NYPD Blue Season 3 Episode 16 Girl Talk
Category
📺
TVTranscript
00:00Greg?
00:13Hey, what do we got?
00:15Yeah, little girl went off the roof.
00:18I think she hit the bracket on the way down.
00:21Got a name on her?
00:23Yeah, Miriam de Guzman.
00:25The mother's over here.
00:27I guess we should let her have a look at the body.
00:30I'll let Andy take a look at this.
00:36What?
00:37Oh, that little girl, sir.
00:40She's the same age as my Katie.
00:47Look at your marks.
00:49There's semen all over her dress.
00:52The bastard raped and strangled this girl before he tossed her.
00:57Andy, I'm going to take a look upstairs.
00:59We'll be back in a few minutes to talk to these people.
01:02Yeah, okay.
01:04I'm sorry, ma'am.
01:05Mrs. de Guzman.
01:09I'm Detective Simone.
01:11I'm with the New York City Police Department.
01:12It's Detective Sipowitz over there.
01:15I'm very sorry for the loss, ma'am.
01:17I want to see her.
01:17I want to see her.
01:19We'll let you see Miriam in just a minute.
01:21We have to ask you a few questions, though.
01:23I sent her to the corner to get notebook paper for her homework.
01:32And then a few minutes later, all these people were in the street yelling.
01:38I didn't think it was Miriam.
01:42Why would she be on the roof?
01:45When Miriam left the apartment to go to the store, did you see anybody outside in the hall?
01:50No.
01:51You didn't hear anything?
01:52What would I have heard?
01:54You see what we're trying to get to, Mrs. de Guzman, that it doesn't look like Miriam's fall was an accident.
02:02We're thinking maybe she was thrown or pushed.
02:07You think somebody killed her?
02:10You think it's possible, yes.
02:12And so this person was in the building, and to get to the roof, he took her by the door of my apartment.
02:24My daughter got carried past my apartment with me inside.
02:29Ay, por favor, déjame verla.
02:32Let me see my daughter.
02:36All right, come on.
02:37Come on.
02:41Andy, I thought you wanted to talk to this guy.
02:45You guys got something.
02:47Well, he'll tell you.
02:49Greg found something on top of the stairwell.
02:51I'm going to go take some Polaroids before we bring it down.
02:55Thanks.
02:56Come on.
02:59What's your name?
03:00Faw.
03:01Phil Faw.
03:02I didn't see nobody.
03:04But I heard something.
03:05What'd you hear?
03:06I'm practicing to be a DJ, right?
03:09So I'm in my apartment.
03:11I'm doing my riff.
03:12And I hear the kid scream going down the window.
03:15I mean, she went right by my window.
03:17I got it on tape right here.
03:19Rockin' down and around with the Faw, man.
03:22Fast, Phil Faw.
03:23I'll take you as far.
03:25Huh?
03:26How about that?
03:30You're going to need this tape.
03:32Wait.
03:33That's my property.
03:34You get your property back when we're done with it.
03:37That's worth something, man.
03:39Some station's going to pick that up.
03:41Call the 15 squad about your tape in a little while.
03:45Look, that's going to get me some exposure.
03:47Don't say nothing more to me right now.
03:49Don't say nothing more to me right now.
04:19Don't say nothing more to me right now.
04:49Don't say nothing more to me right now.
05:19So, um, when did this happen, Ms. McCleary?
05:23Last night.
05:24Last night.
05:25Um, excuse me one second.
05:30Hey, Diane, I'm catching.
05:32Could you give me a hand with something?
05:34Sure.
05:34A woman says she's been raped.
05:37What's her name?
05:38Uh, Farrell McCleary.
05:43Ms. McCleary, this is Detective Russell.
05:45I thought you might be more comfortable talking with her.
05:48Hi.
05:49Somebody raped me last night.
05:53Why don't we go in here and talk about him?
05:56Do you mind if Detective Martinez comes with us?
05:59No.
06:07My name's Diane Farrell.
06:09Would you like to sit down?
06:11Mm-mm.
06:13All right, why don't you just tell us what happened?
06:16Last night I went to this bar,
06:18the Tick-Tock Grill over on East 7th.
06:22And I met this guy.
06:24He seemed pretty nice.
06:27And we were having some drinks and getting along, you know.
06:32So, he said that he would walk me home.
06:36He said his name was Mark Drennan.
06:41He said he was an English teacher for some high school uptown.
06:48What time did you and Mr. Drennan leave this bar?
06:5110 o'clock.
06:5210 o'clock, maybe.
06:54We got to my building, and he...
06:57This guy seemed like a good guy.
07:02So, I asked him if he wanted to come up and have a drink.
07:09So, you asked him up.
07:13And I let him kiss me some.
07:14And then he started to...
07:20He was pushing his hands up under my skirt,
07:25and I told him that I didn't want to do that.
07:29But he wouldn't stop.
07:31And so I...
07:32I tried to get away from him,
07:36but he pushed me onto the floor.
07:39And then he...
07:41He got on top of me,
07:43and he...
07:44He...
07:45I...
07:48I know this is hard, Farrell.
07:52You need to be real specific about what happened.
08:00He entered me.
08:02He...
08:04He...
08:05He...
08:06He raped me.
08:09Did he ejaculate?
08:14Yes.
08:16Did you resist, or...
08:17Did you feel you'd be safe to cooperate?
08:20I tried to scream,
08:22and he kept kissing me, so I couldn't.
08:26Do you remember if you hit him or scratched him?
08:29I don't remember specifically.
08:34Did he hit you?
08:36No.
08:38No, he didn't hit me.
08:41But he raped me.
08:46I have bruises on my hips where he held me down.
