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The Knock Knock Show | Ali Azmat | Episode 15 | 29 Oct 2023 | ARY Digital
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Host: Mohib Mirza (Along with Stock Characters)
Guest: Ali Azmat
The Knock Knock show will be a fun-filled talkshow, that will give you chance to sneak peak in the lives of your favorite celebrities, cricketers, politicians, social media stars and other famous personalities of Pakistan.
Watch "The Knock Knock Show" every Saturday at 9 PM only on ARY Digital!
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00:00 [Music]
00:06 [Music]
00:10 Are you ready?
00:11 [Music]
00:12 The Knock Knock Show
00:14 [Music]
00:28 Hello, hello, hello, hello
00:30 Welcome to The Knock Knock Show
00:32 Time is passing by and everything is changing
00:35 The weather is changing
00:36 People are changing
00:37 The accents are changing
00:39 The listeners are changing
00:40 And the narrators are also changing
00:43 By the way, the forgetters have also changed
00:46 And the forgetters have also changed
00:48 [Laughter]
00:50 In the 90s music, especially in pop music
00:53 We saw that vital signs started to get better
00:56 And slowly, slowly, slowly, the passion
01:01 Slowly started to come from Jupiter to Earth
01:04 And started to create a rock solid ambience with music
01:09 And in that rock solid ambience, a rock solid voice
01:13 Started to become our identity in the whole world
01:16 A genre was created for that voice
01:19 Which is called Sufi Rock
01:21 You must have understood
01:23 Absolutely, along with passion
01:26 We kept moving forward with our solo career
01:30 And what hit singles did we get?
01:32 Na Re Na
01:34 Joshe Junoon
01:35 And Garaj Baras
01:38 Today's entry cannot happen without music
01:42 Ladies and gentlemen
01:44 [Applause]
02:00 1, 2, 3, 4
02:02 Knock, knock
02:03 Who's there?
02:04 Knock, knock
02:04 Who's there?
02:06 The greatest rock star ever produced
02:09 Made in Pakistan
02:11 Ali Azbar
02:13 [Applause]
02:29 Let's go, let's go, let's go
02:31 [Applause]
02:36 Ali Azbar
02:37 [Applause]
02:46 Wow, wow
02:47 You broke it
02:48 The last bang was late
02:49 [Laughter]
02:50 The bass was like, "Ooooh"
02:52 Welcome, welcome, welcome
02:54 Yes
02:55 Welcome
02:55 Yes
02:57 How are you?
02:57 How are you, sir?
02:58 For me, it's like, what should I say?
03:01 Is this a moment?
03:03 No, no, no
03:04 I swear to God
03:05 I swear to God
03:06 I swear
03:07 I swear
03:07 I swear to God
03:08 I swear to God
03:09 [Applause]
03:12 Today, I'm not a host, today I'm a fan
03:14 Today, you're a ghost
03:15 [Laughter]
03:16 Ghost with a ghost
03:18 So, Havelian, Zilla, Aptabad
03:20 Then, Gharishah
03:22 And then, life went on
03:24 Then, where?
03:25 Where?
03:26 So, where life reached
03:29 How does it feel?
03:30 I'm maybe, it's an age thing
03:32 When I started, I was 18
03:34 I joined a band
03:36 And now, I'm 53
03:37 So, it's been 33-34 years
03:40 So, it was a long journey
03:42 Long, I mean
03:43 I won't say it was difficult
03:46 Or it was a tough journey
03:47 I saw a very bad time
03:49 Adventurous
03:50 Yes
03:50 So, because our nature was like
03:54 That, we slept on the sofa
03:57 Slept on the floor
03:58 Slept on the car seat
04:00 A life like a homeless person
04:02 Easygoing
04:03 Easy
04:04 [Speaking in Urdu]
04:08 So, obviously, from that social bracket
04:11 And economic bracket
04:13 You don't have many choices
04:14 [Speaking in Urdu]
04:22 Just frustration, say, hopes, beliefs
04:26 And then, going against your belief system
04:28 [Speaking in Urdu]
04:32 [Speaking in Urdu]
04:34 But, in the end, you had to change yourself
04:37 So, life, as far as you've gone
04:39 From this point onwards
04:41 What do you think, what you've done for your daughters
04:44 That feeling, peace
04:46 You give your children
04:50 Thousands of crores
04:52 But can you guarantee their emotional health
04:55 Physical health, their life?
04:58 This is an assumption
04:59 That our parents left nothing for us
05:03 Left loans
05:04 So, it's the same thing
05:06 Financially, it's irrelevant
05:09 From middle class to here
05:11 Middle class is also alive
05:13 But, their family network
05:19 Which is called a blanket
05:20 It's very strong in middle class
05:22 So, it keeps accumulating
05:25 This is the class
05:26 As far as what you can give them as a person
05:30 What are the right values
05:32 That's important
05:33 And, obviously, in our journey
05:35 We made a lot of mistakes
05:37 And did a lot of good things
05:38 Absolutely
05:39 So, you feel that whatever education you got
05:42 Along with that
05:43 You were brought up
05:44 The world brought us up
05:46 Because education was basic
05:48 That the next generation taught us to read
05:52 But, reading a book
05:53 If I want to, I'll read a book
05:56 From your experiences
05:57 That book teaches you the world
06:00 Were you stubborn in childhood or still are?
