The Blind Movie Podcast Ep 4
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00:00 This is Ms. Kay.
00:01 The Robertson family is telling it all in our new movie,
00:05 The Blind.
00:06 Here's the next episode of The Blind Movie Podcast
00:10 with the women my four boys married.
00:13 - Hey guys, my name is Jill Dasher.
00:24 I'm married to Zach Dasher, who wrote the story
00:28 of The Blind and produced The Blind.
00:30 It has always been in his heart dream,
00:33 I don't know how you say that,
00:34 to tell this story of his mom,
00:37 which you'll find out the role she plays
00:39 if you watch the film, and his uncle, Phil and Aunt Kay.
00:42 And so I'm honored to have the privilege
00:45 to have walked alongside this beautiful family
00:48 for many, many years.
00:49 And I'm sitting here today with the Duck Wives
00:53 without the guys.
00:54 So, you know, no telling what is gonna come out
00:57 on today's podcast,
00:59 because they're not gonna be interrupted by their men.
01:01 So I'm here with Lisa and Missy and Corey and Jessica,
01:06 and we are gonna have a tell all session, okay?
01:11 So I was thinking about what I wanted to ask you guys,
01:13 and you know, we've been in y'all's lives,
01:16 well, actually, I'll say the world has been
01:19 a part of y'all's lives since you've been married.
01:22 But they didn't see a peek into the dating years
01:26 of y'all's lives.
01:27 And so what I wanna ask is,
01:29 what was it like to date a Robertson man?
01:32 - Lisa, you started this whole thing off,
01:37 so you go first. - That's right, that's right.
01:39 It was very intimidating,
01:43 especially whenever I would go to their house or anything,
01:48 'cause I don't know, Phil was just Phil, you know?
01:53 And, but then he had the,
01:56 I call 'em his snot-nosed little brothers,
01:59 'cause that's what they were.
02:00 They were, you know, younger. - I know.
02:02 You don't think that was a jab, maybe jab.
02:04 But, you know, it was, I don't know,
02:09 it's what America sees, it's that family,
02:12 that all-together family.
02:14 And every time I went,
02:16 I had an older brother and an older sister
02:18 who were already left home.
02:20 And so I got to see what a family interaction looked like,
02:25 you know?
02:27 And then Granny and Paul lived there.
02:29 And so it was just, I mean, one big happy family.
02:33 And the food was great.
02:35 And so I had a great time. - So Al was just
02:38 kind of a bonus.
02:39 You loved the family, Al, you know.
02:42 - Yeah, yeah.
02:43 And he was so stinking good-looking.
02:45 It was just, oh my word.
02:47 So, yeah, I mean, he was,
02:50 he was my everything at that point.
02:56 But then whenever I met the family,
02:58 it was like, wow, I could, you know,
03:01 I could have all of this, yeah.
03:03 So, yeah.
03:04 - All right, what about Jace?
03:05 Was he a romancer?
03:07 Like, what was dating Jace like?
03:09 I can't even.
03:10 - Well, so, well, he had an old gold truck.
03:13 And I said, that's the only gold he ever had.
03:15 And I loved it because it had a bench seat
03:16 and I could slide all the way over to him.
03:19 So I wanted that gold truck on the dates.
03:21 When I was dating Jace, Willie was around
03:25 and they would fight over the Nissan truck,
03:28 which was a little small cab truck
03:32 'cause it was the nicer one.
03:34 And so I knew who won the fight
03:36 whenever Jace would pull up in the gold truck,
03:38 which was my favorite
03:39 'cause I could sit all the way towards him,
03:41 but he wanted that little Nissan cab truck.
03:43 And I was like, well, and when he would pull up in that,
03:46 I knew Willie lost that one.
03:49 - And that Nissan truck.
03:51 - I think it was Si's.
03:53 - Originally?
03:54 - I think Si left that truck down there.
03:55 - I always say that they never sell cars.
03:58 It just moves to somebody else
03:59 until it eventually dies and they get rid of it.
04:03 But it really just moves from family member to family member.
04:06 - But Lisa, I was attracted to the whole family
04:09 once I started dating Jace.
