NYPD Blue Season 3 Episode 8 Cold Heaters
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00:00Open it.
00:19Thanks. Bobby Samoa.
00:21How's it going, Ray?
00:25How do you think?
00:27I'm in the system here, Bobby.
00:29Yeah, they brought you down for your appeal hearing, huh?
00:32My appeal.
00:35Hey, you never know, Ray.
00:37That's right.
00:38Because you heard about the trial, right?
00:41That little genius from legal aid gets me three to five.
00:44I'm just a lookout.
00:46Meanwhile, the principals, they mention a few names.
00:48They're on the street already.
00:50I'm just talking about justice here, Bobby.
00:53And I asked you to help me out at the time.
00:55You turn your back.
00:57Is this why you asked me to come down here so that we can go over all of this again?
01:01I'm sorry. I...
01:07I just...
01:09I don't think so good, you know?
01:13I'm upset all the time, Bobby.
01:17I need your help, Bobby.
01:23There's no way I can help you, Ray.
01:25Don't worry.
01:28I'm bringing something to the table.
01:30Information.
01:31This guy I've been hanging with in the yard.
01:36He worked this job some three years ago.
01:38An armored car heist.
01:40A couple of ex-cops were driving.
01:42They both got killed.
01:44You talking about the grandpa car?
01:46I heard him mention that.
01:48That's what they called it.
01:49Now, according to him, they got away clean.
01:52Him and three other guys.
01:54Is this ringing any bells?
01:56Grandpa car's a real case, Ray.
01:58You got any names?
02:00I get a first and last on one of the guys.
02:03And a street name on one of the others.
02:05You think that's worth something to the DA?
02:08Let's see what I can find out.
02:12You know, I don't blame you for what's happened to me, Bobby.
02:15But I got to get out of here.
02:23I got to go, Ray.
02:24It's for my job.
02:26You tell the DA I got those names.
02:30I will.
02:31On the gate.
02:32Open it.
02:34I'll let you know.
02:35Yeah, sure.
02:37Go ahead and walk out of here.
02:45I'm waiting, threw the нашils away.
02:46I'll maybe...
02:48Come.
02:49You're going to see us now.
02:50We've showed them all there.
02:51Today, even before, you had heard on people.
02:52Before we Society, we've got 30 1984.
02:54For more information, you can check out.
02:55May 1 vaccination damage.
02:56Within 10 we'll get ready.
02:57And yep, I was going to see you.
02:58Onezewrin, hopefully.
02:59Looking back on my parte, we'll get back.
03:01All right, guys.
03:02Wow, you've been watching this.
03:03Good one.
03:05Bees 88ました.
03:06Well, go ahead.
03:07I love him.
03:08I'm watching thisと思fight.
03:09A contact with me, I'm going to see you.
04:42This guy shot in his shoulder is just a flesh wound.
04:44You want to talk to him before they take him to the hospital?
04:46Yeah, what's his name?
04:47Samuel Velasquez.
04:49Samuel?
04:49Yeah.
04:52Samuel, I'm Detective Sipwis.
04:55It's Detective Simone.
04:56What can you tell us about the guy that shot you?
04:59Oh, man.
05:00It was crazy, man.
05:01This black dude, he comes into the store, right?
05:05And he starts screaming all this racial trash.
05:07And then all of a sudden, I'm shot.
05:09You were the first one shot?
05:10No.
05:11He shot Louis first.
05:12And then he started, like, waving the gun around, shooting everybody.
05:15He shot you first, man.
05:16It was crazy.
05:17It was like all happened at the same time.
05:19All you guys were in there?
05:20Yeah, man.
05:21He was drunk.
05:21It's like Hamirin just killed everybody.
05:23He was a big guy.
05:25No, he wasn't that big, man.
05:26He was medium.
05:27He was black.
05:28Real, real, real black.
05:29He was about 50.
05:30You never seen this guy before?
05:32Yeah, I seen him, like, maybe coming out of the subway or something.
05:35So maybe he lives around here?
05:37Yeah, maybe.
05:38Well, I gotta find out this is about dope, right?
05:41You think Cosme Boricua that means we deal dope?
05:44What's wrong with you, man?
05:45Yeah, I know.
05:45What's wrong with you?
05:46I got shot over here.
05:47All right, all right, all right.
05:47Take it easy.
05:49James.
05:51What do you got?
05:52We gave the place a quick toss.
05:54We didn't come up with anything.
05:56These guys are half-loaded.
05:57Yeah.
05:58He wants to start the canvas?
05:59Yeah, keep your eyes open.
06:01When it happens that the Mariachi troop over here is telling the truth, we got a nut out
06:05there with a gun.
06:07All right, you guys, we're gonna have to go over to the station now.
06:10James, take my car?
06:11All right, all right, all right.
06:12Yo, but this better not take all day, you know what I'm saying?
06:14Hey, your friend Luis here just got shot.
06:17Yo, you're gonna tell me about Luis?
06:18Man, I know the guy, man.
