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(Current Affairs)
Host:
- Maria Memon
Guests:
- Mansoor Jafri
- Raja Riaz Ahmad Khan PMLN
- Iftikhar Firdous
- Brig(R) Haris Nawaz (Sindh Caretaker Minister)
Israel-Palestine War: Complete details of Palestinian group Hamas' biggest attack on Israel
PML-N Leader Raja Riaz speaks up on Elections 2024 and Nawaz Sharif's return
"Shayad Ek Aat Raat Jail Yah Thane Mai Rehna Pare...," Raja Riaz's big statement
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(Current Affairs)
Host:
- Maria Memon
Guests:
- Mansoor Jafri
- Raja Riaz Ahmad Khan PMLN
- Iftikhar Firdous
- Brig(R) Haris Nawaz (Sindh Caretaker Minister)
Israel-Palestine War: Complete details of Palestinian group Hamas' biggest attack on Israel
PML-N Leader Raja Riaz speaks up on Elections 2024 and Nawaz Sharif's return
"Shayad Ek Aat Raat Jail Yah Thane Mai Rehna Pare...," Raja Riaz's big statement
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00:00 Assalam-o-Alaikum, I am Mary Ameen, I am with you today in the surprise assembly of Top Stories.
00:14 The Palestinian-Israeli tension has increased. In the first part of the program, we will talk about how the Middle East peace deal will affect today's events.
00:25 In the second part of the program, we will talk about the leadership of the opposition, Raja Riaz Barista Noon League.
00:32 And finally, we will talk about the decision of the illegal Afghan citizens to return to their country.
00:40 But let's start with today's important news. At around 8.30 am, the Hamas armed forces, Al Qassam Brigade, launched an attack on Israel.
00:55 We have been seeing this news on social media since morning. According to Hamas, the operation "Tufan-ul-Aqsa" has launched 5,000 rockets from Gaza to Israel and the State of Labib.
01:11 According to the latest news, the attack on Israel took place at a time when the 50-year-old Arab-Israeli war was over and the Jewish holiday was being celebrated in Israel.
01:21 The commander of the Hamas Al Qassam Brigade, Mohammad Zaif, announced in his video statement that the operation "Tufan-ul-Aqsa" has been launched against Israel by drawing a line against the Israeli army.
01:32 According to the translation of the Israeli army, Hamas attacked from the air, sea and land.
01:37 Hamas has claimed that in the south-east of the Gaza Strip, Israel's Karim Abul Salim Basaradi Square and nearby military bases have also been captured.
01:45 Hamas has also entered the southern Israel. Two decades later, the Palestinians removed the Gaza Strip from the Bada Bulldozer.
01:54 According to the Israeli Emergency Services, more than 40 Israeli casualties were reported in Hamas' rocket attacks, while more than 500 were injured.
02:02 According to Hamas, the commander of the Israeli army and dozens of Israeli soldiers have been arrested.
02:08 According to the Israeli Ministry of Defense, 17 military compounds and four operations centers in Gaza were targeted in the retaliatory operation.
02:15 According to the Palestinian Ministry of Health, Operation Iron Swords has been launched in the Israeli retaliatory attack, which includes 198 Palestinian martyrs.
02:24 What is the global reaction?
02:26 After taking a very careful look at the situation, the Pakistani reaction has been released by the Foreign Office a while ago.
02:33 It states that Pakistan is closely monitoring the situation and is demanding action on the existing sanctions on two states.
02:47 What does Saudi Arabia say?
02:51 Saudi Arabia tells both parties to end this fight for the protection of civil liberties.
02:56 Saudi Arabia has repeatedly said that the Palestinians' right to claim their rights could have a dangerous consequence.
03:03 It also tells the international community to find a solution to the Palestinian issue.
03:06 Qatar's reaction has also been released. Qatar not only expresses concern about the tension, but also claims that Israel is responsible for the entire situation.
03:15 So, Qatar has clearly picked a side with the Palestinians.
03:19 What does the Palestinian reaction say?
03:26 It says that we have been warning about such a reaction that such a reaction will be made against the rights of the Palestinians.
03:30 The Palestinians have been facing injustice for 75 years.
03:35 The Turkish President's reaction states that both parties should reduce tension and both should act reasonably in this regard.
03:45 Other countries, such as the US, European Union and Russia, have clearly stated that the attack on Israel was a terrorist attack.
