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00:00 Sam, good morning.
00:01 - Morning, and good morning to our viewers.
00:03 I hope you're doing well.
00:04 It's been a while.
00:05 - I am, I am doing well under the circumstances I always say.
00:09 We must make the most of the circumstances,
00:11 no matter what.
00:13 But I see you're growing a bit of a stub.
00:16 Is it the politics, is it the work,
00:21 is it running around, or the economy that is--
00:24 - It's a combination of all.
00:25 - It's a combination of all.
00:26 - My wife doesn't like the stub because--
00:28 - She doesn't like it?
00:29 - She says that, because the stub is all gray.
00:31 And once it grows, she says that then it shows
00:35 that I'm aging too fast.
00:36 And so, she doesn't like it.
00:38 - But you're not getting any younger.
00:41 We are all getting--
00:42 - But she doesn't want that one.
00:44 She wants to keep, she says that I look young and nice
00:46 without the stub.
00:47 So wake her up, okay, wake up past seven,
00:49 she's watching this morning.
00:51 She's going to tell me to--
00:52 - Well, I'm going to lend my support to her.
00:54 - I see that.
00:55 - She's actually right.
00:57 - Exactly.
00:58 - So this fits you.
00:59 It's not bad, but you know--
01:01 - I mean, I grew the beard for a while,
01:03 and it was all gray, and I said maybe gray hair
01:07 is a sign of being the MP for Ningo Prampam,
01:11 if you understand what I mean.
01:13 You know, MPs for Ningo Prampam carry gray,
01:15 either on the hair or in the beard.
01:16 - You remind me of ET, may his soul rest in peace.
01:21 But there's something I have,
01:23 I'm just starting on a lighter note,
01:24 there's something I've noticed about leadership,
01:27 and sometimes the toll it takes on people.
01:29 Do you remember Obama when he took office?
01:31 I mean, black, head of hair and everything,
01:34 within a short period,
01:36 Charlie, the man go gray, like,
01:37 I mean, he had all these tafts off.
01:40 And then, former president, Mahama--
01:42 - Mahama, the same thing.
01:42 - I was actually surprised,
01:44 because when I saw that it was within a certain period,
01:46 I was like, "Eh, what's going on?"
01:48 - Unfortunately, you can't see on the radon,
01:51 because he's completely bald.
01:53 - Please, this table you are shaking at, baby.
01:55 - No, I'm just saying,
01:56 we would have seen the same with him,
01:58 but he's bald, he doesn't even have hair to show.
01:59 - President Kufu, I'm just trying to think about
02:01 whether, I don't think I really saw--
02:03 - I haven't really seen him with gray.
02:05 - Former president Kufu.
02:06 - But I'm sure we didn't see that gray because of Yomo.
02:09 Oh yes, look, chief, you can't sit in that job--
02:14 - Sam George.
02:15 - You can't sit in that job and not gray.
02:17 So I'm pretty confident that if,
02:19 because like you pointed out,
02:21 I don't remember seeing President Kufu with gray hair.
02:23 - I don't recall.
02:24 It's after the presidency, many years ago.
02:27 - But I'm sure if we didn't see gray in the 80s--
02:28 - I don't know about the Yomo,
02:30 but I have seen, now that you talk about Yomo,
02:34 I have seen former, under the NDC and under the MPP,
02:37 I've seen some of your aging members.
02:40 In fact, sometimes it's so obvious,
02:43 you can actually see, you interview there,
02:45 you can see the man, and you're like,
02:47 "Why are you fighting?"
02:48 "What's going on?"
02:49 - Yeah, but you see,
02:52 when you are entrusted with setting positions,
02:56 it's not just political.
02:57 The pressure it comes with--
02:58 - The pressure.
02:59 - It takes a toll.
03:00 - It's real.
03:01 - And for me, I play football.
03:02 The time it takes me to recover after every game now--
03:09 - It's increasing.
03:10 - Yes, I can tell that, when I celebrate a birthday,
03:14 I say, "I did one year, but I have aged five."
03:17 You get it.
03:19 - The body's not reacting the same way.
03:21 - No, no, no, no, no, no.
03:22 It's like, when you get a spare for politics,
03:24 it's like your age, you become dog years.
03:26 You know, they say one year for dogs,
03:28 12 years or something, human years.
03:31 'Cause the pressure, the sheer pressure you have to deal with.
03:33 But I mean, it's what it is, and we choose to do this,
03:36 and we have to deal with it.
03:36 But that's the moral reason why
03:38 we need to take our health very seriously,
03:41 and make sure that we have regular checkups.
03:44 Not just for us, everybody, you need to check up regularly.
03:48 I'm not a fan of hospitals, but my wife has insisted,
03:52 "Charlie, you need to get yourself checked
03:54 "at the beginning of the year, mid-year,
03:56 "just to be sure that everything is intact."
04:00 Recently, we lost a member of parliament,
04:02 Honorable Baswa.
04:03 He's still resting in peace.
04:06 It was health, it was stress-related.
04:11 He had a bit of complication,
04:12 and that's the time parliament was sitting
04:14 till almost midnight.
04:16 So we had sat till midnight the previous day.
04:18 He gets home, goes to bed, and doesn't wake up.
04:21 It was clearly stress.
04:24 We need to manage this thing.
04:27 The sedentary nature, especially for members of parliament,
04:30 you go sit in the parliament, in the chamber,
04:32 for hours on end.
04:33 We all just need to take care of ourselves.
04:37 And I've been talking about it,
04:40 especially with this dialysis thing.
04:44 When you look at people reporting with kidney failures now,
04:47 it's young people.
04:48 It's more and more younger people.
04:51 And it's because we, look, I'm gonna say something--
04:55 - It's the things we are eating?
04:56 - I'm gonna say something that Ghanaian youth
04:57 would not be very happy about,
04:59 but we are very responsible
05:00 when it comes to our healthcare and our life choices.
05:06 The people who have developed kidney challenges
05:09 by no fault of theirs, but a majority of the young people
05:12 reporting with these things, it's just horrible,
05:15 irresponsible life choices.
05:17 They're smoking like locomotive engines.
05:19 They've dumped cigarettes and have jumped on
05:23 that killer called Shisha.