06:19Yo, yo, yo, we don't, we don't feel up to this one.
06:21Yeah, yeah, you're in mourning, all right?
06:23I understand.
06:24Get in here.
06:29Ay, ay, ay.
06:31Excuse me, I was told downstairs this is where to make my complaint.
06:53Uh, um, uh, Detective Medavoy can see you.
06:57Detective, uh, you're up.
06:59Oh, can I help you?
07:01Yes, I'm the victim of an assault.
07:03All right, uh, well, right this way, uh, let's get some information about what happened.
07:08My name's, uh, my name's Peter Cahill.
07:11Have a seat, Mr. Cahill.
07:15Uh, how badly were you hurt in this incident?
07:19Uh, bruises up and down my arms, and, uh...
07:23Feel this bump.
07:25Nothing wrong?
07:26It's quite large.
07:28Just keep looking.
07:29Well, it looks painful.
07:30Uh, were you struck with a foreign object?
07:34With a blunt-edged sword.
07:36Uh, do you know the person who hit you?
07:40The stage actor, Raleigh Gibson.
07:42You probably know him.
07:43Uh, no, I, I don't get to the theater too much.
07:46Well, in the middle of the sword fight last night, he completely abandoned the choreography and attacked me.
07:54I take it you're an actor as well.
07:57Yeah.
07:58Well, last week he nearly put my eye out.
08:01Did you speak to anyone at the theater about this?
08:03They don't want to deal with it.
08:05They tell themselves he's box office, that they should tell the empty seats.
08:09Meanwhile, I take a nightly beating.
08:14Procedure, Mr. Cahill.
08:15Uh, I look into your complaint, talk to the relevant parties, and then there'll be a decision on charges.
08:21I work at the Ludlow Theater.
08:24Ask Roland Edmonds about him.
08:26Ask Donna Stein.
08:28Right.
08:29Uh, definitely, uh, I'll check the matter out.
08:33Well, uh, thank you for coming in.
08:37Well, it's, it's on my way to the doctor.
08:43Fifteenth spot.
08:45I'm sorry.
08:50May I help you?
08:52Yes, I'd like to speak to the detective in charge.
08:55Arthur Fancy.
08:56I'm lieutenant in charge of the squad.
08:58Louis Folsom.
08:59I'm pastor at Bethel AME.
09:01How do you do?
09:01Why don't you come in and have a seat?
09:04Lieutenant, one of my parishioners was involved in a shooting this morning.
09:18He says he shot two men.
09:20Well, there was a multiple shooting at a bodega on Third Street.
09:24Sounds like the incident.
09:25So, what's the man's name?
09:29He says when he fired the gun, he was in fear for his life.
09:33Well, if he was in danger, that's a very important factor.
09:37So, where can we find him?
09:39I'd like to be able to tell him I spoke to the man that he would be talking to.
09:49You can tell him that.
09:51So, how can we find him, pastor?
09:55His name is Gregory Light.
09:57He's not far from here.
09:59I'll go get him.
10:01Okay.
10:19Your bodega witness is set up.
10:22They want to know, do they get paid if they pick out the shooter?
10:26Part of dealing with their grief.
10:27Okay, a suspect's coming in with this minister.
10:31We'll get his statement, have the witnesses take a look.
10:34Hey, Lou.
10:35Yeah.
10:35He turned up a neighbor on the canvas.
10:37He saw a kid running down the street screaming just before the shots were fired.
10:41She didn't know who the kid was, but she saw him come out of the bodega.
10:44Somebody's going to have to keep these guys in the mug books.
10:46Lou says the shooter's coming in.
10:48Is that right?
10:49Yeah.
10:49As soon as you get a look at the guy, James,
10:52get some fillers from the shelters for a lineup.
10:54And Adrian, runner, uh, Gregory Light through BCI.
10:58I'm not sure of the spelling.
11:00Okay.
11:00Did the minister say how it happened?
11:02No, but he said the guy give a full statement.
11:04Can't hate a ground ball.
11:07Okay.
11:07I'll be there in the interview.
11:08He asked for that.
11:09Yeah.
11:10All right.
11:10Lou, uh, that guy Ray DeSalvo, guy I grew up with, took a collar last year for moving some coke.
11:18Yeah, whipped to that rumble joint?
11:20Yeah, he's on the inside now.
11:21Claims a guy in this tier cop to sticking up the grandpa car with three other skills.
11:26Did he give any names?
11:27He says he's got a full name on one of the guys and another guy's nickname.
11:32That was Robert's case.
11:33The grandpa car?
11:35Yeah.
11:35Yeah.
11:36Well, see if the DA wants a deal.
11:38I'll call Sylvia.
11:39Go.
11:48This is Gregory Light.
11:53Um, uh, he's got the gun.
11:58I'm other fancy.
12:00I'll take your statement with Detective Stiff Woods.
12:02Yeah, I'm trying to reach ADA costs.
12:05Okay.
12:06I'll tell your wife that I saw you go in with the lieutenant.