06:02 I wasn't stubborn
06:03 I was never
06:04 We were in a situation
06:07 To trade
06:07 Okay, if it's like this, it's like that
06:09 So, you remember a lot of that time
06:10 Yes, and that was a fun time
06:12 Do you remember any mischief
06:15 That you played in your childhood
06:18 That was amazing
06:18 Do you remember anything like that?
06:19 I wasn't good in school
06:21 But, I liked economics in B.Sc.A
06:24 So, my uncle, Faisal
06:27 He used to teach me economics
06:29 He taught me economics for 3 months
06:31 And I passed
06:32 He said, "This is a natural flair"
06:34 "You're failing in all the other subjects"
06:37 "You've passed in economics after 3 months"
06:40 And in economics, till date
06:41 So, I understood the concept of it
06:44 And I was hungry too
06:46 So, we became street smart
06:49 Right
06:49 Stubborn
06:51 So, we used to say, "I'll do this"
06:53 "I'm sitting here"
06:54 "I have to take pictures from here"
06:55 "So, I'll do this"
06:56 We used to say, "It's a jingle song"
06:58 "In the name of God"
06:59 Someone said, "Do some modelling"
07:01 "You've become a 5'7" model too"
07:02 Right
07:03 We wore jackets without shirts
07:05 We did modelling on Free Altaf shows
07:08 Then someone said, "Come on the drums"
07:09 "In the name of God"
07:11 Someone said, "Host the show"
07:12 "In the name of God"
07:13 We said, "Do a concert"
07:15 "Come alone, with the band"
07:16 "Ride a motorcycle in the well of death"
07:18 "Sing a jingle"
07:23 "Come in the film"
07:25 "No work is bad"
07:28 But I was amazed when I saw your play
07:30 Which you did for Sajid Hassan
07:32 Was it 'Bhairopiya'?
07:33 Or what was the name?
07:34 Something like that
07:34 Yes, it was a film
07:35 It was a take of 'Dirty Rotten Scoundrels'
07:39 It was very good
07:40 You acted so well
07:41 Why didn't you continue?
07:42 I did a film
07:43 You know
07:44 Your friends too
07:46 That film was shot for four years
07:49 Not just four years
07:51 But sometimes six days
07:52 Sometimes four days
07:52 And then at the end
07:54 We shoot this and that
07:55 So we do it
07:57 But now I'm so old
08:00 That I don't feel like going anywhere
08:02 I don't want to go anywhere
08:03 You have to go every time
08:04 I have to go
08:05 Don't you have to leave your bike?
08:07 No, I have to go on a motorcycle
08:09 I need some mental preparation
08:11 Okay, from the beginning
08:12 It's called supreme exercise
08:15 In concentration
08:16 In focus
08:17 You know that
08:18 All your senses
08:19 You know that
08:20 You have experienced it
08:22 Not just a normal person
08:24 Because it's just a life
08:25 It's a video game
08:26 And if you go, you're gone
08:27 Okay?
08:28 You'll break everything
08:29 Now if you don't wear the gear
08:30 And if you fall
08:32 Then you'll be in trouble
08:34 You'll start getting in trouble from here
08:35 And then you don't know what to do
08:36 That's why it's important to wear that
08:38 Because these motorcycles are so big
08:39 Expensive motorcycles
08:40 And they're big
08:41 They cause damage to their own blood
08:43 Absolutely
08:43 So that whole process
08:44 In this heat
08:45 It's difficult
08:46 But I have made a plan to go on the 4th
08:48 Inshallah
08:48 There must be some incident
08:50 Which I know
08:51 That it's very cold
08:53 And it's -4
08:54 There are a lot
08:55 And you're alone
08:56 And it's snowing
08:56 And you're on the bike
08:57 And what anxiety
08:58 And what heated grips
08:59 The coldest was when I went to Nordkapp
09:02 From England to Norway
09:04 And then all over Finland
09:05 I went around 15 countries
09:07 So when we were in the Arctic Circle
09:09 Arctic Circle
09:10 I had only heard the name
09:11 And I knew that there was a circle
09:12 Which was just snow
09:13 You must have seen it
09:14 So going inside it was a stuff of dreams
09:18 Meaning, those are the kinds of things
09:20 Which you do as a claim
09:22 That I will go there
09:23 I will go there
09:24 Because you're in a foreign country
09:27 20,000 kilometers away from home
09:30 Okay?