04:10 And I remember the first time I drove out to their house
04:13 during the daytime and it was 30 minutes away from town.
04:17 And I thought, this is forever.
04:19 But seeing all of the nature and the trees,
04:23 I thought, I didn't even know this was around here
04:25 in West Monroe because I grew up in town, in the city.
04:29 And so, but getting stuck out there in an ice storm
04:34 or a flood was the best thing
04:38 because everybody, it seemed,
04:40 it was like ants on a hill.
04:41 Everybody seemed to gravitate towards that house
04:44 because there was food, there was laughter,
04:46 there was fellowship, there was good times,
04:48 and there was nothing else
04:50 'cause they had nothing else but each other
04:53 and just a few places to sit and lay down.
04:55 That was it.
04:56 Plenty of pots and pans.
04:58 Pantry was always full somehow,
05:00 but you weren't there for all of what you would think
05:04 that you would be going to someone's house for.
05:06 - There was no fluff.
05:07 It was the relationships.
05:07 - Oh no, there was no fluff.
05:09 - I love that.
05:10 - The only fluff was dirt and grime.
05:12 (laughing)
05:14 - Little duster in there.
05:16 - I love that.
05:17 But it didn't matter 'cause that's where you wanted to be.
05:20 - I was in fifth grade the first time
05:21 I ever went down there.
05:22 I had met Willie at summer camp the year before
05:25 and thought he was so cute.
05:26 I remember seeing him across the way,
05:27 his dimples and everything.
05:29 And he didn't have a beard yet.
05:30 He was third grade.
05:31 But I thought he was so cute.
05:34 - In the third grade.
05:35 - And I'll never forget, he asked me on the Moonlight Hike
05:37 and I was so excited.
05:39 But then I didn't see him 'cause he lived in the country
05:42 and I lived in the city, whatever, West Monroe, the city.
05:44 But I went down there because they were having a fish fry
05:47 and that was something that they did
05:48 and they didn't have a lot of money at that time,
05:51 but they always were so generous and so hospitable
05:54 and they would go catch a mess of fish
05:56 and have a big fish fry and invite the church down.
05:58 And I remember being so excited and I walked in
06:01 and I saw Phil for the first time
06:03 and he looks exactly like you would imagine.
06:05 White T-shirt, camo pants, big black beard.
06:08 It was black, not gray.
06:10 And I'll never forget walking up to him, my friend and I,
06:13 and he said, "Have you met my boys,
06:15 Willie Jess and Jason Silas?"
06:16 And we're like, "Yes, sir."
06:18 And he said, "They're gonna make good husbands someday."
06:22 And we were in fifth grade when he says this.
06:23 He's like pitching his science stuff.
06:25 And he's like, "They're gonna make good husbands."
06:26 He said, "They're good fishermen, they're good hunters,
06:28 they're gonna be good providers."
06:30 And I remember thinking,
06:31 well, I just thought Willie was cute, but okay,
06:34 that's a good thing.
06:35 - That's a good criteria there.
06:37 - And so yeah, I just remember just coming into that house
06:40 and it just being exactly like you explained,
06:43 just warm and plenty of food and lots of laughter.
06:47 And Willie did weird things to impress me.
06:49 He ate sardines out of a can
06:52 and I thought that was so weird.
06:54 You do?
06:55 - Yeah.
06:56 - I thought that was so weird.
06:56 I was like, "Who eats sardines out of a can?"
06:58 But all this just crazy stuff
07:00 because they really just lived a really simple life
07:04 and there was an attraction to that.
07:06 And then dating Willie,
07:08 whenever my senior year we started dating
07:11 and about three months before we decided
07:13 we were getting married.
07:14 It didn't take long.
07:14 You knew.
07:15 - I love it, I love it.
07:17 Just quick, when you know, you know.
07:18 - That's right.
07:19 - Now Jessica, it's funny because we actually met
07:22 right when you and Jep started dating.
07:25 And because I remember Zach and Jep,
07:27 you know, they're cousins,
07:28 they were known as the cute Christian cousins.
07:30 That was their tagline.
07:33 And I remember Jep came up to Harding
07:37 to visit Zach, my husband.
07:39 And he was going on and on about this,
07:42 "Oh, she's beautiful.