12:12This way.
12:22Have a seat, Mr. Light.
12:25Um, put this in evidence, Larko.
12:27Hey, look.
12:28So, um, your pastor said you wanted to talk to us without a shooting.
12:44Those drunks down at the bodega went after my son.
12:47Tell us what happened.
12:50Well, I sent him out for bread.
12:52And after about ten minutes, I hear all this yelling.
12:56His friend comes to my door crying and carrying on, saying that Junior's in trouble.
13:03So what was his friend's name?
13:05Delroy.
13:06My wife would know his last name.
13:08But he was yelling that they were beating Gregory down at the bodega.
13:12And he said, Mr. Light, they're beating Junior.
13:15So I grabbed an old gun I keep in the house.
13:19And I went out in the street, and here comes my son running.
13:23His face all covered with blood.
13:25So how old is your son?
13:28Ten.
13:30Ten years old.
13:32There's drunks in that place.
13:35I told him he's never supposed to go near that filthy place.
13:40Just to save a half a block to the grocery.
13:43Now look at all this trouble.
13:45So when you saw your son, was he alone in the street?
13:49Was anyone chasing him?
13:51No, just somebody looking out from the bodega.
13:54But nobody was chasing him.
13:57And you went on to the bodega?
13:58I sent him home.
14:01Then I went in.
14:03Did you have your gun out?
14:05Not then.
14:08I said, hey, who beat my boy?
14:13And there was a lot of yelling and screaming back and forth and some racial stuff.
14:19And one of them said to the other, some Spanish.
14:23And the guy behind the counter grabbed beneath.
14:27And then the guy in the aisle started coming at me.
14:31And that's when I pulled up my gun.
14:35Because the guy behind the counter was going for a gun.
14:39And the guy in the aisle was coming at me.
14:41I was so upset about my boy.
14:46And you shot him both.
14:50I have been a long showman for 25 years.
15:04I have never even had a parking ticket.
15:13What do you want to do?
15:15Talk to the son and the friend who came and got him.
15:19Even if they back your father's story, he's looking at manslaughter.
15:23That's where I want you to start, Andy.
15:26No problem.
15:27Want me to run the witnesses through BCI?
15:29They don't look like no choir boys.
15:32Yeah.
15:34Whoever's in there with them, I'll make sure they don't let them ride nothing.
15:39Yeah.
15:40Okay.
15:40Thanks.
15:43Yeah, no problem.
15:43No problem.
16:01Out of here we go.
16:14It was a joke, Bobby.
16:16The judge didn't give us five minutes.
16:18Ray, this is assistant DA Sylvia Costas.
16:22Ray DeSauvo.
16:23How do you do?
16:23Miss Costas wants to talk to you about this armored car job.
16:28No problem.
16:29I'm all for women's living.
16:32You got the DA sent me away, beat it.
16:34Wow.
16:35Jewish guy, big pot belly.
16:38Maury Abrams.
16:40I've been looking over your file.
16:42I meant no disrespect.
16:44He was doing his job.
16:45Mr. DeSauvo, if the information that you've offered on the grandpa car produced arrests,
16:53we'd support reducing your sentence by half.
16:57Support?
16:58Uh-uh.
17:00I'm not giving up names on support.
17:02He's got to put it that way, Ray.
17:03What happens if you guys blow the arrest?
17:05I mean, that's not my fault if you guys screw this up.
17:08We won't screw it up.
17:09How do I know that, Bobby?
17:10Bobby?
17:10Reduced by half?
17:20With the time served, that's only four more months.
17:23Yeah, but I didn't do nothing.
17:24I was just a lookout.
17:28You want to go through with this?
17:32Do I have a choice?
17:34Well, come on.
17:39Sorry.
17:40The guy I'm in with, his name is Jimmy Fredo.
17:53The guys he said he did the job with, one is Tommy Rotella, is the full name I got.
17:59And the second guy's nickname is called Bic.
18:03First to last name on the nickname.
18:05I don't know.
18:05All right.
18:09This Jimmy Fredo's the guy that you're in jail with right now.
18:11He gave you Tom Rotella and another guy whose nickname is Bic.
18:15Right.
18:16You said there were three guys on the outside.
18:20That's all I got.
18:21They got away clean.
18:23They're living good.
18:23Jimmy's doing time on another score.
18:25All right, Mr. DiSalvo.
18:35All right, we're going to look into this.
18:38What, you're going to send me back upstate now?
18:40I mean, I got to go back there?
18:41They'll keep you down here until we see if this all works out.
18:45You'll be in administrative segregation.
18:47But it's still jail, right?
19:07Gregory?
19:11Gregory.
19:13Police are here.
19:14They have to ask you some questions.
19:16I'm Detective Simple Woods, Gregory.
19:21How'd you get those bruises?
19:24Those guys hit me.
19:26Tell me the guys you mean.
19:28In the bodega.
19:29How come they did that?
19:32I don't know.
19:33Well, he knows he wasn't supposed to be down there.
