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00:00 Tell me about Moms for Liberty,
00:02 because they're this group with a very innocuous sounding
00:06 name, like they're gonna be moms, but they're not.
00:11 Like they're really leading the charge against,
00:14 I mean, for book banning and book banning primarily
00:16 of books with LGBTQ content.
00:19 - Yeah, I mean, we saw this back in the day
00:22 around marriage equality as well, which was,
00:26 what was it, a million moms or 1 million moms?
00:31 And I think that this is a small, but well-funded
00:36 and highly organized group that is using fear
00:43 as a lever to ban books.
00:50 And this is some moms for some kids.
00:55 This is not all moms for all kids.
00:58 And I think the distinction is really important
01:00 because their whole premise is parental rights
01:04 and that they should have a voice.
01:06 And it's like, yes, parental rights for some parents,
01:09 but not for all parents, 'cause I don't have rights.
01:11 I'm not considered part of that.
01:13 And the rights are at the expense
01:18 of a marginalized community.
01:20 The rights aren't, where they should be focused
01:24 is on social media companies and holding them accountable
01:28 for what they're doing to our youth.
01:30 Instead, they're focused on targeting trans youth,
01:35 targeting books in schools.
01:37 We've never seen book bans like this in recent history.
01:41 So, they are a dangerous, but small force.
01:49 And I think that we honestly, as an LGBTQ community,
01:54 didn't expect this and got caught off guard on this one.
02:01 So, I think we're organizing and we're gonna come back.
02:06 And I think the biggest indicator for all of this
02:10 is gonna be the election.
02:12 And it's only gonna heat up over the next year around this
02:16 because the anti-LGBTQ rhetoric and organization
02:21 has been bolstering political careers
02:29 and they're gonna continue to try and utilize that
02:32 until we make them lose at the ballot box.
02:35 - What are you doing?
02:36 I agree with you, they're gonna keep it up
02:38 when they think it's working.
02:39 And what I read, this group just started in 2021.
02:44 Like it clearly, some other organizations behind it,
02:47 funding it, training it.
02:49 What are you doing to organize your community
02:53 and allies to show up at the ballot box
02:57 for like every kind of election?
02:59 You gotta go for school boards, you gotta go state,
03:03 federal, like everything.
03:05 - Everything, nothing's off the table.
03:08 So, I will tell you this, that the LGBTQ movement
03:11 has never been more coordinated and in collaboration.
03:15 So we are putting our plans together, but we will be,
03:19 and the LGBTQ community is the second most important
03:25 voting block for the Democratic Party.
03:32 So we have a lot of weight in terms of at the ballot box.
03:40 And then if you add our allies, it's unbeatable.
03:45 So I think there's a few things that we're doing.
03:49 One is we need to get the stories of transgender
03:53 and gender non-conforming folks out there.
03:55 We need America to understand and be educated
03:58 who these people are and that they're not,
04:01 lurking in the corners, that they are just people
04:06 who wanna have a job and family and live their life
04:09 like every other person in this country.
04:11 So we need to do that.
04:13 And that's really about the narrative
04:16 and helping to introduce Americans
04:20 to more transgender folks.
04:22 Secondly, we really need to fight back
04:25 and litigate against these unconstitutional bans
04:30 on LGBTQ people.
04:32 These are human rights issues.
04:35 And then thirdly, we need to organize
04:38 and get the people to the ballot box who are pro-equality
04:42 and get pro-equality candidates in every seat possible
04:47 who understand the value of an education,
04:49 a full education, and not just a white supremacist education
04:54 and who understand what a humanities issue this is.
04:59 So I think those are the three places
05:04 that we're focused as an organization
05:06 and as a movement moving forward.
05:09 - Right.
05:10 Yeah, I think the point you just made about,
05:12 we have to get people to understand
05:13 that our students need a full education,
05:17 not a white supremacist education,
05:19 'cause so much of this seems to be caught up in white,
05:22 whether it's white Christian nationalism
05:24 or white supremacy.
05:25 It's-
05:27 - It's all, it's women's rights, women's bodily autonomy,
05:32 trans bodily autonomy, all of the,
05:36 we have a minority community in America
05:41 that is on the verge of being the majority community
05:47 in America.
05:48 That is all of the minority,
05:50 whether it be Hispanic or Latinx or women or LGBTQ.
05:55 And that, this fight over power right now
06:00 is sort of like the last stand.
06:04 And I do feel that this culture war that we're living in
06:08 is a new civil, is a modern day civil war
06:12 where social media is weaponized,
06:16 but now we're seeing all of the weaponization
06:19 that has taken place on the internet
06:23 really come to life on the street and get quite violent.
06:28 So I think we're silly to think
06:31 that we're not living through a civil war