07:44 "She's the prettiest woman I've ever,
07:45 "y'all gotta meet her."
07:46 And of course he was talking about you.
07:48 And so I got to peek into a little bit
07:50 of y'all's dating relationship.
07:52 - Which was really short.
07:54 Mine was way different than y'all.
07:55 - Share with the world what that was like.
07:57 - Yeah, so when Jep and I met,
08:00 I mean, we didn't date for very long,
08:02 but we met, I guess it was 2001.
08:06 We met in February, quickly knew how much
08:09 he and all his friends loved Jesus.
08:11 And I don't know if everybody else does,
08:15 but after one night of them sharing the gospel,
08:17 I was like, "I need to be baptized."
08:20 They were like, "Well, let's keep studying."
08:21 I was like, "No, I need to be baptized now."
08:24 And so they were like, "Okay."
08:25 So we went into a local neighborhood in a pond.
08:29 Later on, I don't know why I didn't think
08:30 about snakes or gators or anything,
08:33 but Jep baptized me.
08:34 And at the time, we were just barely friends.
08:37 I did not know he would soon become my husband,
08:42 but that was in February.
08:44 We met in February, March, he baptized me,
08:46 and I started going to White Sea Road and never left.
08:49 And then we started dating in June.
08:51 We got married in October.
08:52 So it was really quick.
08:54 I didn't really know him very well,
08:56 but I just knew how much he loved Jesus.
08:58 And I knew there was just this friendship
09:00 and companionship and kindred spirit I had with him.
09:03 And one thing that I love and I really think
09:06 that drew me to Jep is the way he was
09:09 with his mama, with Miss Kay.
09:11 And so I knew he was just the kindest, sweetest man.
09:15 And just the way they would tickle each other
09:18 and love each other, even now when we go on vacations,
09:20 he piles in next to Kay and holds her hand
09:22 and watches movies still to this day.
09:24 And that was one thing that really,
09:27 it stood apart for me.
09:28 It wasn't like this big manly man,
09:30 even though he loved to do guy things
09:32 and hunt and fish and everything.
09:34 But there was just this sweetness about him
09:37 that I saw when he was with his mama.
09:38 - I love that so much.
09:40 (gentle music)
09:42 - Phil Robertson here.
09:46 You're listening to the Blind Movie Podcast.
09:50 And I want you to come out and see the blind
09:53 in theaters starting September the 28th.
09:56 When you see it, you'll know that redemption
09:59 isn't out of reach for anyone.
10:02 Get your tickets today at theblindmovie.com.
10:07 (gentle music)
10:10 - Think back through your dating, through your marriage,
10:17 because I don't know when this happened for you guys,
10:19 but when, or do you remember finding out
10:23 about the fuller story of Kay and Phil?
10:26 Like, when do you remember getting
10:28 the backstory of those tough years?
10:32 Was it just something you heard about in stories
10:35 as you dated, or was there this moment
10:37 where you remember hearing about that?
10:40 Kind of share like how you came to know the Phil and Kay
10:45 before they were the Phil and Kay that you guys met.
10:48 - I can start with that because of Aunt Jan.
10:52 So Jan was my fourth grade teacher
10:55 at our local Christian school here.
10:57 And she was my favorite teacher of all time.
11:00 And she's the only one that paddled me.
11:02 (all laughing)
11:04 I can believe that.
11:05 But I loved her, I loved her quirkiness,
11:11 I loved her passion for everything that she taught us.
11:15 And I loved her crazy, weirded out husband
11:17 that would come in and make us all super,
11:19 like laugh at everything.
11:21 We were having a bad day, or Jan was having a bad day,
11:24 Gordon would pop in and make every tension disappear.
11:29 And so we could not wait for those Gordon pop-ins.
11:31 And getting to know Jace when I was dating,
11:35 I would hear him talk about his Aunt Jan, Aunt Jan.
11:39 And I was like, "Oh, I knew a Jan one time."
11:43 And the more he talked about her,
11:45 one time he said, "Gordon."
11:47 And I was like, "Huh, that's weird.
11:49 "I know a Jan and Gordon."