04:03 The US has also stated that the attack on Hamas was a terrorist attack.
04:08 Russia has also stated that both parties should be patient and cease fire.
04:15 This is the current situation.
04:17 We are with Mansoor Jaffer, an expert in human rights, in the studio.
04:26 The first thing is that this is a complete intelligence failure of the Israeli forces.
04:36 This is the reason why the Palestinians have been able to penetrate the border from three different fronts.
04:41 What has happened?
04:44 This is not an overnight development.
04:49 This was a well-thought-out plan on the part of the Palestinians.
04:52 The international media is saying that the Israelis are taken aback by this attack.
05:00 You have pointed out correctly that this is a pure intelligence failure.
05:05 I believe that with this intelligence failure, Israel has marketed its surveillance capabilities internationally.
05:17 When we plead with the international community about normalization,
05:26 we are told that Israel has good technology and agriculture.
05:31 But today, the difference in technology has been revealed.
05:36 The Palestinians have infiltrated the area where Israel has been in control for the past 16 years.
05:55 They have reached the intersection called Karam Abu Salim.
06:00 This is the only international border with Gaza.
06:06 The goods trucks come from there to Gaza.
06:11 How did you manage this with limited resources?
06:15 Israel has a budget and international support.
06:18 The US and other countries support Israel with arms and other resources.
06:22 What is the Palestinian power in front of this?
06:25 The Palestinians launched an operation to get the right of return from March last year.
06:33 They held a protest on Friday to highlight this right of return.
06:42 During the protest, the Palestinian fighters closely monitored the area.
06:52 They used different technologies to attack the area.
06:55 They used hot balloons to attack the Israeli settlements.
06:59 They used small weapons to fire.
07:02 They have ascertained the entire area after a complete ground homework.
07:11 They were looking for a time when there would be a massive gathering along the other side of the Gaza border.
07:20 On this occasion, the Jewish settlers were present in large numbers.
07:32 When the attack was carried out, they were targeted.
07:36 There was a panic.
07:39 They did not only cross the border of Gaza, but also flew inside Israel using gliders.
07:46 They used sailing planes to reach different ports.
07:55 They reached seven cities in the far flung areas.
08:00 We have seen that there are contacts with other Muslim countries in the Middle East.
08:07 There are claims that there are other countries who are also involved in this.
08:16 How will this peace deal affect them?
08:20 I think that this is a big test for the Arab countries who want to solve this issue.
08:32 Saudi Arabia has a high position in the Muslim world.
08:38 They had high hopes that if they would take a step forward,
08:44 other Muslim countries, including Pakistan, would follow suit.
08:49 I think that this situation is a big test for them.
08:57 Israel has to show its backlash against Hamas.
09:06 It will be severe.
09:08 There are reports that there are casualties in Palestine.
09:13 It will be difficult for any Muslim country, including Saudi Arabia,
09:18 to join the peace process that was started by the Emirates, Indonesia,
09:27 and then by the United Arab Emirates, Sudan, and many other countries.
09:34 The situation that we are seeing now, especially in the Middle East,
09:38 will be difficult.
09:39 It will take more time.
09:41 Thank you, Mr. Mansoor Jafar, for giving us a perspective on this issue.
09:47 We will return after the break.
09:49 We will talk about local politics.
09:51 Stay with us.
09:52 Welcome back.
09:54 We have with us Raja Riaz, a former opposition leader,
09:57 who has joined the Muslim League.
10:00 Thank you for joining us.
10:02 We have a lot of questions and topics.
10:04 Let's start with the election.
10:06 When will Mr. Nawaz Sharif come?
10:08 I think he should announce the date before he comes and starts the election campaign.
10:15 The date of the election has not been announced yet.
10:18 We have talked about the last week of January.
10:21 But the date is not coming.
10:23 What do you think is the reason for this?
10:25 Will the date come before Mr. Sharif comes back?
10:28 It is difficult, Maria.
10:31 I don't think so.
10:32 Because there are still objections on the elections.
10:37 There is a period until the objections are finalized,
10:41 and the final elections are not finalized.
10:45 I find it difficult to announce the date.
10:48 But the date will come a week before or after February 15th.
10:54 And the elections will be in mid-February.
10:56 Maulana Fazlur Rehman is saying that it is very cold at that time.
11:00 There will be snowfall.
11:02 He is talking about January.
11:04 It is cold in January.