09:31 And here you don't know anyone
09:33 And you don't know anything
09:35 Where you're going
09:36 And you're on a motorcycle
09:37 And it's raining
09:38 It's raining, it's a storm
09:40 It's snowing
09:41 And the wind is cold
09:42 And the suit, heated grip
09:44 Everything is minus
09:45 And the helmet
09:46 Under the two helmets
09:47 The caps
09:48 You name it, bro
09:50 And if there's leakage from somewhere
09:51 Yes, even if there's no leakage
09:53 The general atmosphere was so cold
09:56 That whatever you're wearing
09:57 Has also become cold
09:58 Your hands are also weird
09:59 So
10:00 You're sweating from inside
10:02 But still you're feeling cold
10:04 People often say
10:05 I never thought
10:06 That I would achieve this
10:07 That I would become such a big star
10:09 Is it true
10:10 That what you think happens
10:11 It manifests
10:12 I never considered myself
10:14 As a singer
10:15 Because I wanted to be a musician
10:17 Maybe a drummer, guitar player
10:19 Singer, yes
10:20 Because whenever a song is played
10:21 We sing it in a high voice
10:23 This is what happens
10:24 In everyone's youth
10:26 It's fun
10:27 But I noticed
10:28 And one person says
10:29 You're singing well
10:30 I noticed that
10:31 The music of Patshahab
10:33 The time
10:34 The passion
10:35 Or before that
10:36 Your career
10:37 The music
10:38 When that music was being made
10:40 Why wasn't that rock
10:41 That sound being recorded?
10:42 What was the problem?
10:43 The thing is
10:44 We had nothing to lose
10:45 So you took a risk
10:46 There was nothing
10:47 I mean
10:48 If you mess up
10:49 You'll hear something else
10:51 Why is this happening?
10:53 Like a song like 'Sai'
10:55 No, no
10:56 I want to thank you
10:57 For that song
10:58 I want to thank you
10:59 For messing up
11:00 If you mess up
11:01 There's no sound
11:02 I mean
11:03 The biggest strength
11:04 Was
11:05 (Humming)
11:10 It's an eastern style
11:11 And he said
11:12 What's a rock band playing?
11:14 (Humming)
11:15 Shock value
11:16 (Humming)
11:17 He said
11:18 (Humming)
11:19 He did
11:20 I mean
11:21 The style of singing
11:22 Is very different
11:23 We were spending our money
11:24 No company was giving
11:25 We were making our own videos
11:27 The money we collected from the shows
11:29 We made a pool
11:31 We said
11:32 Put this money
11:33 We have to make a video
11:34 We have to make two shows
11:35 We have to make an album
11:36 We have to make three shows
11:37 We have to make four shows
11:38 To make an album
11:39 And then
11:40 Discipline
11:41 Practicality
11:42 Practicality was not there
11:43 Because the hobby
11:44 Was something else
11:45 I mean
11:46 Basically
11:47 I'm an artist performer
11:49 I said
11:50 I'll do a little
11:51 Juggling
11:52 I'll do a little dance
11:54 In films
11:55 In western Hollywood
11:57 Your
11:58 Mostly
11:59 The actors
12:00 And entertainer
12:01 Entertainer
12:02 The entertainers
12:03 Are also dancers
12:04 Yes
12:05 They can sing
12:06 In perfect key
12:07 They can sing and act
12:08 At the same time
12:09 At the same time
12:10 We just stand in front of the mic
12:11 (Humming)
12:12 And
12:13 Every actor
12:14 In every
12:15 In dance
12:16 Will dabble a little
12:17 Action
12:18 Exactly like this
12:19 Training
12:20 Action
12:21 You have done it in films
12:22 You know
12:23 Oh my god
12:24 That is so much work
12:25 Then I did a film
12:26 With Ayesha Umar
12:27 She did a dance
12:28 She did a dance
12:29 It took three days
12:30 And then
12:31 She dubbed that song
12:32 And then she dubbed that song
12:33 Into the box
12:34 (Laughter)
12:35 (Applause)
12:36 You can understand
12:37 What I'm saying
12:38 Till now
12:39 In so many
12:40 Tours
12:41 In so many live performances
12:42 Where is the best audience
12:43 Reaction
12:44 From
12:45 You remember
12:46 I didn't say audience
12:47 I think
12:48 In New York
12:49 We did it
12:50 In Central Park
12:51 Where
12:52 All famous bands
12:53 Come and do it
12:54 There
12:55 17-18 thousand
12:56 Pakistani
12:57 New York
12:58 In Central Park
12:59 And their energy
13:00 Their pride
13:01 Their love
13:02 Their songs
13:03 They remember
13:04 They are singing with you
13:05 Abda Parveen
13:06 Is playing before you
13:07 It was a magical moment
13:08 It was the atmosphere
13:09 For Abda Parveen
13:10 For Junoon
13:11 A very tough time
13:12 Came when
13:13 The band started
13:14 And it became a situation
13:15 Some political songs
13:16 Were not liked
13:17 What did you think
13:18 About the future
13:19 Of career
13:20 Of Junoon
13:21 What will happen