05:25 And it is killing, you drive around Accra,
05:30 around East Lagoon, and you see young people
05:32 putting off steam like locomotive engines,
05:38 all in the name of fashion.
05:40 The flavor death for you in pineapple and whatever,
05:43 and watermelon, and you are licking death.
05:46 I mean, we're not eating well.
05:49 Alcohol, we're a country that has,
05:51 we're a country of just 33 million people,
05:52 we have over almost 100 different types of bitters.
05:56 I mean, all kinds of concoction in the names of aphrodisiacs.
06:01 I mean, it's like we're a sex crazy generation
06:07 that needs to do anything and everything
06:09 just to prove a point.
06:10 We're drinking the wrong things, eating the wrong things,
06:13 and smoking our lungs into oblivion.
06:17 I mean, we need to check our life choices as a country.
06:20 It's a problem, it's a pandemic.
06:22 You know the way that US has declared
06:24 the opioid crisis as a pandemic?
06:26 We need to look at what's going on.
06:27 - Even obesity in the US. - Yes, yes.
06:30 - Sugar addiction.
06:30 - But is it not also because for some youth,
06:33 and we get to interact with a lot of them,
06:35 they feel they suffer from despondency, depression.
06:39 I'll tell you for a fact,
06:40 that while we don't have the statistics,
06:42 a lot of Ghanaian youth are depressed.
06:44 - No, absolutely.
06:45 - And it's on the back of the failures sometimes,
06:49 or most of the time, of the misleadership we suffer.
06:53 The NDC and the MPP, you've been in power,
06:55 but young people across the board feel,
06:58 they feel nothing is going for them.
07:00 Look, there are people, go today,
07:02 go to Abilengpe, around us,
07:03 and I don't want to mention the name,
07:05 close to the fire service,
07:06 you see people queued there every day,
07:08 of historical Canada.
07:09 You see pregnant women with another baby
07:12 at the back in the queue.
07:13 It tells you that something is not happening.
07:16 And sometimes, you know, when someone has nothing to lose,
07:19 they act as though, I mean,
07:21 there were indeed nothing to lose.
07:22 - Yeah, I mean, I agree 100% with you
07:25 that there's been a certain failure of leadership
07:27 across the board with how we've treated
07:31 the young people of our country,
07:32 even worse so under the last seven years,
07:34 because of the kinds of promises that were told to them.
07:37 But you see, I keep saying to the young people
07:41 of this country, our destiny is ours to shape.
07:44 And so you can't see on the back of this ponency,
07:46 in this same climate, the young people
07:49 who are breaking the mold and making it,
07:53 making something out of their lives, they're young people.
07:55 So it comes back to what decisions you choose to make
07:58 and how much of a fighting spirit you have, okay?
08:01 People say, "Oh, Sam George, it's easy for you to say it
08:03 "because you're in politics."
08:05 Well, I didn't get into politics on a silver platter.
08:08 When I chose to come in there,
08:09 I fought against a giant of the game.
08:12 It's the same thing as someone
08:14 who's trying to start a business.
08:16 Nobody got you on a silver platter.
08:18 And so it comes back, you could easily have said,
08:19 "Why?"
08:20 There are several young people who've tried and failed
08:22 at what they've done in politics.
08:24 So it comes back to the decisions you make
08:26 and the amount of effort you're willing to put in.
08:28 It's not important, yes, I agree that times are tough.
08:30 I agree that the situation is dire,
08:33 but out of these ruins, we can raise phoenixes.
08:37 And for me, it comes back to the decisions we make.
08:39 And the fact that times are tough
08:42 is not an excuse for you to kill yourself.
08:44 It's not an excuse for you to engage
08:47 in dangerous lifestyle behavior.
08:49 I mean, at the end of the day, when you lose your life,
08:51 have you solved the problem?
08:53 No, I mean--
08:53 - You have a point.
08:54 We'll get into the hard matters shortly,
08:56 but I couldn't help but recall,
08:59 and I had actually told him,
09:01 his name has escaped me, maybe my producer will help me.
09:04 He is gunning for your seat from the other side,
09:08 the MPP side, I've just forgotten his name.
09:12 And he was here in the studio some weeks back,
09:16 and he, yes, John Akwetimandje, are you familiar with him?
09:21 - I think I saw his poster
09:25 for the first time two days ago.
09:27 - Okay, yeah.
09:27 He was in the studio here with me a few days ago,
09:29 and I said that one of these days,
09:31 we had to arrange for both of you to sit in the studio
09:34 and elaborate on what you have
09:35 for the people of Ndingo Prampram.
09:36 I want to ask you about--
09:37 - When he becomes--
09:38 - What is shaping up?
09:39 - When and if he becomes candidate,
09:41 we can have that conversation.
09:41 - Yes, yes.
09:42 How is Ndingo Prampram shaping up?
09:45 Especially as when he came here,
09:47 he mentioned how much of an indigent he was of the area,
09:50 schools, roads, and all of that.
09:52 He basically suggested, in a nutshell,
09:54 that the worst thing that has happened to Ndingo Prampram.
09:56 How do you react to that?
09:58 - That's an indictment on his government
10:01 and his president.
10:01 You see, I keep saying that
10:03 when people want to get into office,
10:05 they need to understand the office they want to occupy.
10:07 And that's the problem.
10:08 I've been on, I'm on record to have said this on Twitter,
10:11 on social media, in your studios,
10:13 that people must understand
10:14 what the role of a member of parliament is.
10:17 So if you're running and getting in for office,
10:19 and your promise to the people is,
10:20 I'm gonna build you roads,
10:21 I'm gonna build you hospitals--
10:22 - I mean, he spoke of a number of things.
10:24 - Okay, or build you schools.
10:25 Clearly that person is a dishonest person
10:28 who doesn't have what it takes to be a member of parliament
10:31 and end the title honorable.
10:33 Because that person is peddling falsehood and deception.
10:37 Why?
10:38 As an MP, you don't get money to build roads.
10:40 As MP, you don't get money to build schools or hospitals.
10:44 So clearly, if he's promising you
10:46 that those are functions of the district assembly
10:50 and the executive government,
10:51 on the 15th of November,
10:53 the budget for next year is gonna be broad.
10:55 We're gonna pass appropriations.
10:57 The money for building hospitals
10:58 is gonna be given to the Ministry of Health.
