been taken into custody, he's been searched,
20:51and then when he's been placed in his cell, he has had access to a sharp armament,
20:56which I think is a razor blade.
20:58And it's my understanding that he's self-harmed in his wrists and other parts of his body.
21:03It'd be very easy for me to jump to conclusions and think,
21:06well, that's a sign of a guilty man trying to harm himself.
21:09I don't know.
21:11While in hospital, the custody clock is paused and he cannot be formally questioned by police.
21:18In these circumstances, with Agnes still missing,
21:22the rules of government police allow us to ask only one key question
21:27around her possible location and safety.
21:28Yes.
21:30So I listen to me very carefully.
21:32My question is, where is Agnes?
21:33I don't know.
21:34He's gone from me.
21:36He's gone from you?
21:37Yeah.
21:38I did him yesterday.
21:40He's gone from me.
21:41Okay.
21:42That's fine.
21:43That's all I'm here to do is to try and find her location.
21:50It's what it is.
21:52It's frustrating.
21:53There's a setback.
21:55Agnes could still be out there and could be in need of some help.
22:00It's now been 11 days, but we still have to keep going.
22:03See, this drain was all covered up with this thing.
22:20Yeah.
22:21See, that's the sort of thing I'm thinking about.
22:22So that, we're getting to look at that.
22:23Yeah.
22:24With the custody clock paused, detectives continue investigating and are hunting for clues at the container.
22:31The dog's indicated this area is an area of significance.
22:34So we're just sort of having a look in there to see if there's anything untoward inside.
22:41It's very bizarre still.
22:44There's no quick wins or clear answers.
22:48Police are also searching Unit 9, the derelict warehouse next door.
22:55So all the scene's been done.
22:59Seems we've had a pole cam up there and visual says, no, nothing.
23:04No, no, that's interesting.
23:05That's suspicious.
23:06That adds context.
23:07Yeah.
23:08It could be that something maybe was placed on that carpet and they were standing on the carpet and rather than leave it there, just cut the carpet out.
23:20That doesn't make any sense.
23:21It's got to be that side.
23:23With the possibility that Agnes could have left via the warehouse, Detective Chris Howell checks the CCTV on the other side of the building.
23:32There he is there.
23:33There he is.
23:34Hi, Chris.
23:35You all right?
23:36Just one sec, because the governor's here.
23:37So I'll just put you on loudspeaker.
23:38OK, cool.
23:39So around about 38 minutes past three on the 9th of May.
23:40Our suspect drives in in his silver car and he reverses up towards the door of Unit 9.
23:41He's slightly in shot, so he can see one side of the car.
23:42Then he gets out, goes to the back of the car and you can't see him.
23:43Then he gets out, goes to the back of the car and you can't see him.
23:44I then go to Unit 7 and there's a camera.
23:45It's not very clear.
23:46It's very blurry.
23:47But it faces down the building line.
23:48And you can see coming out of the vehicle.
23:49So around about 38 minutes past three on the 9th of May.
23:54Our suspect drives in in his silver car and he reverses up towards the door of Unit 9.
24:00He's slightly in shot, so he can see one side of the car.
24:04Then he gets out, goes to the back of the car and you can't see him.
24:07I then go to Unit 7 and there's a camera.
24:10It's not very clear.
24:11It's very blurry.
24:12But it faces down the building line.
24:14And you can see coming out of Unit 9, you can see a very blurry image.
24:22But you can see a very light coloured quite large object being taken out of the door.
24:29Then there's a pause of what I think is probably him opening the boot of the car.
24:34And then the object gets put, you can see kind of feel it's lift, being lifted up and into the car.
24:40All you can see is a large light blurry object.
24:44I feel it's a heavy object being dragged out.
24:47Into the car.
24:48That's how it looks.
24:49OK.
24:50The bag that he's put in the back of the car.
24:53Heavy item inside.
24:55Very suspicious.
24:57Oh, Brian.
24:58I'm going to put you on speaker.
24:59Just bear with me.
25:00I've just forwarded the DNA report to you all.
25:01Confirming that the blood on the rubber seal in the back of the suspect's car matches Agnes.