08:50What did you do after this happened?
08:58I locked myself in the bathroom
09:00until about an hour ago.
09:04Did you bathe or shower?
09:05It took me 12 hours to get myself out of the bathroom,
09:10but I knew enough not to do that.
09:13Good.
09:14If it's all right with you, Farrell,
09:16we'd like to take Polaroids of the bruises
09:19and then send you over to St. Vincent's
09:22to have a doctor look at you.
09:28There you go.
09:29Thanks.
09:31Mark Drennan, that's the man's name?
09:33Yes.
09:34I'm gonna go on through PCI, all right?
09:39I am so ashamed.
09:40I asked this man into my home.
09:47Would you show me the bruises
09:49and I'll take the pictures?
09:54I'll stand over here by the door
09:56so no one can come in.
09:59Could you come forward a bit?
10:10I'll take it.
10:30Did the mother ID of the time?
10:32No.
10:33No witnesses.
10:35No.
10:36Greg and Adrian, they talked to the super.
10:38They got the names of everybody in the building,
10:40so they're gonna be running that through PCI.
10:42Plus, we're running the building through cars
10:44to see if it has any kind of history as a crime scene.
10:48Rapes her, strangles her,
10:51and throws her off the building.
10:54Ten-year-old girl.
10:58The uniform will take you to the hospital.
11:01I'll call you after.
11:06What's this?
11:07Woman meets the perfect man.
11:09Turns out to be a creep.
11:13Hey, Diane,
11:14I talked to somebody at Lincoln Park.
11:16The Strennan teacher's there,
11:17but he's not in today.
11:19They gave me his home address.
11:21Let's go pick him up.
11:22All right.
11:23Anything on your little girl?
11:25Greg found the guy's Italian.
11:28Hey, Pops.
11:29Hey, how you doing, son?
11:31Andy J.
11:32Hey, so I hear you're joining the Hackersack Force.
11:35Yeah, they accepted me for training.
11:38Congratulations, man.
11:39That's great.
11:39Thanks a lot.
11:41I just had to come into the city
11:42and get a copy of my birth certificate.
11:45Paperwork already, huh?
11:46Yeah.
11:48Dad, if you're okay doing this other thing tomorrow,
11:51Mom's flipping a little bit about me joining up.
11:54I thought I'd cook her pasta tonight,
11:56calm her down.
11:58Yeah, we can do it tomorrow.
11:59I mean, I don't want to lose the chance with you.
12:01No, tomorrow's good.
12:02Coming like round four?
12:04Yeah.
12:05All right.
12:06I'll see you then.
12:07See you, Bobby.
12:08The candy.
12:08The candy.
12:09Excuse me.
12:11I'm going to take them on the street
12:19after my tour a little bit.
12:21Show them the ropes.
12:22Yeah, huh?
12:24Hey, guys.
12:25Martina Escobar from up at the 27.
12:28She's working on a case from last week.
12:3111-year-old girl raped, thrown off her roof
12:34up at 96th and 2nd.
12:36She's going to bring a sift down?
12:37It's on her way.
12:41Martina Escobar.
12:45You ever get a look at her?
12:47Complete knockout.
12:50You know her?
12:51We took a course together.
12:52I never met her.
12:54All I know, she got her first-grade money
12:56the year I got screwed out of mine.
13:11Can I help you?
13:11Mark Drennan?
13:12Yeah.
13:13I'm Mark Drennan.
13:14We're New York City Detectives, Mr. Drennan.
13:18Your name's come up in regard to one of our investigations.
13:22We're wanting you to come down to the precinct
13:24so we can ask you a few questions.
13:26Questions about war?
13:27It's okay, Lizzie.
13:28We'll fill you in down at the station house.
13:31Am I under arrest?
13:33We just need to clear up a few things.
13:35But you're not going to tell me why you're here.
13:39Mark?
13:40It's nothing.
13:41I got it.
13:44This is a serious matter, Mr. Drennan.
13:46We were hoping you would come down like a gentleman
13:48so we wouldn't have to put you in handcuffs
13:50at Heathops at the little girl.
13:54Sweetie, go tell Mommy that I have to talk to these people
13:56for a couple minutes, okay?
14:02All right.
14:04Look, I don't want to go anywhere with you
14:06until you tell me what this is all about.
14:09Someone's bringing a rape charge against you, Mr. Drennan.
14:12A rape?
14:14What?
14:15Would you come with us, please?
14:18Better get your call, all right?
14:20Edie, I gotta go someplace.
14:27I'll be back soon.
14:27Edie, I gotta go someplace.
14:28I'll be back soon.
14:50Yeah, well, any information given?
14:57Hi, I'm Detective Escobar.
14:59All right, thank you.
15:01Bobby Simone.
15:04Hey, Martina.
15:06How's it going?
15:06Man, it's really nice to see you.
15:08It's been a while.
15:09You, uh, I don't want to think about it.
15:12You look good, Bobby.
15:14Andy, Martina Escobar.
15:16We went through the, uh, CIC course together
15:19about, uh, what, a hundred years ago?
15:22My partner, Andy Seppowitz.
15:25Escobar liked the drug guy.
15:27He's my uncle.
15:30Comedian.
15:33Case I'm working on.
15:35Victim's name is Rosa Carrillo.
15:36She's an 11-year-old kid.
15:38She's in the hospital with multiple fractures.
15:41Her clothesline broke her fall.
15:42She get a look at this guy?
15:43As much as we can get.
15:45And we know that it was a white guy
15:46wearing a blue leather jacket.
15:48Blue leather.
15:49Well, that's pretty much all she could see
15:51while it was happening.
15:52We also have this.
15:56This little girl just fell off the roof.
