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00:00 This is the Winning Plays podcast on the CLNS Media Network, the leading online provider
00:05 for the NBA's winningest franchise.
00:07 Winning Plays podcast is back and Chris Forsberg, we have a deal.
00:11 Jalen Brown, Boston Celtics, $304 million.
00:18 This is Tuesday, July 25th.
00:20 So it took them about three and a half weeks to get this done.
00:23 - That's what I expected.
00:24 - Which is what I expected.
00:25 - No.
00:26 - And yeah, what's the initial impressions here?
00:28 - Yeah, fist bumping because now Celtics writers can all kind of go ease into vacation in August.
00:34 That's like selfishly we're excited because we didn't want this to linger too long.
00:37 - That was number one takeaway actually, I think from your column, right?
00:40 - Yeah, right.
00:41 That was actually number one and we'll see if anyone notices.
00:44 My big thing is, well, I would say twofold.
00:47 One, I think we all knew this was going to get done, but certainly when you got to 25
00:51 days into July, I started thinking, man, are they going to play clips of me saying, don't
00:55 worry, don't worry, don't worry.
00:57 And then it blows up or something like that.
00:59 It is a little weird that it took this long to just kind of iron out what feels like some
01:04 of the just edges of this deal and trade bonuses and fifth year options.
01:11 And ultimately it came down probably how I thought it would.
01:13 If the Celtics want to give a full 35%, then they probably didn't want to give that fifth
01:17 year option and Jalen wanted some extra bit of security.
01:21 And so even though it's limited what the trade kicker can add, I'd suppose that's a little
01:26 something.
01:27 And I guess the biggest thing now is that there's just everybody has security now, right?
01:33 Like Porzingis got his deal after signing, after being traded here, Jason knows he's
01:37 getting his, it doesn't matter about all MBA or any of that stuff.
01:41 And Jalen's in the house now and with the potential to be here until 2029.
01:45 So after a year of sort of calamity and years and years for Jalen of trade rumors, it feels
01:51 like next season could be the first time where not a lot of like rumors or wondering about
01:58 futures.
01:59 I mean, that's all going to come up at some point when these deals start kicking in.
02:02 Don't talk to Michael Brockton.
02:04 Yeah, well, one player should not be getting too far ahead of himself.
02:08 But yeah, like I just think they're set up really well now that you don't know who she
02:13 is.
02:14 Everybody's locked up.
02:15 Joe's got a year under his belt.
02:16 It's time to try to get back to that title stage.
02:19 There shouldn't be a whole lot of distractions.
02:20 Yeah, he's a good point for you.
02:23 Like the security standpoint is first for like the stuff down the line is the stuff
02:28 down the line.
02:29 But Brad Steven, since he's gotten here, he's liked to operate where he gives these guys
02:33 the security.
02:34 He's a big extension guy from pretty much day one.
02:37 And now Richard Singh got one.
02:39 I mean, that was, that was when I first said, oh, Brad really likes extension.
02:43 So although it would've been nice if Josh Richardson had come back here, that would've
02:46 made our offseason a little bit easier to put together.
02:49 So yeah, just like you said, security is a good thing.
02:53 Exactly.
02:54 So now this contract, it's estimated to be at 300 formula.
02:58 We actually, no one really knows how much it's going to be.
03:00 We're off until we see what the cap looks like.
03:02 But that is the updated estimate right now.
03:07 And yeah, I mean, it's a situation where that's going to kick in 24, 25.
03:14 He's still only going to make $30.7 million a year.
03:17 Really doesn't have any impact on what they can do in the present.
03:20 But now you have essentially the entire roster is under contract right now.
03:26 Or at least the guys that matter for two years left.
03:28 The only guy, the only guy left, and this could change, Peyton Pritchard is the only
03:32 guy entering a contract season this year.
03:34 But we all know, I mean, they have until whatever it is, October 31st, whatever, to figure that
03:40 one out.
03:41 A big stint at the US Select team coming up.
03:44 Seriously, we'll see what the, I bet they'll be watching that tape.
03:48 He'll be playing more minutes there than he did all last season, but that's neither here
03:51 nor there.
03:52 But yeah, I mean, Jalen, it's going to be fascinating to see how he kind of responds
03:56 to this now, because he, to your point, the trade rumor, like this is, he's never really
04:00 gotten a break from it.