11:05 The weather gets better in February.
11:07 He will agree for February.
11:11 But how did the cold come in February?
11:14 Earlier, the elections were held in February.
11:16 I don't understand Maulana's statement.
11:18 Is it about the cold?
11:20 Is it about the delay of the elections?
11:23 I don't think so.
11:25 No, the elections are not being delayed.
11:27 I will tell you.
11:29 The elections will be held in mid-February.
11:31 And it will definitely happen.
11:34 Mr. Nawaz Sharif is coming.
11:36 It has become clear that the elections will be held in February.
11:40 The elections will be held in February.
11:43 What kind of election will it be?
11:45 There are many questions on this.
11:47 Let's start with the statement of the former party.
11:50 He is saying that there is no level playing field for them.
11:53 So, there is no level playing field for Tariq-e-Insaaf.
11:55 There is no level playing field for the People's Party.
11:58 So, there is only a level playing field for PMLN.
12:01 I am not saying that the PTI elections should not be held.
12:07 I am just saying that the people who are involved in the 9th May incident.
12:14 The people who did this.
12:16 The people who are the masterminds of this.
12:19 The people who took such a big step against the state.
12:22 The people who burnt the bodies of our martyrs.
12:26 The people who attacked the house of the Corps Commander.
12:29 The people who were proud of our ships.
12:32 The people who were afraid of the Indians.
12:35 The people who set them on fire.
12:37 They should be punished severely.
12:40 As far as the People's Party is concerned.
12:44 The People's Party is playing a very smart game.
12:47 First, they are trying to separate themselves from the government of the 16th May.
12:55 And secondly, they are trying to influence the public.
13:00 That we are the ones who are responsible for the elections.
13:02 We want the foreign elections.
13:04 So, we, Muslim League Noor, also want the foreign elections.
13:07 We don't want to delay.
13:09 But we all together, the census, the People's Party also signed on it.
13:15 We also did it.
13:16 Many other people did it.
13:18 So, signing on the census clearly meant that there will be a light ban.
13:23 And after the light ban is completed, we demand the elections to be given immediately.
13:29 And the elections should be held in February.
13:31 Sir, the People's Party is playing a smart game.
13:33 Please elaborate on this.
13:34 How is it playing a smart game?
13:36 They are saying that the revenge campaigns against us in the elections.
13:41 They are saying that they don't have a level playing field.
13:43 They are saying that they have a single party for PMLN who has a level playing field.
13:46 What is the smart game in this?
13:48 The smart game is that yesterday, someone complained to the Election Commission about them.
13:55 That they have government vehicles, protocol and police vehicles.
14:01 I am telling you about yesterday.
14:03 So, we, Muslim League Noor, don't have any government vehicle, protocol, or any kind of favour.
14:13 They are looting the entire government.
14:18 So, please tell us about the level.
14:20 Sir, I have seen that the protocol is being given to Maryam Bibi in the elections.
14:24 No, that is fine.
14:26 She is also their own.
14:28 The government is also there.
14:30 Maryam, Nawaz Sharif, or Shabaz Sharif, wherever they go, the government will have to be gathered.
14:36 But the rest, I give an example, the Minister of Internal Affairs, Hirana Sinhaullah,
14:44 I met him yesterday.
14:46 He has no government security.
14:48 He has his own private security.
14:50 So, these facilities that Muslim League Noor doesn't have, are with the People's Party.
14:56 But the People's Party is playing a smart game.
14:59 They are enjoying the entire Sindh.
15:01 And they are also playing the role of opposition.
15:04 And after 18 months of the ministers' fun,
15:08 that Malwa is also trying to transfer everything to the Muslim League Noor.
15:13 So, the environment for the People's Party, for the elections, is more friendly.
15:18 The Muslim League Noor has less than that.
15:20 But you are saying that.
15:21 Sir, how? The Nigran government, the sitting government of Wifa,
15:24 has 2 to 3 people who have clear allegiances to the PMLN.
15:28 There is a clear inclination towards the PMLN.
15:30 There is no one from the People's Party, Sir.
15:32 The people you are talking about are the baroque.
15:35 Sir, very closely associated with Shabaz Sahib.
15:39 Very integral part of his team.
15:41 Even now, 5 years ago, he is very closely aligned with him.
15:45 That is why he has a very strong influence on them.
15:48 Listen to me. You have spoken, now listen to me.
