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Guests:
- Haji Ghulam Ali (Governor KPK)
- Ather Kazmi (Analyst)
- Amir Zia (Analyst)
- Dr Maleeha Lodhi (Former Ambassador)

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00:00 Assalam-o-Alaikum, I am Maria Maimon, Architect of Stoicism, Ulana Fazl-ur-Rehman.
00:14 There are concerns about the election.
00:16 They think that the weather will not be good in February and the election will not take place.
00:20 And even if the election takes place, it will not benefit the state.
00:24 We will talk about the new policy of Jamiatul Maslam.
00:30 We will talk about the level playing field.
00:32 Everyone is asking for it, but what is the real situation of the field?
00:36 People's Party is also in shock.
00:38 JOIF is also in shock.
00:39 Pakistan Tariq-e-Insaf is openly talking about political legitimization.
00:44 We will talk about this in the second part of the program.
00:46 Finally, we will talk about the Palestinian peace.
00:48 The recent fight is increasing in the region.
00:52 The Biden peace deal was a big loss.
00:57 We will talk about this in the last part of the program.
00:59 Let's start.
01:00 The election date was not given by the Election Commission of Pakistan.
01:04 But the week has been given an indication that the election can be held in the last week of January.
01:10 There is controversy about the date of this election.
01:14 There is also controversy about what kind of election will be held.
01:18 Maulana Fazor Rehman has been vocal about the election.
01:24 He says that even if the elections are held in January or February,
01:29 the state is facing challenges and the election is not the solution.
01:35 Yesterday, he repeated this in a meeting.
01:38 Everyone said that people are busy preparing for the election,
01:42 but no one is thinking about the state.
01:45 Everyone is busy preparing for the election.
01:48 Everyone is thinking that they will win the next election.
01:50 But look at the situation.
01:52 You are worried about the election.
01:54 And your state is sinking.
01:56 The state is sinking.
01:58 There will be no benefit in holding the election.
02:00 The priorities of the campaign are not right.
02:04 This is the position of the JUIF.
02:08 Maulana Fazor Rehman was clarifying this.
02:11 He talked to the Pakistan People's Party, Bilawar Bhutto Zardari.
02:15 He was asked this question yesterday.
02:17 He said that the election is the solution to all problems.
02:20 There is no other solution.
02:22 I think all the politicians will say that the solution to all problems is elections.
02:32 I don't think so.
02:34 Why is Maulana Fazor Rehman saying that the elections will not be held in February?
02:39 He said that the weather will be very cold.
02:43 There will be snow in some areas.
02:45 Collecting the results of the election,
02:47 the arrival of voters,
02:49 and then the results will be formulated.
02:51 There will be a lot of problems.
02:53 So, the election cannot be held in February because it is very cold.
02:56 In the end of February, the weather will be good.
02:59 From Khuzdar to the whole of North, Kulujistan.
03:03 And then from our Waziristan to Chhatral.
03:06 From there to Swat, Shangla, Kohistan, Abbottabad, Murree.
03:11 These will be the days when there will be no population.
03:14 The population will not be able to go to their areas to vote.
03:20 So, this is not the first time that the vote is going to be held in Pakistan in the winter.
03:26 Let me tell you quickly that before this,
03:28 elections have been held in the country in February and its cold weather.
03:33 In 1970, elections were held in Pakistan.
03:36 Even then, it was winter.
03:38 In February 1985, elections were held in the country.
03:41 In November 1988, elections were held in Pakistan.
03:45 In February 1997, elections were held in the country.
03:51 In February 2008, the general election was held in Pakistan.
03:56 In December 2021, the local elections were held in Khair Pakhtunkhwa.
04:00 And in that, the JUIF was very successful.
04:02 In February 2022, the local elections were held in 13 districts of Khair Pakhtunkhwa.
04:09 So, the election commission in this country has the capacity to hold elections in February.
04:15 And this has happened in the past.
04:17 So, what will be different this time?
04:19 Apart from this, the level playing field is also discussed by Maulana Fazlur Rehman.
04:23 We will also talk about this.
04:25 The first part of the program is with us by Haji Ghulam Ali, Governor of Khair Pakhtunkhwa.
04:28 Thank you very much, Governor.
04:30 Let's give a clarification on January and February.
04:32 The administration of Khair Pakhtunkhwa has already held elections.
04:38 Why does it seem that if elections are held in January, they will face problems due to winter?