25:14Wow.
25:15Wow.
25:16Wow.
25:17If the blood in the boot is Agnes, that correlating with the...
25:26CCTV imagery.
25:27I've got a really bad feeling that this is going to be a very sad ending.
25:33Still no contact with family, friends, no banking, no social media.
25:41We strongly suspect that she has lost her life.
25:45Now, it is very much a murder investigation.
25:50After nearly three days in hospital, Paisan has returned and his custody clock has been restarted.
26:08There's now just 24 hours left to either charge or bail him.
26:15He was evaluated by a psych team and they've deemed him fit to be detained and interviewed.
26:21Detectives Mike Davidson and Sarah Stancombe are preparing to question him for a second time, challenging him with a CCTV evidence.
26:34That's the last time she's seen alive.
26:36Tell me where Agnes is.
26:40Tell me where Agnes is.
26:41Tell me where Agnes is.
26:42I told her that she left when I said she left.
26:48She didn't leave.
26:49She didn't leave.
26:50She didn't leave.
26:51I saw her leaving.
26:52You saw the camera on the container, yeah?
26:53Yes.
26:54I saw the camera on the container, yeah?
26:55Yes.
26:56Yes.
26:57Yes.
26:58Yes.
26:59So we've watched it and watched and watched and watched for hours and hours and hours and hours.
27:13We've watched it.
27:14Maybe there was a mistake, right?
27:15Maybe there was a mistake, right?
27:16There was no mistake.
27:17There is no mistake.
27:18There is no mistake.
27:19Paizan is also questioned about the derelict warehouse, which police have discovered he has an arrangement with the landlord to clear out.
27:30Your car?
27:31Yeah.
27:32There appears to be what looks like a co-object going in your car.
27:38What's inside that bag?
27:45Plaster board, ganoi, all kinds of houses from the back.
27:55Is Agnes in your car?
27:57No.
27:58Agnes has left.
27:59No.
28:00Agnes has left.
28:03I think we know Agnes hadn't left.
28:05No.
28:06You killed her.
28:07No.
28:08He's within our custody, but I can't keep him indefinitely.
28:25He's not being charged with anything yet.
28:28Other than a little bit of blood in the back of his car, there's no real strong evidence at this time.
28:33We have got to prove beyond any doubt that he is responsible for this tragic murder.
28:40And the biggest missing piece of evidence at the moment is Agnes' body.
28:44That is a worry.
28:45So, two minutes again.
28:46So, 15.59.
28:47Yeah.
28:48And what was that again, do you think?
28:49So, it's going south of Longstead.
28:50In their hunt for conclusive evidence against Paisan, the team now focuses on where he went
29:01after loading the heavy object into his car.
29:04Because that's a ring road, so he'd go under there and up there.
29:06So, that wouldn't...
29:07We want to cut him off.
29:08Absolutely.
29:09The journey took place just a few hours after Agnes was last seen entering the container.
29:16There's a lot of activity going around, tracking the vehicle.
29:19When it left, there's a circuitous route for about an hour.
29:24And somewhere in that hour, if it is a body, then he's likely to have dumped that.
29:30Hello, sir.
29:31My name's Chris Howell.
29:32I'm a police officer.
29:33I notice on the outside of the building there's some cameras.
29:44Detectives are going door to door, looking for cameras that capture Paisan's car.
29:51I've got to go from each road to road to road to road to see if I can find which direction
29:55he's turned in.
29:56If you're following the car, it might take you a day to cover a couple of minutes worth
30:02of driving.
30:07I've got him, mate.
30:08You've got him, what time?
30:09So, basically, he goes into the left.
30:12OK.
30:13Stops.
30:14OK.
30:15And reverses.
30:16And right where he reverses, there's a skip, because I just looked in it.
30:19OK.
30:21CCTV officer Chris Howell has found footage of Paisan's car on an industry
30:26real estate two miles from the container.
30:29I can't see anything happening, but I will be able to get other cameras and show it.
30:33I'm going to come down now and make an assessment with you.
30:36Right, stay in a second.
30:39This is an interesting development.
30:41We know that he's left that unit with something bulky and heavy in a bag, and whatever it
30:48is, if it's Agnes, it's possibly in this location.