11:52 And I mean, we've been dating a year or so,
11:55 and I didn't know anything about their relationship.
11:58 And when I found that out,
11:59 it was almost like the nail in the coffin for me.
12:02 I'm like, "I'm in, I'm in with this family because of Jan."
12:07 So when I realized that more stories started coming out,
12:10 'cause I started asking a lot of questions,
12:12 that's when I started learning about the relationship
12:15 with Jan and Bill and Kay,
12:17 and how she really is the one who brought him
12:21 the message of Jesus,
12:23 and that Phil responded to her, and then to Bill Smith.
12:27 And so I knew her, I admired her more because of that,
12:32 but then I really started asking Jace more about,
12:37 his childhood, his life,
12:39 because I didn't know all of that.
12:42 I grew up in a very sheltered church environment.
12:44 My mom was a music teacher and my dad was a preacher,
12:48 and I was very sheltered and very secure.
12:52 And then to start understanding that my boyfriend,
12:56 Beyonce husband, grew up in an environment
12:59 that was completely the opposite of mine.
13:03 I'd heard those stories of people,
13:05 I didn't know any of them.
13:08 And so it was very chilling for me to hear
13:13 those words coming from him.
13:17 Phil was not a real warm and fuzzy guy then,
13:20 and so having conversations with Phil about that
13:24 was not really happening.
13:26 It was just getting it from Jace.
13:28 And so that's why I said this in the group podcast,
13:32 hearing Jace's perspective,
13:36 and then hearing Kay's perspective,
13:37 and now hearing Phil's own perspective
13:41 of the trauma and the pain that he inflicted on his family,
13:45 and how God redeemed that,
13:47 has been an amazing journey for me to watch
13:50 and see and learn from.
13:51 - That's incredible, I didn't know that.
13:53 I did not know that Jan was your teacher.
13:55 - Oh my goodness, really?
13:57 - I know, I'm tearing up as you're sharing that story.
14:00 - Well, I'll give you one more little nugget then,
14:02 because when I was in the fourth grade,
14:06 Phil and Kay visited our church, White's Prairie Road,
14:10 and I found this out years later.
14:12 Jan turned to Jace, who was visiting with them,
14:15 and pointed me out and said,
14:17 "You see that girl right there?
14:19 "You're gonna marry her one day."
14:20 - I believe that.
14:21 (laughing)
14:23 Jan, that is exactly the kind of woman she was.
14:27 And y'all listening to this podcast,
14:28 you're hearing names like Jan and Bill Smith,
14:30 and you've gotta watch The Blind
14:32 if you wanna know who those characters are, right?
14:36 Thank you so much for sharing that.
14:38 Any of you guys have any additions
14:40 to just finding out about those stories?
14:43 - I didn't know, so one of Jep's,
14:45 his first pickup line when he first introduced himself
14:49 is, "I'm Jep Robertson."
14:51 I was like, "Yeah, I'm Jessica."
14:52 He goes, "My dad's the duck commander."
14:54 And I was like, "I don't know what a duck commander is."
14:58 He goes, "You don't know Phil Robertson?"
15:00 I was like, "No, I don't know Phil Robertson."
15:03 And so I grew up in a hunting family,
15:05 but we deer hunted mainly,
15:08 and they very rarely ever duck hunted.
15:11 So I didn't know who Phil Robertson was.
15:13 I'd never heard of the name.
15:14 And so that was his first pickup line that like,
15:17 "Yeah, was a big wop, yeah."
15:20 He was like, "I don't know what to say after that."
15:22 But so I didn't know really until after we got married
15:26 and I started going down there, we had one vehicle.
15:28 So it was either go to work with Jep and sit down there
15:31 and watch Kay Cooke and answer phones
15:33 or sit at home by myself.
15:35 And so I would go down there and do that.
15:36 And that's really where I learned their history
15:39 and just basically their love story
15:42 and the commitment and just seeing that.
15:46 - I love that.
15:47 Love it.
15:48 So for me, our family stories,
15:51 what's really crazy is our family stories intertwine
15:54 like way before we even knew.
15:56 And that's part of the movie too.