04:44 Is there a capacity of the administration of the province to hold elections in January or February?
04:49 In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
04:54 Thank you very much, Maria.
04:56 You have addressed an important topic today.
05:02 I thank you.
05:04 Look, there are different political parties in the country.
05:08 And their thinking is in agreement that the only solution to the current political situation in the country is this election.
05:23 Now, the thinking is different.
05:29 And if the head of a party is saying that elections in January and February cannot be held in half of the provinces of Khair Pakhtunkhwa,
05:47 that there will be snowfall, roads will be closed, etc.
05:53 This was their suggestion.
05:55 Now, to see this suggestion and to implement it is the job of the election commission and the government.
06:06 The Mullah has established a good tradition that the problems that are facing the Shahid, they have already told them.
06:20 Now, if they tell, who will implement it?
06:25 As you said, the elections have already been held.
06:37 But I did not understand the problem because last year, we have also taken out the 2022 election.
06:45 The JOIF took part in the elections in 2021 and 2022.
06:55 The problem is that where did this winter factor come from?
06:58 Because when you say that it will be winter, it seems that the elections are being held on time.
07:03 Because it is not factually correct.
07:05 It is not like that. You are saying that the data you have will be correct.
07:15 But I want to tell you myself, you can check it yourself, that from September, from November, from the next month to March, all the areas of Naran, Kaghan will be closed.
07:38 And there will be no traffic on it.
07:42 You can see, if you look at Kalam, if you look at the rest of the area, then this is one thing.
07:51 You will have to find some way to get the election done.
07:55 If you take the ballot paper at that time and you cannot reach there, then it is a big misfortune for us and our country.
08:06 Sir, the ballot paper reached in 2008, the results came, the results came, the results came in 2022, the results came, the results came.
08:16 So I don't understand why it is good this time that the ballot paper did not reach, the roads were closed, while in the past they have had very successful elections.
08:23 You are right, you are right, but there is one thing, if a political leader says something, if a political leader of another party says something, then who will check his responsibility?
08:42 This is our provincial government, our institutions, they will check and say that what I am saying is accepted.
08:53 Then the Election Commission has given full authority to it and they are also saying that we will have elections, so there is no harm in it.
09:03 So it is difficult to judge someone's opinion, it should not be done.
09:08 But sir, as a governor of KP, what is your personal opinion? Because the date will also come in November, at the end of January or in the middle of February, the election should be done.
09:17 Can it be done? Is there so much capacity? Because obviously, when manpower is needed from the governments, then elections can be held in January or February, technically.
09:27 Look, now because the law, the constitution has given the authority to the Election Commission of Pakistan and it will give its opinion on this.
09:42 When I had this authority and you were asking me for a date, then this was my opinion. I wrote and sent, sent five letters. I said, check.
09:57 I am a political activist and I agree that elections are necessary for the improvement of the current political and economic situation.
10:12 I said in an interview a month ago that if elections are held before the lockdown, then people will say that the lockdown was not implemented for five years and the implementation of the constitution was not done.
10:34 So, even if a month is late, then the election commission said that we will have elections at the end of January.
10:42 Now, from the side of Mullah Fardaman or from the side of any other leader, if any suggestion comes from anywhere, then the election commission of Pakistan and the provincial government will sit on it and the institutions will also sit on it.
11:01 And in the future, we say that there should be a complete election in this country. Elections will be necessary.
11:08 Elections are necessary, complete. We are seeing a little more that the statements of Mullah Nath have changed a little.
11:16 A few months ago, in fact, I will tell you specifically, on July 21, 2022, Mullah Nath used to say that Imran Khan should be in jail.
11:24 Shabaz Sharif is taking a lot of patience. Now, what Mullah Nath says is different. He says that if you have closed my opponent, he cannot do political activity, then I am not enjoying it.
11:35 Let's listen to both statements and then ask you what has changed during this time.
11:41 Let's listen to Mullah Nath's statement a few months ago and today's statement.
11:45 I want every politician to be released from jail.
12:00 I have told the government, the day before yesterday I had a meeting, we will arrest every single criminal in Pakistan.
12:08 Shabaz Sharif is showing unnecessary decency.
12:15 Governor, in 2022, you showed decency, you did not arrest Imran Khan, you arrested him.
12:21 Now Mullah Nath is saying that you have put me in jail, I am not enjoying it.
12:24 What has changed in this situation? I don't understand how this change of heart has happened?
12:30 I think Mullah Nath can give a positive answer to this question.