30:54Hold on.
30:55You know who's?
30:56Hi.
30:57See you.
30:58OK.
30:59Three minutes, half a mile.
31:01From what I know, he was in this industrial estate for six minutes, and it would allow him
31:07an opportunity to dispose of whatever was in the back of the car.
31:12So it looks very promising.
31:15There's Dory Cop.
31:25Have you got the footage there?
31:27Yeah, I'll just show you now.
31:28Yeah.
31:29The footage shows Paisan visiting the skip yard on the day of Agnes' disappearance.
31:34Oh, that's brilliant.
31:35There is him.
31:37This is it.
31:40I'm going to look around.
31:42I'm going to look around.
31:48Sheeting.
31:49There's something in that, though.
31:50It's obviously not what I think of.
31:52Is that a jacket, though?
31:53Yes.
31:54That's a jacket.
31:55Looks like it, doesn't it?
31:56Look at that.
31:57That's a white sleeve.
32:02He's hiding it as well, isn't he?
32:05What's really weird is what we've seen before, the heavy iron.
32:09Yeah.
32:10Because it's clearly heavy.
32:11I don't know.
32:11What's this?
32:14It looks like a jacket or something.
32:15Dark coloured or something.
32:16Is it his?
32:18Yeah, but where's the body?
32:19Yeah.
32:20A bit wrapped up.
32:22Oh, hang on.
32:22Hang on.
32:23Oh, yeah.
32:24That's...
32:25That's carpet.
32:25That's...
32:26That's...
32:26That's carpet, yeah.
32:27Yeah.
32:27We can see.
32:28There's no way he's going to put a body in there.
32:34Not with all these people around.
32:36No.
32:36No, no, no.
32:37Good.
32:37I honestly thought with what everybody had done over the last 24 hours, I would have put my mortgage on it.
32:57We would have found it.
32:57It looks now as if whatever has gone in that skip is very likely to be a crucial piece of evidence.
33:05The next thing now is to find out where the yard is and it's just how quick they dispose of their contents of their skips.
33:15Inquiries reveal the skip was picked up and taken to a waste disposal site three miles away in Ladbroke Grove.
33:22It's that one there, is it?
33:26Yeah.
33:26Empty.
33:27Totally empty.
33:28100%, yeah?
33:29Yeah.
33:39I think you can see Agnes' white coat.
33:47There's also this big bit of grey car poop.
33:50To me, there's blood stones.
33:52It does smell, doesn't it?
33:55Quite bad.
33:56Yeah, it does.
34:01It is?
34:02Yep.
34:07The scientists have just tested the staining which is on the carpet.
34:12The initial sample testing of that is positive.
34:16Obviously, it will need to go away for testing, a day or two, hopefully, and we'll know then for sure if it's done.
34:22If it's her blood or not.
34:30That coat has a really strong smell of perfume on it.
34:32And it does make you think, well, she was wearing that and that's what she smelt like at the time.
34:39And it's still there now.
34:40So it does give you, like being here now with this, it gives you a bit of thought of Agnes, really.
34:47Yeah.
34:47Yeah.
34:48Yeah.
35:02As the search continues, detectives Mike Davidson and Sarah Stancom interview Paisan for a third time.
35:09There's now just 10 hours left on his custody clock.
35:15Okay, I want you to look at something.
35:22Do you accept that's you?
35:29Yeah.
35:30Yes.
35:32What are you doing there?
35:34I don't know.
35:35I presume I was throwing rubbish out.
35:47Okay.
35:48What rubbish?
35:49Whatever was in the car.
35:54Wherever I go, I throw some more stuff out of my car.
36:00Okay.
36:02We followed that skip.
36:07We found it.
36:08And we found it.
36:10What do you think we found in there?
36:12What do you think we found in there?
36:15I don't know.
36:16I don't know.
36:16Okay.
36:20Do you recognize that?
36:30I don't know, I don't know, I don't know about it.
36:32I can't see it.
36:34It's, I say, it looks extremely similar to the coat that Agnes is wearing.
36:43What do you have to say about that?
36:46I don't know.