11:00 The money for building markets
11:01 is gonna be given to the Minister for Local Government.
11:03 The money for building schools will be education.
11:07 And so roads, roads and highways,
11:09 it doesn't come to you, the MP.
11:11 Your job is to lobby.
11:13 Now, if he's saying, and I agree with him,
11:15 and I've noticed on a bridge in Ningbo, Pampang,
11:20 that if the president doesn't work on it
11:22 and I see him crossing my constituency again,
11:24 I'll stop his convoy.
11:25 I will stop the convoy--
11:26 - You'll stop the president's convoy.
11:27 - Absolutely, with my constituency.
11:29 - You will distract the office of the president.
11:31 - When the president was campaigning,
11:34 was he not being stopped on the campaign trail
11:36 and was he not stopping and campaigning to the people?
11:38 Have you not seen several times they will tell you that,
11:40 oh, the president was moving and a crowd came out
11:43 and they came to say, we love you, Mr. President,
11:45 or they stopped him and he stopped and I didn't.
11:47 That one, he was looking for votes, so he stopped there.
11:49 Now we've given him the votes.
11:51 Now you say we can't tell him.
11:54 When I have written letters--
11:54 - I mean, you can tell him, but to stop the convoy--
11:57 - It is, look, difficult--
11:58 - Doesn't that bother on illegality?
12:00 Does that not bother on illegality?
12:01 - There is no law against it.
12:03 The president is not above the people who give him power.
12:05 - No, but if you're impeding his movement, what is that?
12:07 Why are you impeding him?
12:09 - Because he needs to see what is going on in Ningbo, Pampang.
12:12 Look, I'm gonna share the videos
12:13 with your production right now
12:14 so that you can put it on screen
12:16 for people to see why I am taking such drastic measures.
12:19 And it is not as though,
12:20 look, I have spent the last six months
12:23 literally begging and kissing every, forgive my Greek,
12:26 every ass I need to kiss in this country to fix that break.
12:28 - You could use euphemistic terms.
12:31 - Every backside.
12:32 - Uh-huh, thank you.
12:33 - Kissing every backside I need to kiss.
12:36 They are waiting for my constituents to die
12:39 before they fix that break.
12:40 And I think you need to put it,
12:42 because you see, at times when you speak,
12:44 people don't appreciate why you are speaking that way.
12:46 They think that, oh, Sam George just wants to do politics.
12:49 But look, and I'm sharing this right now
12:53 with your producer so that he can vet it.
12:56 - You can guarantee that this is from that bridge.
12:58 - From Afienya, Dowenya,
12:59 and you have people who are watching your TV,
13:01 your TV, the truth.
13:03 - So share with my team.
13:04 - Yes, and when they put it up,
13:06 if anybody says I am lying, please feel free.
13:07 But this is from, this is the Dowenya,
13:09 it's on the Dowenya-Afienya stretch.
13:12 And I've sent it to Echo right now.
13:15 You know, it is an eyesore
13:18 that we have such a bridge for the last six months.
13:20 And I've been saying to them,
13:21 and they won't fix it until somebody falls in that bridge
13:24 or a car somersaults and dies and has an accident,
13:27 people die.
13:28 Then you will see the government come there
13:30 to come and commiserate and shed crocodile tears.
13:33 For how long must I beg the people we pay a salary
13:37 with our taxes?
13:38 The people of Ndung'o-Pampang pay taxes.
13:40 We are begging, look,
13:41 we're not even talking about the road now.
13:42 We're just talking about the bridge.
13:45 This bridge has deteriorated over the past year.
13:48 And I'm saying to them, look, fix this bridge.
13:51 That's all we're asking for.
13:53 That's all we're asking for.
13:55 You know, how hard can it be?
13:57 And I don't know if Echo has received it,
13:58 but they should please play.
13:59 Because you ask yourself,
14:01 what crime have the people of Ndung'o-Pampang committed?
14:03 I've asked the minister questions,
14:05 I've written letters, I've gone to his office.
14:07 So what more can I do?
14:08 - Here's what we're going to do.
14:09 Please send those videos to me as well.
14:12 Share with me.
14:13 And let's take it from there
14:16 as we try to play those videos.
14:19 - And so-- - If you have my number,
14:20 please share with both of my numbers.
14:22 - I'll check.
14:23 But the point I'm making here is this.
14:26 So when the young man comes here to say
14:28 that there's been no developments in those spaces,
14:33 it's his government that has failed.
14:36 I didn't declare a year of roads.
14:38 His president, and I hear he says,
14:41 when I read his profile two days ago,
14:42 they said he says he's a member of a communications team
14:44 or whatever of the MPP and worked in the IT Secretariat.
14:48 His president declared two years of roads,
14:53 years of roads, twice, part one and part two,
14:54 like a Kumar Wood movie.
14:55 What did they do?
14:58 That was the country.
14:59 Where are the roads?
15:01 Give me your number.
15:02 Where are the roads?
15:03 Where are the roads that they claimed?
15:07 Where are the roads that they claimed?
15:09 They fixed.
15:11 How do you blame me?
15:12 Agenda 111.
15:13 I had been fighting that my district
15:15 deserves a district hospital.
15:17 The president announced Agenda 111.
15:19 I congratulated the president.
15:22 I said, thank you, because I don't care
15:24 who builds the hospital or not.
15:29 I just care that my people have healthcare,
15:31 because imagine that a woman has a breached position
15:34 during her pregnancy.
15:36 They have to take her to Batur or Temer General Hospital.
15:39 She will die.
15:40 And this is happening.
15:41 So when the president announced Agenda 111,
15:43 I celebrated it and said, thank you, Mr. President.
15:45 They promised us I was going to be completed in 2021.
15:48 Well, in 2023, my Agenda 111 is still sitting there.
15:52 You blame me or the president who we pay taxes to?
15:56 His president, his party's leader,
16:00 and he comes to sit here and say that I'm the worst thing.
16:03 If not for me and the interventions I've made
16:06 in Ngo Pram Pram, our situation would have been worse.
16:08 But I'm confident that by God's grace,
16:12 come 2025, John Mahama will be elected as president.
16:15 And after he's elected,
16:18 I will get the opportunity to serve with him.
16:20 My people will elect me as well.
16:22 And then they will see what proper governance is.
16:23 People forget that my two terms have all been in opposition.