15:59You gotta send somebody.
16:00What's your location, sir?
16:02You know, man, it's the corner 96th and 2nd.
16:05832, the number's 832-96th Street.
16:07Sir, what's the phone number?
16:09What's the number you're calling from, sir?
16:12We trace this to a phone booth
16:15half a block down the street.
16:16Guy seems very nervous.
16:18Yeah.
16:19You wanna trade cases?
16:21Yeah.
16:24Come here.
16:27We've got a suspect on that, right?
16:29Am I...
16:30Um, interview one's open.
16:32Who's that?
16:32That is Detective Escobar from the 2-7.
16:36She's working on that homicide
16:38with Detective Simone.
16:40She's coming through my desk.
16:44Detective?
16:45Can I get you any work materials?
16:47Yeah, I'm looking for a fresh notebook.
16:49I got one right here.
16:53There you go.
16:55Look, I just wanna tell you right off.
17:00I...
17:00I really have no idea
17:01what this is about.
17:03Do you know a Pharoah McCleary,
17:04Mr. Drennan?
17:06Yeah, I met her last night.
17:08But I didn't rape her.
17:10Is that what she said?
17:10She said I raped her?
17:12Yeah, Mark, she did.
17:15That's nuts.
17:16I met this girl in a bar
17:19and I ended up going home with her.
17:21That's all.
17:22Did you have sexual relations with her?
17:25Yeah, she wanted to.
17:26Some kind of ladies' man, Mark.
17:30Hardly.
17:31I'm married.
17:32Which means what?
17:33Which means I cheated on my wife.
17:36But that doesn't make me a rapist.
17:38Look, my wife and I,
17:40things have been kind of a mess
17:42between us lately and...
17:44I don't do this sort of thing often.
17:46But last night I ended up
17:47going out for a drink, you know?
17:49And I met this girl in a bar.
17:51We started getting along
17:53and things started to get kind of hot.
17:57What do you mean, kind of hot?
17:59You mean you were kissing her,
18:00feeling her up?
18:02Both.
18:03This is in the bar?
18:04Yeah, in the bar.
18:06And then she said she had to go
18:08and would I mind walking her home.
18:09She asked you?
18:11Yeah, she did.
18:12And we ended up making out on the street.
18:14And then she said,
18:15do I want to come upstairs?
18:17And I mean, I'm not about to say no.
18:19It's been a while
18:20since my wife's been particularly interested.
18:24So,
18:24we went up to her place
18:27and we made love.
18:29She was into it.
18:30Did you use a condom?
18:31No.
18:34No, I know,
18:35I know that's stupid.
18:37But, uh,
18:39we were both pretty wasting.
18:42According to Miss McCleary,
18:43she said she asked you to stop
18:45and you wouldn't.
18:46Does that ring any bells
18:47or were you too wasted
18:48to remember that too?
18:50At one point,
18:51she did say maybe we should stop,
18:54but she didn't mean it.
18:55Mm-hmm.
18:57You a mind reader too, Mark?
18:58No, she was taking my shirt off
19:01at the time,
19:02so I took that as an indication.
19:06Look, I'm not into forcing anybody.
19:11You didn't force her?
19:14What's this?
19:15That's what you did to Farrell McCleary.
19:17I didn't do this.
19:20She must have taken a fall or something.
19:22Oh, is that right?
19:25No, no, no.
19:26She told me about this.
19:27She takes some, uh,
19:29gymnastics class
19:31at the, at the Y,
19:32and she told me
19:32she banged herself up
19:33working out.
19:36Check it out.
19:38Would you please?
19:39Check it out.
19:40Look, when I left,
19:41she kissed me goodnight.
19:43This, this,
19:44this isn't a rape.
19:49Here you go.
19:52Not too optimistic.
19:53I'm gonna get anything
19:54from this guy's time.
19:55We're four for ten bucks
19:57from every peddler in the city.
19:59Detective Escobar,
20:00call for you on line two.
20:02Thanks.
20:04Escobar.
20:07Ah, dime.
20:09Figures will trace
20:10where the perp bought the tie.
20:12She said we'd zero on the tie.
20:14Puerto Rican labor union
20:21is offering a $10,000 reward
20:23for any information
20:24leading to this perp's arrest.
20:26Reward, huh?
20:27Their kids are being attacked.
20:29They want to help.
20:30Anybody really knows
20:32what happened,
20:33they know that
20:33we'll pay for information.
20:35Here, all we're gonna get
20:36is a bunch of amateurs
20:37loose and people
20:38looking to settle
20:39private grudges.
20:40Except for what's
20:53calling about the reward.
20:56Okay.
20:57Can you speak a little
20:58better English here?
20:59On the phone,
21:05you wouldn't say
21:05why you needed
21:06to talk to me.
21:07Well, we'll just have
21:08to ask you a couple
21:09of questions about
21:09Fowler McCleary,
21:11Miss Keller.
21:11Do you know her?
21:13Mm-hmm.
21:13She's one of my students.
21:15Down at the Y?
21:16Mm-hmm.
21:17What kind of classes
21:18you teach down there?
21:19Gymnastics,
21:20mat work,
21:21uneven parallels,
21:23stuff like that.
21:24Do people ever get hurt
21:25doing that kind of stuff?
21:27Sometimes.
21:27We're pretty safe
21:29in my class, though.
21:31If one of your students
21:32did take a fall
21:33or otherwise injure herself
21:34in one of your sessions,
21:36would you be aware of that?
21:38Not necessarily.
21:39I mean,
21:40Fowler could have
21:41taken a fall or not.
21:42I don't know.
21:43I didn't see it.
21:44I didn't mention
21:45that she had taken a fall.