15:57 Like there's a little nod to it in the film,
16:00 but I feel like one,
16:02 Phil and Kay have always just been really open
16:04 and vulnerable about their life and their struggles
16:06 so that it can help other people.
16:08 And I think as we all came in as wives,
16:10 like Kay really was just so open with her stories
16:14 and her struggles and all the things.
16:16 And it helped us to be able to be open
16:19 about the things that we're going through
16:21 and talk to her or talk to somebody about it,
16:23 which I think was a real gift to each of us
16:25 in our marriages.
16:26 But go back to the very beginning,
16:29 but whenever Kay moved to West Monroe
16:31 and it's depicted in the film,
16:32 you see whenever Phil kicks her out of the home
16:35 and she moves with three boys to West Monroe, Louisiana,
16:38 she came here because Jan was here
16:41 and because Jan was a part of a church,
16:43 which our family was a part of as well.
16:46 And so Kay got a job at my grand dad's business
16:50 at Howard Discount Stores.
16:53 It was a chain of discount stores
16:54 that our family owned at the time.
16:56 And so that's where Kay worked during that time
16:58 when she and Phil were separated.
17:00 And the church gave her an apartment
17:02 and gave her a place to live and she got a job.
17:05 And so it was really neat to have my dad
17:08 actually portrayed my granddad in the film
17:12 and given Kay that job.
17:13 And so, yeah, it's really incredible to look back
17:16 and see how God intertwined our lives.
17:20 Even Willie and I would have been two and three at the time.
17:24 - It's crazy.
17:25 - When that happened.
17:26 And he was weaving it together the whole time.
17:30 - And all of you have mentioned in some way
17:33 about the family being open
17:35 and being willing to share their story,
17:37 because there's a lot of tough moments in their story.
17:40 And we depict a lot of those tough moments on "The Blind,"
17:43 but not all of the tough moments.
17:46 If we were to have put all of the tough moments
17:50 on this screen, we probably wouldn't get,
17:53 we wouldn't be able to show it.
17:55 - It would be radar.
17:56 - Yeah, it would be very difficult.
17:59 But the thing that hit me was that Phil and Kay said,
18:02 you know what, take my roughest moments,
18:05 take my darkest moments,
18:07 and you put it on a screen for the world to see.
18:09 They have done that time and time again,
18:11 and your family has done that,
18:13 and opening up your world,
18:15 allowing the world to come into your living rooms
18:18 to see not just the pretty parts,
18:20 not just when everybody looks great,
18:22 but to see the tough parts and the difficult moments.
18:26 And I think that's the thing about the Robertson family
18:29 that has changed my life.
18:31 And I know it's changed the world's life,
18:34 seeing people who really love Jesus,
18:37 who don't claim to be perfect,
18:38 and let you in to the real stuff.
18:40 And so I think that is just,
18:43 I think that's what's gonna make "The Blind"
18:46 so impactful to the world.
18:48 And I'm so thankful to Phil and Kay,
18:50 but I'm so thankful to y'all.
18:51 Like, you know, you are the downline
18:55 of their commitment to the Lord.
18:58 And it could have stopped in any one of your families.
19:00 You could have decided,
19:01 "No, I don't wanna be that open.
19:03 I don't wanna give the world access."
19:06 But you didn't.
19:07 And we're all so incredibly thankful that you didn't.
19:11 (gentle music)
19:14 - Hey, Jack, this is Uncle Si.
19:18 Y'all are listening to "The Blind Movie" podcast.
19:21 Watch "The Blind Movie" in theaters
19:23 starting September 28th.
19:26 Remember, if God can save my brother Phil,
19:29 there's hope for all of us.
19:31 Get your tickets today at theblindmovie.com.
19:35 (gentle music)
19:37 - It's the darkest and hardest moments in life.
19:45 I mean, I'm 52 years old.
19:47 So I've had half of a century building up.
19:50 And I mean, I understand now the wisdom in older people.
19:53 'Cause I feel like I'm gaining more and more every year.
19:56 Not because of the good things that we are given in life.
19:59 It is because of the hard times.
20:01 And it's not just surviving the hard times,
20:04 it's how you react to that adversity
20:07 that really can propel you into being able to share that
20:11 in an authentic way.