13:22 You won't believe
13:23 If you know me
13:24 A little
13:25 You know that
13:26 I don't care
13:27 I don't care
13:28 I don't care
13:29 I don't care
13:30 You know
13:31 It's that attitude
13:32 That has got me through
13:33 This far
13:34 Whatever happens
13:35 Will be seen
13:36 My point is
13:37 The whole world
13:38 Will agree with this
13:39 That in this world
13:40 With your own breath
13:41 Nothing is in your control
13:43 Why try to interfere
13:45 In the biggest scheme of things
13:47 Whatever is happening
13:48 Is happening
13:49 And then you went to UN
13:50 And I mean
13:51 We went everywhere
13:52 And we
13:53 Took everything
13:54 In the same way
13:55 Meaning
13:56 I
13:57 Had a concert
13:58 In which
13:59 I had a concert
14:00 In which Sting was with us
14:01 And
14:02 Def Leppard
14:03 And Aqua
14:04 Oh
14:05 And
14:06 And I'm obviously
14:07 In awe of
14:08 Sting
14:09 And
14:10 Def Leppard
14:11 Joe Elliot
14:12 Rick Allen
14:13 One-eyed drummer
14:14 Became my friend
14:15 It was a moment
14:16 I had a dream
14:17 That I was
14:18 16 years old
14:19 So
14:20 I was listening to
14:21 16, 17, 18 years old
14:22 And when I was 26
14:23 I was hanging out with them
14:24 With a very short
14:25 Span of time
14:26 Unbelievable
14:27 Morton Harcourt
14:28 And
14:29 I was
14:30 In a
14:31 Big band
14:32 In the whole world
14:33 Norwegian
14:34 And then I'm doing a song with them
14:35 I'm on stage with them
14:36 So for me
14:37 Those
14:38 Unbelievable moments
14:39 To hang out with Sting
14:40 But at the same time
14:41 Because it was so real
14:42 The effect
14:43 Wasn't that
14:44 That
14:45 The happiness
14:46 Doesn't make your heart burst
14:47 I
14:48 I don't understand
14:49 Who I'm kicking
14:50 That wasn't happening
14:51 That wasn't happening
14:52 Yes
14:53 On the contrary
14:54 I went into depression
14:55 What?
14:56 What is this?
14:57 This is
14:58 These are the complexities
14:59 Of the world
15:00 Of life
15:01 And as an artist
15:02 I mean
15:03 What did you
15:04 I'm 16
15:05 26 years old
15:06 And I'm achieving this
15:07 I'm standing here with Sting
15:08 What should I do?
15:09 Where should I go?
15:10 Where should I go?
15:11 But sir
15:12 Your personality
15:13 Doesn't go to depression
15:14 I mean
15:15 It's
15:16 All those ups and downs
15:17 That make us
15:18 I mean
15:19 Not the person without
15:20 Just a flat line
15:21 High riding
15:22 You know
15:23 Tan tanan tan
15:24 It doesn't go like that
15:25 It goes like
15:26 We meet at 10.
15:29 At 10. You are...
15:34 Why don't you release albums?
15:39 That's because we have to make the software.
15:45 - Okay? Let me record an album. - Okay.
15:47 Musicians and writers take money.
15:51 - Studio... - I don't know how many songs are there.
15:54 10-11. People make singles now.
15:58 If it hits, I'll release another song.
16:00 Videos are being made digitally.
16:02 Everything is computerized.
16:05 One person is making music on a keyboard.
16:09 That's something else. We are good at our music.
16:11 We need a good drummer who has played something
16:14 that the listener will listen to.
16:16 After 20 years, they will say, "That role..."
16:18 I was watching a documentary today.
16:20 The role of Dave Grohl.
16:24 It's a small thing.
16:25 But it's spread over so much music.
16:27 - The whole history of the role... - Science.
16:31 Science. Who did he copy from?
16:34 It's a game. Musicians are responding to each other.
16:38 Listening to each other's music,
16:39 they are giving tributes to each other.
16:41 They are making such things. That's why the music...
16:43 If I take your phone and go to a place where you have music
16:47 and I see your music, which song will it be?
16:49 Dave Matthews' new album is being released.
16:52 It's amazing. Walk Around The Moon.
16:54 I am listening to it. Before that, I was listening to The Smile.
16:58 Before that, Red Hot Chili Pepper's new album is out.
17:01 - What an album! - It's great.
17:02 So, this type of... And then it keeps changing.
17:04 Then there's 80s music.
17:06 Then Kishore Kumar too.
17:08 - All old songs. - And in this,
17:09 in your desi songs?
17:11 In my desi songs,
17:13 if I have heard any desi recording,
17:16 which is bearable, it's Mikaal Hassan's.
17:18 Because obviously, it's desi music.
17:22 It's rock music. It's right down our alley.
17:24 - And it's a great record. - It's a great record.
17:26 It's a great record. And Mikaal, obviously.
17:28 Will there ever be a time for our future generations
17:32 when we grow up in our passion for vital science?