21:47I assume that's
21:48why you're talking to me.
21:50Did you speak
21:51to Fowler today?
21:53Don't lie,
21:54because we can check.
21:55I wasn't gonna lie.
21:56I did talk to Farrell.
21:59She called to say
22:00she couldn't make
22:01tonight's class.
22:02Did she tell you
22:03anything else?
22:05Hmm.
22:07Okay.
22:09All right,
22:10thanks for coming in.
22:11Sure.
22:12My pleasure.
22:16I think Miss McCleary
22:25got to her.
22:26Why would she do that?
22:27You don't think
22:28that woman was lying?
22:29I don't know
22:29what she was doing,
22:30but that didn't support
22:31Drennan's story.
22:32He knew about
22:33the gym class, Diane.
22:35Where's he gonna hear that
22:36unless it's from her?
22:37She made up the rape,
22:38called her gym teacher,
22:39got her to lie
22:40about the bruises.
22:41Why is she doing all this?
22:42Maybe she sleeps with him,
22:44finds out he's married,
22:46and now she's pissed off.
22:48So what are you saying?
22:49You wanna get this guy
22:49a walk?
22:52Maybe we should
22:52talk to the boss.
22:57All right?
23:01What's up?
23:02I got two possibles.
23:04A lady says
23:05some guy
23:05tried to drag her kid
23:06into a stairwell,
23:08and this one,
23:08a teenager,
23:09he was attacked
23:10with a necktie.
23:11I think we gotta
23:12check him out.
23:13Who are they here?
23:14Staten Island
23:15and the Bronx.
23:17I'm gonna stay
23:18in the phone.
23:18We'll call in.
23:23You're gonna have to
23:23go back to work
23:24on this.
23:25Check with the bar,
23:27see if anybody
23:27remembers these two.
23:29I don't wanna hold
23:30this guy overnight, Lou.
23:31If you release him,
23:32can you get him
23:33to come back in?
23:34Well, he's a family guy.
23:35He's not going anywhere.
23:36Then do it that way.
23:38Doesn't sound like
23:39something I can
23:39authorize overtime on.
23:41You're gonna let
23:41this guy go?
23:43Whose case is it?
23:45I'm the one
23:45who caught it.
23:47It's his call, Dan.
23:58I'm gonna tell
23:59this trend
24:00and he can go home.
24:02Is Bobby around?
24:03Him and Escobar
24:04looking into
24:05some wild goose chase.
24:07Is that Escobar
24:07any good?
24:09Don't jump out at you.
24:11She messed up my desk.
24:12Line one.
24:16Sipowitz.
24:18Hey, Dan.
24:19How are you?
24:19No habla
24:20espanol.
24:22Yeah.
24:23Can you speak English?
24:25Not that I am.
24:26Hi.
24:27English, please.
24:28Martinez.
24:29Another lead
24:30on those child murders.
24:31Skip.
24:32Can you...
24:33Which line is that?
24:34Three.
24:35Hold on, oh.
24:39Hi.
24:40Mari asked me
24:40to stop by,
24:41see how the investigation
24:42was going on
24:43the little girl.
24:43You know,
24:44I tell you,
24:44we're at the crime scene,
24:46nobody sees nothing.
24:47Now the Puerto Rican
24:48labor union
24:49puts out a reward.
24:51Everybody
24:51and their brother
24:52has given up a name
24:53who's going after
24:54these kids.
24:55Yeah.
24:55Well, just keep us posted.
24:58How do you feel?
24:58Another call.
24:59Fine.
25:01Yeah, Sipowitz.
25:03Diane,
25:04we heard that you guys
25:05brought a suspect
25:06in on the rape chart.
25:09Uh, we sent him home.
25:11So?
25:13The, uh,
25:13complainant's
25:14bruised, traumatized.
25:16She's positive
25:17for semen
25:17in her rape kit.
25:19The guy admits
25:20being with her
25:21and, uh,
25:22James Martinez
25:23thinks maybe
25:23the whole thing
25:24was a misunderstanding.
25:26I do.
25:29I've had some
25:29personal experience
25:30in this area.
25:31It's not something
25:32that you
25:32misunderstand.
25:37Yeah.
25:44Hey, Greg.
25:45Hey.
25:47Hey.
25:47Long break, huh?
25:49Yeah.
25:50Everyone's looking
25:51to give up
25:52their mortal enemy.
25:53Huh?
25:54And that date rape,
25:55uh,
25:56I hear you got
25:57problems with that?
25:58Yeah, we brought
25:59the guy in.
26:00And the thing is,
26:01uh, there's some
26:02real questions
26:02what went on.
26:03Oh, yeah, yeah,
26:04there's always
26:05questions with date rape.
26:07But Diane,
26:08as far as she's concerned,
26:09she just wants
26:09to lock the guy up.
26:11Women detectives
26:12get very emotional
26:13with you
26:13on those cases.
26:15Exactly.
26:16And all I'm saying
26:17is, uh,
26:18we should look
26:18into this
26:19a little further
26:20and all of a sudden
26:21the battle lines
26:22are drawn.
26:23Oh, yeah.
26:27I show you.
26:30How's it going?
26:32Fine.
26:37Anyways,
26:38what's the use?
26:59No,
27:00nothing fits.
27:01Hey,
27:07where do you come down
27:08on that Martina's
27:09date rape case?
27:10Yeah,
27:11I don't know
27:12too much about that.
27:14Well,
27:15I gotta say
27:15I was shocked.
27:16Diane Russell
27:17told me the facts
27:18of the case
27:18and it seems
27:19very clear
27:19that the complainant
27:20was sexually coerced.
27:22Yeah.
27:22I'll tell you
27:24something.
