USA wycofują się z roli globalnej a przewodniczący EPL Manfred Weber wzywa Europę do przywództwa
Przewodniczący centroprawicowej partii UE powiedział w rozmowie z Euronews, że nadszedł czas, aby Europa stanęła na wysokości zadania.
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Przewodniczący centroprawicowej partii UE powiedział w rozmowie z Euronews, że nadszedł czas, aby Europa stanęła na wysokości zadania.
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00:00Muzyka
00:08Avrupa największe polityki fajna,
00:10Radna Europia Majd.
00:13Kastroաńczy z Europy Zjednoczonych Pod��je,
00:15i wyes coś w Europie.
00:18Przez Państwa u niebawsku,
00:20który uchyszy się w tej ułkiwym reju,
00:23w Valencia, Spanę.
00:27Mr. Weber, dziękuję bardzo za rozmowę na tym kongresie w Valencia.
00:33Co jest nowe message dla głosów?
00:36Wszystko zmienia się w dzisiejszym świecie.
00:38W życiu w świecie Trumpów i Orbánów.
00:41Czy macie nowe narratywne, nowe message?
00:45Nasze message jest słyszeć ludzi, prowadzić,
00:49a także udowodnić.
00:51Zostawiamy problemów.
00:53Ludzie wczyniți się rozgradać.
00:58Ludzie ж są nuekowe.
00:59Ludzie, jakby w takim razie dotarli,
01:01i w tym momencie,
01:04w tym czasie,
01:15o tym, o tym, o tym pomysach.
01:18So, especially with defence, with the question of protecting ourselves against the brutal
01:23dictatorship of Putin, and democracy.
01:27So about rule of law, about the inner structure of the European Union, where I'm very proud
01:31that parties like the TISA party, the main opposition party, the Viktor Orbán, joined
01:35the EPP group, is part of our family, and also Donald Tusk showed in Poland that we
01:40are the party of rule of law, of democracy in Europe.
01:43These are the three pillars for our mandate, and the European People's Party is now working
01:48hard to deliver on these issues.
01:49So you mentioned rule of law and pro-European-ness, but do you think this message will resonate
01:55today with the voters?
01:58The precondition for everything is delivering on content, living conditions for our people,
02:03have economic growth, jobs for especially the young generation, not accepting first and
02:08second class Europeans in Europe.
02:11Some parts of Europe don't feel equally treated than other parts of Europe, and that has
02:16to stop.
02:17So these kind of things, there we have to deliver finally.
02:20Also now the main challenge of building up a European pillar of defence, there we have
02:24to deliver now and work on this.
02:26But probably you're right, because the main competitor for me for the next upcoming years
02:33is not anymore the centre-left, where I would hope that socialists are becoming again the
02:40workers' party of Europe, you know, close to the car manufacturers and so on, which are
02:45not yet the case in this moment of time.
02:47So the main competitor for us for the next years are the populists and the extremists.
02:52We are facing an authoritarian wave all over the world and it is also coming and arriving
02:58in Europe.
02:59And that's why the biggest job for us as the biggest party of Europe, as the centre-right
03:03party, as EPP, is to protect our way of life, to protect our democracy in the European Union.
03:10And there Valencia is a starting point for creating such a vision on the long run.
03:14That's very interesting that you say that you have to fight populist instead of let's
03:18say the middle ground of the politics, but how you will get out the message?
03:24Because people consider EPP people like bureaucrats in Brussels, isn't it?
03:30So you have to be more loud maybe.
03:32What we have to do is to have again a convincing narrative, a convincing story, a convincing understanding
03:40about where is the future of our society.
03:42For example, on the question of the defence union, we speak currently about common procurement.
03:48But Adenauer de Gasperi and Schumann, they spoke about lasting peace in Europe, forgiveness
03:54after the Second World War.
03:55So that was the level of political discussions.
03:57Or when we speak about economy, it's not so much only about start-ups and about the number
04:01of jobs we create.
04:03That's important.
04:04But, you know, social market economy was the answer towards communism, and social market
04:09won against communism.
04:12And today, our market must win against the authoritarian concept of China.
04:18Is China providing more economic growth, or is our European model providing more social
04:23justice and economic growth?
04:25So this is the level of discussion we have in front of us.
04:28And I want to see EPP discussing this with a perspective, with a future orientation.
04:33And in a world where America is not anymore the stable anchor and gives not this kind of
04:39orientation, Europe is even more asked to do so.
04:42And again, the biggest party of Europe must provide Europe exactly with this thinking and
04:46this content.
04:47Let me come back for one question on the issue with the populists and, as you said, autocrats.
04:53How you want to fight them when the EPP is voting with them together many times in the European
04:59Parliament when it comes to Green Deal or other issues?
05:03Well, I, as party leader, defined a clear red line to the extremists.
05:07We will never work together with those who are not respecting my three pros, so pro-Ukraine,
05:12pro-rule of law, and pro-Europe, and that are fundamental things for us.
05:17So you can name them, it's Le Pen in France, it's AFD in Germany.
05:22There will never be a structured cooperation with them for us as EPP.
05:26So we are ready to include the serious conservative parties in Europe.
05:30For example, Giorgio Meloni showed in Italy, together with Antone Tajani, that they are credible,
05:35that they are center-based.
05:36Petr Fiala in the Czech Republic is fighting against Babiš and is a conservative politician.
05:41He should be part of a team, of a broader team on European level.