12:39 Because this is his answer, his opinion.
12:43 But as far as I understand, he said in a political debate that my opponent,
12:51 who is my opponent, and if he is in jail, then I will not enjoy the competition.
13:00 So this is also a very open mirror for history.
13:04 He has shown that he is not in his right.
13:06 This is also his personal opinion.
13:09 Despite the fact that the person who is in jail, no one has put him in jail.
13:17 The law and the law of Pakistan has put him in jail.
13:22 There are cases on that.
13:24 If he is acquitted of the case, the court decides for him, then he can leave.
13:31 That is, no one can go inside or leave through anyone's cage.
13:37 This country works under a law, under the umbrella of a law.
13:43 If the court decides, we will also agree to it, everyone will agree.
13:48 But he had his own opinion and a good opinion.
13:51 He said that if there is a competition, then it should be in front.
13:54 It is not that I go to the cage for wrestling and the other is not there.
13:59 Then people will not think it is good.
14:02 So sir, do you think that the election of KP will not be fun without historical justice?
14:07 When historical justice was present, we had won the elections.
14:16 It is not like that.
14:18 But now historical justice has increased in so many branches.
14:23 And if the courts decide, I am sitting here as a lawyer.
14:30 I cannot talk politically.
14:32 If the court decides, no one can stop anyone.
14:37 Everyone decides for their case.
14:41 The Supreme Court of Pakistan has now reversed the NEP ordinance.
14:49 Now all people are presenting themselves.
14:53 So let them also present.
14:55 Whatever decision will be made, everyone will accept it.
14:57 Thank you very much.
14:58 We had with us Governor Ghulam Ali.
15:01 His personal opinion is that the elections are the solution to the challenges in Pakistan.
15:07 We will talk about this when we return.
15:10 PMLN has reached Sindh to give a tough challenge to the People's Party.
15:15 Zubair Umar says that the next government will be of PMLN.
15:17 We will talk about the break.
15:19 Welcome back.
15:22 We talk about the level playing field.
15:24 But who is on the field?
15:28 If we say that all the parties have entered the campaign mode.
15:31 Those who have a level playing field, it will not be wrong.
15:35 Let's start with Raja Riaz.
15:37 He was saying that he was roaming in the circle.
15:40 His observation was very interesting.
15:42 He says that he did not see any vote for IPP in the entire circle.
15:46 It is obvious that PMLN has a vote.
15:49 He says that there is a vote for PTI.
15:51 Because Imran Khan has done some magic.
15:53 He does not see any vote for the People's Party in his circle.
15:57 What did Raja Riaz say?
15:59 I am roaming in the circle.
16:02 I did not see a single vote for the Kham Party in the circle.
16:07 There is no vote for the People's Party in Punjab.
16:10 People who do not understand the history of justice.
16:14 Or our children.
16:16 Their minds are so much.
16:18 This man has done magic.
16:20 What is he doing?
16:22 I accept that he is a bit like Imran Khan.
16:28 So, according to Raja Riaz's calculation.
16:32 There is no scope of the People's Party in Punjab.
16:34 There is no scope of IPP.
16:36 On the other hand, PMLN is becoming very adventurous.
16:40 They have a strong focus on Sindh.
16:42 Zubair has said a political statement today.
16:46 Or he is in a good mood.
16:48 Or he is drawing a picture of the future.
16:52 He said that the next government will try to make PMLN in Sindh.
16:57 Zubair has made this claim.
16:59 We will compete with the People's Party in this election.
17:04 We will compete with the people.
17:06 We will make a promise to Karachi and Sindh.
17:09 If they vote for Muslim League Nawaz.
17:12 We will make Karachi like Lahore.
17:14 They can say.
17:16 We will make a photo and say that you are from Lahore.
17:18 And say the same thing.
17:20 You vote for Lahore.
17:22 I will make Lahore like Karachi.
17:24 I think everyone will understand that they are joking.
17:28 So, the election campaign is in full bloom.
17:31 Atar Kazmi and Amit Jaya are present in our program.
17:34 Who is on the field?
17:35 Who is off the field?
17:36 Who is playing the level?
17:37 Who is not?
17:38 Will the election be held in the last week of January or February?
17:43 Raja Raiyaz has said in my program that the election will be held in February.
17:47 And all the parties will agree and participate in the election.
17:50 Amit Jaya, let's start with you.
17:52 PMLN seems to be very active after the induction of Bashir Mewan.