04:01 Even like, yeah, like coming off the NBA finals, didn't even get a break from it last summer
04:04 to start it from here.
04:05 But now they literally can't trade him for a year.
04:08 I think it's safe to say, barring disaster, he's certainly safe for the next two years.
04:13 Things are going to be interesting then, but like, how does he adjust to it?
04:19 Like, does becoming a $300 million player change him, or is this something for better
04:24 or worse?
04:25 I'm fascinated to see how that looks.
04:27 Yeah, you know, I kind of ended my column with this.
04:30 Most players I would be worried about, I always worry when players get paid out because it
04:35 sometimes saps some of the motivation.
04:37 But if there's one guy I'm probably not worried about, it's Jalen, who will just, whether
04:42 it's because of the rumors, whether it's because of the way everyone nitpicks his game, has
04:46 just always been motivated to come back a little bit better.
04:50 And so even after signing the largest contract in NBA history, you know, my mentions, as
04:56 I'm sure yours were too, was, oh, he can't dribble with his left hand, eight turnovers
05:00 in game seven.
05:01 Like people are, people are still writing him about the holes in his game.
05:05 And I'm not here to tell you, like, he's a perfect player.
05:07 I keep saying this, like, none of these superstars are.
05:11 And everyone has a little bit of a flaw.
05:14 And maybe Jalen is a little bit more present because of his ball handling.
05:17 But I think he's going to be super motivated after game seven last year to come back and
05:22 be better.
05:23 And I don't think $304 million is going to change that.
05:26 And so I think he usually has the right perspective.
05:29 I think he's, I'm sure he'll be appreciative of what he's got here.
05:34 But ultimately, you know, no one puts a, you know, you don't put, get your number in the
05:39 rafters because of $304 million.
05:41 So if you want to be up there and if you want to be, if you want your, to really have a
05:44 Boston legacy, you got to put a banner up there.
05:48 And then the conversation changes about, you know, how we view players.
05:51 And so that's Jalen's challenge.
05:53 And I think he'll, I think he'll still be motivated to try to prove that.
05:56 And plus there's just, like you said, it's going to be a one year reprieve from rumors.
06:00 And then this stuff's going to start right back up even next year.
06:02 Cause I kept wondering, I was like, wow, I wonder if he's waiting to sign this deal because
06:05 it's one year from the date you sign.
06:07 And so if he doesn't sign it until say tomorrow, July 26th, now he can't be in the rumors technically
06:12 until July 26th next year.
06:14 Now they could just work out a trade on July 1 and just not trigger it until August.
06:19 So it's really just one year, one season worth of time.
06:23 But it's coming back, you know, cause the Celtics have tough decisions.
06:25 And that's the other layer to all this is there's no way to really put this puzzle together
06:30 with Jason Jalen and Porzingis long-term, at least without completely stripping your
06:35 supporting cast.
06:36 And so-
06:37 Or selling a team to a super duper billionaire.
06:40 Or being willing.
06:41 And hey, maybe so much of it, I think depends on what happens this year.
06:45 Like you win a title, now you're in part, you're, you're, you can go either way, right?
06:50 Like you downshift cause like you've won one or you could be like, we could be a dynasty.
06:54 Let's like lean into this and just pay a billion dollars for, for a year or two.
06:58 But yeah, it's gonna be fascinating to see how it, how it all plays out.
07:01 It's two super, having two super max players is a luxury, but not one that you can, can
07:08 sustain super long-term without being really, really creative or really hoping that cap
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08:00 If anything else, like you said, like that is going to like, it's no secret, like what
08:04 is coming down the pike there.
08:06 And they have a pretty finite window here of what looks like two years, like maybe a
08:11 little longer than that.
08:12 I don't know if things like line up well, but certainly with these pieces in place and
08:17 I don't know, for like--
08:19 Does that change how you'd approach this year?
08:22 One thing I've been wrestling with is it sure seems like they want to avoid that second
08:26 apron and understandably so because of the, especially with repeater penalties and all
08:30 that.
08:31 But if you're going to lean into a year, this is sort of the one.
08:35 You got to go for it.
08:36 You got to go for it more.
08:37 I mean, you look at it last year too, and it's like, you don't trade Gallinari at the
08:42 deadline and then what, you hold on for, I guess like it helped you for the salary matching
08:47 for this deal.