17:36 So, tell us, is there any music in your opinion
17:39 that has the potential of a band today?
17:43 The problem is that we had a lot of time.
17:45 No internet, no TV.
17:47 We used to get a tape and record it off-beat.
17:50 It was a 60-rupee tape and we'd charge 60 for 120.
17:52 - Actually, that was the... - 12 songs for 120.
17:55 - That was the play. - One song on one side, another on the other.
17:57 For that, we had to go to Fortress Stadium on a cycle.
17:59 If we'd made a mistake on the cycle,
18:01 we'd take it back because it was too loud.
18:03 It was a bass line.
18:05 And you come back, then you listen to that music for weeks.
18:10 My kids, or the kids of the world,
18:12 their concentration level has gone down to nine seconds.
18:18 - Because TikTok is based on... - Scroll.
18:20 Scroll and TikTok are a nine-second song.
18:24 And that's also sped up.
18:26 You expect your kids to have the same values.
18:29 That's stupid. It's the biggest letdown.
18:32 It's the biggest trap.
18:33 When you say, "Our kids will be like us."
18:36 I don't know what they...
18:38 I'm not just talking about individual kids.
18:41 I'm talking about the whole generation.
18:44 How many proposals have you received from women?
18:47 Fortunately, I've always been raised by smart women
18:52 who have seen danger from a distance.
18:54 I've rarely had a situation where a proposal came to me
19:01 and I was like, "Not to be trusted, man."
19:04 And even if I trust them, it's an embarrassment for me.
19:08 - No one... - No matter what a person says,
19:12 a friend of mine wrote me a long message yesterday.
19:15 He said, "You do this and that."
19:18 "You say whatever comes to your mind."
19:21 "People get insulted."
19:22 I said, "I shouldn't meet those people."
19:25 I mean, why should I meet them?
19:28 - If I'm naturally... - You don't understand.
19:30 It's a natural process.
19:31 When you talk to me, I naturally give you an answer.
19:35 - Right. - I...
19:36 Would you rather like it?
19:38 - Or I would fake it for you? - No, no, no.
19:40 - Absolutely. - You know, so...
19:41 Some people like that kind of relationship.
19:43 - Yes, you're right. - Yes, you're right.
19:44 - I'm feeling great. - I'm feeling great.
19:45 - I'm feeling great. - My beard has grown.
19:46 I'm feeling great.
19:49 - Your beard has grown. - It's with me.
19:50 It's coming towards my beard.
19:51 I'll have to take a short break.
19:53 See you after the break. Stay with us.
19:55 - I used to think of Morton Hockett. - Okay.
20:03 And then we made a song together.
20:05 And then we sang three songs together on stage.
20:07 And I was in awe of him.
20:12 "I can't sleep at night."
20:15 "So let's talk about my heart."
20:19 "Let's talk about the distance between us."
20:24 The song was over.
20:27 [laughing]
20:28 [cheering]
20:34 [whistle blowing]
20:40 [cheering]
20:44 Woo!
20:49 [cheering]
20:53 [cheering]
20:54 Welcome back.
20:59 I'm sure you've never seen Alias Bhatt perform on a show like this.
21:05 I'm so honoured.
21:07 This is amazing.
21:08 A true fan moment for me.
21:10 Welcome back to the Naughty Naughty Show.
21:15 [music playing]
21:16 Well done, well done.
21:43 [cheering]
21:45 Truly honoured.
21:46 Amazing, Jami.
21:50 I wish there was more sound.
21:52 Because the one who plays the guitar only wants to listen to the guitar.
21:55 [laughing]
21:56 If you could make a biography, who would play Alias Bhatt?
22:00 I can do this role myself.
22:02 [laughing]
22:03 - You can start from here. - Three should be there.
22:07 Teenager, then a little bit...
22:09 What comes to your mind when you hear these names?
22:13 One word. Salman Ahmed.
22:15 Band member, friend.
22:17 - Ali Zafar. - Friend.
22:19 - Friend. - Gumby.
22:20 Friend. A drum...
22:23 Well, let's call him a drum-bee.
22:26 - Madam Taranam Noorjahan. - Oh, wow.
22:28 [cheering]
22:29 Our grandmothers were very jealous.
22:33 - So when our... - Because of her beauty.
22:36 When our grandfather used to play Taranam at the show,
22:39 - he used to waste time at home. - So the focus was on him.
22:42 Yes, he used to waste time.
22:44 - I don't know what... - She was jealous.
22:47 Yes, we used to go through that phase.
22:49 What's happening?
22:50 Someone is singing and everyone is quiet.
22:53 Out of all the music you've heard in your life,
22:55 with whom do you wish to perform on stage?
22:59 - Or have you fulfilled it? - I have many wishes.
23:01 I used to think of Morton Hackett once.
23:06 And then we made a song together.
23:07 And then we sang three songs together on stage.
23:09 And I was in awe of him.
23:13 Because the song "Take On Me" came out,
23:16 he was 26 years old.