15:51 If there was a Muslim League worker or an official in this government,
15:57 then you would have had a big weight.
15:59 Now, if a government official is a baroque,
16:03 and he has come to the Nigran government,
16:06 he is interested in different political parties of the government.
16:10 He is sympathetic.
16:11 Similarly, if someone has worked with Shabaz Sharif Sahib,
16:17 or he is sympathetic,
16:18 then it does not mean that he is a worker of the Noor League.
16:22 He is a baroque, a judge, a general.
16:25 All of them can become a part of the Nigran government.
16:28 If a Muslim League worker is a minister in this loyal government,
16:34 then your complaint is justified.
16:36 You have a weight in your words.
16:37 But if he is a baroque,
16:39 then the baroque has different people and different people are associated with it.
16:44 It is possible that he has friendship with some friends of the People's Party,
16:48 or with some friends of the ANP,
16:51 or he has sympathy with some PTIs.
16:53 Similarly, he must have sympathy with Maulana Fazlur Rahman.
16:57 So, to have sympathy or to have a soft corner for the party,
17:03 after all, he is a human being.
17:05 He can have a soft corner for any party.
17:08 Sir, but along with being a human being,
17:10 he is also on two important ministries.
17:12 One is the transfer posting.
17:13 You yourself said that some people have a soft corner for political parties.
17:20 So, this is a very strong impression that they have a soft corner for PMLN.
17:25 Another ministry is the Development Funds.
17:28 So, these are two very important factors during the election.
17:32 Transfer Posting and Development Funds.
17:34 On which the People's Party is complaining that we have stopped.
17:37 We are not getting any Development Fund.
17:39 We are not getting any transfer posting of our choice.
17:42 There is no transfer posting.
17:44 There is a Chief Secretary in Pijab.
17:46 Or the rest of the people are doing it in Meerut.
17:49 We are not getting any kind of favor.
17:52 We are not getting any transfer posting of our choice.
17:54 This is just a slander.
17:57 And just a baroque rate.
17:59 Because they have a little sympathy.
18:02 I agree with this.
18:04 But, after all, first of all, they have been employees of the state.
18:08 Now they are retired.
18:10 And they are the retired ministers of the state.
18:14 So, that's why, Nagrahan is the minister.
18:16 So, to curse them that they are with Muslim League Noon is a crime.
18:21 Okay. Sir, let's move a little further.
18:23 We saw that Nawaz Sharif did a press conference before coming back.
18:27 He said that General Bajwa and General Faiz and some other characters who were judges should be sent to the government.
18:37 Then we saw that after 11 days, the statement was changed slowly.
18:41 Mr. Dar said that we have left all these matters to Allah.
18:45 That is, there are two clear groups.
18:46 Mazamati and Mafamati.
18:48 Whom are you more inclined to?
18:51 I think that the difficulty that the people of Pakistan are facing right now.
18:56 And the difficulty they are living with.
18:59 And the way they are burdened with inflation, electricity bills, gas, education for children.
19:05 They are facing difficulties in everything.
19:08 We should look ahead.
19:10 Their difficulties should be reduced.
19:12 They have full hope from Mr. Nawaz Sharif.
19:15 That Mr. Nawaz Sharif is the only person who can get them out of this problem.
19:20 I will request Mr. Mian to strengthen the country economically.
19:27 The people of the country should get better in their lives economically.
19:31 This should be our first target.
19:33 Whatever has happened, we should look ahead.
19:36 Sir, this is something that many people must have requested Mr. Mian.
19:40 But still he gave a statement that until we fix the past, we cannot move forward.
19:45 So this is his desire somewhere.
19:49 And his community has other desires.
19:51 Do you think that the Faizabad protest will be resolved with this or with any other measure?
20:01 I have told you my opinion.
20:06 The party leaders are the ones who will decide.
20:10 I think we should look ahead.
20:13 We should get Pakistan out of the difficulties it is facing.
20:19 The difficulties that the people of Pakistan are facing,
20:24 they are facing every day, every hour.
20:28 The mistakes of Umar Khan, the wrong decisions, the corruption,
20:34 the corruption of the country,
20:36 Mr. Mian has conspired against him in a very good way in 2017.
20:43 But in 2022, even the younger Mr. Mian has come.
20:46 Mr. Shahbaz was also there.
20:48 No, there was very little time.
