ICC Cricket World Cup 2023 Special Transmission | 4th October 2023 | Part 2
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Transcript
00:00 Assalam-o-Alaikum, hello and welcome to our special transmission for ICC World Cup 2023.
00:04 The World Cup has started yesterday and our transmission has started today.
00:08 Today, we will talk about favourites, what Pakistan should do,
00:13 how to prepare and all these things.
00:15 I have with me my panel, Yunus Khan, Kamran Akmal, Basit Ali
00:20 and now we have Shoaib Jatt in this slot.
00:23 Assalam-o-Alaikum, welcome to the show.
00:25 Walikum-Salaam.
00:26 First of all, let's start with the 13th edition of the Cricket World Cup.
00:30 This is the 13th edition of the 50-over World Cup.
00:33 10 teams are competing in this for the World Cup
00:36 and for the prize of 10 million dollars.
00:39 The first match will be in Ahmedabad.
00:42 It will be a very exciting match
00:45 when the defending champion England will face New Zealand.
00:48 Yes, it will be a very exciting match.
00:51 These are the best teams of the World Cup.
00:54 The World Cup will start tomorrow.
00:57 Yunus, before the World Cup starts,
01:01 I would like to ask you
01:03 which is your top favourite team at the moment?
01:06 We really want Pakistan to reach the final.
01:10 But we are in a bit of a dilemma right now.
01:13 It's not true that there are too many problems.
01:17 We just have to gather them.
01:19 We know that when the Pakistan team gathers,
01:21 and gets a good win, then it's this team
01:24 which is not visible anywhere and you win the World Cup.
01:27 It happens in the past and I hope it happens this time too.
01:30 There shouldn't be too much destruction.
01:31 I really want Pakistan to reach the finals.
01:35 But if I talk about the other teams,
01:37 England seems to be a team that is fully loaded.
01:40 After that, the Indian team did a good job
01:42 in gathering all their options and came in good shape.
01:48 After that, there is another team that somehow
01:51 got together and is visible on the map.
01:54 That is South Africa.
01:56 If we talk about New Zealand,
01:57 whenever there are big events,
01:59 they play in a combined manner.
02:01 Their fielding, batting, bowling,
02:03 their strategies are visible there.
02:05 If we talk about Australia,
02:08 they have enjoyed winning the World Cup many times.
02:10 I think these are the four or five teams that are in good shape.
02:13 But you know that if you lose a match,
02:16 and you have to play against everyone in this format,
02:20 then you have to think about what will happen in the next match.
02:25 We have seen one thing,
02:26 it is raining all of a sudden in this event.
02:29 I hope it doesn't happen in the future.
02:31 Pakistan is taking the rain with it.
02:33 It is a bit tricky,
02:34 but the four or five teams that are fully loaded,
02:38 our team's preparation...
02:40 Relatively, it is less visible in the end.
02:43 Now we can see that we will try out players.
02:46 I think these are the four or five teams that are in good shape.
02:49 Is the reigning champion favorite, Kamran?
02:51 Do you think England is a favorite for this World Cup?
02:54 England is no doubt.
02:56 Their balance is excellent.
02:57 They play attacking cricket, they play fairly.
03:00 Everyone knows their role.
03:01 They are performing accordingly.
03:03 But whichever team wants to win,
03:05 they have to defeat India first.
03:07 Then they can move forward.
03:09 Then we will know how strong they are
03:11 -till the World Cup final. -Yes.
03:13 -Okay. -I think we will know.
03:14 Because India is in a good condition right now.
03:17 They are a balanced team.
03:18 Bumrah's arrival has strengthened their ball.
03:20 It was a weak area since Bumrah was unfit.
03:23 I think we will have to defeat them.
03:25 Never know, if Pakistan defeats them on the 14th,
03:27 Pakistan will not let anyone get close to them.
03:30 -It will increase their confidence. -Absolutely.
03:31 I pray that Pakistan performs like this.
03:33 I think all the teams should target India first.
03:37 Whoever defeats them,
03:38 they will have more chances.
03:40 Team to beat India.
03:42 Do you agree with this, Bhasit?
03:43 For me, New Zealand and South Africa are more important than India.
03:47 -Really? -If Pakistan defeats these two teams,
03:50 they will easily reach the semi-final.
03:52 -Really? -Easily.
03:53 And this tournament is between six teams for me.
03:56 -The rest of the teams will play. -Of course.
04:00 But these six teams are our rivals.
04:03 Okay. I can understand this point.
04:05 If you lose to the top three teams,
04:07 and you have to win against two teams,
04:08 you will definitely reach the semi-final.