17:55 In Sindh.
17:57 And their morale has increased.
17:59 What is the situation?
18:00 Do you think that PMLN will be able to put a dent in the People's Party?
18:05 As far as Sindh is concerned, there is no Noon League.
18:10 There is an example of salt in the flour, but it is not according to salt in the flour.
18:14 Because you know Karachi very well.
18:17 And those who know Karachi, they also understand the politics of Dehi Sindh.
18:20 You should understand that all the big employers, the electables,
18:24 are in the pocket of the Pakistan People's Party.
18:29 Apart from that, there is a traditional tradition of vote bank.
18:32 Which is related to the Gutto family.
18:34 Benazir Gutto Sahiba, Zulfiqar Ali Gutto.
18:37 And they are looking for the right or wrong in Bilawar Gutto.
18:41 And they are looking for their daughter, Asifa.
18:46 So I don't think anyone can challenge Dehi Sindh.
18:49 There is no Noon League there.
18:52 And you see that MQM, GDA and JUIF are trying to make an alliance.
18:58 And even if they make it, they will be able to compete a little.
19:02 I don't think the People's Party can be challenged in Dehi Sindh.
19:05 It doesn't mean that the People's Party's work is very effective.
19:09 But the phenomenon and politics there is such that
19:12 the People's Party has not yet come to the table in Dehi Sindh.
19:15 So if there is an election now,
19:18 then you see the People's Party government being formed in Sindh again?
19:22 I have no doubt that apart from the People's Party,
19:26 I don't think any other party, except GDA, can do anything in this.
19:30 Or the new alliance that has been formed.
19:32 I was just saying that in Shehri Sindh, there is no MQM movement.
19:36 There is no 90th Dehi Mutahidat Qaumi Movement in Pakistan.
19:39 PTI is a declining force. It has declined a lot.
19:43 So even though the MQM is better than 18,
19:46 we can guess that they will get some support from PTI.
19:52 But here the People's Party will probably gain in urban Sindh.
19:56 They have their mayor, he has come from anywhere.
19:59 There has been a lot of criticism, but they will gain.
20:02 I don't think that... Mr. Zubair speaks very moderately.
20:05 I think he is one of the rational politicians.
20:08 But he is very serious when it comes to Joshi Khitabat.
20:11 So we put these claims in the account of Joshi Khitabat.
20:15 But there is one more thing on this, Athar.
20:17 The People's Party is talking about the level playing field again and again.
20:20 In my opinion, the definition of level playing field is that
20:23 the level playing field should be the same as the one they got in the mayor's election.
20:27 In short of that, they think that level playing field is not there.
20:31 And maybe that facility is not there.
20:33 Still, they think that there can be some difficulties in Sindh.
20:36 Mr. Amit is very sure that the People's Party is the next government.
20:39 Basically, they are saying that we should also get the facilities that Noon League gets.
20:44 Or the one that was given in the mayor's election.
20:46 The one that was given in the mayor's election.
20:48 At that time, they had their own government.
20:50 And similarly, the one in Punjab or the Nigran government,
20:52 they get the impression that they are supporting Noon League.
20:55 But despite that, the position in which Noon League is in Punjab,
20:59 Pakistan People's Party is in a 1000% better position in Sindh.
21:03 Despite that, they will win the election.
21:06 There they will also make their own government.
21:09 Maybe they will have to unite with someone.
21:11 They will have to include another ally.
21:14 But they will make their own government.
21:16 On the other hand, Noon League is not in this position.
21:18 See, when Noon League talks about the level playing field, they do a comparison.
21:22 They compare that the facilities that Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf got in 2018,
21:29 maybe they are now giving to Noon League.
21:31 This is a completely wrong comparison.
21:33 When Khawaja Asif was losing in 2018,
21:37 who did he call at night?
21:39 And what is the condition of PTI at the moment?
21:42 Can PTI call anyone?
21:44 They are hiding.
21:46 They don't answer our calls.
21:48 I think the facilities that are available to PTI and Noon League,
21:52 if PTI gets the 10% of it,
21:55 then they will be very satisfied with it.
21:58 But despite all the problems,
22:00 I don't think there is much problem in Pakistan People's Party in Sindh.
22:03 So, we have understood that they are making such claims in the mood of an election campaign.
22:08 But the situation in Punjab at the moment,
22:11 I heard Raja Riaz's point that it is a sample set.