16:27 And look, it's not about Sam George saying it.
16:29 Nanado himself said it.
16:31 If you didn't vote for him,
16:33 he doesn't consider you worthy of anything.
16:35 Because when he went to Mepi,
16:38 he told the people of Mepi,
16:39 in the, look, he said this in Ekampo.
16:41 Chief, have you been to Mepi during this period?
16:44 Have you gone to any of the camps?
16:45 - I haven't.
16:46 - I have.
16:47 The situation there is dire.
16:49 You can't, you cannot, look.
16:51 - We've been on the ground.
16:52 - Yes, I know you've been there.
16:53 - We've seen the footage.
16:54 We've seen everything that is.
16:55 - Chief, trust me, when you go there
16:57 and speak to your colleagues who've gone there,
16:58 when you go there, the footages don't do justice to it.
17:01 There's, when you get on the ground
17:05 and see how your fellow human beings are living,
17:08 you see what has happened to their livelihood.
17:11 I always felt like, oh, it was fine, until I went there.
17:14 And since I've gone there, almost every three days,
17:17 I'm arranging some kind of relief material
17:19 through friends I have, and say, look,
17:20 let's go there and go and help.
17:22 Because you understand,
17:24 except you lack a milk of human compassion,
17:26 you can't go to Mepi and not feel sad.
17:29 Look, the statistics Child Rights International put out,
17:32 almost 20,000 children have been affected.
17:35 Some of them are now being sexually abused.
17:37 Just yesterday, I asked a friend to say,
17:39 I said, look, everybody's sending food and mattresses.
17:42 But when I went there,
17:43 I realized that there are many young girls.
17:45 The menstrual cycle doesn't wait.
17:46 - Sanitary pads and all of that.
17:47 - So I said to him, he was gonna buy food and food items,
17:50 almost a million Ghana cities worth.
17:51 I said, go and buy sanitary towels and let's send to them.
17:54 And yesterday, we sent it to Okujeto's place.
17:56 Because, look, chief, everybody seems to have forgotten
17:59 that these are human beings.
18:00 In that condition, President Akufo-Addo went in the studio
18:02 and was talking about votes.
18:04 That's what matters to him.
18:05 And so, if that is his behavior,
18:08 you think that he will come and do something for Sam George
18:11 when he knows that Sam George did not vote for him
18:15 and campaigns against him.
18:16 And I tell him to his face that I'll keep beating his party.
18:19 - So let's do this.
18:20 We have the videos now that you've sent.
18:22 We're going to share that Afinyad Dawenya bridge.
18:25 - This is a bridge.
18:26 - That is the bridge that you're looking at there.
18:29 Wow.
18:31 So this is--
18:33 - This is a death trap.
18:36 - Absolutely.
18:36 - And if you use the stretch at night without--
18:40 - If you don't know the bridge--
18:42 - Look at what is going to happen to you.
18:43 - Wait, do vehicles still use this?
18:45 - Vehicles still use this.
18:47 School children still walk on this thing.
18:49 The structure underneath is broken.
18:51 Underneath is broken.
18:52 So you have to gauge and--
18:53 - You need the metal--
18:55 - It's all metal.
18:56 You go, if you look through the hole,
18:58 you see many of the metal beams all loosen up.
19:02 - Okay, so that's a motorbike using it right now.
19:05 - Cars still use it.
19:06 And I've been begging for six months.
19:10 - You know, we had the recent one, is it the Doli bridge?
19:14 - Yes, that's what they're waiting for.
19:16 They want this one to collapse with people on it
19:19 before they come and fix it.
19:20 What crime have we committed?
19:22 - When was the last time you spoke
19:23 to the Rhodes minister on this matter?
19:25 - Six weeks ago.
19:26 - Six weeks ago?
19:27 - Six weeks ago.
19:28 - Because I went there six weeks ago--
19:29 - How long have you been speaking to him on this matter?
19:31 - I started speaking to him in April on this bridge.
19:34 In April, because it had been deteriorating.
19:36 We had written letters, filed questions.
19:38 In April, I went to his office with videos,
19:40 these videos, and showed it to him.
19:42 They said, "Oh, Sam, they will come."
19:44 When I sent this video to his office,
19:49 he then sent, it was a Wednesday,
19:51 the Saturday, the following Saturday,
19:53 he sent the director of bridges
19:56 to come and look at the bridge for himself.
19:58 The director of bridges saw it and was shocked.
20:00 And then immediately called for the bridge engineering unit
20:02 of the Ghana Highways Authority
20:04 to come from Koforidria, where they are based.
20:06 - So we have a director of bridges?
20:08 - Yes, there is a director of bridges in this country.
20:11 So he came, Saturday morning, I met him there with my team.
20:15 He looked at it, they were sent to come,
20:18 whoever, the engineers came.
20:21 After they came, what they said to me is that
20:23 they are waiting for approval for funds.
20:28 The last time I checked, and I checked with Dr. Bass,
20:31 Dr. Bass Awolu, the chief director.
20:33 I called him, I said, "Doc, what is going on?"
20:35 Then they say to me, "Oh, we've been able to get the plates,
20:38 "the metal plates and the metal beams,
20:40 "but we need money to come and do installation."
20:44 It's been another six weeks, no such thing.
20:46 - So in other words, they finally,
20:47 after the six months or so,
20:49 they finally procured the metal plate and the beams.
20:51 - That's what they claim, we haven't seen anything.
20:53 - But they don't have the logistics to come and execute.
20:56 That's the story we are being told.
20:58 That's the story we are being told.
21:00 But I'm saying to you, God forbid, thatch wood,
21:02 knock on wood, let somebody die in that bridge today,
21:05 tomorrow they'll come and fix it.
21:07 I don't know what human sacrifice they want
21:09 before they fix, they do their job.
21:11 I mean, look, and so when I speak
21:15 with the kind of passion I do, it's because of this.
21:18 And look, as for the road, that leads to this.
21:21 It's an eyesore, I'm not even talking about the road.
21:23 We are managing the road with our bone shaker,
21:24 we know you won't do it for us.
21:26 There's a contractor on it, Simeon Garner, seven years.
21:29 Seven years, but fine, just fix the bridge.
21:35 Because look, this bridge, this road,
21:38 is what links the Thema Akosumbu and Thema Aflao roads.