36:46If you haven't seen anything about it, you don't know how to look at it.
36:48I don't know.
36:48I just went through with that.
36:51I don't know.
36:52I don't know.
36:52I don't know how to look at it.
36:52I don't know.
36:53I don't remember.
36:55I don't know.
36:58I don't remember.
37:00Hello, Devon speaking.
37:08While Paisan is being interviewed, the search team makes further discoveries at the skip yard.
37:19I've just got off the phone from the guys down at the Waste and Recycle Centre in Ladbroke Grove.
37:24Having gone through it, they found a saw, a jigsaw, and it appears to be coated in what looks like blood.
37:30I don't know.
37:39Neil.
37:40Sorry?
37:41Blonde hair is on the jigsaw as well.
37:43Oh, no.
37:44I surrender.
37:46Wow.
37:47Cheers.
37:48All right.
37:48Bye.
37:49looks like all these items are in the same bag jigsaw it's covered in blood all over it
37:57blonde hairs in it yeah a white t-shirt covered in blood shit no body parts Jesus
38:07they're continuing with the search there I think there's about 20% more to do but where's the body
38:19the indications are unfortunately that Agnes may well have been cut up I don't know yet I don't
38:29want to get too carried away with that hello Wembley it's Devon say I'm a DS from the murder
38:34team at Hendon hi there I've got two of my colleagues currently doing an interview can
38:39you go into that interview and interrupt it to do the honourable thing
38:49it was the interview hi Mike um so you know the skip where her jackets been found yeah we found a
38:58jigsaw and it is saturated in blood what else did you dump in the skip
39:06we found a jigsaw in there like a mini saw
39:17the jigsaw has what looks like blood and blonde hair on it
39:25look at
39:36Without knowing, maybe we need it.
39:44Was it used?
39:47You know it's been used. You used it. It's got her hair.
39:50Clearly, it's going to be her hair, isn't it?
39:53That's her jacket you're dumping in the skip.
39:56I don't know what's most of the investigation.
39:59You need to do more investigating.
40:02She must appear from somewhere.
40:06Nicolai.
40:10We're going to find out.
40:14Yeah.
40:15I also want to find out.
40:19I'll tell you what you can say. You can tell us.
40:21You can tell us where her body is.
40:24Her justice, Nicolai.
40:27I'll tell you what you can say. You can tell us.
40:30You can tell us where her body is.
40:33Her justice, Nicolai.
40:35And tell us where that poor girl's body is.
40:38I'll be honest with you. I feel a little bit emotional.
40:39Because I kind of wanted to... I wanted him to tell us where she was, obviously. We didn't manage to get that.
40:45Yeah, I kind of feel a bit disappointed in myself. I don't know. But I feel we tried as much as we could.
40:51I think we're used to people lying to us in our job. But to sit there when we just wanted him to tell us where she was so we could find a body just for...
40:57We know, I think we know, I think we know now we've sort of got to the point we've got to the point where we've decided she's dead.
41:04For him to...
41:05For him to...
41:06For him to...
41:07For him to...
41:08For him to...
41:09For him to...
41:10For him to...
41:11Sure.
41:12And for him to...
41:13For him to...
41:14For him to say no, no, and not tell us where she is. I think that's the... That was quite grueling, actually, wasn't it?
41:17Yeah.
41:18Yeah.
41:19to the point where you've decided she's dead.
41:22Um, for him to, all that evidence put to him
41:25and him saying, no, no, and not tell us where she is,
41:28I think that's the, that was quite grueling actually,
41:31wasn't it?
41:32Yeah, yeah.
41:33The biggest insult, after the interview was over,
41:36he apologised to me on behalf of Agnes.
41:41I'm sorry she's wasting so much of your time
41:44and money doing this.
41:47Yeah.
41:49And if you can explain to Mr. Paisan
41:55that the CPS have authorised a single charge
41:59against him today, that is for a charge of murder.
42:03Being on the 9th of May, 2021,
42:07you've murdered Agnes Acom, contrary to common law.
42:10Have you anything to say to that charge?
42:17No reply.
42:18Yes, it's good that we got the suspect charged,
42:23but as regards how I feel, there's a mix of emotions there.