04:10 -So, the fourth... -Bhasit will say that...
04:12 For the fourth position,
04:14 you have to take one step at a time.
04:16 To reach the semi-final,
04:19 you should target India.
04:20 Defeat them as much as you can.
04:22 Shoaib, the question is,
04:24 when we are back against the wall,
04:26 it is said that Pakistan shows its best game.
04:29 We went to the Asia Cup as favorites.
04:31 What was the situation?
04:33 We are not going there as favorites.
04:35 Does that suit us?
04:36 It doesn't matter if we are favorites or not.
04:39 We have to play our traditional cricket.
04:41 It is very unfortunate.
04:42 I was just remembering a press conference of Babar Adam.
04:44 He said, "Before going,
04:47 we don't make the same mistakes as we did in the previous match."
04:49 He said, "We make new mistakes in the new match."
04:51 "We are not making the same mistakes for three years."
04:54 "We are making the same mistakes in the past."
04:57 We have to accept the truth.
04:58 Pakistan is a good team.
05:00 But there are many things that are bad about it.
05:03 I would like to praise Babar Adam for his performance yesterday.
05:06 It is a good thing.
05:07 He scored 54 runs in 11 quarters and 2 sixes.
05:10 He scored 90 runs.
05:12 I won't say that he scored against Labishana.
05:15 He scored against Smith and Wadner.
05:17 I believe he scored against Australia.
05:19 If he scores tomorrow, he has to score in the future as well.
05:22 If he can score 90 runs in a practice match,
05:25 we don't want to see New Zealand, South Africa,
05:30 England, India, Australia.
05:32 We have to show them that we can do it.
05:35 If we can do it, we have to do it in the future as well.
05:37 If he scored against Nepal or Australia,
05:40 we have to do it in the future as well.
05:41 Let me tell you one last thing.
05:42 In 1992, Waqar Yunus was unfit.
05:45 He was the fastest bowler and the match winner.
05:48 You won the World Cup without him.
05:49 You didn't have all the bowlers at that time.
05:51 You had Wasim Akram, Aqib Javid, Imran Khan and Mushtaq Ahmed.
05:55 The fifth bowler was Ijaz Ahmed and Salim Malik.
05:57 Don't make the excuse that our bowling has become weak because of them.
06:01 In 2007, Shane Warne was not there.
06:03 Australia won the World Cup.
06:04 That's right. Obviously, we have all the things.
06:08 Now, we have to back the team.
06:10 We have to go with our options.
06:13 Wasim, would you like to add anything?
06:15 Babar Atam played at number six yesterday.
06:18 If he runs at number 90 in 54 balls,
06:20 will he play at number six in other matches as well?
06:23 That's the question.
06:24 - That's the question. - Shidab won't come in fifth.
06:26 - The second thing is... - The practice match was being formalised.
06:31 The practice match was being formalised.
06:33 - There was no game plan. - That's right.
06:35 Like Shoaib said,
06:37 after every meeting, we make a mistake.
06:40 Even after that mistake, we were number one.
06:43 If we make a mistake in this World Cup and win it,
06:46 it's a matter of joy for us.
06:48 Do you agree that number one was only to say
06:54 or were we actually number one?
06:56 The number one is only from one point.
06:59 The point is, the teams we played against were weak
07:03 or the teams we played against were not their main players.
07:06 That's a different thing. Why didn't they come?
07:09 - They should know that. - That's right.
07:11 When you write New Zealand, you don't write New Zealand B team.
07:15 - New Zealand will come. - That's right.
07:17 You should agree to this.
07:20 - That's right. - We didn't win against B team.
07:23 It's a different thing if the players came or not.
07:25 That's right.
07:26 Younus, as a captain, representing a team,
07:30 it was captain's day, all the captains met.
07:33 To represent your country and lead it
07:39 is a matter of pride.
07:41 What would you say about the way Babar and Rohit Sharma spoke?
07:44 It's a matter of honour.
07:47 When you lead your country, you are a top player.
07:49 If we talk about Babar Azam's skills and his play,
07:54 he is world-renowned.
07:56 It's an honour for Babar Azam and all of us.
08:00 When you play in a country where you feel you can't go,
08:04 you have problems,
08:06 and when you go there and have conversations,
08:10 okay, you're doing it on the ICC platform,
08:13 but it's a good thing and an honour for you.
08:15 It's an honour for Babar Azam because you represented your country as a captain.
08:19 It's a glory.
08:20 It's fun to bring a cup.
08:24 If he wins a cup in India,
08:26 - it's the best achievement. - Absolutely.
08:28 It's a great honour for all of us.