21:43 So if you were coming from, say, Jwa Pong,
21:46 and going to Sugakope, when you get to Afi Enya,
21:50 all you need to do is take this road
21:53 and come out at Do Enya,
21:55 and then head for Sugakope.
21:57 That's if you were coming along
21:59 the Akosumbu road or from Pong.
22:01 But now, given the state of this road and this bridge,
22:03 you have to go all the way to Thema,
22:05 and then come through Thema and Pong.
22:09 I mean, why?
22:10 - So, I mean, as we move the conversation forward,
22:14 Mr. President, I know you can't resolve all the problems
22:18 in one fell swoop, but this is the plight
22:23 of the people of Ningo, Prampram,
22:25 the Afi Enya, Do Enya bridge.
22:28 It's something that, I mean,
22:30 it's a disaster in the waiting.
22:32 Could you please, Your Excellency,
22:35 get Kwesi Amwakwata, the road minister,
22:38 to get this fixed in as short a period as possible?
22:43 We don't need for someone to die
22:46 before we do something about it.
22:49 That's our humble plea to you this morning, Mr. President.
22:53 - Thank you.
22:54 All right, so let's get into it.
22:55 It's interesting because on Friday, in my blunt thoughts,
22:58 there are some interesting things I'm bringing up,
23:00 and one of them has to do with roads.
23:03 In fact, the road I'm going to bring to your attention,
23:05 but I'll not tell you about it.
23:07 On Friday, you will see,
23:08 and then I'll show you some dynamics.
23:10 It will make you wonder why, as a country,
23:12 we do what we do.
23:14 But let's get into, it's good you've shared the videos
23:18 with us, we've put them out,
23:19 and I'm sure some attention will come--
23:21 - I'm most grateful to Multimedia and Joy
23:23 for supporting us in this.
23:25 - Again, we have the Akosombo situation, the dam spillage.
23:30 Well, in a related story,
23:35 a rainstorm has killed five Adbedu.
23:38 I'm sure you've followed that story.
23:40 It had to do with activities marking the annual yam festival
23:45 and unfortunately, there were simply playing football
23:47 on the pitch.
23:49 Five people, young people, gone.
23:51 You look at the front page of the Daily Graphic,
23:53 "Countries' youth make future bright."
23:55 That's according to Olaf Scholz, the German chancellor.
23:58 And the youth, this is what is happening to them.
24:01 But when you look at the dam's spillage
24:04 and everything that has happened,
24:05 I know we started talking about it.
24:08 From where you sit, what more can be done,
24:12 especially now that the Speaker of Parliament,
24:14 Alban Sumana Kingsford-Bagman,
24:17 says there must be a probe into the matter?
24:20 I've heard the Energy Minister speak on that matter.
24:25 Where do you sit?
24:26 And do you think we really should be apportioning blame
24:30 or healing and moving forward?
24:32 - Both.
24:33 You can't heal if you don't hold people responsible
24:38 for their actions and inactions.
24:40 I'll state one thing here,
24:43 and people should not misconstrue what I'm about to say.
24:47 I am not against the spillage
24:48 because the spillage was inevitable.
24:52 The dam is a work of engineering.
24:57 It has a limit of what I can take.
24:59 If we did not spill the dam,
25:01 there would be no,
25:06 in fact, when we're talking about the disaster in Mipi,
25:09 the whole of Akosumbu Township,
25:12 Ong, the whole of Adan,
25:16 Shai Osudoku, Ningo Prampam,
25:19 Punkatamansu, Asiaman, Thema,
25:22 all the way to Adenta and parts of Madina
25:25 would have been washed into the sea, completely.
25:28 - Literally submerged.
25:30 - Not submerged, they would have been washed into the sea.
25:32 There would be none of those cities again.
25:35 So the dam spillage was inevitable.
25:39 However, the dam spillage did not happen,
25:44 was not occasioned overnight.
25:46 GMAT is on record to have been providing
25:51 the forecast and projections of rainfall pattern
25:56 to the engineers at VRE.
25:59 - That has not always been correct.
26:01 I mean, they will tell you, for example,
26:02 that there was a time when there was a forecast,
26:05 nothing happened.
26:06 And they had made the announcements and everything.
26:10 - They're not good.
26:11 - So with rain, sometimes it's not projected
26:14 that it will rain that heavily.
26:15 And then you have to have the--
26:16 - If you look at the projections GMAT had been making,
26:18 it was clear that we're having
26:19 some significant rainfalls upstream.
26:22 It was clear.
26:22 There's no weather forecast that's 100% perfect.
26:28 I mean, you can't be good.
26:29 You don't make rain.
26:33 So you can expect a setting level of discontent
26:37 with the facts.
26:38 But given what GMAT provided,
26:40 we were clearly seeing the water levels rise.
26:43 Now, the question you should ask yourself is this.
26:46 There are several measures that are used
26:48 to control the water level.
26:49 One of them is to start firing
26:53 all the six turbines in the dam.
26:55 Because when you fire all the six turbines,
26:59 each turbine turns on the back of water.
27:02 So the water held in the reservoir,
27:04 because most times they fire only three turbines.
27:07 They fire only three turbines.
27:08 - In fact, the VRA has been telling us
27:09 that they were even controlling the spillage,
27:11 using two or three, because they couldn't--
27:13 - So, but most times what you do--
27:15 - It would have been more of a disaster.
27:16 - Yeah, what you do is you fire all the six turbines.
27:18 Then you use more water in the dam.
27:21 How soon did they start doing that?
27:23 One.
27:25 Two.
27:27 You need to ask yourself,
27:28 when was the last time the VRA dredged downstream the lake?
27:33 - That has come into question in recent times.
27:35 - Because you see, you've had a lake
27:38 that has been the downstream of the lake.
27:40 You've had a lot of building going in the Adan area,
27:45 Akosumbo area, and all of this have brought debris
27:47 and silt into the lake.
27:51 Has the VRA done any desilting in the last 30 years?
27:56 You should come and tell us.
27:57 Because you see, if you desilt the lake,
28:00 the basin is deeper and is able to hold a lot more water.
28:04 - The volume of water, right.
28:06 - But when you allow silt to build up,
28:08 the slightest spill will break its banks.
28:11 So first and foremost, the VRA has to come and tell us,
28:14 one, when did they start firing all six turbines?