42:27She's clearly lost her life in a tragic manner.
42:32I feel contempt for him.
42:35He hasn't done the decent thing and tell us where she is.
42:41You know, the pressure for the family to have your daughter missing
42:46and never to be found is just unthinkable.
42:49And if we cannot find Agnes, then evidentially there is a potential weakness in the case because
42:59at trial, Nikolai could say it was an accident
43:03and without the body we can't conclusively prove the cause of death.
43:07The defence will exploit that to the best of their ability.
43:12That's why we need to do everything we possibly can to locate the body.
43:17Right, morning all, you don't need me to remind you that, yes, it's good that we got the suspect charge,
43:36but we're only at the start of a very steep hill.
43:38So, we managed to track that skip back to a yard in West London, I believe, Mark.
43:44The skip gets tipped out and the first thing that came out was the coat
43:49and then this was the main bag.
43:51So in that bag is the saw, covered in blood,
43:56and also there's obvious hairs there because it's long and blonde.
43:59It's probably from her neck, unfortunately, is what they're suggesting.
44:04However, there was no body parts recovered yesterday.
44:08So in that bag, her shoes as well, definitely her shoes from the CCTV, blood inside and out.
44:14Brian mentioned a white T-shirt or something that he said was absolutely saturated in blood.
44:21There it is, heavily bloodstained on the front and the back.
44:24So a hugely significant find and really brings it to the forefront now.
44:31It may well be, as sad as it is to say, that we're no longer looking for a whole body,
44:35but we're looking for possibly parts of a body.
44:41You know, all of this stuff was on the 9th, but we didn't get there until the 18th.
44:45So he's had a good nine days to dispose of different things.
44:52Personally, I've never come across anything like this.
44:53And if a jigsaw has been used to mutilate Agnes or dismember her,
45:01yeah, it doesn't bear thinking about it.
45:05What we've seen is him coming and going repeatedly, but with smaller bags.
45:09You know, now the fact that he's been distributing stuff in quite a wide range of places
45:13means there is every chance that he has, at other times, gone to various other locations
45:18to put things in. It makes it very, very difficult.
45:23Over the next two weeks, the detectives uncover footage of Paisan leaving small items in bins
45:29and skips around north-west London.
45:33Every day, detectives search industrial sites and rubbish dumps across the city.
45:38It's fair to say opportunities around rubbish recovery are probably at the end.
45:46We're still no nearer to finding Agnes and it may be the case that we don't recover her body,
45:51which is going to be really tough at the end of the day. That's the sad reality.
46:05Two weeks of searching waste sites has come to nothing.
46:09Detectives look further into Paisan's past in the hope of generating new leads.
46:19Inquiries have pointed CCTV officer Chris to a new location of interest.
46:25We've got links seven years ago through intel that he's got a unit just the other side of the North
46:33circular, which is where we're off to now, just on the off chance that he may have gone there,
46:38that if he's had links there in the past, he'll know the area.
46:41So we're just giving it a go and we're going to just have a look at CCTV around there.
46:46It's a punk.
46:55There's a camera on a post just there.
46:56We've got a high risk missing person. So on the 9th, let's go to that number six, if that's all right.
47:07So you can see a car just here. It's obviously gone from quite a distance away,
47:17but it's not a bad look-alike really for the for the car. That is not a bad shout.
47:34There he is, look. There he is. There you go. So that's, there is him. That's the way he walks. That is him.
47:56Why don't we ring Dev? He turns in. Yeah. He walks away. He has got an item under his left arm.
48:14He walks onto the North circular, turning right. There's a little pathway where you can walk into woodland area.
48:21Okay. So this is him going back in.
48:30Analyzing the CCTV further, Detective C. Paisan returning to the area more than once.
48:38So we're now in the morning of the 10th and this is Paisan here. Whoa. There he is. With a weed in.
48:51So you look at this bit, when he goes up the curb, he seems to not be able to lift it up. Sort of stumbles on the curb.
49:00Yeah. Yeah, it's something heavy isn't it? Yeah.
49:02So that's him with whatever that is. Into Neasden wreck.