08:31 Let's take a break. Stay with us.
08:34 Glad to have you back once again to our special transmission.
08:36 And now, the most important topic in the discussion,
08:40 I want all of you to give your opinions.
08:43 Inzamamul Haq went to India.
08:45 He went there in 2019.
08:48 This time, he went as the Chief Selector.
08:50 Mickey Arthur and the management are saying that they're not happy with this decision.
08:55 I'd like to hear your opinions.
08:57 - Should they go? - The internal report is...
09:00 - Shoaib, should we go to Shoaib first? - No, I think we should get the internal report first.
09:04 - Then we'll give our opinions. - It's not just the management.
09:07 Mickey Arthur is not happy.
09:09 The management is in the control of Inzamamul Haq and Babar Azam.
09:14 Nobody else is in control.
09:16 Whether it's the Central Contract, team selection,
09:18 or the strategies in the team, only these two are deciding.
09:22 Mickey Arthur thinks that they're not being followed.
09:27 Their strategies are not working.
09:28 Mickey Arthur is under a lot of pressure internally
09:32 that he's not playing with the Pakistan team in important matches.
09:35 - Of course. - Which is why there's a lot of criticism.
09:37 But it's not right that the Chief Selector is sitting in the dressing room.
09:40 But when you're not taking ownership,
09:42 - then you... - There's the other team.
09:44 You could've gone to the Asia Cup.
09:46 You could've gone to the Asia Cup and played there.
09:48 Because it was a connectivity issue.
09:51 You could've gone there and played.
09:53 You're getting paid Rs. 25 lakhs.
09:55 And the press conference that they did,
09:57 they said that they didn't want to change the past.
10:00 So you could've sat in the cricket committee and played there.
10:04 But you didn't get Rs. 25 lakhs.
10:05 - Now you're going there... - Now, the thing that was going on
10:08 that he didn't participate in a meeting,
10:10 was that the reason for not participating in the meeting?
10:13 That he said he wanted to go?
10:15 Believe it or not,
10:18 the reason is that Indramamulak doesn't like to answer.
10:22 He doesn't like to be answered.
10:23 So that's why he didn't appear in front of the technical committee.
10:26 Because there, one of the failures was that
10:28 you selected the team.
10:30 The most important person in that meeting was Indramamulak.
10:32 He announced the squad for the Asia Cup.
10:34 And he was supposed to do it for the World Cup.
10:36 - So he was the one who had to answer. - Okay.
10:38 So, it was not the managing committee.
10:40 It was just Indramamulak versus Mickey Arthur.
10:42 Okay. So, Mr. Basit,
10:44 do you think that going to the Asia Cup would make a difference
10:47 or would things get worse?
10:49 The head coach, the entire management...
10:53 Like Shoaib said, things wouldn't be running smoothly.
10:54 The Chief Selector should go.
10:57 There won't be any difference.
10:58 There won't be any difference?
10:59 If Mickey Arthur is upset, let him be.
11:02 It doesn't matter.
11:03 - When he was coaching his county... - Very true.
11:07 Right? He didn't come at that time.
11:09 - He was tweeting from there. - Absolutely right.
11:11 The match that took place in India,
11:13 in which we were out on 828,
11:15 who asked us to take a heavy role?
11:17 Mickey Arthur did.
11:18 We don't get to see that.
11:21 We have some...
11:23 - Experience. - We have some experience.
11:25 We get to know. We were told over the phone
11:27 to take a 7-minute heavy role.
11:29 On the pitch where it rained in the morning.
11:32 No one asked us.
11:33 Now he's talking about himself.
11:35 He's going to get a leave. It's simple.
11:38 I don't know who will get a leave after the World Cup.
11:41 - We'll wait for that. - We'll go in the middle.
11:43 - Really? - Yes.
11:44 Kamran, it's okay to hear this.
11:47 - But our space... - What's wrong with that?
11:49 - It's wrong to hear... - That the striker has gone to India.
11:51 - Yes, he went to India in 2019. - It's not wrong to say that.
11:54 - He's in England. - Listen to my question.
11:57 I understood the question.
11:58 - I understood the pattern. - My question is why did you leave the space?
12:01 Why did you go out in the Asia Cup?
12:03 There's no match more important than India-Pakistan.
12:06 And your director, who is basically the head coach,
12:10 - This director. - He's the head coach.
12:12 Do you think he gave you this opportunity?
12:16 He gave me this opportunity.
12:19 I think he's a great chief selector.
12:23 He goes to every team.
12:24 Ajiz had gone to the West Indies.
12:27 It wasn't an ICC event.
12:29 Chief selectors go to the teams.