28:16 Two, what contingency measures did they make
28:20 relative to the rising waters?
28:22 Three, did they do any dredging of the dam downstream?
28:27 The lake downstream?
28:28 And then four--
28:29 - Is that the prerogative of the VRA though?
28:31 In terms of the dredging?
28:32 - Yes, yes.
28:33 - And of course, the cost involved.
28:35 - The lake is, yes.
28:36 It's yes, yes.
28:37 The dredging is their responsibility.
28:38 It's no other person's responsibility.
28:40 It is VRA's responsibility.
28:42 They have a badge that does dredging.
28:45 That's a whole different story.
28:49 - Not to even talk about,
28:50 even as we talk about this, lest I forget,
28:52 the stumps in some areas.
28:54 - Yes, in some of the areas.
28:55 - And the damage they pose to people on canoes
28:57 and other things.
28:58 - Look, and when it comes to the dredging badge,
29:01 that's a completely different story for another.
29:03 It's a scandal on its own.
29:04 We'll come to it.
29:06 Then they must also tell us,
29:08 at what time, what calculations did they do
29:12 to begin the spillage?
29:13 They started the spillage in September,
29:15 around the 15th of September.
29:17 Why did that spilling not start two weeks earlier?
29:20 - Why do you think it should have started two weeks earlier?
29:22 Because if you had started it earlier,
29:25 you have been spilling out in a controlled measure
29:27 over a longer period of time.
29:31 What caused this flooding in Midi?
29:32 - They have explained that they were interacting
29:34 with members of the communities.
29:36 They had to get people in the know and all of that.
29:38 That takes time, doesn't it?
29:39 That thing is an insult to all of us,
29:43 and I don't want to insult them,
29:45 as I would have insulted them in Ghana.
29:47 Please don't.
29:48 - Because you see, you can't come and tell me.
29:50 You go to a community.
29:52 You've been doing spillage every year,
29:55 but you've been doing controlled spillage.
29:57 They do 20,000 gallons per second,
30:00 which is what they started on the 15th of September.
30:02 And so if you are doing 20,000 gallons,
30:04 and the people know that when you normally spill,
30:07 this is what the effect is,
30:09 and you knew that you were going to move
30:10 from 20,000 to 50,000 to 100,000 gallons per second,
30:15 chief, second rule.
30:17 Did you tell the people that this is what is gonna happen?
30:21 And when you say you told, you engaged the people,
30:23 did you give them a relocation place?
30:25 So, man, I come to you and say,
30:29 I'm coming to spill water, so go.
30:30 Go where?
30:31 Go where?
30:33 Did they make any arrangement for them?
30:35 If you were not going, did you do a forced evacuation?
30:38 Look, there are clear failures on the part of VRA,
30:43 on the part of central government,
30:45 and you know, a bigger failure is our inability
30:49 to have a response mechanism to this.
30:51 When VRA decided to move to 100,000 gallons per second,
30:56 they knew what was gonna happen.
30:57 They knew.
31:00 They knew that the towns were gonna be submerged.
31:02 What conversation--
31:03 - But that was, it was a catch-22 situation.
31:06 It's either that or--
31:07 - Or the dam. - The dam is breached.
31:09 - And that's what I'm saying--
31:10 - And of course, you would look at--
31:11 - And that's what I'm saying--
31:12 - While we are sensitive to what is happening
31:13 to our brothers and sisters, you would look at--
31:15 - I started by saying that I'm not against the spillage.
31:17 - The lesser evil.
31:18 - I started by saying I'm not against the spillage,
31:19 but this is like a doctor to whom we take a sick patient.
31:23 When we take a sick patient to the doctor,
31:26 instead of the doctor, the child,
31:28 the person has an infection.
31:30 Ben, the person has an infection.
31:33 He needs a treatment of antibiotics
31:36 to deal with the infection.
31:38 The doctor chose to be administering paracetamol
31:41 until the infection got so deep
31:44 that the person is on the point of death,
31:49 and then he now starts administering
31:50 a seven-day dose of antibiotics.
31:54 On day two, the patient dies.
31:55 Who killed the patient?
31:56 The doctor will tell you that, yes,
31:59 he administered antibiotics,
32:00 but when that patient came 10 days ago,
32:03 if you had administered the antibiotics,
32:06 possibly you would have completed a seven-day dose,
32:08 and that would have given the patient
32:10 a better chance of survival.
32:11 But you did not do that until two days
32:13 till the person died.
32:14 So if you start spilling at a certain point in time,
32:18 and nobody's against the spillage,
32:19 I've said that already.
32:20 We need to protect the integrity of the dam, yes,
32:23 but why didn't you start spilling earlier,
32:25 given the projections and the calculations?
32:27 And the point on disaster management
32:31 is that NADMO has been useless.
32:33 Completely useless.
32:35 - They complain about the fact
32:37 that they simply don't have the resources to do it.
32:39 - Exactly, because we've rendered NADMO useless.
32:41 How much money do we give to NADMO?
32:43 How much money do we give to NADMO?
32:46 Our preparedness, look, you look at other jurisdictions.
32:49 FEMA, in the US, FEMA moves and responds with resources,
32:54 and you are able to get--
32:59 - I mean, there's no way you can justifiably expect NADMO
33:02 to do anything without resources.
33:03 They are handicapped.
33:04 - And that's what I'm saying, it's a failure of government.
33:05 That's why I said VRA is responsible,
33:08 the central government is responsible,
33:10 because when this happened,
33:12 we should have had immediate response for them.
33:15 Do you know how many MEPE, 32,000 people
33:20 at the last count were displaced?
33:22 You know how many tents NADMO sent there?
33:24 Three.
33:25 (speaking in foreign language)
33:28 Three.
33:29 Three.
33:31 - I know certain safe havens were created,
33:33 but let's school buildings--
33:35 - Just to move--
33:36 - School blocks without doors and windows.
33:38 - I get your point, but even as we talk about the problem,
33:41 I want us to quickly talk about the MPP primaries
33:43 before we end.
33:45 What are your solutions?
33:47 - Solutions for--
33:48 - For this entire bit we are talking about,
33:51 the spillage and everything in between.
33:53 You've mentioned dredging.
33:55 What else do we do?
33:56 To forestall, I mean, it's happened.