20:50 I will tell you one thing, Mr. Shahbaz receives a lot of credit.
20:53 He saved the country from being default.
20:56 If the country was default, then today 600 rupees per liter of oil would have been worth 500 dollars.
21:01 I think Mr. Shahbaz has done a great job.
21:05 He saved the country from being default.
21:07 But sir, you keep saying that this used to happen in the government of Mr. Mian Nawaz Sharif.
21:11 This used to happen in the government of Mr. Nawaz Sharif.
21:13 Mr. Shahbaz's government was four months ago.
21:15 If you don't mention that, then he will talk about the government for five years and make a marriage.
21:19 There was very little time in that.
21:22 And Umar Khan had done so much corruption.
21:25 In every respect, in terms of foreign policy, in terms of immigration policy, in terms of economic policy.
21:33 There was so much corruption that in 16 months, there was only one big event of Mr. Shahbaz Sharif.
21:41 He saved the country from being default.
21:43 Sir, your statement was in 2020.
21:45 At that time, you thought that Mr. Nawaz Sharif had gone back to the country after making a deal.
21:49 Do you still think that he is a visionary?
21:51 The situation has changed.
21:52 Where is he standing at the moment?
21:54 Because you met him, and I think there must have been a change in people.
21:58 Is Mr. Mian a visionary at the moment or not?
22:01 Mr. Mian Nawaz Sharif always follows his words.
22:10 Mr. Mian Nawaz Sharif has been the Prime Minister three times.
22:14 Everyone knows about him.
22:19 He is a visionary and follows his words.
22:28 So, sir, he is coming back after making a deal.
22:31 No, there is no deal now.
22:33 Was there a deal when he was leaving?
22:37 Maybe, I said, and I think so.
22:41 So, now you met him and felt that there was a deal at that time and now there is no deal.
22:44 Because now all this coming back.
22:47 Now I have met him and felt that there was no deal at that time and now there is no deal.
22:51 Okay, he is coming back.
22:52 So, will he be arrested when he comes back?
22:55 Yes, he will be given a warrant.
22:59 After that, he will have to be slandered.
23:02 And after that, I think he will be bailed.
23:08 So, you can't see him going to jail?
23:10 Jail or police station, maybe he will have to stay for a couple of nights.
23:18 All this is being decided by his legal team.
23:22 Okay, Nawaz Sharif will be out, he will hold rallies, run campaigns.
23:26 Imran Khan will be in jail, Nahil will also be in jail, maybe.
23:28 We don't know about his party.
23:31 So, will this be a free and fair election?
23:33 The election that will take place in February with this scenario?
23:36 After Imran Khan has taken a step against the state,
23:42 you think that he is still in this position that he should be allowed to fight the elections?
23:47 Sir, that has to be decided by the courts.
23:49 The decision has not come out yet.
23:51 We are also a Pakistani, we should also be as sympathetic to the state as every Pakistani is.
23:58 The step that Imran Khan has taken, no one has taken in the history of Pakistan.
24:03 In fact, no one in the world has done what Imran Khan has done.
24:07 Sir, the history of this country, I don't even remember the history of this country.
24:12 There was a plane hijacking case against Nawaz Sharif.
24:14 At that time, the same atmosphere was created.
24:16 Then he left, then he came back, then he became the Prime Minister.
24:18 Now, according to you, he is going to be the Prime Minister for the fourth time.
24:22 So, there is a lot of up and down in this country.
24:24 You have seen more politics than me.
24:26 No, no, those things were different.
24:28 The way Imran Khan has broken the graves of our martyrs,
24:30 the way he has broken the bodies of our martyrs,
24:34 and put them in front,
24:36 that is an unforgivable crime.
24:38 He has committed a very big crime.
24:40 The rest, the people who have given their lives for us,
24:45 are in the graves today, and their disobedience,
24:48 I think no society will accept it.
24:51 No state accepts it, and should not.
24:54 It is a very big crime.
24:56 The rest can be forgiven,
24:58 but the people who are in the graves,
25:00 their disobedience is unforgivable.
25:04 No state compromises on this.
25:06 Okay, what do you think about IPP?
25:09 Because you have joined the Noon League,
25:11 but IPP is also a political force in Punjab.
25:14 What are its prospects?
25:16 Will the match be good?
25:18 What will happen in Punjab?
25:20 Who will be against whom?
25:22 Who will vote against whom?
25:25 Please explain this to us.