22:15 In which he said that there is no vote for IPP,
22:18 there is a vote for PTI, there is a vote for PMLN,
22:20 there is no vote for People's Party.
22:22 So, the distribution of votes, Amir sahib,
22:25 will PMLN take advantage of this?
22:28 Will they get a chance to take up all the powers of the present situation?
22:35 If you see, if PTI 2 is broken and there is no ingress of People's Party,
22:42 as much as they claim in Punjab,
22:45 then it seems that Noon League should be taken up.
22:47 But I have a little doubt.
22:49 Because at the moment,
22:51 Noon League has no vision to sell anything.
22:55 And even today, if you listen to Mariam sahiba's speech,
22:58 I was very surprised that the biggest news of the world today,
23:01 is what is happening in Palestine and Israel.
23:04 Everyone knows that the way the trackdown is being done,
23:07 and the Palestinians are being martyred,
23:09 and the world is being attacked,
23:11 and it will have a far-reaching effect.
23:13 You see, she calls herself a leader of the national level,
23:16 and Mariam sahiba did not even mention it.
23:18 The leader of the Noon League,
23:20 which wants to become the Jamaat of the future,
23:22 which wants to become the government,
23:24 or the heir to the throne,
23:26 she had nothing to say.
23:28 So, I think it was very shocking for me,
23:30 that she did not talk about this.
23:32 Then, the statements she gave,
23:34 she said that the milk and honey were flowing,
23:36 when Nawaz Sharif sahib was the Prime Minister,
23:38 and when his government was finished,
23:40 Pakistan had the biggest balance of payment crisis in its history.
23:45 So, today, the energy sector is in a bad state,
23:48 and its responsibility is on the Noon League.
23:50 Similarly, you see, whoever...
23:52 But, Nawaz sahib, let's simplify this a little.
23:55 You see, these technical things,
23:57 you understand, some of us understand.
23:59 They are telling the common man,
24:01 that in 2016, the price at which you used to buy food,
24:04 today in 2023, at what price are you buying food?
24:07 So, in 2016, when a common man will see these basic things,
24:12 he will say that,
24:14 at that time, I used to get food for 6 rupees,
24:16 today it is for this much.
24:18 So, don't you think that their message is simplified,
24:20 dumbed down, and brought them to the common man level?
24:22 See, the common people are simple,
24:24 but they are not so stupid.
24:26 If I say that,
24:28 the rate of dollar in the time of Musharraf sahib,
24:30 and the food that was available in his time,
24:32 and in his time,
24:34 the economic growth was 7%,
24:37 then how will you compare?
24:39 So, the thing is that,
24:41 the world commodity prices were very low,
24:43 they used to be very low.
24:45 And, the kind of projects they put up,
24:47 instead of that, the economy suffered a loss.
24:50 You cannot put up a project on borrowed money.
24:53 And, they did the same.
24:55 As a result, Pakistan was hit by debt.
24:58 Our energy sector was hit.
25:00 And, I think, when people will come out on the campaign,
25:03 I am saying this as an old ally of theirs,
25:05 but the last thing,
25:07 the 16 months of their activities,
25:09 their economic vision,
25:11 which is depicted,
25:13 is the face of Ishaq Dar sahib,
25:15 Samji sahib.
25:17 So, the activities that Samji sahib did in the 16 months,
25:19 after that,
25:21 you think,
25:23 ifrat-e-zar, it went up to 40%.
25:25 If there is a villain in Pakistan,
25:27 it is Ishaq Dar sahib.
25:29 What is middle class?
25:31 You are right.
25:33 But, in the meantime,
25:35 the level playing field,
25:37 there are some changes in the situation.
25:39 Molana Fazlur Rehman sahib,
25:41 I want to show you this.
25:43 On 21st July, 2022,
25:45 Molana sahib wanted to arrest
25:47 his political opponent, Imran Khan sahib.
25:49 And, yesterday, Molana sahib
25:51 expressed his desire that
25:53 his opponents are in jail,
25:55 so, they did not enjoy the election.
25:57 So, by putting his opponents in jail,
25:59 he did not want to put them in jail.
26:01 The contradictions in the statements
26:03 of Molana Fazlur Rehman sahib,
26:05 listen to this.
26:07 The one I fight with,
26:09 his hands should be open,
26:11 and mine should be open.
26:13 If my opponent is in jail,
26:15 and I give a speech against him,
26:17 it is not fun.
26:19 I want all politicians to come out of jail.