23:19 When I met him, he was 52 years old.
23:22 After 25-26 years.
23:23 He looked better than when he was 26.
23:26 In short, he was fair.
23:28 Fair, okay.
23:29 - He was fair. - He was a hero.
23:31 So we gave him this.
23:33 He was singing and I was forgetting my part.
23:35 - We rehearsed for six days. - He had this aura.
23:38 He had this aura and I asked him, "Ali, what's your problem, man?"
23:41 I said, "Man, I just got lost in your eyes."
23:44 - I used to make fun of him. - It was overwhelming.
23:47 And he said, "Yeah, I realized that."
23:49 He was also...
23:51 Then Abda Parveen, definitely with him,
23:55 he invited me to his house.
23:57 My legs started shaking when I saw him.
23:59 Such a brave woman, such a fair-skinned woman.
24:02 I said...
24:03 When I went to his house, he was coming out of the door barefoot.
24:06 Which is your favorite song?
24:10 You find yourself humming or singing.
24:13 "Oh, I'm in the kitchen and I'm making a song."
24:16 There are some songs...
24:17 "Na Re Na" was one of the songs that...
24:19 I think the song was complete in eight to ten minutes.
24:22 There are still many songs like this, incomplete.
24:24 Some have two parts.
24:27 Some have a chorus.
24:29 I don't understand the verse.
24:30 And you don't go into the natural process.
24:34 - So I... - When it's natural, it happens.
24:36 Your favorite song is "Main".
24:38 "Main" is also there.
24:39 And "Teri Parchahin" is a song.
24:41 "Teri Parchahin".
24:42 Karachi or Lahore?
24:43 Karachi, because it gave me what I came looking for.
24:48 Karachi is such a welcoming city.
24:51 If anyone comes here...
24:52 I came here when I was 19 years old.
24:54 And I started going to Lahore when I was 42.
24:58 My parents were getting sick.
25:00 So I used to stay with them more.
25:02 I was building a house for them.
25:04 So I've been living in Lahore for the last eight to ten years.
25:09 Having said that, all my friends are here.
25:11 You didn't get an answer. Karachi or Lahore?
25:13 So Lahore... Now I prefer Lahore.
25:16 Just because...
25:18 - Now this Karachi... - You want to have a house.
25:21 - Whatever. - Karachi's dirt and...
25:24 - The vibe is very strong. - The vibe is very dilapidated.
25:28 Wherever you look, you feel like something is broken.
25:31 And on the other hand, Lahore is nurturing...
25:33 So where there is dirt, there is grass.
25:37 - That's the difference. - That's the difference.
25:38 There are no potholes on the roads.
25:40 There's a little greenery.
25:43 I mean, the road and water systems...
25:46 - The infrastructure is better. - There's no lawlessness.
25:49 There's no garbage on the roads.
25:51 (Sings in Punjabi)
25:53 (Applause)
25:55 (Sings in Punjabi)
25:58 (Applause)
26:00 (Sings in Punjabi)
26:02 (Sings in Punjabi)
26:04 (Laughs)
26:06 (Sings in Punjabi)
26:08 (Sings in Punjabi)
26:10 (Sings in Punjabi)
26:12 - Wow. - (Sings in Punjabi)
26:14 (Sings in Punjabi)
26:16 (Sings in Punjabi)
26:18 (Sings in Punjabi)
26:21 (Sings in Punjabi)
26:23 (Sings in Punjabi)
26:25 You are really not at peace.
26:26 - He's not at peace. - Isn't this kid a little big for school?
26:28 He's too big.
26:30 He's too big and he's mentally so small.
26:34 - You are not at peace, right? - Yes.
26:35 I know, Mohit bhai, you can't live a moment without me.
26:39 Look, a person should take care of a cat, a dog...
26:42 but not a misunderstanding.
26:44 I know, Mohit bhai. I'm a good child.
26:47 Look, it was your job. I have to do it to handle him.
26:50 I'm starting to get upset with you.
26:52 This is good news for me.
26:54 - I'm going. - Bye.
26:56 Wait a minute. Tell me, what's the problem?
26:59 What have you got? What's the matter?
27:00 - Mohit bhai, Mohit bhai... - Yes.
27:02 - There's an annual play in our school. - Okay.
27:05 It's called 'Lord of the Gujranwala'.
27:08 So, my teacher told me...
27:10 "Bunty, you're his hero. You'll be the wrestler of Gujranwala."
27:14 - Okay. - So, I said, "No problem."
27:15 "I'll go to Mohit bhai and learn acting from him."
27:18 He said, "No, Bunty. He's a very important character."
27:22 "I'll learn from a good actor."
27:24 He'll give you a bang.
27:28 What's the story? Tell me. The guests are seated. Cut.
27:31 Ali Ashman sir.
27:40 "He's passionate, he's brave."
27:43 "He does what he's told."
27:45 "He's a hard worker."
27:48 "He recognizes his people."
27:55 "You'll never know."