25:27 I am going around in the circles.
25:30 I am doing preparations for the Jalsa of Mr. Nawaz Sharif.
25:34 I am going to places, doing corner meetings,
25:38 I am contacting people,
25:40 I am arranging to take people.
25:42 I did not see a single vote from the Astakam Party in the circle.
25:48 The rest, their leaders, Mr. Aleem Khan,
25:52 or Mr. Jahangir Khan Tareen,
25:54 they are respectable people for me,
25:56 they are my elder brothers, I respect them.
25:58 But as far as the vote is concerned,
26:00 I have been going around in the circle for 8-10 days.
26:05 I have just returned from the circle because of your program,
26:08 I am going back after this.
26:10 I did not see their vote anywhere.
26:13 So who has the vote?
26:15 People's Party, obviously PMLN,
26:17 Tariq-e-Insaf, People's Party,
26:19 these three big contenders.
26:21 People's Party is not there.
26:23 People do not understand Tariq-e-Insaf,
26:28 or our children,
26:30 their minds are so,
26:32 this man has done magic,
26:35 what has he done,
26:37 their minds are not right,
26:39 they do not understand what this man has done to the country,
26:43 what he has done to the state,
26:45 I do not know what magic he has done to their minds.
26:48 I accept this,
26:50 that his candidates,
26:52 PTI's, Imran Khan's candidates,
26:55 and those people,
26:57 note one thing here,
26:59 if Imran Khan is not there,
27:01 they will not go to cast a vote.
27:03 They will not go with a candidate.
27:05 Imran Khan,
27:07 I think that is why,
27:09 Imran Khan respected Pirni so much,
27:11 and he listened to him,
27:13 that is why he did magic.
27:15 Rajesh, I think,
27:17 we should move away from personal talk on politics,
27:21 I have a specific question,
27:23 PMLN has a vote, PTI has a vote,
27:25 there is a little vote there too,
27:27 People's Party has not voted,
27:29 IPP has not voted,
27:31 is that what you are saying?
27:33 PTI's vote,
27:35 in Punjab, in my constituency,
27:37 there is no vote.
27:39 Last time, their MLA's candidate,
27:41 took 900 votes, in 2018.
27:43 Now, there is no one of 900 votes.
27:45 In my constituency,
27:47 there is no vote of Sikkim Party,
27:49 nor of People's Party.
27:51 Ok, so PTI's vote,
27:53 Noon, at this time,
27:55 I can tell you,
27:57 till the extent of Faisalabad and Punjab,
27:59 that Muslim League Noon,
28:01 till the extent of Punjab,
28:03 is sweeping,
28:05 there is nothing in front of it.
28:07 Sir, you said, Imran Khan is not in the picture,
28:09 if PTI's candidates are there,
28:11 who have been appointed by Mr. Tariq-e-Insaaf,
28:13 they will get a vote,
28:15 so your biggest competition in Punjab,
28:17 at this time,
28:19 on which party,
28:21 let's say, People's Party has removed IPP,
28:23 in which Punjab,
28:25 do you personally consider yourself,
28:27 as a rival?
28:29 Look, the people of PTI,
28:31 who were MNA,
28:33 they have so much courage,
28:35 that they can fight elections.
28:37 70-80% of them,
28:39 10 seats in Faisalabad,
28:41 1 or 2 are left,
28:43 rest have announced,
28:45 that they have no relation with PTI.
28:47 Yes, we are PTI,
28:49 in fact, some have criticized Imran Khan.
28:51 Now, if a new person,
28:53 who has never fought elections,
28:55 in his life,
28:57 we have around 360 polling stations,
28:59 in the KMNLK,
29:01 350 should be added,
29:03 to manage 350 polling stations,
29:05 we need a science,
29:07 we need a technology,
29:09 we need manpower,
29:11 we need experience,
29:13 we need money,
29:15 all these are basic needs.
29:17 So, the people of PTI,
29:19 who were experienced,
29:21 have left the party,
29:23 and there are a few,
29:25 who have run away,
29:27 I don't know,
29:29 whether they come to elections or not,
29:31 I don't think,
29:33 they are in a position,
29:35 to fight the Noondi.