26:21 I have told the government,
26:23 we had a meeting yesterday,
26:25 that we will put the international thieves
26:27 in jail one by one.
26:29 This is a very unnecessary
26:31 and unethical thing to do.
26:33 I am a doctor,
26:35 I should be put in jail.
26:37 What is this change of heart,
26:39 can you decipher the difference
26:41 between the earlier statement
26:43 and the one you are making today?
26:45 Earlier, he knew that he is out of jail,
26:47 and he wanted to be put in jail.
26:49 And, now, when he said that,
26:51 he also said that we should pay
26:53 more attention to the state,
26:55 and he also said that he also
26:57 understood the situation.
26:59 The ground reality is that
27:01 if these elections are fought,
27:03 the situation is clear.
27:05 Now, he is saying that
27:07 he should be thrown out of the country,
27:09 and he should come back to the field.
27:11 This is just a political statement,
27:13 it could be a dialogue,
27:15 but nothing more than that.
27:17 On the other hand,
27:19 look at the condition of both these
27:21 parties.
27:23 In these elections,
27:25 it could be a problem
27:27 for Moulana and Nawaz Sharif.
27:29 Isn't the Noon League wipeout
27:31 a bit too much?
27:33 I agree with you on the JUI.
27:35 Let me give you an example.
27:37 If Noon League loses
27:39 5 out of 8 seats,
27:41 this is the Lahore
27:43 on which Noon League
27:45 has to do its politics.
27:47 If Noon League is dreaming
27:49 of power next time,
27:51 then why should they be?
27:53 They will not get any seat in KPK,
27:55 they will not get any seat in Sindh,
27:57 the way they are being
27:58 promoted in Balochistan,
27:59 that is a different matter.
28:01 But are they in a position
28:03 to form a government in Punjab?
28:05 Are they in a position to win seats in Lahore?
28:07 So, politically, this will be
28:09 almost a wipeout for them
28:11 if they do not come to Punjab.
28:13 Secondly, look at their Lahore Jalsa.
28:15 We see that Mansoor is being
28:17 announced, Nazriya is being announced.
28:19 First of all, we got to know
28:21 what the menu is,
28:23 tables are set up.
28:25 You can guess from this,
28:27 they will also know that
28:29 people will make fun of us.
28:31 But this is desperation.
28:33 This is the desperation that
28:35 they have set up a table
28:37 in front of 24 crore people
28:39 to come and eat.
28:41 Look, they have brought
28:43 Bashir Mehman with them,
28:45 they could have brought him
28:47 with them.
28:49 In the coming months,
28:51 the situation could change,
28:53 the mood could change,
28:55 that is a different matter.
28:57 But at this time,
28:59 Noon League and JUIF are
29:01 in the most difficult position
29:03 politically, and that is why
29:05 both the parties are putting
29:07 more pressure on the elections.
29:09 But the votes that have been
29:11 distributed, it did not happen
29:13 in KP. Today, we saw Khattak
29:15 coming here with a lot of anger.
29:17 If there is a candidate,
29:19 he will definitely go.
29:21 If there is no candidate,
29:23 at least he will not go.
29:25 So he will sit quietly?
29:27 And the one who is getting
29:29 votes will come up?
29:31 Yes, he will come up,
29:33 but what will happen
29:35 in the election?
29:37 If there is a 5 lakh vote
29:39 and you have won 10,000 votes,
29:41 the one in which MNA used
29:43 to win, will he come up?
29:45 We have seen such elections in Karachi,
29:47 they have been accepted,
29:49 the basis of which has been made,
29:51 it is Pakistan, anything can happen here.
29:53 We will go on the break,
29:55 we will come back, the tension between
29:57 Palestine and Israel is increasing.
29:59 We will talk about this in the
30:01 next episode of the program.
30:03 Welcome back, in the next episode
30:05 of the program, we will talk about
30:07 the tension between Palestine and
30:09 Israel, which is increasing.
30:11 A major reaction is also coming
30:13 from the state of Israel.
30:15 The Prime Minister Netanyahu
30:17 has announced a formal war.
30:19 Meanwhile, the reaction of
30:21 the OIC is also in front of us.
30:23 Let me tell you what position
30:25 the OIC has taken on this.
30:27 The OIC says that they are
30:29 worried about the tense situation
30:31 and the Israeli attack on Palestine.
30:33 The Forum is adamant about
30:35 martyring innocent Palestinians
30:37 in the Israeli attack.