08:48 But it's like--
08:49 You would add other ways.
08:50 You would add other, exactly.
08:51 It's like, so now it's like, OK, this is like, the window is shrinking from in terms of what
08:58 you can have, the kind of luxuries they've built here.
09:01 And they've, and like we've gone about at length here in the last month, like this isn't
09:07 their fault that it's come to this now.
09:08 But if anything, this is like changes from perspective.
09:10 So it's like, I think what we realize now as we stare down the pike at this and having,
09:16 you know, pretty much a fairly predictable off season to this point is you have one real
09:23 swing left with like your trade options now.
09:27 And you have a low TPE, like you've kind of stockpiled these draft picks.
09:33 That's great.
09:34 But like saving them for like next summer, it's like, well, that's less great because
09:38 then that's like, you know, the pressure is even on even closer there.
09:43 So it's now it's like, OK, that deal might not be present this summer, but, you know,
09:49 December, February, like next season, it's like they're waiting here.
09:53 And I think if they're not using those tools, whether it's the picks, the TPE, or the salary
10:00 you want to move on this on this team right now, like I think that's a huge loss opportunity.
10:05 And I think honestly, that'd be a failure of this era and kind of like the story of
10:08 this era if they like, you know, don't really push in on a year and then not coming back
10:14 to bite them.
10:15 That's interesting.
10:16 And I guess that that's why, you know, as much as it be easy to get complacent when everyone's
10:20 under contract and locked up and all that, like there is there is just an urgency generally
10:25 about, you know, you're not going to have this luxury of a great roster.
10:28 And I do hope they lean into that.
10:30 But now I don't know what their what their options are right in this very moment.
10:33 You know, you hear the report and of not wanting to trade broadening right now.
10:38 And some of that might just be trying to smooth things over because you are trying to deal
10:42 them once.
10:43 But also, I don't think his trade value is particularly high right now.
10:46 And but like it could be a beneficial contract.
10:48 So if you had twenty two million dollar contract and all those picks to go all in, you know,
10:52 maybe something more materializes down the road, especially into the season when maybe
10:55 teams start to fade a little bit or, you know, a team has an injury, whatever the case may
10:59 be.
11:00 So I do think they have to stay alert to that because it feels like they got to make that
11:04 move before next summer.
11:06 Right.
11:07 Like, I guess you could still push up.
11:08 You can move broad in next summer and still kind of bring back somebody of value.
11:12 But it could not be the level of even a port is English, right?
11:15 Like it's probably more of a twenty million dollar player, which, you know, in the world
11:19 is waiting at that point or Tom Tom for.
11:22 Yeah.
11:23 I think that's part of the problem is just that you're a little bit more, you know, more
11:27 handcuffed on how you can how you can proceed.
11:29 So, yeah, maybe it has to be trade deadline this year or whatever, but they need to be
11:32 a little bit more aggressive in that instance.
11:35 And maybe that's when you're willing to go over.
11:37 Like I keep saying, you know, as much as you can look at the roster on paper and say, oh,
11:40 they're definitive title title contender.
11:42 You know, sometimes you got to get into the season and see it and feel good about it and
11:46 see how the ebbs and flows and, you know, how everybody else looks.
11:50 But, you know, if there's a deal there to be made, they really got to kind of kind of
11:54 go for it.
11:55 And like you said, they got the picks.
11:56 It's wild that they can they can they're in the position here to trade for presenius and
12:02 extend them in supermax.
12:03 There are two superstars and yet they still have a swing of the bat left.
12:06 It's just it's an embarrassment of riches, but one that they must maximize long term
12:11 to to make it worthwhile to have splurged this money on Jalen.
12:15 And I guess now you do have like two, because that six million RTP that gives you a mini
12:21 swing.
12:22 So I guess you get like one, you get a swing swing.
12:23 I mean, you're not getting much in that, but at least you at least don't have to do it
12:27 like you have more options than the sons, I see at this point, like being able to actually
12:32 add play.
12:33 Like there's not going to be many players that fit into that.
12:35 Well, but there are, you know, for you package enough picks like you're going to be able
12:40 to get someone who might be semi useful for that, at least for like that's on the veterans
12:44 minimum contact or a or a mini mid level there.