29:37 Thank you very much,
29:39 Raja Riaz was with us,
29:41 we were talking about Punjab's politics,
29:43 we were deciphering the whole matter,
29:45 we were discussing,
29:47 what are the important challengers,
29:49 they understand,
29:51 about PPP and IPP,
29:53 we will go to the break,
29:55 when we come back,
29:57 we will talk about the illegal immigrants,
29:59 and the new policy of the state of Pakistan,
30:01 we will talk about the status of the illegal immigrants,
30:03 we will talk about the status of the illegal immigrants,
30:05 we will talk about the status of the illegal immigrants,
30:07 we will talk about the status of the illegal immigrants,
30:09 we will talk about the status of the illegal immigrants,
30:11 we have with us,
30:13 Brigadier General Haris Nawaz,
30:15 we have with us,
30:17 we have with us,
30:19 we have with us,
30:21 I uh
30:35 a
30:35 lot of people live in Pakistan and they have proper documents and papers, should they not be treated equally, what is your opinion on this?
30:43 We have made very clear decisions and there is no doubt that the Afghan government is putting a bomb on the social media.
30:50 Look, the Afghan refugees registered in Pakistan, there are 1.4 million, they are recognised as Pakistan's United Nations High Commissioner of Refugees.
31:01 The people who are our guests, we are treating them with hospitality, we will continue to do so, there is no problem with them.
31:07 But the problem is that there are illegal immigrants in Pakistan, who are not found anywhere in the world.
31:16 You must have seen that everything is confined to one place, and there they are arranged.
31:21 I have told you very clearly, the difference is that the illegal immigrants, who have overstayed their visas, fake cards, fake certificates,
31:33 they are falling in the category of illegal immigrants.
31:38 They have a very clear policy that their property, their business, where there are more people, we have given them a month, 30th October, the last date, and they should take it as a final word.
31:51 Number two, the illegal immigrants, who are sitting in other countries, they are all, who are also in the Nadra Registered Card, they are staying here, we are not bothering them at all.
32:01 But the illegal immigrants, whether they are in Afghanistan or in other countries, we have arranged for everyone,
32:08 that there are committees at the district level, in Karachi, the commissioner, SSP, Nadra, and special branch, the information,
32:17 we will arrest them, we will arrest them, we will keep them in a building,
32:23 we will send them to the border with proper respect, we will send them to the border, and we will arrest them there.
32:33 This is the policy and it is very clear, but see, Afghanistan and Pakistan are two different sovereign countries,
32:40 it should not be mixed, there are Tajiks, Uzbeks, Hazaras, Balochs, and these are all Pashtuns,
32:49 but we have to see, we have 425, since 1947, now in this number, 425 crores,
32:58 which are very famous Pashtuns, our entire population, and if we don't get them, in this number, they will cause us problems.
33:07 Okay, this is a little clarity, there is another aspect to this, that is the political aspect.
33:11 Iftikhar Sahib, today we heard Maulana Fazlur Rahman Sahib's statement,
33:14 he strongly criticized this decision, along with that he said,
33:19 which is a technical point, we will talk to Brigadier Sahib on this,
33:23 he said that this is bureaucracy, the police are after the Afghan people like a thief.
33:29 So, at this time, why do you think Maulana Sahib gave this statement?
33:33 There is an election, there is a need for a vote bank, the Pashtun diaspora is there,
33:37 the Afghan nationals are there, because of them, he was forced to give this statement.
33:41 See, there is a trajectory to the build-up of the elections, which we are seeing,
33:45 and if you don't see this statement in isolation, in the last couple of statements,
33:50 which Maulana Fazlur Rahman Sahib has given,
33:52 one is the People Party, and in between that, the public demonstration of Chapkalish,
33:57 plus, the stance of the people regarding the election is coming forward,
34:00 and the statement against the establishment, we saw Maulana Fazlur Rahman Sahib,
34:04 although he was at the forefront of the PDM movement,
34:08 but the words he used on this particular topic,
34:13 one is obviously the vote of the Pashtun diaspora,
34:16 obviously, everyone wants that sentiments should go towards a party which is not a popular narrative,
34:23 because we are seeing that all the popular narratives are being challenged.
34:27 Secondly, obviously, since he belongs to the Deoband school of thought,
34:32 so strategically placing himself, that he has his own connections with the Afghan Taliban,
34:38 so that he is not affected, he should not get an inhuman touch in terms of politics,
34:44 and further, because there should be someone to talk to,
34:48 so obviously, Fazlur Rahman Sahib is an interestingly placed politician,
34:52 who has always been playing that role, where the rest of the people fail.