30:39 The OIC calls Israel responsible
30:41 for the situation, because the
30:43 Israeli attack on Palestinians
30:45 is creating a situation of
30:47 instability due to the
30:49 daily attacks and criminal
30:51 activities. The OIC and
30:53 the Security Council should
30:55 play their role in stopping
30:57 the Israeli invasion and
30:59 solving the problem.
31:01 The Chinese OIC has also
31:03 responded to this.
31:05 They say that China is worried
31:07 about the situation and
31:09 that this problem can be
31:11 solved by a two-state solution.
31:13 A free Palestinian state
31:15 will solve the problem.
31:17 For this, the international
31:19 community will have to
31:21 take immediate action.
31:23 The international community
31:25 will have to try to reach
31:27 a peace agreement between
31:29 Palestine and Israel.
31:31 What will be the impact
31:33 of the new Arab-Israeli
31:35 relationship?
31:37 We will talk about all these
31:39 issues in the program.
31:41 Before that, let's listen to
31:43 the Saudi efforts to reach
31:45 a peace agreement.
31:47 Mohammed bin Salman himself
31:49 acknowledged this.
31:51 What were the efforts and
31:53 the progress?
31:55 The Saudi OIC said that the
32:09 United States has approached
32:11 them and the talks are moving
32:13 forward. They are making
32:15 progress with the past
32:17 days. When the Israeli
32:19 Prime Minister Netanyahu was
32:21 asked this question, he said
32:23 that there is a dramatic
32:25 breakthrough.
32:27 What words did he use
32:29 to describe this breakthrough
32:31 or the agreement?
32:33 The Saudi OIC said that the
32:35 Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu
32:37 was asking this question. What
32:39 words did he use to describe
32:41 this breakthrough or the
32:43 agreement?
32:45 The Saudi OIC said that the
32:59 Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu
33:01 was asking this question. What
33:03 words did he use to describe
33:05 this breakthrough or the
33:07 agreement?
33:09 The Wall Street Journal reported that
33:19 Saudi Arabia has sent a message to
33:21 the United States that it will increase
33:23 the production of oil if the prices
33:25 increase in the beginning of the
33:27 new year. The Saudi OIC said that
33:29 the purpose of this decision is to
33:31 reach a peace agreement with Israel.
33:33 The Saudi OIC said that the
33:35 Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu
33:37 was asking this question. What
33:39 words did he use to describe
33:41 this breakthrough or the
33:43 agreement? The Saudi OIC said
33:45 that the Israeli Prime Minister
33:47 Netanyahu was asking this question.
33:49 What words did he use to describe
33:51 this breakthrough or the
33:53 agreement? The Saudi OIC said
33:55 that the Israeli Prime Minister
33:57 Netanyahu was asking this question.
33:59 The Saudi OIC said that the
34:01 Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu
34:03 was asking this question. What
34:05 words did he use to describe
34:07 this breakthrough or the
34:09 agreement? The Saudi OIC said
34:11 that the Israeli Prime Minister
34:13 Netanyahu was asking this question.
34:15 What words did he use to describe
34:17 this breakthrough or the
34:19 agreement? The Saudi OIC said
34:21 that the Israeli Prime Minister
34:23 Netanyahu was asking this question.
34:25 What words did he use to describe
34:27 this breakthrough or the
34:29 agreement? The Saudi OIC said
34:31 that the Israeli Prime Minister
34:33 Netanyahu was asking this question.
34:35 What words did he use to describe
34:37 this breakthrough or the
34:39 agreement? The Saudi OIC said
34:41 that the Israeli Prime Minister
34:43 Netanyahu was asking this question.
34:45 What words did he use to describe
34:47 this breakthrough or the
34:49 agreement? The Saudi OIC said
34:51 that the Israeli Prime Minister
34:53 Netanyahu was asking this question.
34:55 What words did he use to describe
34:57 this breakthrough or the
34:59 agreement? The Saudi OIC said
35:01 that the Israeli Prime Minister
35:03 Netanyahu was asking this question.
35:05 What words did he use to describe
35:07 this breakthrough or the
35:09 agreement? The Saudi OIC said
35:11 that the Israeli Prime Minister
35:13 Netanyahu was asking this question.
35:15 What words did he use to describe
35:17 this breakthrough or the
35:19 agreement? The Saudi OIC said
35:21 that the Israeli Prime Minister
35:23 Netanyahu was asking this question.