27:28I got 25 years in.
27:30Even when I was drinking,
27:32I always did my job.
27:33I closed the
27:34Bucci kidnapping
27:35two years ago.
27:37I'm up for first grade.
27:39Commissioner decides
27:40he's gonna fill the list
27:41with minorities
27:42and women.
27:45What does that have to do
27:46with the Martina's
27:47date rape case?
27:49Just saying.
27:50We got a woman
27:51Detective Escobar
27:53working a pattern
27:54on these roof murders.
27:56She gets her first grade
27:57money the same year
27:58I'm up.
27:5914 years on the job
28:01and she didn't close
28:02no Bucci case.
28:06I'm gonna have to go
28:07to one of those
28:08maternity shops.
28:14Yeah.
28:14Come on.
28:17Ah,
28:17hell.
28:19Okay.
28:20Yeah.
28:21Damn.
28:23What?
28:24Another kid
28:25got thrown off
28:26the roof.
28:30All right, guys,
28:30can you lift
28:31that blanket up,
28:31please?
28:32Okay.
28:33Okay, thanks.
28:46I want to step back there.
28:51All right.
28:51Would you get these people
28:52out of here?
28:53Hey,
28:54little boy,
28:55we haven't ID'd them yet.
28:57Six blocks from the last one.
28:58Yeah.
29:00Got thrown off
29:01of this roof here,
29:02landed on the cab.
29:03Some of her neighbors,
29:04they moved it.
29:06You should talk
29:07to these neighbors?
29:07Nah.
29:10Hey,
29:11hey,
29:11let me ask you.
29:12Hey, hey,
29:13I got it, bud.
29:14Hey, hey, hey,
29:15where are you going?
29:16I just want to talk to you.
29:17I just want to talk to you.
29:18I just want to talk to you.
29:18I just want to talk to you.
29:19I just want to talk to you.
29:19I'm nervous.
29:20Why won't you talk to me?
29:20I don't know anything about this.
29:21How about a guy
29:22in a blue leather jacket?
29:24You know anything about that?
29:25Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo,
29:26bro, bro, bro,
29:26just calmate, okay?
29:27I am talking to him.
29:43Eddie Chavez.
29:47You know him?
29:57The dead boy's name
30:01is Eddie Chavez.
30:01This kid knows his sister.
30:03That kid spoke
30:04perfect English.
30:05Well, he was more
30:06comfortable in Spanish.
30:07All I'm saying,
30:08in English,
30:09we both can question
30:10this kid together.
30:11Yeah, but we needed
30:12the information,
30:13and he obviously
30:14was more comfortable
30:15in Spanish.
30:16Yeah, is that how
30:16you got your shield,
30:18Detective Escobar,
30:19speaking Spanish
30:20to the brass and city hall?
30:21Implying what, Detective?
30:22Implying...
30:23Por favor,
30:24¿tiene información
30:24sobre los niños muertos?
30:26Uh, sÃ.
30:26Un momentito, por favor.
30:29Oh, I'm sorry.
30:30Should I be talking
30:31to them in English?
30:32You shouldn't be talking
30:33to them at all.
30:44We're not open yet.
30:46We're from the police,
30:47the pond.
30:47I called yesterday.
30:49I said we'd be stopping by.
30:50Oh, yeah.
30:51You were working
30:52in the bar Monday?
30:53Yeah.
30:54You recognize this woman?
30:56Yeah, she was here.
30:58She'd come in
30:58with any friends?
30:59No, not usually.
31:01Monday, she got lucky.
31:03Meaning?
31:04She met a guy
31:05who was buying her
31:06some drinks,
31:06and they were
31:07mugging it up.
31:08They were kissing and such?
31:09Yeah, these two
31:10weren't heaped.
31:11I was gonna tell them
31:12to take it somewhere else,
31:13but they figured
31:14that out on their own.
31:15All right.
31:16So this guy
31:16who picked her up,
31:17did you ever see him before?
31:19No.
31:20She's a regular, though.
31:22She pick up
31:22a lot of guys?
31:24No, but when she does,
31:25she means business.
31:26I mean, she's
31:27an attractive woman,
31:29but I think she's
31:30one of these babes
31:31who hears the clock ticking.
31:34Thanks for your opinion,
31:36asshole.
31:47We're gonna have to ask
31:48that Miss McCleary
31:49some hard questions.
31:50She was kissing
31:51the guy in the bar.
31:52Yeah, and on the street, too.
31:53Oh, in the bar
31:55and on the street.
31:56Well, that definitely
31:56means he can rape her.
31:58Hey, Diane,
31:59when that Miss McCleary
32:00first came in,
32:01I found her just as credible
32:02as you did,
32:03but now we're getting
32:04some conflicting information.
32:06There's a lot of
32:06sexual behavior here
32:07that woman didn't
32:08tell us about.
32:09Both of us know
32:10no jury convicts
32:11that guy off
32:12that set of facts.
32:12Not if you're on it.
32:14Hey, I'm sorry
32:15we disagree
32:16on this case, Diane,
32:17but I'm just trying
32:18to do my job.
32:20If that makes me look
32:21insensitive,
32:21I'm willing to live with it.
32:22Okay, bye, Mommy.
32:41My mom's going
32:45straight to the hospital,
32:46so if you want to
32:47talk to her,
32:47that's where she'll be.
32:49Okay.
32:50What time did your
32:51brother or Eddie
32:51go to school this morning?
32:53About eight.
32:55I was worried
32:56because he usually
32:58meets his friends
32:59on the corner
32:59so that they could
33:00walk together,
33:01and he was late today.
33:03Do you know
33:03if he met
33:04the other kids?