19:36Supposed to go to the Korean place.
19:38Him and his friend didn't want to walk the extra block.
19:41You need to let us ask the questions, Mrs. Light.
19:46We're trying to find out what happened with your dad.
19:50So we really need you to think about this.
19:53I don't know.
19:55I said it was a change.
19:57The change?
19:58It was for a love for Brad.
20:01I had to take change, so I put it on the counter.
20:04He didn't like it there.
20:05Who didn't?
20:07The guy behind the counter pushed it back at me and said, put it in his hand.
20:13Then 20 of the sons went on the floor.
20:16Then the other guy came up behind me and told me to pick it up.
20:19And I said, the counter guy pushed it on the floor and he should pick it up.
20:23And they start beating on me.
20:27Him and a couple other guys.
20:30Delroy was looking in.
20:31Then he ran.
20:34After a couple of minutes, I finally got out.
20:38And then when did you see your dad?
20:41Delroy had run and got him.
20:43He was coming down the street.
20:45When he saw me, he started crying.
20:49Said, get home.
20:53Then I guess he went in the bodega.
20:58Do you need anything else?
21:02Where can we find Delroy Freeman?
21:04I can get you his mother's number.
21:06Delroy in trouble, too?
21:09You're not in trouble, Gregory.
21:11Your daddy's in trouble.
21:15Yo, did Rico pick up the right guy?
21:31Don't worry about what Rico did, Tonyo.
21:33Shea's gonna be lifted now and you're gonna see six people.
21:36You can see in, but they can't see out.
21:38If you recognize any one person, let me know who you recognize and where from.
21:42Yeah, yeah, all right.
21:45Yo, that's the guy right there.
21:49Number four, that's him right there.
21:50Where do you know him from?
21:51He shot Luis, man.
21:55All but four can go.
21:56Screw you, you've been there!
21:58Get out!
21:58You're taking that to Luis, man!
22:00Take it easy.
22:01Go grab some coffee, all right?
22:03Yo, can I go home now, man?
22:04Go grab some coffee.
22:05I'll ask my lieutenant.
22:07All right.
22:07All right.
22:08All right.
22:09All right.
22:11All right.
22:12All right.
22:12All right.
22:12All right.
22:12All right.
22:12All right.
22:12All right.
22:12All right.
22:12All right.
22:12All right.
22:12All right.
22:12All right.
22:14Sends this kid out for some bread.
22:17What kind of toss do you give that bodega?
22:19We were moving pretty fast.
22:20All right.
22:22Keep the witnesses here.
22:23Get Andy.
22:24And toss it again.
22:26Okay.
22:26Okay.
22:26Hey, Lou, this is a sword fighting complaint.
22:42I talked to the stage manager from the theater, and he said absolutely this famous actor guy
22:48was out of line.
22:49Okay.
22:49Yeah.
22:50Yeah.
22:50Yeah.
22:50Yeah.
22:50Yeah.
22:50He says it's the skips is like, you know, one of those larger than life kind of guys,
22:55you know, uh, he gives everybody a hard time.
22:58Okay.
22:59Bring him in.
23:00Yeah.
23:00Yeah.
23:00At the same time, uh, some of the other actors said that, uh, you know, you always get
23:05bruised up, uh, doing stunts and, uh, and such in a performance.
23:09Also, according to them, the complainant, uh, was rather stiff in that scene, which angered
23:16the other guy, who's high-strung with very high standards.
23:20Look, what do you want to do with the complaint, Greg?
23:22Uh, I fi- I figured I'd, uh, bring the other guy in.
23:25Good.
23:26Do that.
23:36You okay, boss?
23:39A decent guy, shaping to get screwed in this bodega homicide.
23:45Gentlemen?
23:46Hey, how's it going, Roberts?
23:48Okay, by the way.
23:50You still lobbing scuds at the PAA?
23:54I'll keep you posted, Lou.
23:56Yeah.
23:59We might have something on the grandpa car.
24:01Yeah.
24:02Bobby Simone asked me to come in.
24:05He said you had some action on that.
24:07There he is.
24:08He'll run up for you.
24:09How's your family, Lou?
24:12Good.
24:14You know how yours is sort?
24:16Yeah.
24:18They're good.
24:27Mike Roberts, man.
24:28Hey, Mike.
24:29Thanks for coming in.
24:30Thanks for coming in.
24:30Sure.
24:31You're looking at the grandpa car again, huh?
24:33Yeah.
24:34You know, I got a C.I.'s gave up some names.
24:38Trying to see if they're alive.
24:39Yeah, I hate it.
24:40Not clearing that.
24:41Whack two ex-cops.
24:44Mike, you did an interview on that case with a Brendan Bickles.
24:48Yeah, he worked for the security company.
24:50Didn't go anyplace.
24:52You know what?
24:52See, my guy says he was in it.
24:55Well, shame on me, then.
24:57I think I talked to him in the golf field over on 23rd.
25:00Right.
25:01DMV still shows him over there.