33:58 - No, right now--
33:59 - What do we do to forestall similar incidents?
34:00 - Look, I've heard talks about,
34:02 oh, the water is receding,
34:03 we are going to look at fumigating the buildings.
34:05 Look, you can't live in those buildings, I'm saying it.
34:09 People's fecal matter was on the surface of the water.
34:13 It stayed in people's houses for weeks.
34:15 You can't expect human beings to live in those buildings.
34:18 Government must have a proper resettlement plan.
34:22 When the Apiati disaster happened, what did government do?
34:25 Government set up a fund and reached out to private sector
34:28 to put money into it,
34:30 and they built a new Apiati township.
34:33 We need to build a new MPP township, at the very least.
34:37 Government must put its mouth where its money is.
34:41 - When the Champon announced--
34:42 - We don't have the money, do we?
34:44 - Oh.
34:45 - IMF bailouts, even the $600 million that we're anticipating.
34:49 I mean, to be realistic, do we have the funds to do this?
34:52 Do we?
34:54 - The money that's going to be spent on the MPP primaries
34:57 between Thursday and Saturday
34:58 will build a new MPP township.
35:00 The money that's going to be paid to delegates of the MPP
35:06 between Thursday nights and Saturday,
35:09 when they will have their primaries,
35:10 will build a new MPP township.
35:12 - You have any evidence based on which you're saying--
35:15 - I have seen an interview
35:16 of Kennedy Japan's campaign manager.
35:19 - That has been debunked by--
35:21 - Where he says--
35:21 - The campaign, the Baumya campaign team.
35:23 - Where he says, oh wait,
35:24 where he says inducements are paid.
35:28 And that's a fact, I have said it before.
35:32 But the levels of inducement being paid
35:34 by the Baumya campaign,
35:36 and even by the Ken campaign,
35:39 Abba, Maza, put it together.
35:42 So when we say we don't have money,
35:43 but Baumya can find that money,
35:46 where is he getting the money from?
35:47 - But I'm telling you the $800 million claim,
35:49 I mean, that is absurd.
35:51 - I haven't said $800 million.
35:52 - That is absurd.
35:53 - And his campaign has debunked it.
35:55 - I mean, $800 million--
35:56 - As a country, we are getting how much from the IMF.
35:59 - It sounds, yes.
36:00 - No, but when you consider that a boiler minister
36:03 could have more than--
36:06 - Sanitation and water resources.
36:07 - Yes, but that's boiler.
36:09 - Sanitation and water resources.
36:10 - Sanitation and water resources,
36:12 that deal with boiler and Zoom line.
36:14 The minister responsible for that
36:16 had enough money in her house
36:18 that $1 million was stolen,
36:20 and she didn't recognize.
36:22 Then the money that is there,
36:24 remember Sheikh Issa Kuei,
36:25 the money is big,
36:26 this is the real, the money is big.
36:28 So if boiler minister had this,
36:31 the vice president is there, try it.
36:33 - All right.
36:35 - Look, if you're not careful,
36:37 the individuals in the MPP themselves
36:40 are in a position to give the financial bailout
36:42 you are taking from the IMF.
36:44 The money's diluted.
36:46 - And your evidence is?
36:47 - Obama and NME, Bonner.
36:51 Obama and NME.
36:52 - I'm merely asking you, where's your evidence?
36:54 - We see them, we see their lifestyles,
36:55 we see the things they're saying,
36:56 and they themselves are saying it.
36:58 You've had Ken himself--
37:00 - Do your colleague members of parliament,
37:02 do they say these things?
37:03 - Oh, we've had--
37:04 - On that side, ministers, do they say these things?
37:06 - We've had an MPP MP who is contesting for re-election,
37:10 saying that, on the day, he has dollars he's going to pay.
37:14 - That I have.
37:15 - Bibieni and Yansu Bekwa, or something,
37:17 Alfred Robin, former Boston D.
37:21 I don't know if that's his constancy,
37:22 he's from the Western region there somewhere.
37:23 He says he's waiting for anybody who'll contest him,
37:26 he knows they want to take him out.
37:27 Whatever they'll pay, he'll pay more,
37:29 and he has dollars, he's packed the dollars.
37:31 It's not me saying it, he's the one saying it.
37:35 He's the other one saying it.
37:36 So this is not some judge alluding,
37:38 that's not me, not even people I can obey by name.
37:40 Because they are saying it.
37:42 It's not my allegation, it's their own confession.
37:44 - Since you've already started on that trajectory,
37:46 just to cap off the conversation,
37:47 the MPP primaries, both presidential and primary,
37:52 Tidja Kujo in Tepa, in Yinesoso, says,
37:56 "Ex-president Mahama has been leading in all polls
37:58 "because the MPP hasn't chosen its flag bearer yet.
38:01 "The polls will start to tilt toward Baumea
38:04 "when he's chosen as the flag bearer."
38:06 I'll leave it off here,
38:08 the rest are acknowledgments and all of that.
38:11 On November the 4th, the MPP will choose
38:16 its presidential candidate, the flag bearer.
38:19 Dr. Baumea has said that he is the only one
38:24 who can get the NDC quaking in its boots.
38:28 He has said, as the Daily Guide newspaper captures today,
38:31 "You can bet on me."
38:34 And the other contenders,
38:35 while they've had their grievances,
38:37 Dr. Ifriye Akoto has had his grievances,
38:40 Adai Nimo has had his grievances,
38:42 Kennedy Ejepo has had his grievances,
38:45 but the acknowledgement is that he is in a pole position.
38:48 He's in a comfortable lead to actually become flag bearer
38:53 and lock horns with John Mahama.
38:56 How do you react, and what do you make of all of this?
38:59 - Let me just, just so that I am clear,
39:02 the "you can bet on me," is it a direct quote
39:04 or it is the story, the newspaper's own couching?
39:09 Is it a direct quote from him?
39:09 - So let me...
39:11 - 'Cause I see it's in the inverted commas.
39:16 I want to be sure it's, 'cause I want to say
39:18 something about that.
39:19 - Well, I do see here his saying,
39:21 "To crown it all, I am the one the NDC fears the most,
39:24 "and with good reason.
39:25 "They know with me as candidate,
39:26 "they will not have a campaign message.