33:06He said that if
33:08they left without
33:09him, he'd come back,
33:10so when he didn't
33:11come back,
33:12I thought everything
33:12was fine.
33:15Can I get you
33:15something?
33:16A glass of water,
33:17maybe?
33:21Bill, somebody
33:26killed Eddie.
33:28What?
33:36Who are you guys?
33:37The police.
33:38Who are you?
33:39This is my boyfriend,
33:40Bill Walsh.
33:42You live here in this
33:43neighborhood, Bill?
33:44I have a place
33:45over on Bowery.
33:48Somebody killed Eddie?
33:49I found this
33:58on the floor
33:58in your kitchen.
33:59I think it must
34:00have fallen off
34:01a chair.
34:01Can I hang
34:02this up for you?
34:03It's mine.
34:06Left your jacket
34:07here, huh?
34:08Yeah, I just
34:08went out for groceries.
34:09I didn't think
34:09I needed it.
34:11So you were here
34:11this morning, huh, Bill?
34:13Yeah, I just
34:14fed it to eat
34:14breakfast.
34:16Look at this
34:16happening.
34:18Did you see him
34:18on the street?
34:19You know,
34:20maybe you passed
34:20him on the way
34:21to the grocery store?
34:22Nah, nah,
34:23the store's
34:23in the other
34:23direction
34:24from where he walks.
34:26Well,
34:27can we do this
34:28later?
34:28I have to go
34:29and see my mom
34:30at the hospital.
34:31Absolutely.
34:32I'll drive you,
34:33huh?
34:33Uh, maybe you
34:34can come to
34:34the station house
34:35with us,
34:36Mr. Walsh.
34:38Me?
34:39Yeah,
34:39it'll be a really
34:40big help.
34:41You know,
34:41a case like this,
34:42there's so little
34:43to go on.
34:44Anything that you
34:44can give us
34:45would be significant.
34:45You're not a stable
34:46idea.
34:46Stuff you might
34:48forget in a couple
34:49hours could make
34:50the difference.
34:51It's okay.
34:52Go with them.
34:55Hey, you don't
34:56want to forget
34:57your jacket.
34:58James,
35:17Miss McCleary's here.
35:19I'll do it.
35:20I'm not asking you
35:21to do it.
35:22It'll be better
35:22coming from me.
35:23Farrell,
35:27thanks for coming
35:28back in.
35:29Sure.
35:32Hi.
35:37Did you arrest him?
35:38We brought Mr. Drennan
35:40in and questioned him.
35:41His story,
35:42you both were engaging
35:43in sexual behavior
35:45in the bar
35:46and on the street
35:46before you invited
35:47him up.
35:49We were making out.
35:50I told you that.
35:51His feeling is
35:52you definitely
35:53indicated you
35:54wanted to have
35:54sex.
35:55The bartender
35:56supported Mr. Drennan's
35:58version of events.
35:59What do you mean
36:00the bartender
36:01supported it?
36:02The bartender
36:03wasn't there.
36:04In addition,
36:06Mr. Drennan
36:06told us that
36:07you had told him
36:09you got those
36:10bruises working
36:11out at your gym.
36:12So we spoke
36:13to your instructor,
36:14Gail Keller.
36:15She wouldn't confirm
36:16or deny that story.
36:18Then she admitted
36:18she spoke to you
36:19before we asked
36:20her to come in.
36:22So?
36:24Did you ask her
36:26not to lie exactly
36:27but just not to tell us
36:28that you did hurt
36:29yourself working out?
36:31She said you work out
36:32on uneven parallel bars.
36:35Would that be how
36:36you got those bruises?
36:37She heard my question.
36:39He raped me.
36:41Farrell,
36:41we're just trying
36:42to get you
36:43to understand
36:44the difficulties
36:45of making an arrest
36:46under these circumstances.
36:48What kind of world
36:50is this?
36:51You invite a man
36:52into your apartment,
36:53everyone assumes
36:54it must be for sex?
36:56I didn't want sex.
36:58I wanted a relationship.
37:01Are you saying
37:02I should drop the charges?
37:04We're trying
37:05to let you know
37:06there's a pretty
37:08big downside.
37:10The likelihood
37:11of the D.A. filing.
37:12Oh.
37:15So now I know
37:16the downside.
37:28I'll think about
37:30dropping the charges.
37:31You know, man,
37:39it's the corner
37:39of 96th and 2nd.
37:41832.
37:41The number's
37:42832-96th Street.
37:45Tim.
37:46So you got
37:47the tape
37:47and the jacket.
37:49That's not enough
37:50to hold him
37:50if he gets nervous.
37:51We're going
37:51to get a Polaroid.
37:52See if I'm
37:53complaining in the hospital
37:54can ID him.
37:55What are the chances
37:56on that?
37:57Crapshoot.
37:58She's got a skull fracture,
37:59a concussion.
38:00She could barely
38:01talk the last
38:01time I saw her.
38:03We got to try it.
38:04We got to get
38:04something to go
38:05at this guy with.
38:08Keep him occupied
38:09till we get
38:10back from the hospital.
38:12Yeah.
38:20How long
38:21is this going
38:21to take?
38:22I'm really
38:22worried about Lydia.
38:23But it's hard
38:24to send me
38:24to the Walsh.
38:27What was that for?
38:29Oh, the boss.
38:30See, he makes
38:31us do this
38:31every time
38:32we talk to somebody.
38:33You know,
38:33interview situations.
38:34Everybody's always
38:35screaming about
38:35police brutality.
38:37It doesn't make
38:37any sense.
38:39It's the way
38:39of the world.
38:41Come here.
38:41work.
38:54What's the fuck?
38:55What's the light?