20:13 Life is ongoing and it's full of difficult moments.
20:15 And so it's how we react to those.
20:18 And I hope that when people see "The Blind,"
20:23 that Jan, the role that she played,
20:26 she went to Bill Smith and said, "Please help me.
20:29 Please help me and help my sister-in-law
20:31 because we can hide this away.
20:34 It's shameful.
20:35 He's done things wrong."
20:37 Kay, even reacting the way she did in the movie.
20:40 I told Jace the first time,
20:42 'cause we saw a rough cut a few weeks ago.
20:45 And I was like, "I don't like the way
20:46 that they had your mom kind of combating him.
20:49 She didn't do that."
20:51 Jace said, "Oh, yes she did."
20:52 (all laughing)
20:53 She said, "They fought constantly.
20:57 She was yelling at him.
20:58 He said, 'It was just constant chaos in our home.'"
21:03 And so we might think that sweet little Miss Kay
21:06 wouldn't do that, but she was like that too.
21:08 And God changed her life as well.
21:10 So it is about the authenticity.
21:13 Without authenticity, how are we gonna reach the world?
21:16 Why will we even be able to share that we need Jesus?
21:20 We all need him every day.
21:22 - Absolutely.
21:23 - And I think too that whenever your story,
21:27 or you and your husband's story,
21:31 whenever that intertwines with God's story,
21:34 that's what God uses for other people.
21:38 And if we're not out telling our story
21:41 and telling how God redeemed us,
21:46 then what was it for?
21:51 I truly believe that my ministry now,
21:53 Al and I do a lot of marriage ministry,
21:56 but then I also speak for a lot of pro-life events.
22:01 And I believe that's why I am where I am
22:05 is because God said, "Lisa, take this and tell other people
22:10 what I have done for you in your life,
22:12 what I've redeemed you from, what I've brought you out of,
22:16 and the darkness, and tell people about the light."
22:20 Because there's so many people that don't have hope.
22:23 And so, you may go into something
22:27 thinking this is gonna be my ministry,
22:29 but God says, "Nope, nope, that's not your ministry.
22:32 Here's a ministry I wanna give you."
22:34 - One of the things I wanted to make sure we got on camera,
22:36 Kay is not here with us right now,
22:38 but I would love for you guys to take a minute,
22:41 thinking about the blind, seeing it last night,
22:44 what would you say to Kay?
22:46 What would be your message to Kay?
22:47 And you can take a minute, Al,
22:48 like to Kay after watching "The Blind."
22:52 - Thank you.
22:53 - It was not too hard to think into.
22:55 - I mean, just, yeah, thank you for the commitment
22:58 and, you know, really showing Jesus, you know,
23:03 to your kids and Bill and the whole world
23:07 just by loving him through the darkest
23:10 and, you know, letting God work through her.
23:13 And when it became not about her
23:15 and became about how do we glorify our Lord and Savior,
23:19 you know, it became when you take yourself out
23:22 of the equation and stop looking at you
23:24 and how hard something is,
23:26 is when you can actually, you know,
23:28 be used by God in that way.
23:31 - And she showed us what real forgiveness looks like
23:34 because, you know, she really, truly forgave Bill
23:39 and didn't hold it over his head.
23:41 Now she loves to like pick at him, like,
23:44 "Oh, you were mean."
23:44 It's like, she loves to say that kind of thing.
23:47 But the way she lives her life and the way she loves him,
23:50 she really, truly showed us what that looks like.
23:54 And had she not done that, it wouldn't have worked.
23:59 They would not have stayed together.
24:00 And like Willie mentioned earlier, you know,
24:02 he could have, he might have repented
24:05 and turned his life around, but had she not forgiven,
24:08 their family would not be together right now.
24:11 And we would not all be sitting here right now.
24:13 So that was such a key point.
24:15 And also just her strength.
24:17 I mean, strength in her weakness,
24:20 like in her lowest moment, in her lowest point,
24:23 she still said, "No, I've got boys to raise.
24:26 I need to, I've got to stick around for them."
24:29 And, you know, she did the really hard things
24:33 and made it through it and lived to tell about it.
24:36 And now she can come back and say like,
24:38 "Hey, you can do it too."
