Not a Good Week for Rishi Sunak | Good Week/Bad Week
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00:00 Hi everybody. Welcome to our look back at who's had a good week and who's had a very
00:19 bad week. I'm recording here. I'm Nancy Fielder, Editor-in-Chief at nationalworld.com recording
00:26 from a very wet and wild and rather grim Sheffield. The phrase it's grim up north is definitely
00:31 true today. Marina, what was it like where you are? Yeah. Hi everyone. I'm Marina Lisht,
00:36 Associate Editor of nationalworld.com and I'm in London. Pretty grim up here. I don't
00:41 think it's as bad as other places though. I thought it was quite nice. The Portsmouth,
00:47 the reporters who were based in Portsmouth, they were saying it's quite nice down on the
00:50 South Coast, but hey ho. Anyway, it's been a tough, very bad week for some people, but
00:56 I think the most obvious one in terms of the UK is the poor old Prime Minister. So last
01:04 night in particular, he's had an absolutely horrendous week, hasn't he? I mean, he's very
01:09 quiet this morning as we're recording this on the Friday. I know he's out in the Middle
01:13 East doing his tour, but actually he's not really saying much about the fact that he's
01:18 been absolutely stamped on by two by-elections last night. Did you think it would be quite
01:25 as bad for Rishi as it was Marina? I actually did think it would be pretty bad. Maybe not
01:32 as bad, but I wasn't expecting anything else than a very poor show from the Conservatives.
01:38 It's lucky he's away at the moment, but yeah, it's going to be interesting to see how he
01:44 responds to this. And because I think the Tamworth one is the second biggest sort of
01:50 swing to Labour since 1945. How do you think he takes it personally? I don't feel like
01:56 we know a massive amount about his personality. It seems like he's very, very airbrushed and
02:01 very sort of PR presented. He wants us to think certain things about him and his family
02:05 that I'm not sure are actually accurate because we know basically that both of them, both
02:10 members of the couple are billionaires or millionaires in their own right, aren't they?
02:14 I just wonder how he is feeling. It looks like he's on a downward path here. Nobody
02:19 thinks he's going to get into the next election. Unelected Prime Minister who ruled for a very
02:23 short time. I don't know, what do we know about him, Marina?
02:29 I know it's really interesting when you say that because it's what we were talking about
02:32 last week, wasn't it? About charisma and maybe Keir Starmer's lack of charisma and maybe
02:38 the same, I think the same could be applied to Rishi. He tries to portray, as we all know,
02:44 he's certainly not a man of the people, but he did try and, you know, with his summer
02:48 holiday pose in sort of, you know, hooded top and jeans and his wife is trying to sort
02:56 of pose the children. And, you know, at the conference we talked about how she made out
03:01 he likes Emily in Paris and wears hooded tops, but, you know, the public aren't stupid. We
03:09 know he isn't a man of the people. Don't know if Keir Starmer is either, though.
03:15 No, I don't think there's, in terms of personality politics, I think we're a bit lacking, aren't
03:19 we? There are none of the sort of big personalities who really grab the headlines. I mean, I know
03:26 we're not talking about Keir, but boy, he was dull. And even with a historic record
03:31 victory, he was still kind of not talking about his incredible politics. He was talking
03:34 about how bad the Tories are, which none of us think is wrong on that, but at least give
03:40 us something to be hopeful for. So, yeah, I don't know if Rishi's going to, maybe dull
03:45 and boring is what the country needed, but he's clearly been too dull and boring because
03:51 there isn't even anything much to say about him, is there? Where is he? What does he think?
03:56 We don't know what he thinks. And how can you have a prime minister and you're not even
03:59 sure what he's thinking?
04:00 I know it's interesting on our, we had a morning call, didn't we, on nationalworld.com and
04:05 our early editor, Tom Waltham, was saying perhaps that's what the country needs, a contrast
04:12 between Boris and that's what does the country need, dull and boring? I don't think any country
04:18 wants dull and boring though. They need stability.
04:23 And we need leadership, don't we? I think the problem is Boris gave us leadership that
04:28 actually was a slightly insane leadership all over the place, whatever his last random
04:32 thought had been, but it just doesn't really feel like anybody's getting any help here
04:36 and the country's in a desperate position, isn't it?
04:39 But what Boris was very good at is everybody did talk about Boris and everybody was very
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