05:43That's why I work together with the serious ones, but with those who are really taking
05:48Europe into question, like Beidl and AFD or Le Pen, is no cooperation possible at all.
05:53But do you think that the EPP right now is more right-wing than it was, let's say, three
05:59years ago, when it comes to migration, when it comes to the green policies?
06:04I wouldn't say so, because, you know, we had already, three years ago, tough discussions
06:08about legislation like nature restoration law was one of the symbolic debates we had
06:13in the last mandate, where the left-leaning Franz Timmermans thinking was not anymore reflecting
06:19what the people asked us to do.
06:22And also on, for example, building up fences, if needed, to stop instrumentalization of migration.
06:28We did it in Finland, we did it in Poland, we did it in Greece.
06:31So EPP was always coherent and consistent on this.
06:34I would say today more and more voters follow our approach, and that's why EPP won elections
06:39in the last years.
06:41And we do this serious, we do this European way, we do it also based on rule of law, like
06:46the Geneva Convention, like respecting the asylum right in Europe.
06:49We are doing it not like the populist and extremist way.
06:53So that's our middle ground, in a way, the serious center-right party who is providing
06:57answers in today's world.
06:59Isn't the EPP too powerful right now, with 12 heads of state at the European Council and
07:05leadership of the European Commission, and you in one person being the leader of the big
07:11EPP family and also of the EPP group?
07:15I mean, isn't it too much of responsibility, of power in the European Union?
07:20The mandate you described and the outcome you described is based on elections.
07:26180 million people participated in the last European elections, and they gave us a mandate,
07:31they voted.
07:32Here in Spain, in Hungary, in Germany, in Finland, they voted.
07:36And they decided to stop the period of a left-liberal-driven agenda, and now coming back to
07:43a center-right-driven agenda.
07:45That's normal in democracy.
07:47What is a bigger problem is that when people vote for another European Parliament, for a
07:51center-right European Parliament, things must change.
07:55We cannot continue, as the left wishes to see, that then we continue and nothing happens.
08:00My spirit is, I'm a Democrat, we won elections, we have a mandate to leave, but we do this
08:06together with the others, with the liberals, with the socialists, and also with the conservative
08:10voters who are committed to be part of a European process.
08:15Let's talk a little bit about geopolitics, because everything is changing under the
08:20presidency of Donald Trump.
08:23Does Europe have enough self-confidence as one of the biggest markets and one of the richest
08:28regions of the world to, you know, stand up and stand its ground?
08:33Yes.
08:34I would say yes.
08:35In this moment of time, I'm quite positive.
08:38When it is about the answer on tariffs, for example, our answer was a strong one, but also
08:44not trying to escalate, so it was a balanced approach.
08:48Look to what are we doing with the digital world, so that we are implementing the Digital
08:53Market Act, Digital Service Act into today's communication forms.
08:57There we don't follow the Vance or Vice President Vance's concentration that everything is allowed.
09:03No, in Europe not everything is allowed.
09:05You cannot lie, you cannot do hate speeches there, you cannot be anti-Semitic in today's
09:08world in Europe.
09:10Not everything is allowed.
09:11And this implementation of our rules is making us self-confident that we believe in the European
09:17way of life, not following the American, the Chinese or the Russian approach.
09:21I don't want to compare them, don't get me wrong, but where we still need more engagement
09:26is the defence side and the common external affairs policies, and that's the task ahead
09:31of us.
09:32When will Europe be able to defend itself alone?
09:36Will there be ever a time when, you know, we can do it without our American friends?
09:42I think that must be the aim, the idea, that in 2030, at the latest, we must be capable
09:48to defend ourselves, and Europe has all resources, all capabilities, and has also the political
09:54will to do it.
09:55So, let's do it, and for us as EPP it's always important to do this together with the American
10:01friends.
10:02We have some uncertainty with Washington in their communication, but in principle we define,
10:06we have the same thinking about democracy, about values, about freedom, and that's why
10:12we stick with our European pillar of defence to NATO and to the common engagement on the
10:16transatlantic side.
10:17And right now the European Union is willing to spend 800 billion euros on defence, rearmament,
10:24Europe.
10:25This means also less money for hospitals, for housing, less money for schools.
10:31How do you want to explain this to your voters?
10:33Well, in this moment of time we also allow member states to borrow more money, so we pay this
10:39more on future perspective, not so much on the current investments, so people should not
10:43be so much worried about this.
10:45But on the other hand, without peace, without stability, the rest is not important anymore.
10:51So, what we have to do is to protect stability, peace inside of Europe, and the precondition
10:56is that we can defend ourselves.
10:58I think people understand the logic behind, and we do this in a way that we can secure
11:04our social welfare system, that we can secure the investments in a climate-friendly, in a
11:10digital world of tomorrow.
11:12So there are a lot of issues on the table, and we only can manage this if things are balanced
11:16finally.
11:17Let me ask you one last question.
11:19It's about the heritage of Pope Francis.
11:22He was considered as a very progressive head of the Catholic Church.
11:27You as a faithful Catholic, how will you preserve his heritage in your political life?
11:32I would hope that we keep our societies and also the Catholic world together, because the
11:39different parts, the different sections, the different bubbles inside of our societies
11:43are getting bigger and bigger, and we have to unify again.
11:47That's also in the tradition of the Catholic Church, and also in the tradition of the European
11:51People's Party.
11:52Manfred Weber, thanks very much for this interview.
11:54I thank you so much.