35:25 What words did he use to describe
35:27 this breakthrough or the
35:29 agreement? The Saudi OIC said
35:31 that the Israeli Prime Minister
35:33 Netanyahu was asking this question.
35:35 What words did he use to describe
35:37 this breakthrough or the
35:39 agreement? The Saudi OIC said
35:41 that the Israeli Prime Minister
35:43 Netanyahu was asking this question.
35:45 What words did he use to describe
35:47 this breakthrough or the
35:49 agreement? The Saudi OIC said
35:51 that the Israeli Prime Minister
35:53 Netanyahu was asking this question.
35:55 What words did he use to describe
35:57 this breakthrough or the
35:59 agreement? The Saudi OIC said
36:01 that the Israeli Prime Minister
36:03 Netanyahu was asking this question.
36:05 What words did he use to describe
36:07 this breakthrough or the
36:09 agreement? The Saudi OIC said
36:11 that the Israeli Prime Minister
36:13 Netanyahu was asking this question.
36:15 What words did he use to describe
36:17 this breakthrough or the
36:19 agreement? The Saudi OIC said
36:21 that the Israeli Prime Minister
36:23 Netanyahu was asking this question.
36:25 What words did he use to describe
36:27 this breakthrough or the
36:29 agreement? The Saudi OIC said
36:31 that the Israeli Prime Minister
36:33 Netanyahu was asking this question.
36:35 What words did he use to describe
36:37 this breakthrough or the
36:39 agreement? The Saudi OIC said
36:41 that the Israeli Prime Minister
36:43 Netanyahu was asking this question.
36:45 What words did he use to describe
36:47 this breakthrough or the
36:49 agreement? The Saudi OIC said
36:51 that the Israeli Prime Minister
36:53 Netanyahu was asking this question.
36:55 What words did he use to describe
36:57 this breakthrough or the
36:59 agreement? The Saudi OIC said
37:01 that the Israeli Prime Minister
37:03 Netanyahu was asking this question.
37:05 What words did he use to describe
37:07 this breakthrough or the
37:09 agreement? The Saudi OIC said
37:11 that the Israeli Prime Minister
37:13 Netanyahu was asking this question.
37:15 What words did he use to describe
37:17 this breakthrough or the
37:19 agreement? The Saudi OIC said
37:21 that the Israeli Prime Minister
37:23 Netanyahu was asking this question.
37:25 What words did he use to describe
37:27 this breakthrough or the
37:29 agreement? The Saudi OIC said
37:31 that the Israeli Prime Minister
37:33 Netanyahu was asking this question.
37:35 What words did he use to describe
37:37 this breakthrough or the
37:39 agreement? The Saudi OIC said
37:41 that the Israeli Prime Minister
37:43 Netanyahu was asking this question.
37:45 What words did he use to describe
37:47 this breakthrough or the
37:49 agreement? The Saudi OIC said
37:51 that the Israeli Prime Minister
37:53 Netanyahu was asking this question.
37:55 The UN has a huge responsibility
37:57 on the Palestinian
37:59 resolution.
38:01 The UN is in the hands of the
38:03 big powers.
38:05 Will the big powers reach
38:07 an agreement
38:09 to de-escalate?
38:11 Will there be a
38:13 stalemate or a deadlock?
38:15 Or will they just
38:17 give a statement and wash their
38:19 hands of it?
38:21 I don't know.
38:23 But if there is an initiative
38:25 to de-escalate or to reach an agreement,
38:27 it will be from the UN Security
38:29 Council.
38:31 Do you know that I have heard
38:33 a statement from the MBS
38:35 about peace talks.
38:37 Netanyahu was saying that
38:39 more countries will join
38:41 this bandwagon.
38:43 We will see from the Middle East
38:45 that a peace deal
38:47 will be initiated.
38:49 Saudi Arabia played a very important role in it.
38:51 Do you think that the peace deal
38:53 has been sabotaged?
38:55 I will not use the word
38:57 sabotage. But I will say
38:59 that the situation has developed
39:01 and there is no question
39:03 that any Muslim country
39:05 including Saudi Arabia
39:07 should try to
39:09 make relations with Israel.
39:11 I think that
39:13 the so-called Middle East deal
39:15 of Biden
39:17 has been a failure.
39:19 It has come to a halt.
39:21 Thank you.
39:23 Malia Lodi was with us.
39:25 It seems that
39:27 the situation has become
39:29 a mess.
39:31 The program has come to an end.

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