27:59 "Pakistan is yours."
28:03 "Pakistan is ours."
28:06 - That's enough. - Enough?
28:07 Sir, you're my student.
28:10 Because I'm your biggest fan.
28:16 After Chahat Sutli Khan's success, you...
28:18 - I'm not your fan anymore. - He was just saying that.
28:23 No, he'll go far.
28:25 He'll become a big star.
28:26 He'll go far. Because wherever he goes, people will say, "He's a fraud."
28:29 I knew it. He's going to be the one.
28:34 He'll be the one.
28:36 - Nothing has happened yet. - It will happen.
28:37 We're tired.
28:38 - We're tired. - Get us some tea.
28:42 You're here, we're tired.
28:44 Sir, I want to become a wrestler.
28:47 - Okay. - I heard you're very energetic.
28:50 Help me develop my character.
28:53 Character development. He's in acting class.
28:55 I thought you want to teach me how to do the 'dobi patra'.
28:58 Teach me how to do the 'dobi patra'.
29:00 - No. - Teach me how to do the 'adangi'.
29:02 - Teach me how to do the dialogue. - Teach me how to do the dialogue.
29:05 First of all, my teacher said that you should be able to do the 'barak' well.
29:10 Hey!
29:13 You have to use your entire neck.
29:15 But if you start with the 'shud', it should be very 'shudili' 'barak'.
29:19 - It shouldn't be like this. - Yes.
29:22 - There are so many props. - So leave the props.
29:25 Leave the props, so that my neck doesn't get cut.
29:27 And there's blood flowing in it.
29:31 - Okay. - You have to speak like a hero.
29:34 Look at him.
29:35 He's a blood-sucking scoundrel. He's snatched someone's dupatta.
29:39 In Hindi movies, they put dupattas on women's heads, not take them off.
29:43 Like this.
29:44 "The monsoon has come."
29:49 "Look at how the unknown rain has fallen on the roads."
29:55 - If you... - "Come and enjoy the fun of the weather."
30:02 If he had asked me 10 years ago, it would have rained more.
30:07 "Every brain falls on me, you know, with the heart thundering."
30:11 "And the thunder is very, very beautiful."
30:13 "And slowly walk on that winding road before you stumble into my love."
30:18 - "Oh, my son." - Okay.
30:23 - My wife has said this line. - Okay.
30:26 That he'll say these lines in anger in Punjabi.
30:30 - Okay. In Punjabi. - The lines are...
30:32 "Neenu doesn't come to the wedding night."
30:37 - "If someone says a word." - In Punjabi.
30:38 "My heart says, if you don't come with me today."
30:43 "I'll lose my sleep."
30:46 "The whole universe."
30:50 - You have to do it in Punjabi. - "Needhaati nahi."
30:52 "Oh, my rotten teeth don't sleep."
30:57 "So someone talk to you about my heart."
31:00 "The distances between us."
31:06 "The distance between us."
31:08 - This is in English. - This is in English.
31:13 - And you know how good my English is. - Very good.
31:16 - Very beautiful. - The British are usually ashamed.
31:18 They say, "Pass the pan."
31:20 There are a few lines.
31:22 "If you mess with me, you'll know."
31:27 "You won't get the knife of laughter."
31:30 "You'll have to get the knife."
31:33 - "Pappu yaar." - What was that?
31:37 What was that?
31:38 "If you mess with me, you'll get to know who I am, okay?"
31:43 - Okay. - You'll see.
31:44 "And you won't get my tone, bro."
31:47 "My tone is my tone, bro."
31:48 - And Pappu yaar's English. - "Pappu yaar, you sweet..."
31:52 "Sweet-ass friend."
31:53 - Thank you. - Thank you.
31:58 - Hopefully, your work is done. - Thank you so much.
32:00 You told me so much.
32:02 Now I know who will get the knife.
32:05 Because I have a shovel now.
32:09 So, let's take a moment of peace.
32:12 And let's take a moment of peace.
32:16 My son, be careful.
32:20 These kids are usually under the table.
32:23 But sir, we've talked about laughter, jokes, music, songs, life.
32:28 Let's talk about the heart. Come with me.
32:31 - You're doing a jirki too? - Yes.
32:32 Come on.
32:35 Ready?
32:36 Face to face.
32:39 I mean...
32:40 Ali Azmat, tell me...
32:50 I met your father for a very short time.
32:56 When you returned to Karachi for your parents after finishing your career,
33:01 you told them that they need you.
33:03 Do you remember any such moment?
33:06 Or, like, I personally feel that
33:10 if I had spoken to my father at this age,
33:14 maybe I could have exchanged something.
33:16 Sometimes I miss it, sometimes I feel that I missed something.
33:19 See, regret is a tender trap.
33:23 - It gets you every time. - Right.
33:26 I don't think your parents need anything from you.
33:28 They're your well-wishers.
33:30 They're okay with you.
33:32 And if they're with you, you just share things with them.
33:36 You don't think of them as a bed.