25:02We're going to pick him up.
25:04Is there anything that I can push him with that didn't get into your five?
25:08You know, did he gamble, use?
25:09I only talked to him off working for the company.
25:12I had no reason to like the guy.
25:15My C.I. also gave up Jimmy Fredo, Tom Ritella.
25:19Did that do anything for you?
25:20Nothing.
25:21Neither one.
25:23Well, thanks for coming in.
25:25I remember talking to this Bick, you know, the Garfield Hotel.
25:30You know, as many as you did, it's crazy how you can remember.
25:32Yeah, I appreciate you coming in.
25:35Hey, I hope you collar up on this.
25:39Listen, opportunity presents itself.
25:43You might ask, does your lieutenant plan on lightening up on me before the new century?
25:54Take care.
25:55All right, mate.
25:55Thanks.
25:56Okay.
26:17Clark said he went to get some smokes.
26:19Be back in a few minutes.
26:22Didn't I hear about this, Roberts?
26:24Had a junkie girlfriend.
26:26Yeah, she killed us.
26:28I was driving for the commissioner then, but they said they caught him cleaning out her place.
26:33Roberts was robbing her apartment?
26:35No.
26:35He was married.
26:37You know, so he was trying to get rid of pictures, anything they could put him with.
26:43It's Bick.
26:43Not much to look at, huh?
26:45Not much to look at, huh?
26:51Check this out over here.
26:52That's the rat squad.
26:56I'd be sitting on this?
26:57What the fuck is up with that?
27:00Up with that.
27:00Up with that.
27:00Up with that.
27:00Up with that.
27:00Up with that.
27:00Up with that.
27:13You need me, Martins?
27:15Why, you got a guilty conscience?
27:17Answer the question.
27:18We're picking up a suspect.
27:19It's got nothing to do with you.
27:21Uh-huh.
27:22There's the guy across the street.
27:24Hey, that's my guy.
27:28That's our guy.
27:29You back off.
27:41Take it easy.
27:42Get your hands up.
27:43I didn't do anything.
27:44Get your hands up.
27:46You bringing in Bickle?
27:47I didn't do anything.
27:49What are you worried about?
27:50He's our suspect, Simone.
27:52This is our suspect.
27:53We're taking him to our house.
27:54I didn't do anything.
27:55Shut up.
27:57He's our collar, Simone.
27:58Now, don't talk to him until we straighten this out.
28:00Yeah, right.
28:01Even if he's begging to confess.
28:03What the hell good are these cameras?
28:24They don't tape anything.
28:26Didn't they were bluffing this black guy about there being a gun back here?
28:28Guy sticks a gun in their face.
28:30They're going to pretend they got one, too.
28:32Yeah, that wouldn't make sense.
28:34That gun was there.
28:35They moved it.
28:37Cigarettes, aspirins, condoms, batteries.
28:40Amazing variety of merchandise that fit behind the counter of these little stores.
28:44Guys get tanked all day long.
28:46Start at 8 o'clock in the morning.
28:47I'm going to check the dumpster.
28:50Yeah.
28:53Martinez.
28:54What do you got?
28:55Here.
28:58Here, you want popsicle?
28:59They went in the freezer?
29:01Yeah.
29:01Won't you keep your guns there?
29:02We've been on this pickles for three months.
29:15And our information, he's involved with a cop.
29:18Our information is he's a cop killer.
29:21One don't leave the other out.
29:22Let's stop playing footsie.
29:25Come on.
29:26My C.I.'s name is Ray DeSalvo.
29:33He's doing time right now with a Jimmy Fredo,
29:35who claims that he pulled the grandpa shootings with this Bic,
29:40and a Tom Ritella who's locked up right now in Ohio,
29:43and another guy that Ray didn't have the name on.
29:46Which would make it your turn?
29:49I'm not authorized to share my information.
29:54You know, you guys are the best.
29:57Look, you don't want to share information?
30:00This Bic isn't a cop.
30:01So my guys will run the interview
30:03and tell us to establish a cop's involved.
30:09Stay out of my way.
30:14Close the door on those bidet, you guys.
30:16Okay.
30:22Are you done, Ray?
30:24I'm Louise Freeman.
30:25This is my son.
30:26How you doing?
30:27Delroy's interested in the wanted flyers.
30:30Policeman draw?
30:31Yeah, some of them.
30:32This is Delroy Freeman.
30:34His mom, Detective Lesniak.
30:36How do you do?
30:37Hello.
30:37How you doing, Delroy?
30:39Why don't you come on in here, Delroy?
30:41I'm going to sit right there.
30:44Okay.
30:48So, Delroy, you know why we brought you here?
30:52Junior got into a fight.
30:54Can you remember how that started, Delroy?
30:56Junior had to buy all over bread, and we didn't go to the grocery.
31:01So, Junior is Gregory Light, Junior?
31:03Yes.
31:03Okay.
31:04So, then they thought it changed on the floor, and Junior didn't like it.