12:31 I think Mickey Arthur shouldn't think about this.
12:34 He should think about what's best for the team.
12:36 He should do his job and so should the team.
12:39 If he keeps working on this,
12:41 the team will have a problem.
12:43 So, it's better to keep it away from the issue.
12:46 And the chairman has given permission from the Pakistan Cricket Board.
12:50 - We'll ask them. - Okay.
12:52 - It's better. - Before that, let's comment on this.
12:54 - I want to say something. - Let's comment on this.
12:56 We're back once again to our special transmission.
12:59 And the international cup is going to be a tough one for India and Pakistan.
13:03 Many Pakistani fans are waiting for the visa
13:07 to go through the international visa process.
13:09 They haven't received their visas yet.
13:11 What are the fans' impressions?
13:13 They'll show you.
13:15 We want to go and see the visa.
13:18 But we need tickets to get the visa.
13:21 We don't know when the tickets will be released.
13:24 We're facing a lot of difficulties.
13:26 Because the visa process is very long.
13:29 Bookings, accommodation, everything.
13:32 The ICC should see this.
13:33 I hope the tickets will be released soon.
13:37 And the visa process will be easier.
13:39 Younis, it's important for a big event
13:42 to make things easy for the fans.
13:46 They've booked tickets and hotels.
13:49 Flights are expensive before an event.
13:52 They have to change everything.
13:54 They're facing a lot of problems.
13:55 They can't go to watch the match.
13:57 They might get their visas later.
14:01 And the real charm will be of Pakistan-India game.
14:04 The World Cup is a big event.
14:07 It's not just an Asian Cup.
14:10 India should show their love and give visas on time.
14:17 Because if the fans don't come to such a big event,
14:23 it's not fun.
14:25 I think it's good that Pakistan...
14:27 If this World Cup was in our country,
14:29 a lot of Indian fans would have come.
14:31 It happened in the past and they were very happy.
14:33 I think India should show their love.
14:36 Because the game has gone beyond the boundaries of countries.
14:40 And the way cricket is getting promoted and popular in the world,
14:46 after one or two games, it's now at the second or third place.
14:50 I think it should be made easier so that the fans can enjoy.
14:55 Especially when there are World Cups in India or Pakistan,
14:59 people enjoy it.
15:02 If I talk about the fans here,
15:06 or about the hospitality of India and Pakistan,
15:08 it's very special.
15:09 Especially when people come from abroad
15:12 and people from different cultures gather,
15:14 it's a very good message.
15:17 I think it should be made easier.
15:18 Kamran, it's such a big event and the fans are having a hard time
15:22 getting visas.
15:24 It's a very sad thing.
15:26 It's a sad thing.
15:28 The fans, the cricket lovers,
15:30 have been planning for months.
15:34 And it's because of the fans that cricket is getting so popular.
15:39 So, it should be made as easy as possible.
15:42 It's the first time we've seen an ICC event.
15:45 There's a World Cup in India and we can see the problems.
15:48 So, the Pakistanis who want to go to Pakistan,
15:53 we request the government to make it easy for them.
15:57 The media people who have their visas suspended,
16:01 I think the PCB should come forward and solve their problem.
16:05 It's better if they get their visas as soon as possible.
16:08 Everyone will be together and they'll get love.
16:10 So, this is one thing.
16:12 And as Mr. Vinay said, this won't be a game of boundaries.
16:15 -It'll go much further. -It'll go much further.
16:17 That's right.
16:18 The chairman of the PCB's management committee,
16:21 Zakha Ashraf, says that we should play with courage
16:23 and there's no need to be under any pressure.
16:26 What does he have to say?
16:27 The supporters and supporters of Pakistan are with the team.
16:32 We're putting the team on the field with good wishes and prayers.
16:38 I expect my team to play with courage.
16:42 They don't need to lose anything.
16:44 They should win the trophy and come back to Pakistan.
16:49 We shouldn't worry about losing or winning.
16:52 Our team shouldn't worry about that.
16:54 We should play with courage.
16:56 Play with courage and the entire nation is with you.
16:59 The entire nation is with you. Play with courage.
17:02 Mr. Basit, what do you have to say on this statement?
17:05 A chairman's statement is the same.
17:09 What can I say?
17:11 Play with courage.
17:12 -Whether you win or lose. -Yes.
17:14 It's a routine thing.
17:17 Before we go on break,
17:20 we have some thoughts from Mr. Yonus.
17:22 He's a mentor, a consultant, a 92 point member.
17:30 He's a hero of the 92 point.
17:32 What else can he do?
17:35 He can be a consulting consultant.