12:46 But yeah, it is.
12:47 You're right.
12:48 It is like you're you're really loading up here.
12:51 You said goodbye to Grant.
12:52 And I don't know, like we haven't talked for a month here.
12:54 Like what's where you at for just the state of the roster right now?
12:58 Like where like especially with this band deal looking like it's pretty much a training
13:02 camp deal.
13:03 Like there is no very few strings attached there.
13:06 So you have you only have 11 guaranteed roster spots right now.
13:10 Like you really have a lot of flexibility right now.
13:13 The trade market in general is stalled with Lillard and Harden still hanging out there
13:17 for the time being.
13:18 So that's not to say they can, you know, kind of hop back in this summer with if if things
13:23 change on either of those fronts and kind of loosen things up around the league.
13:27 But where are you at in terms of where they're at right now?
13:30 Yeah, I think they just got to got to stay alert, right?
13:32 Like there's going to be maybe when those deals all start materializing, you can either
13:36 hop in as a third team or maybe it forces some other teams to reconfigure and reevaluate
13:42 personnel.
13:44 Part of me is content because I don't we've now run into probably two years where they've
13:48 been a little overstocked 2019 and even last season.
13:53 In you know, it's almost better to have too much top end talent, but not have so much
13:58 talent that is spread out across the board that you know, you're you're conflicted on
14:02 who you're playing.
14:03 Like it should just be obvious who your seven guys are.
14:06 And for whatever reason, you know, Grant wasn't part of that mix last year.
14:10 And so, you know, as much as personally, I'll miss Grant.
14:13 I think he could have been a really valuable player for this team if he had played to,
14:17 you know, what what what we saw and done that consistently.
14:20 But if Joe Mazzola is not going to play him, then you just can't pay the money and you're
14:24 just going to turn that into assets.
14:25 And so I just always thought the route was going to be getting two second round picks
14:31 and you know, you hope you add that to your your your pile of assets and that you materialize
14:36 it into something that you're more willing to play down the road.
14:40 And but I do think they're going to miss Grant's defense.
14:42 They're going to miss Grant and smarts, tenacity and grit and all that.
14:47 You know, there's question marks about how this is all going to look and how it's all
14:52 going to play out.
14:53 And yet, undeniably, they're more top end talent.
14:57 There's more security.
14:58 I just I do feel like if everything falls right, like they they are in a and probably
15:03 they're probably in a better spot to be a championship contender.
15:06 But there's just question marks like stuff that I need that I need to see.
15:12 Is the loss of smart and grant more jarring defensively and in intangibles than we think?
15:17 You know, we can't answer those questions right now.
15:19 Is is Porzingis healthy and good enough where it doesn't matter like that?
15:24 They're just so dominant offensively now that it doesn't matter that you took a slight step
15:28 back defensively, like is a healthy Rob just like a complete game changer?
15:32 And do you have enough in this 11 to get by?
15:36 It's just a lot of a lot left to be answered, like chief among them, Brandon Tell and like
15:41 how that looks and how that affects the point guard spot.
15:44 And, you know, does that mean more time for Pritchard at the start of the year?
15:47 And what does that mean?
15:48 So, yeah, just I guess I'm I'm eager to see if they if there's any further tweaking.
15:54 But like if ultimately they decide to just kind of tread into next year or, you know,
16:00 lock this roster into next year and kind of be looking to make other moves, I don't think
16:04 it's the end of the world.
16:05 No, it's fair.
16:06 Yeah, no, I think that's it's fair.
16:09 Like you can starting if everyone comes in, if this is a healthy team going into next
16:14 year, like that's OK.
16:15 Like you see what you have and then you make those adjustments.
16:18 Brad Stevens in general has been a big like to make the big move before the season.
16:23 And I mean, he did obviously with this Porzingis trade and, you know, while adding the tools
16:29 to make a move in the middle of the season.
16:31 But now I would expect like another move, you know, probably maybe to come closer to
16:36 like December than February if they wait until next year, because that's again, when you're
16:42 you're trying to put all the pieces together.
16:44 But it is your idea of like.
16:48 Life is a lot simpler for Joe Mazzola entering next season.
16:51 Now, like there is like that's a playbook is that he obviously has much more time to
16:55 plan.