24:39 Like, you're gonna have hard times.
24:42 You're gonna experience these hard things.
24:43 You're gonna have times when you're gonna have to forgive
24:45 something really hard.
24:46 There's gonna be times whenever you're gonna have to be
24:48 the one repenting, but you can make it through.
24:51 And it was just such a beautiful example to us.
24:54 And we just feel so grateful.
24:56 I feel so grateful to be her daughter-in-law.
24:57 - I love the fact that, I mean,
25:00 in the overall grand scheme of their story,
25:03 yes, she forgave him and took him back.
25:06 But I love the fact that the movie brought out that moment
25:09 that we all know as family, what she did when she said,
25:12 "Oh no, no, you're not coming back.
25:15 Not until you change your life."
25:17 She wanted him back really badly to help her with the boys,
25:21 to have a relationship with him.
25:22 She loved him, but she said,
25:25 "Not until you change your life and give it to Christ."
25:28 And so I'm so glad that the movie depicted that moment
25:31 because it wasn't just about,
25:33 "Oh good, he said he was sorry, he's coming home."
25:36 There's so many abusive husbands,
25:37 alcoholic husbands, terrible fathers
25:39 that they keep letting him come back.
25:43 The wife and the mother keep letting him come back
25:45 without him truly changing his life.
25:48 And without him giving his life to Christ,
25:51 it would have been a totally different picture.
25:53 More abuse, more alcohol, 'cause all of that wears off.
25:57 All of that immediate forgiveness,
26:01 it's a honeymoon period from our ministry
26:03 that we've been in forever.
26:05 Dealing with abused women,
26:06 dealing with all the kids then being thrown out again,
26:09 the cycle continues.
26:11 Jesus is the only one that can break that cycle.
26:13 And Kay knew that at the time.
26:15 And that's when she said, "No, I'm tired of,"
26:19 what was the line?
26:19 "I'm tired of apologies."
26:23 And so that's when Phil said,
26:25 "I gotta do something different this time."
26:28 So her strength, thank you not just for the forgiveness,
26:32 but the tough love and the strength of saying,
26:35 "You need something even I can't give you."
26:37 And that's Jesus.
26:38 - I think mine would be thank you,
26:42 and all of that, ditto on all of that.
26:46 But I think mine would be thank you for choosing life
26:51 because she was only 16
26:56 whenever she found out she was pregnant
26:58 and they were not married.
27:00 And so she could have taken the easy road
27:04 and of course people say it's easy.
27:09 It's really not easy on your mental psyche,
27:12 but she could have not had Alan
27:17 and then I wouldn't have my mate, my soulmate.
27:22 And so thank you for choosing life
27:26 whenever you knew it was gonna be a really hard road.
27:30 And then all the others too of just saying yes to God
27:35 because it's easy to sit back and say,
27:43 well, I've been hurt here and I've been hurt here
27:45 and make excuses why you can't turn your life around
27:50 and why you can't be an example
27:53 and be the woman that you need to be
27:55 even in the midst of having a husband
27:59 who is calling you names.
28:01 He used to call her Miss Holy Roller
28:03 and all that kind of stuff once she said yes to Jesus.
28:08 And so, I mean, she did it in the midst
28:11 of all of the name calling and the being hateful,
28:16 that kind of stuff.
28:18 And so just thank you for being who you are
28:24 and not being afraid to choose a tough road.
28:29 - I love all of your answers.
28:34 And they all attest to the fact that really and truly
28:38 everything that Phil and Kay have done, are doing,
28:42 your families are doing is for Jesus.
28:46 It's for the sole purpose that people might come
28:49 to the knowledge that their life can be different,
28:51 that they can be saved, they can be redeemed,
28:53 they can be restored.
28:55 And that really is the family ministry.
28:57 And so I'm so thankful to all of you.
29:00 I'm thankful to your being boots on the ground
29:03 in the kingdom.
29:05 I'm honored to get to walk through life
29:07 with you beautiful ladies.
29:08 And so I'm excited to see this, the blind come out.
29:11 I'm excited to see this just,
29:13 see what God does with us and whose lives are changed.
29:18 So thank you guys so much.
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