31:08Then, all of a sudden, they went crazy, punching and kicking.
31:11Did they punch and kick you?
31:13They wasn't mad at me.
31:14They were mad at Junior, punching and punching.
31:17So, I went down the street to tell his dad, you got to do something, because they're going
31:21to kill him.
31:22Is that what you said?
31:24You told Junior's dad they were killing him?
31:27Yeah, because they were stomping him.
31:29So, he went down with his gun and shot him dead.
31:32I don't see that part.
31:35You got to look in this bag.
31:36Okay.
31:39Thanks for coming down.
31:41I appreciate it.
31:43You take care, all right?
31:45I want you to tell me this all again, so I can write it down.
31:50Okay?
31:51Oh, man, oh, man.
31:54Something wrong, Vic?
31:56No.
31:57No, you tried to live your life.
32:00You get dragged off the street.
32:02Army of people stands staring at you.
32:04No, there's nothing wrong.
32:05You know why you're here.
32:06You've been waiting for this day.
32:08No, I don't.
32:08I don't know.
32:09Okay, Vic.
32:14This is connected with two guys who did 20 years on this job before they started working
32:19security.
32:20Two ex-cops who were making an armored car delivery with a firm that you happened to be working
32:26with.
32:26This is crazy.
32:27What's crazy?
32:28It had nothing to do with that robbery.
32:30I was talked to at the time.
32:31Look around, Vic.
32:32You think anyone here thinks it's crazy liking you for those homicides?
32:37Can't help what you people think.
32:39So Jimmy Fredo is lying.
32:43What?
32:44And Tom Rotella, he's lying.
32:47Because they gave you up, Vic.
32:51They say you shot those cops.
32:53Both of them say it was you.
32:55No way.
32:56Forget it.
32:57No way.
32:57Two ex-cops.
33:00You know how that means we're going to go at you right now.
33:03Leave me alone.
33:04What, are they lying?
33:05Fred and Rotella, they lying?
33:07Anyone tell you that is lying.
33:09That's crazy what they're talking to you.
33:11I don't think so.
33:14Two ex-cops.
33:16And I think that you killed them.
33:18I killed no one.
33:20You're looking at an injection here, Vic.
33:22What you say in this room right now, what you say, that's your way out.
33:33I gave him some information.
33:36Delivery times.
33:37I was nowhere near that robbery, all right?
33:44Give up Ernie Kowalski.
33:49You give up the cop, and you'll skate.
33:55You get me a lawyer, and you put that in writing, and then we'll talk.
34:03That's it.
34:07He was gone.
34:12I had him.
34:13You didn't have to give him squat.
34:15You'd have got the two in jail.
34:16I would have had him for the package, and if I would have had that cop's name, I could have moved him for it all.
34:20Who's the writing DA?
34:23You give this guy a walk before you trust me to do my job.
34:26Well, because I'm not as good as you, right, Martins?
34:28Yeah, you only trust IAB.
34:30Hey!
34:33Now, you trust any of us?
34:35Who's the writing DA?
34:42Costas.
34:44I'll call her.
34:45I'll get this guy someone from Lail 8.
34:49I had him.
34:49How long am I going to have to be here?
35:00Someone called my agent.
35:02Mr. Gibson, if you'd just cooperate, things would go a lot easier.
35:05Strange men in little suits appear at the door of your dressing room, and suddenly you're in some dirty office.
35:12No one knows why.
35:13It's Pinter.
35:18God, is that Raleigh Gibson?
35:21I don't know.
35:24My God, it is Raleigh Gibson.
35:28I've got to get my brownie.
35:33Mr. Gibson, I'd like you to make a statement regarding Mr. Kale's complaint.
35:38Statement?
35:40A little turd about just what was coming to him.
35:43Where do I sign?
35:45Mr. Gibson, did you strike Mr. Cahill with a broadsword?
35:50I was acting, detective.
35:52Are you aware of the distinction between theater and reality?
35:56So you're saying that you didn't intend to harm him?
36:00I intended to kill him.
36:02In the context of the scene, his intention should have been to defend himself.
36:06But you have been hitting Mr. Cahill with a sword.
36:10You admit that?
36:11I was trying to engage him, to make him commit instead of drifting about the stage in a terrified haze.
36:20Truth to tell, I was doing the bloody fool a favor.
36:23By hitting him.
36:25Detective.
36:25Mr. Cahill shows some mild promise as an actor.
36:31By bringing charges which can serve only to curtail his career, he demonstrates a staggering lack of imagination.
36:38I intended to provoke him.
36:40I meant him no harm.
36:43Now, with due respect, the very limited appeal this conversation has for me is now exhausted.
36:50May I go?
36:50Uh, I don't know if charges will be laid.
36:58I have to talk with my boss.
37:00In the outcome, you obviously know where to find me.
37:02Mr. Gibson.
37:04Uh, sorry for intruding, but I am such a fan.
37:08Would, would you mind?
37:10Um, Miss Abadano?