49:16And then this is him coming out 33 minutes later with the bin.
49:21I think his hands look dirty.
49:40Seeing that footage today would suggest that the day after she was murdered,
49:45it's likely that her or part of her has gone into that park.
49:56Behind here, there's a big reservoir. Like a really big reservoir.
49:59A team of over 30 specialist officers are brought in to search 23 acres of park and woodland.
50:17I want the Pulsar team to be able to say to me that they've searched every square inch of that park.
50:27But there's a fair lot of ground to cover. I would say it's in excess of 10 football pitches.
50:33And then we may need to go into the water as well. And that's sizeable.
50:39He's leading us a merry dance, isn't he?
50:41Wow. It's very difficult to get through in there. It is really difficult.
50:52Police search the area for five days.
50:55The dog's indicated towards a pile of logs.
51:13Yeah. Still need to move a few small ones to get a proper look.
51:21It looks like a piece of flesh.
51:40You see anything?
51:41Yeah. Down there.
51:43Oh, yeah. Yeah. That was an arm.
51:53Yeah. Gosh.
52:04It looks like she's bent over, so like a...
52:06Oh, in a fetal.
52:07Yeah, so I think that's her wrist, you can see.
52:13Certainly a human torso and it looks pretty much intact.
52:22It kind of looks like a tree has fallen over.
52:28And in the base of the tree, the sort of hole that the tree's left,
52:32he's used that as a half-dug grave already for him.
52:35And then he's covered it over with mud and other bits of wood.
52:43I think that's someone's daughter, sister.
52:45Do you ever get used to this part of your job?
52:48Never get used to it, no.
52:50No.
52:52I think that's someone's daughter, sister.
52:55It's very sad.
53:04A complete waste of life.
53:08He has gone to some effort to conceal Agnes's body and covering his tracks or attempting to.
53:16I often deal with death, unfortunately, and we do become hardened to it in many respects.
53:27But seeing Agnes, if it is Agnes in this position, does bring it home again.
53:33And it is very upsetting, very sad.
53:36The CSM confirmed the identification that it is Agnes.
53:53So provisional cause of death is unascertained.
53:57There are multiple impacts to the head, so we had three impacts to the right side of the head
54:02and 14 plus impacts to the left side of the head.
54:05The impacts to the head are clustered, possibly suggesting the disease quickly lost consciousness.
54:10Bear in mind the earlier theories, there's no evidence of any dismemberment.
54:16No, nothing like that at all.
54:17So it looks as if Agnes was bludgeoned to death with an implement that we don't really know yet,
54:22although there is a thought process that it may well be the jigsaw.
54:26I spoke to Mum this morning just to confirm the dental records.
54:33I did explain to them the thoughts of the pathologist as well,
54:36saying that unconsciousness and death may have followed quite quickly so that
54:41she wouldn't have felt any pain or suffered, which I think they appreciated.
54:45Yeah.
54:45And yeah, I think yesterday was her birthday, so Mum said it's not really something
54:52that she thinks she'd be doing on her daughter's 21st birthday.
54:55I've also told them that we'll go today to blow the flowers,
54:59to take a photo and I'll send it off to the family.
55:10It's fairly evident that she was murdered shortly after entering that container.
55:14I think his first interview with the police is more or less truthful.
55:20So why did you go in?
55:21I think he's been insulted by his advances towards her and for whatever reason there's then been an act of violence which has caused her death.
55:48And then within a few short hours of that time, he is then going on his travels disposing of evidence.
55:56And as we know, he's had nine days to conceal his tracks.
55:59I don't think it would have sounded easy with anybody if we had not placated Agnes.
56:05The fact that we have found her and we now know and understand the manner in which she died
56:10will hopefully give some comfort and closure to the family
56:14and try and allow them to get their head around this horrible ordeal.
56:19We know.
57:03We are from the Homicide Command and we're investigating the murder of a chap called Maurizio.
57:08A senseless killing, described by the pathologist as one of the most vicious attacks he's ever seen.
57:14If he goes to rescue, he's still a fun back and tore everyone.
57:18These patterns we can see on shoes. Shoes are our murder weapon.
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