16:57 And as far as second guessing who will be playing late in games, there'll be less opportunity
17:00 for me and you to do that since the choices.
17:02 I mean, I think I don't know.
17:03 I mean, there will be we'll see about the big situation.
17:06 We'll see if they close one big versus two bigs and who's on the floor there.
17:09 So I might just ask this on the last part, but I'll throw it to you, because it is a
17:12 great conversation and like it might be what we do for the next like three months.
17:16 Who's the fifth guy closing?
17:19 I want to see because I'll see if you line with what I mean.
17:22 The obvious choice is like, well, I accuse.
17:26 So we're assuming that Jason Jalen, Derek and Porzingis.
17:32 OK, so I think more often than not, it will be as composed as Brogdon.
17:39 And right.
17:40 Which is right until he gets traded in December.
17:43 I don't think that's the right choice.
17:45 I think that's the default choice, much like it was for the last being last season.
17:49 But who knows, maybe it's a situation where.
17:53 If Porzingis and Al and we're Porzingis and Rob show the chemistry where it's like you
17:58 much like, Joe, you have to do like we hear our numbers of these guys on the floor, you
18:03 have to like, you know, we can withstand them getting picked on on what we're going to be
18:08 overpowering in this other part of the game.
18:10 I know that that's that's like that might be the biggest question of the whole.
18:13 Right.
18:14 Like, but I can't do another like why isn't Derek White playing in crunch time?
18:18 If Al's numbers are good with that group and he's not playing, I'm just I'm just going
18:21 to lose my mind.
18:22 I said, Alex, I just thought like defensive wise and veteran presence and all that.
18:27 And but we got to see how he works for Porzingis.
18:28 And can you get away with Porzingis and Al and Jason?
18:32 And I know, you know, Derek is your primary ball handler.
18:35 And I mean, there's a lot of questions to be asked.
18:37 And again, that's that's the but I feel like those are great questions to have versus,
18:42 you know, who is who are you know, whether you're whether the seventh guy can contribute
18:47 like, OK, you have enough talent where like figure out which guys you're going to lean
18:51 on and you know, that's that's not the worst thing to have.
18:55 It's the pressure on Joe to me.
18:57 You know, he's got he's got to show he can diversify a little bit in terms of the playbook
19:01 and, you know, have more options for this team unless he's going to lean headlong into
19:06 three point Arama.
19:07 And we'll see.
19:08 Yeah, we'll say like he's definitely got his own.
19:11 He's beefed up the coaching staff, guys that can can sort of probably push him in directions
19:16 and make him, you know, go towards some stuff that maybe wasn't as comfortable to go to
19:19 last year.
19:20 I'm intrigued to see how it all how it all comes together.
19:24 You bring Blake back.
19:26 So I just told you, I said when when Blake signs in September, like so Blake probably
19:30 wants to wait till after training camp to sign.
19:33 Is that what you would think?
19:34 I think he probably wants my guess is he wants a guaranteed contract.
19:38 And those are probably not likely to be available until they other options are exhausted slash.
19:44 I just assume veterans don't want to go through running sprint.
19:47 Yeah, I think what do you say?
19:49 They're like five days in.
19:50 That was a pretty.
19:51 Yeah.
19:52 Last year.
19:53 Like all you need is a couple of days, a couple of preseason games.
19:54 Off you go.
19:55 The reuniting of the bus one boys right before the start of training camp would be over right
19:59 out right before the start of the regular season would be a nice little jolt.
20:02 The only downside would be is if you missed out on Newport.
20:04 If if I can continue to try to convince somebody.
20:07 What's the latest on that?
20:08 Are there any?
20:09 No, no advancement has been made.
20:10 I do not suspect I have enough pull within the organization to.
20:13 But I know the coach should lobby hard being a Rhode Island guy.
20:17 And so if by chance he stumbles upon any of our any of the nine podcasts that I continue
20:22 to scream this from, hopefully, hopefully encourages the team.
20:25 I mean, I tell Brad every time I see him and he thinks I'm a lunatic because I keep bringing
20:29 it up.
20:30 But you know, I just really like really like Newport.
20:33 Things haven't gone well after the hour back center training camp.
20:36 It seems like it really you know what?
20:37 I was really excited for the hour back center and I do not miss Waltham one bit.
20:42 Maybe you do, because it would have been.