33:40 You talk to them.
33:41 So they feel a part of you. They live through you.
33:43 - Exactly. - It's just that.
33:45 Nothing more than that.
33:46 You didn't have to give them anything.
33:48 You didn't have to give them a hug or a kiss
33:51 that would mean something to them.
33:53 You've been doing that all your life.
33:55 But the fact that you were in touch with that soul,
33:58 that says everything.
33:59 - And if you were... - But this is true, right?
34:02 In the life cycle, you were a child first,
34:05 and then you take care of them as a child.
34:08 That's a natural cycle.
34:10 - Some people get attached emotionally. - Yes.
34:14 - That's not the case. - Right.
34:15 But life, this human experience,
34:17 if we say that we're transient beings,
34:21 we're spiritual beings, and we're going through a human experience.
34:24 In a human experience, emotions are everything, right?
34:28 That's true, but they're in our consciousness.
34:31 As long as I'm there,
34:32 those memories, those feelings, if they're in me,
34:36 they'll only go with me.
34:38 I can't transfer them to anyone else.
34:40 - It's happening. - It's happening.
34:41 What's next for Ali Azmat?
34:43 I don't know.
34:45 Like I said, I don't have that kind of ambition
34:47 to go conquer the world.
34:48 I mean, I play music.
34:50 And I'm working on an album.
34:54 I just want to repeat the sound.
34:58 Plus, it takes a lot of money to make a software.
35:01 If someone sends you money on iTunes in six months,
35:05 - 600 dollars, 800 dollars. - Yes.
35:07 It's not like you get a deal
35:10 where you make a video and give it to the record label.
35:13 They'll run it on all the channels.
35:15 You have to be on YouTube,
35:16 - your producer... - Consistently content.
35:19 You have to put content.
35:21 You get paid on YouTube.
35:23 You just have to send money to the record label on iTunes or Spotify.
35:27 No more record labels.
35:29 None of them ever paid artists anything.
35:31 Okay?
35:32 From Queen, to The Beatles, to Led Zeppelin,
35:36 everyone died crying.
35:38 Who did Pink Floyd write songs for?
35:39 He wrote about record labels.
35:40 "Come on, dear boy, have a cigar."
35:43 "You're gonna go."
35:44 "Fly high, you're never gonna die."
35:46 "You're gonna make it if you try."
35:48 "We're gonna love you."
35:50 - They were expressing their frustration. - Of course.
35:52 Queen's "Death On Two Legs" is a song about record label executives.
35:56 The system never relied on musicians and artists.
36:01 But now it's in your hands.
36:03 - No, it's not. - No.
36:04 We're part of a bigger matrix.
36:07 You're either a part of it.
36:09 You have a credit card.
36:11 You have a contactless card.
36:14 - One way or the other, you're just there. - It's on your computer.
36:17 You're there, you're not, you're not.
36:18 - The story is over. - No doubt, Ali Azmat,
36:21 you have a very different mindset.
36:24 But the journey I saw in your life,
36:28 where you started and where you've come to,
36:30 you're an inspiration.
36:31 You're Pakistan's best producer.
36:34 There's no better thing than this.
36:37 A rock star, not just in Pakistan,
36:40 but in the world,
36:42 at whatever level he performed.
36:44 - You're just being humble. - No, I'm not.
36:46 I'm being honest.
36:49 In my entire school,
36:51 through college,
36:53 I've never been to a stadium without Junoon's song.
36:57 I've never been without his voice.
36:59 I salute you today.
37:01 I salute you.
37:02 What a great salute.
37:04 And the person we're going to tribute today,
37:10 according to me, and my generation,
37:14 is a legendary guitarist of the global level.
37:17 Amir Zaki.
37:18 Amir Zaki.
37:21 Not just a guitarist,
37:23 he was a composer and a songwriter.
37:26 No matter what album you pick, from the 80s to the 90s to 2000,
37:31 it's not possible that Amir Zaki didn't play a session on that album.
37:36 He was born in Riyadh in 1968.
37:38 He's been playing the guitar since he was 12 or 13.
37:40 He was so skilled,
37:42 and he improvised so well,
37:44 that he was noticed by the world.
37:46 And he performed with the world's greatest musicians and legends.
37:52 In 1995, he released his solo album, Signature,
37:56 and the song was titled "Mera Pyar Tum Hi Ho".
37:58 It was so famous and a hit, that it gained global fame.
38:02 I personally think that the level of the performer,
38:06 the level of the guitarist, the level of the composer,
38:08 we didn't value them and didn't give them the right.
38:13 He passed away at the age of 49.
38:16 Amir Zaki, the greatest musician in Pakistan,
38:20 the greatest guitarist ever, a legend.
38:22 We're going to tribute him today.
38:24 Thank you so much.
38:27 And with that, ladies and gentlemen, good night.
38:30 We'll meet again next week.
38:31 Thank you.
38:32 Thank you.
38:34 Amazing.
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39:11 Come on!