39:00Those other
39:01cops back yet?
39:04Sit down.
39:06Connected
39:06and wait for them.
39:07I just had to make a phone call.
39:10Because I'm tired of sitting here.
39:12Whatever information you need, ask me and I'm going to go.
39:14Yeah, we're going to get started now.
39:17So what do you want to know?
39:18I fed Eddie breakfast and I went out for groceries.
39:20Just if you could give me some background,
39:23your length of relationship with his sister and so forth.
39:26Two and a half years. What's that got to do with anything?
39:28Who were you seeing before?
39:30I was playing the field.
39:32What the hell's that got to do with press eggs?
39:35This was in New York?
39:36Yeah.
39:37When did you live in California?
39:41I lived in Warlock Creek, south side of Oakland.
39:44Yeah. How long ago?
39:46Oh, like four years.
39:47And you took a collar there, exposing yourself to a minor child?
39:54That was a complete false accusation.
39:58I ran you with my good friends at the FBI, Bill.
40:04You're clean with us, but you were wrong with them.
40:06That instant was a kid with a sick mind.
40:09Except before or after you were done with her.
40:11That's it.
40:12I'm out of here.
40:14Yeah, you got a good case, Bill.
40:18Want to try and get past me?
40:21You're going to hit me?
40:22How about that horror they took with me?
40:29Bill, I'll beat you till you'll never walk right again.
40:33And you won't have a bruise in your body.
40:37Help!
40:37Somebody help me in here!
40:40Shh, Billy.
40:41Hey, shh.
40:43Nobody can hear you.
40:46See, uh, cops got special feelings for child killers.
40:50You know, the other fellas in the station house, they thought I should spend some time with you alone.
41:03What are you crying for, you little turd, huh?
41:07Have I laid a hand on you?
41:08Just leave me the hell alone.
41:11Are you scared?
41:12Huh?
41:13Yeah, all right.
41:14All right.
41:14Does that make you feel like a big man?
41:17Do you think those kids were scared, huh?
41:20Do you feel like a big man with those kids?
41:24Raping, murdering them, and throwing them off the roof?
41:27No.
41:28No.
41:28I didn't hurt anybody.
41:30The first girl that we know about you hurting, she's alive, okay, Bill?
41:36Hmm?
41:37She hit a clothesline going down, and she's alive.
41:41And she said that she can identify who tried to kill her.
41:45Well, she says it was me as a setup.
41:46So we got her picking you out, plus we know that you were with that boy this morning.
41:51No.
41:52And this is before your DNA goes under the microscope from the semen you left on that poor girl you threw off yesterday.
41:59Wait a minute, wait a minute.
42:00I don't give permission for any DNA test.
42:02Bill, does that mean that instead of you letting your blood get drawn,
42:07I don't have to beat enough out of you to spoon it up from the floor, huh?
42:11I can piss myself off.
42:16You hold it!
42:17You hold it!
42:18All right, you listen to me now.
42:38You dialed 911 on that first girl.
42:41We got you on tape.
42:42Now, that shows remorse, and you fighting what's going on inside of you.
42:48Now, that's what you got to work on now.
42:52I'm looking for that decent part in you to come out and explain how you wound up doing this.
43:01You got four years since your previous offense.
43:04You were living with an adult woman.
43:07And that's someone looking to control himself.
43:12The child had an accident.
43:15She fell off the roof, and I tried to save her.
43:19I called for an ambulance.
43:20This is the first girl?
43:21Yes.
43:22That was the first incident since Walnut Creek.
43:26And what were you doing on the roof with her?
43:28We were up there talking.
43:30Don't tell me you were up there talking or you're going to get hit.
43:33There was some minor sexual contact, but then she got afraid, and she ran, and she fell.
43:45I was sick it had happened.
43:48I was living with an adult woman.
43:51I was working my program.
43:52And an accident happened, and she fell.
43:59You had raped her, but you didn't try to kill her.
44:04I figured the hell with it.
44:06That's why I did the other one.
44:08And this would be Miriam?
44:11I mean, I figured the hell with it.
44:12No one's going to believe me anyway that the first one was accidental.
44:16I figured I'd do another one.
44:17To hold my program.
44:23Then what about Eddie?
44:25There was no sexual component with Eddie.
44:29He just knew.
44:32I could tell.
44:36When I gave him his cereal, he looked at me.
44:43And he knew.
44:47Excuse me.
44:53Yes?
44:54Some detectives are working a rape case, a male and a female.
44:58Could I have talked to them?
45:01Detective Russell, does someone hear about that rape complaint?
45:10I'm Detective Russell.
45:12You were down at the TikTok grill this morning asking about some guy.
45:15Was his name Mark Drennan?
45:20Come on in.
45:24Want to have a seat here?
45:31What's your name?
45:33Ellen Lippert.
45:34I'm a bartender down there.
45:36And you know this Mark Drennan?
45:39Did he rape that girl?
45:41Why are you here?
45:43Because he raped me, too.
45:45Have a seat, Ellen.
45:56When we talked to this other bartender, he said he never saw this Drennan before.
46:01We work opposite shifts.
46:08Drennan came in about a month ago, sits at the bar, starts flirting with me, having problems
46:13with his wife.
46:13He seemed decent.
46:16I let him stay late, help me clean up the bar.
46:19Then when everyone's gone, he won't take no for an answer.
46:23He thought he was some big Romeo.
46:24He actually kissed me goodnight when he was through.
46:30I swear, the way this jerk is acting, he's got no idea what he did.
46:34Did you tell anybody about this at the time?
46:38I told my sister.
46:39She said I should report it.
46:41But you know, I just felt like this wouldn't have happened if I hadn't been so stupid.