20:43 Yeah, it's going to be a worry.
20:45 But yeah, the only downside has been it really is really has hurt the the allure of going
20:51 away.
20:52 They really love having their own medical stuff in there.
20:54 And the casual fans should know a lot of teams go to fun places for training camp.
21:00 I think the Lakers go to Hawaii or Clippers go to Hawaii.
21:02 And all the reporters want is a little little carrot when you're getting back on that treadmill
21:07 to to help ease the the long, long season that it is.
21:11 And so take us to a beach or somewhere we can see water.
21:16 I guess you can see water in Boston, but not the water I want to see.
21:19 So just consider it Celtics.
21:20 I'm saying.
21:21 All right, let's wrap on this.
21:24 Given how this went for the last three or four weeks, who do you think was their winner
21:28 in these negotiations?
21:30 I think the Celtics win because I don't know, maybe people think that's like state news,
21:35 but like I just getting the not having the fifth year player option as part of this deal
21:40 feels like a win.
21:41 It just it just doesn't happen anymore.
21:42 Right.
21:43 Like and especially wading into the uncertainty of a new CBA.
21:47 It felt really important that Celtics did that.
21:48 And I just thought they had the strongest case.
21:51 Like if they come to the table like, look, we're giving you 35 percent, you know, and
21:55 we're going to work with you on on other like fully guaranteed, no incentives and all this.
22:00 Then Jalen had to give a little something.
22:02 And so that fifth year it could it.
22:05 And I don't know, you know, does it matter?
22:08 Like it maybe, you know, it prevents Jason from Jalen from getting back to the table
22:13 a little bit earlier in case he does outkick this contract, which is certainly possible
22:18 and depends on like, you know, his trajectory and all that, especially given that he'll
22:22 still be what, 31 at.
22:24 So he's 26 now, 27.
22:25 I know he'll be 32.
22:28 So it will be his last chance at a big at a bigger deal or whatever.
22:32 And yeah, it's just it's just all like whenever you're negotiating these things, everybody
22:36 wants a little bit.
22:38 And I honestly think I'd be interested to hear like exactly how they all phrase it.
22:41 But from the outside, it just certainly felt like they were waiting for kind of each other
22:45 to the blink on these things.
22:46 And then they just got to a point where it's probably like, you know, is it really worth
22:50 just like taking this thing into August to to get to the finish line?
22:55 I don't know if the trade bonus really matters.
22:57 He can only earn up to 35 percent on those things.
22:59 It's a small percentage, a little.
23:01 It would be far down the line for it to matter.
23:03 Right.
23:04 And I honestly like I don't think in most of the time in those situations, players either
23:09 want to get out and are willing to waive it or it's just kind of makes it a little bit
23:14 more difficult for the team like the Celtics to just move him without a situation that
23:18 he doesn't desire.
23:20 And so there is some security in that.
23:22 So each guy gets a little bit of what they want.
23:25 Ultimately, the winners will be the Celtics.
23:29 If if Jay, God, I'm messing up the Jays names completely.
23:33 If Jalen plays to the value of this contract and if we look back in three years and we're
23:39 like, wow, people are sweating 60 million dollar annual value.
23:42 And it turns out, you know, in much the same way that I always go back to the Avery Bradley
23:46 contract and that's a poor comparison because it wasn't like Supermax or anything like that.
23:50 But, you know, we all freak out at first about these deals.
23:54 And if it delivers a championship or if he plays all NBA for multiple seasons, I don't
23:59 think anyone will be whining about this money.
24:01 All right.
24:02 That's Chris Forsberg, NBC Sports, Boston.
24:05 He'll be on your airwaves on TV.
24:07 I'll be on your beach podcast.
24:08 Beach vacation, B-Rod.
24:09 Got places to be.
24:10 Got things to wrap up in the next 24 to 48 hours.
24:15 And then you'll see him in and then I'll have to get on the golf course.
24:20 Not that I haven't been on golf courses, but maybe I can be on more, more, more golf courses
24:23 more often.
24:24 I'll be nice.
24:25 All right.
24:26 Make sure you check him out.
24:27 I thought it was a podcast as well as on the NBC Sports Boston airwaves.
24:30 We'll be back with you next week to respond to Jalen's presser and anything else that
24:37 this team has on the table as they head into the offseason.
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