37:12I may soon be posing with little numbers across my chest.
37:23You guys hold me forever, just cause I'm on parole?
37:35That's my boss.
37:37We're gonna talk about this morning again, Rico.
37:41The guy came in shooting.
37:42He killed Luis, okay?
37:44How many times do you need to hear it?
37:45Start with the assault.
37:47He came looking to fight you.
37:48Don't start when you beat his son.
37:50That assault.
37:51Why'd he beat his son?
37:53That man sent his boy out for a loaf of bread, and you and your friends kicked him around.
37:59Now, you're gonna get collared for that, and then we're gonna violate your parole.
38:03Man, I don't believe this.
38:04You are what, um, three years on your last bit?
38:07What, you think you can kick this kid around without getting your parole violated?
38:11I was even back there.
38:13I was standing on the aisle.
38:16Okay.
38:18Okay, now we're gonna deal with the guns.
38:20Guns?
38:21There wasn't no guns, man.
38:30There were guns.
38:33You stashed them in the freezer.
38:34We're sending these to the lab, Raco.
38:37To lift your prints, you're done.
38:40I wasn't even back there.
38:43Threw one afterwards.
38:46That's how my prints got on.
38:48I'm throwing it in the freezer.
38:50Luis yelled, Samuel went for the gun.
38:53I'm only a witness.
38:54Give it up, then.
38:55What Luis yelled to Samuel, he said, kill him.
39:02Matalo.
39:03You told him in Spanish.
39:15What you write now is gonna be as important for how you live the rest of your life as what happened this morning.
39:23You need to give a clear picture of what you saw and did and what you were feeling as things took place.
39:32Luis, if you were afraid for your son, and your own fear once you were inside, then that's something you should talk about.
39:41I was afraid.
39:43And I was angry.
39:44If your fear was the most important thing, if it guided your actions, then that's definitely something you should say.
39:58You don't want to clutter it up.
40:00Ten different feelings.
40:03To be afraid for your life.
40:06And what made you feel that way?
40:08There's specific events.
40:11When he reached under the counter.
40:13The shouting.
40:14Hearing the other man shout to him.
40:17Then seeing the man behind the counter.
40:20I didn't see the gun.
40:23But I knew he was going for it.
40:26You knew from what the other guy shouted.
40:30The other man shouted, kill him.
40:33So you knew the counter man was reaching for a gun.
40:36That that's what he had shouted in Spanish.
40:39For the district attorney to know that you understood the expression.
40:51That you knew Matalo meant kill him.
40:54In Spanish.
40:56And that put you in fear for your life.
40:59That's big.
41:01That's big.
41:01You're understanding that.
41:11That's why I was afraid.
41:14He was reaching for the gun.
41:17Because the other fellow shouted, kill him.
41:22In Spanish.
41:25Matalo.
41:25Matalo.
41:29Matalo.
41:29Present in the room.
41:59Detective Kowalski.
42:00Detective Kowalski signed to Narcotics Division.
42:03His counsel and a union delegate.
42:06Also present, Sergeants Lasky and Martins with the Internal Affairs Bureau.
42:12Detective, you acknowledge being given your rights.
42:15Detective Kowalski, do you know a Jimmy Fredo, a Tom Rotella, or a Brendan Bickles?
42:28I decline to answer that, as is my right under the Fifth Amendment.
42:32Your name has come up in connection with an armored car robbery that took place September 9, 1992.
42:40What was your involvement in that incident?
42:42I decline to answer.
42:44And accomplish what?
42:46You decline an answer if you know guys that we know you know?
42:49What, you think I'm an asshole?
42:50That one I'll answer.
42:51No, you won't.
42:52You realize if you fail to answer, under G.O. 15 you're suspended.
42:59I'll live.
43:03Detective Kowalski, you're now suspended.
43:06I'll relieve you of your shield and your weapon.
43:08Can he go now?
43:18No.
43:20Now I'm placing him under arrest.
43:22What?
43:23Stand up.
43:25Don't look at your lawyer for help, Kowalski.
43:28You thought you were walking out of here with just a suspension?
43:31Or you're going to jail?
43:33Now we'll see who the asshole is.
43:38Oh, Mr. Kale.
43:54Thanks for coming in again.
43:56Are you going to charge him?
43:58Have a seat.
43:59My investigation, Mr. Kale, there's a basis to file for assault, which I doubt it'd get far in court, but he'd definitely be put in the system, Mr. Gibson.
44:18He'd be in jail briefly with a need to make bail, so forth.
44:21That's what I want.
44:22Mr. Kale, I'm obviously ignorant, but couldn't filing charges like this be negative on your career outlook, you know, rather than some form of compromise, some triad discussion?
44:38There'd be no point.
44:40He won't stop.
44:41He hates me.
44:44He has no respect for my acting.
44:47He said you had promise.
44:49Who did?
44:50Mr. Gibson, his account was, you were promising on stage, but in a haze, which he was trying to prod you out of.
44:58Do you think he meant it?