46:45Would you be willing to press charges now?
46:50That's why I'm here.
46:51Stop taking those reward calls, a little boy.
47:05This guy gave it up.
47:07Thanks.
47:08We got him.
47:10He confessed, that guy Walsh?
47:12All three kids.
47:14That's great, Andy.
47:16What's up?
47:18Andy got that guy Walsh to give it up.
47:20Do you want to head and talk to him?
47:23He was getting hanky.
47:24Did your victim pick him up?
47:26Yeah, she did.
47:29So that's great.
47:35What would you have done if this guy would have hollered lawyer while you leaned on him
47:39before you had a photo ID to go with?
47:41I'm hard of hearing.
47:45Anyways, now we got the statement and the ID.
47:48Yeah.
47:49Congratulations.
47:50Hi.
47:55Detective Martinez called.
47:57Wait here.
47:59Yeah, Mr. Jalen.
48:00Thanks for coming back, yeah?
48:02Sure.
48:02No problem.
48:03Take a walk over here.
48:04It was great to see you, Bobby.
48:22Likewise.
48:22When I heard about your wife, I wanted to call.
48:29I didn't know what to say.
48:33Yeah, well.
48:34You want to go to dinner sometime?
48:38I'm seeing somebody, my team.
48:41Ah.
48:42Ah.
48:43Missed my chance.
48:45I got to talk to your partner.
48:53Yeah, okay.
48:55I'll see you later.
48:57I feel pretty good about getting your statement.
49:08Say your piece, Escobar.
49:10I got to meet my kid.
49:12You're a dinosaur, Sipowicz.
49:14I'm a dinosaur.
49:15You jeopardized that collar because it sticks in your throat on first grade.
49:20It sticks in my throat how you got it.
49:23Every white guy in the department with second grade thinks he should have gotten my grade
49:27promotion.
49:28Half of you guys think I got it on my back.
49:30It doesn't occur to any one of you that I got it because I am good at what I do.
49:35So you earned it?
49:37That's right.
49:38I got twice your time on a job.
49:40I'm a hell of a detective and I paid my dues.
49:43I earned it.
49:45Life is rough, huh, Sipowicz?
49:46Yes, but once a white guy didn't get something he deserved.
49:50You know, that never happens to Latinos and that never happens to women.
50:13We need to take a look at these.
50:16I'm not sure.
50:17Not right now.
50:22This, uh, Marilyn guy still says he's innocent, huh?
50:26Those women were looking to have sex.
50:28That's all he knows.
50:30Plus he's having problems with his wife.
50:32This is a big relevant point with this jerk.
50:35Unbelievable.
50:37We were pretty lucky the second woman came along.
50:39This guy is pretty convincing.
50:41I mean, I was convinced.
50:45Diane was always pretty skeptical.
50:47How about that second woman showing up?
50:50Just great.
50:51Yeah.
50:52Not to say it's only rape if the guy does it twice.
50:56Uh, no.
50:57No, it's...
50:58It's just hard.
51:00You know, our case is confusing, uh, objectively to, to, to evaluate the facts.
51:06Yeah.
51:06I'll see you tomorrow.
51:08I mean, hard for everybody, men and women.
51:11Oh, sure.
51:15Anyways.
51:15Lieutenant, just want to let you know if you need somebody to stay late and answer the phones, I'm available esta noche.
51:24Oh, no.
51:25We took care of that case already, John.
51:28Oh, that's great.
51:30So, um, good night.
51:34Good night, Lou.
51:35Good night, Lou.
51:36Good night.
51:36Good night.
51:38Oh.
51:38Good night.
51:39Good night.
51:40Good night.
51:41Good night.
51:41Good night.
51:45I just got called a prehistoric creature today, so maybe you got to take what I say with a grain of salt.
52:10I want to learn from you, Pop.
52:12But I, I, I feel lucky to be out here.
52:17See those three guys across the street from us on the corner?
52:21The black guys?
52:22Those three are bad guys.
52:24The guys decide in a heartbeat whether the mugger hurt somebody, huh?
52:28Here you go, fellas.
52:29You see the people walking around them?
52:31Yeah.
52:33Those are black working people.
52:35Now, hey, I'm not talking about color here.
52:38I'm saying them three are bad, and right now they own that corner.
52:43A good cop's going to take that corner back so the people walking by them don't have to fear for their life.
52:51How do I do that?
52:54You say, look, we need to have this corner clear.
52:59So I'm going to ask you, like gentlemen, to move on.
53:03I come back in 15 minutes.
53:06I don't want to see you here, all right?
53:09And then you leave.
53:10You give them an out.
53:12Okay.
53:16Now, you come back in 15 minutes and they're still there.
53:19What do you do now?
53:20I'm moving, my guy.
53:27You go up to the biggest guy in the bunch or the guy with the biggest mouth, and you say,
53:32you don't get off this corner, I'm going to lock you up.
53:35And if he doesn't move, then you put your hands on him.
53:39If he puts his hands back up at you, you don't fool him out.
53:44You find out right away how good you are with a nightstick and how tough they really are.
53:51Because as a cop, you can't afford to lose a fight.
53:53You lose a fight, you lose your life.
53:56Okay, yeah.
54:00Okay.
54:06You want to go take these guys with me?
54:10Really?
54:10Nah.
54:15I don't want to spend the next six hours doing paperwork.
54:19I'll call a radio car.
54:23I really appreciate you taking the time like this, Pop.
54:28This is a good job for people like us.
54:31We don't have a lot of education, but we can read and write.
54:35I'm more honest.
54:37Don't ever embarrass this job.
54:39I won't.
54:41I know you won't.
54:43I don't have a lot of education.