17:37 -He can explain. -You can give me 2-3 minutes.
17:42 What else can he do?
17:44 He can guide us and share his experience.
17:47 He can show us.
17:49 He can do lap-time bowling.
17:52 He can do morning bowling.
17:54 He can do spring bowling.
17:55 Shoaib is saying he can dictate.
17:57 First of all, tell me.
17:59 I'm getting nervous.
18:01 What is Mickey Arthur?
18:03 He's the team director.
18:04 What does a team director have to do?
18:06 -Coach. -That's what he has to do.
18:08 -He has to do everything. -When the head coach is there.
18:11 We've talked a lot about Mickey Arthur.
18:14 He should be there.
18:16 Does anyone know about his contract?
18:18 -Do you know the clause? -That's the contract.
18:20 Why are we talking about him being there?
18:22 He should be there for the India match, for the rain match.
18:25 He should be there.
18:26 When you've given him the contract...
18:28 It's not his fault, it's the contractor's fault.
18:32 In the end, he's doing everything.
18:36 It's not like that.
18:37 If I'm there instead of Mickey Arthur, I'll get confused.
18:41 I have a planning.
18:43 If we sit here and two more people come...
18:49 or someone else comes and sits with you...
18:51 it creates confusion.
18:53 You don't have to create confusion.
18:54 If you want to do anything,
18:56 I think, according to me,
19:01 you don't have any other mentor.
19:03 You don't have any other 92K hero.
19:06 You don't have any other batting consultant.
19:09 The problem is when I come here and someone else comes.
19:15 When they're a PCB employee, it's possible that what I say will get leaked.
19:20 You know, there are many problems in teams like ours.
19:23 So, don't put it in confusion.
19:26 If we talk about Inzamam, he's already our chief selector.
19:30 If he goes as a chief selector,
19:32 like all the chief selectors in the world,
19:36 it'll be better if he goes in that role.
19:38 If he becomes a batting consultant, it's a problem.
19:40 Because you have a batting coach and Mickey Arthur extra.
19:44 Because he's the team director.
19:46 There are other coaches.
19:47 There's a head coach and many more.
19:50 If he goes as a 92K hero,
19:53 he'll be the chief selector and it'll be a problem.
19:56 And if I talk about the fielding coach,
20:01 -it's a problem. -It's a problem.
20:02 Don't put it in confusion.
20:03 -There's already a lot of confusion. -Yes.
20:06 There's confusion in team selection.
20:07 There's confusion about who gets selected.
20:10 We've already created a lot of confusion.
20:13 Let these players play.
20:14 Let Babar Azhar be the captain.
20:16 God forbid, if anything happens in his captaincy,
20:19 there's already a lot of debate.
20:21 Let him give his advice.
20:23 Let all the players play their game.
20:27 So that they can open up and let us enjoy.
20:30 -It'll be a good game. -Exactly.
20:32 How will the confusion be solved?
20:34 It's the last minutes of the last program.
20:36 Just keep yourself relaxed.
20:39 Don't go into too many things.
20:41 Think about the World Cup, the match.
20:44 Think about the match.
20:45 Don't go to the final or the top four.
20:48 -Keep yourself relaxed. -Okay.
20:50 That's the best.
20:52 Basit has a smile on his face.
20:53 Basit, one step at a time.
20:55 -Don't think about the future. -We're preparing for the World Cup.
20:58 -We're preparing for the World Cup. -Exactly.
21:00 -This is what I couldn't say. -We're preparing for the World Cup.
21:03 -This is what I couldn't say. -This is very...
21:06 I felt awkward. I couldn't say it.
21:08 -But Basit has more experience than me. -He's the most prepared.
21:12 He has seen so many pairs.
21:14 I have seen very few.
21:16 I've been watching him for 20-22 years.
21:19 He's been watching him for 40-45 years.
21:21 Shoaib, you have 20 seconds.
21:23 He's been selected from the Review Committee to the Chief Selector.
21:26 Let's see what he's waiting for.
21:29 I'll say one thing.
21:31 A dictatorship is not good all the time.
21:33 -Okay. -Imam is a great player.
21:35 -He should respect himself. -On that note...
21:38 -Who made Mickey Arthur? -Who made Mickey Arthur?
21:41 -The management... -We'll try to answer all these questions
21:43 before the World Cup ends.
21:45 -We'll try to answer all these questions. -We'll get the answers.
21:47 There are many questions.
21:49 That's all for our transmission.
21:51 We'll be back before the World Cup match at 1 PM.
21:56 Give your host, Najeeb-ul-Hasnain, your permission.
21:58 Take care. Goodbye.