45:00Or was he just trying to avoid charges?
45:02No, I don't think he was too worried about the charges.
45:05And I'd say he was sincere about your promise, while seeming not to like you too much personally.
45:13I thought he was just trying to humiliate me, to show that I had no business on stage.
45:21We can charge third degree of salt, Mr. Kale.
45:27Do you want to go forward?
45:32No, no, I don't.
45:35All right.
45:38I'm sorry I took up your time.
45:41Actually, I enjoyed it somewhat.
45:44I had an experience in the theater.
45:46Well, thank you very much.
45:48Anytime.
45:49Anytime.
45:51Banquo.
45:54Excuse me?
45:56I saw you at the public in the Scottish play.
45:59Thank you for the evening.
46:02You're welcome.
46:06I'm sorry.
46:08How much of this is corroborated?
46:15The son's being beaten was witnessed.
46:20Plus, the friend confirmed, telling the father he thought the kid was being killed.
46:24A witness in the bodega cooperates.
46:27One of the victims shouted in Spanish for the counterman to kill Light.
46:30Matalo, which Light understood.
46:33Yeah.
46:33And you recovered the weapon that the counterman reached for?
46:36Yeah.
46:38Well, the grand jury's going to have to look at this, but I doubt that we'll want to indict this man.
46:43He might get charged with the unregistered gun.
46:46Thanks, Sylvia.
46:47Tell this guy her impression, huh?
46:55Yeah.
46:56All right.
46:56All right.
46:56Try and follow this.
47:16By me not giving up that name, that's supposed to make your life easier.
47:24You don't have Kowalski's name.
47:26Even if you and him went to the academy together, your partner bowls with him, you had pizza once on a retreat.
47:32Any pals you might be where you'd want to protect them.
47:35And you don't get to make that mistake.
47:38You're looking out for me.
47:39You're keeping me from temptation.
47:42Crackwise all you want.
47:43If you'd have queered that interview with Bick, and you had Kowalski's name, then I gotta come looking at you.
47:49Yeah.
47:50Well, thanks for being in my corner.
47:52Look.
47:55No one's always a liar, and no one's always corrupt.
47:59Everything is a situation.
48:00You keep people out of situations, and you keep them out of trouble.
48:05I just hope that my informant don't lose out on the sentence reduction because you people took over the case.
48:18Why is that funny?
48:20Who do you think our informant was?
48:25Your buddy, DeSalvo?
48:27He shopped us this package three months ago with all the names.
48:32He came to you when he got afraid we weren't moving.
48:34He left Kowalski out because he knew you'd have to notify us.
48:40Yeah, okay.
48:41You might want to know.
48:46He shopped you to us, too.
48:49Said you reached out to an arresting cop on a coat collar.
48:53Got the cop to let him walk.
48:57So where am I with that?
49:00You're all right.
49:03I looked into it.
49:04Everything's a situation.
49:31You worked that good.
49:32He, uh, felt like he deserved a break.
49:37Yeah.
49:39Not because of who he was.
49:41Straight up.
49:44You mean that wasn't one of those, uh, affirmative action investigations?
49:50No.
49:52No.
49:53I didn't think so.
49:56Good night.
49:58Good night.
49:59You worked that good, too.
50:02Good night.
50:27they colored those guys right one of them confessed is that right
50:41that's that's great yeah and you know that third guy the one that
50:49you didn't have the name on turns out he was a cop
50:53he's behind the whole thing huh interesting guy's name was kowalski
51:04of course you knew that already right ray and you made me the jerk holding it back
51:13well now that was not my intention your intention was playing all the angles for yourself
51:21i spoke to police internal affairs several months ago but they disappeared from the picture
51:27i never heard from them that was a free ball what i gave you
51:31they were sitting on that cop ray they moved the same time that we did
51:37i had no knowledge of that neither did i you didn't give it to me
51:43oh come on bobby i i know how cops feel about collaring their own i i wanted to spare you that
51:49you would say anything ray huh the moon is made of cream cheese
51:59hey i don't like the tone of this
52:02now my information produced the rests
52:06iab scholar you should look to them to deliver
52:09just a minute just a minute now you people better not wilch
52:13maybe you can sweeten the pot with iab you can offer them me again
52:18offer them you what
52:20what are you talking about buddy
52:24let me tell you something
52:27i know
52:29you offered me to them
52:31all right
52:32you stand there right now and lie to me
52:35i will break your jaw
52:37oh my god
52:39my god i'm gonna be screwed i know it
52:42you're gonna stick the knife in me aren't you bobby
52:45no ray
52:52you are gonna get your deal
52:57i am
52:59i am so grateful
53:04move your hands
53:05yeah sure
53:10i understand
53:12i just asked that you would understand as well about me giving you up
53:18i mean i i was in a situation bobby
53:20hey ray
53:31i don't want to see you on the outside ray
53:45all right
53:46i don't care what your situation is
53:51on the gate
53:53i'm sorry bobby
54:01i'm sorry
54:20bro