34:57 So, see him in this scenario, in the political scenario.
35:00 But taking the point forward in terms of the eviction process,
35:04 obviously, it is a very big operation, it is not a small piece of thing,
35:08 that in one day, 1.4, we know it is 1.4, obviously, the numbers can be more,
35:15 but in terms of Sindh and Punjab, there may not be so many problems in this process,
35:20 because of the numbers, but in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa and Balochistan,
35:24 executing this level of operation, I think, it is important to bring clarity in two things,
35:30 that who is the operation against, which Brigadier Sahib has told us about.
35:35 And the term used by the APEC Committee, if you look at the minutes,
35:40 and the statement, it is about illegal immigrants.
35:43 Now, I think, because the numbers of Afghans are unfortunately the highest in Pakistan,
35:50 but if you look at the data of our passport office,
35:54 there are many people from other countries, people of ethnicities,
35:58 who are illegal residents, so this operation will be against all of them.
36:02 One thing, about which clarity, as you have also asked,
36:06 that obviously, how will this plan be done and how will this work proceed,
36:10 I think, in this, clarity and the statements that are being developed against this in social media,
36:16 there will be a lot of pressure, when the provincial governments will make their plans,
36:21 that how will this process proceed, because we are being told again and again,
36:26 officially, that keeping in mind the humanitarian standards,
36:31 and the process of eviction will be according to the international aid organizations and laws,
36:36 plus there is a very big claim, and it has been checked by the Afghan Embassy,
36:40 I have personally talked about it, that the Afghan Embassy has been kept in a loop.
36:44 So, if there is a case, in which there is a suspicion,
36:47 that they have a POR card or there is some other issue,
36:50 then for clarification, the Afghan Embassy is there,
36:53 and the humanitarian organizations should also be mobilized.
36:56 Okay, what you said, a little clarity, which Brigadier Sir,
37:00 needs in this regard, I have mentioned it again and again, and I am doing it today as well,
37:03 that an illegal immigrant, who was later clarified,
37:07 when the first statement came, there was no clarity, and one is the people of legal status.
37:11 Now, yesterday I also ran a notification, where it was shown,
37:15 how it was written, that all the Afghan residents present in this building should be left this place.
37:20 So, how will this clarity come at the lower level,
37:23 how will this state and you ensure, that there is no exploitation,
37:27 of those people, who have legal status, in this cover,
37:30 who are illegal people, you have to remove from the country.
37:32 This is a very fine point, but this is a very important request, and this must also be addressed.
37:36 Maria, we are very clear about it, and we are very respectful to our Pashtuns,
37:40 we have 4.5 crore Pashtuns, who are living in peace.
37:47 And these 1.4 crore registered, United Nations, KFOR, Afghan refugees,
37:52 they remain with us, there is no problem with them.
37:55 Apart from this, the illegal immigrants, who are registered, will also remain.
37:58 Those who have overstatement, be it of any community, they will all go back.
38:03 That is why we have made this committee, that by doing one window operation,
38:06 we will finalize them, we will check them, we will go and search the area,
38:10 very peacefully, with all respect, but the only thing,
38:13 the Afghan government has a lot of responsibility.
38:16 If they tell us, that Pakistan should review, or reconsider their policy,
38:21 what demand do we have from Afghanistan?
38:24 Our only demand, very simple, and what all we have done for them, leave apart.
38:29 That you use your land, which you have committed to, on the French travel,
38:33 and use it for your own benefit.
38:36 This is it, just tell me, what have we done for you?
38:40 Can't you reconsider this? What do we do?
38:43 Now, the statement is coming, the Bitola bill, and after that,
38:46 the TPP, they are talking about one thing,
38:49 they are talking about Afghans, with Afghanistan.
38:52 You see, how many 1.5 crore are there, across, we have 4.5 crore.
38:58 Then, we have to go to Kabul, let us get the Pashtuns.
39:02 The Muslims, Catholics, Hazaras, Balochs, they all went to their areas,
39:06 then the Mullahs say, no more there.
39:08 Afghanistan needs, that you have a very big moral obligation.
39:12 What all we did for you, we never did.
39:15 The moral obligation, which you are saying,
39:16 the most important role on this, will have to be played by the Afghan government.
39:19 Thank you very much, Brigadier Rez Nawaz, Iftikhar Firdaus,
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