39:28 "I will look for it to find out whether he actually says
39:30 "that you can bet on me." - Because if he had said
39:31 "you can bet on me," directly, I'd have been asking myself,
39:34 why, now as a Muslim, betting is allowed?
39:36 - Well, it says here that he has urged delegates
39:39 to put their bet on him.
39:41 - So he's promoting betting.
39:42 - So this is our vice president.
39:44 Muslim by day, Christian by night.
39:46 - To bet on me is, is...
39:48 - Is what? - It doesn't necessarily mean.
39:51 - He's promoting betting, continue.
39:53 And then finish, go and call somebody malam.
39:55 - You know, but you see, no matter what it is that is said,
40:00 or no matter how much, there's a saying that,
40:05 no matter the amount of milk, you know,
40:09 or the amount of rain that is poured on a leopard,
40:13 the one who's the sports.
40:14 We know Baumea.
40:17 In the words of his own wife, Samira Baumea,
40:20 we know him, we see him,
40:23 and we can see the colossal failure he has been.
40:25 How does anybody think that the man we made responsible
40:32 for our economy and the management of our economy,
40:35 that has tanked this economy,
40:39 sent this economy into an IMF bailout program,
40:43 the man who was sold to us as an economic whiz kid,
40:48 we were told he knows where the money is.
40:51 President Kufuo brought him.
40:52 Remember that soundtrack, soundbite by President Kufuo?
40:55 That he picked Baumea because he was at the government,
40:58 Bank of Ghana.
40:59 He knows where the money is.
41:01 That's why he made the famous (speaking in foreign language)
41:05 That man was brought in.
41:08 And then, the dollar he inherited at four cities,
41:13 that led Gabby to say, to launch a hashtag,
41:16 bring back our city campaign.
41:18 Now that dollar yesterday is trading at 12.1.
41:22 12.1.
41:23 The man who was brought in at a time
41:27 were buying a gallon of fuel at 15 Ghana cities.
41:32 Today, we're buying a liter.
41:35 It's dropped from the almost 17 cities
41:38 to about 13 cities, 12 cities thereabout.
41:40 A liter.
41:41 The man who came in when cement was 20 Ghana cities,
41:48 today we are buying cement at 92 Ghana cities,
41:51 under his watch.
41:52 And they say that he's the Messiah.
41:56 - But if you have all this--
41:57 - He's the sum coming in.
41:58 - If you have all this baggage on him,
41:59 you should actually be rooting for him to be elected.
42:02 - Oh, me, I want him to be elected, though.
42:04 - You do? - Oh, yes.
42:05 Like my own cousin, the MP for Botiano, Silvester Tete.
42:10 You know he used to be Alan's campaign manager
42:16 before Alan transmogrified from an elephant to a butterfly.
42:19 And Sly couldn't have the balls to also transmogrify
42:22 to a butterfly.
42:23 But when Sly was campaigning--
42:25 - Such words, please.
42:26 - Elephant to butterfly, why?
42:28 - No, the guts or something.
42:30 - No, I said transmogrify.
42:32 - No, the B word, that's what I am.
42:35 They didn't have the--
42:36 - They didn't have the potu, like that one, rather,
42:40 to transmogrify from an elephant to butterfly.
42:44 But when Sly was the Greater Accra campaign manager,
42:47 he said something very telling.
42:49 He said if Baumea is elected,
42:52 all the NDC needs are cinema bands.
42:54 Our campaign is done.
42:56 We should just go and play all of Baumea's lectures.
42:59 I'll just come here, I'll come and buy airtime from you
43:02 and play his lecture and ask what has changed.
43:04 He's 170 questions to the late Timisa Ata, I'll ask him.
43:08 So me, I want Baumea.
43:09 I want Baumea.
43:12 You get it? - Do you think he'll win?
43:14 - Oh, the election is rigged for him.
43:16 Ah, the kind of intimidation that is going on.
43:19 MPs are being whipped, chief executives are being whipped.
43:22 They are threatening people.
43:24 Oh, anyway, I've always said,
43:26 look, the NDP is a classic mafia organization,
43:29 criminal organization, criminal organization mindset.
43:33 And that is what they are doing.
43:34 - You're referring to the ruling administration,
43:37 the party that is governing this country.
43:39 - They have their criminal mind.
43:41 - What is criminal about their activities?
43:43 - In the mafia, when the don speaks,
43:47 his enforcers go and enforce it.
43:49 Nanado has made it clear.
43:52 His heir apparent, who he wants, is Baumea.
43:55 And now all his ministers, all his chief executives,
43:58 all his MPs are running around as enforcers
44:01 because the don has spoken.
44:02 - Yeah, but if the party has decided
44:06 we want a specific candidate, does that make them criminal?
44:08 - It's the party, Nanado.
44:10 - No, but does it make the party criminal?
44:12 - It's the party, Nanado.
44:13 - Does that make the party criminal?
44:15 - Oh no, the criminality part is, for example,
44:17 where they said, "Party in Yensika."
44:19 So they destroyed all our water bodies with Galamsey.
44:22 - Galamsey existed before this party.
44:24 - Not like this.
44:25 Not like this.
44:26 Before this government came into office,
44:27 we all saw the river Praa and the river Densu.
44:30 We saw those rivers, we knew what those rivers were like.
44:33 They were not like this with chocolate drink.
44:35 It is this government that has come in
44:38 and created the mess that we see because party in Yensika.
44:43 So when I say they're a criminally minded organization,
44:46 they put our water safety at risk to enrich themselves.
44:51 Typical example.
44:52 So yeah, party in Yensika.
44:55 The country can go to hell.
44:56 Our water bodies can be destroyed with impunity.
44:59 - Okay, so to cap off the conversation,
45:00 I know what you're saying then is that
45:03 come November the 4th, you are rooting for Dr. Mohamedou Bala.
45:06 - Oh, because that's in there, they fixed it.
45:07 It's like a fix match.
45:09 This one is like a fix match.
45:10 It's Koko Fufu, but they are playing.
45:12 They are going to Mia Ken's neck.
45:14 You know, they'll Mia Ken.
45:17 And then we'll see, it's after November 4th,
45:19 we'll see the showdown.
45:20 The showdown is not on November 4th.
45:22 That one there, Ken is going into this fight
45:25 with his two hands tied behind his back.
45:27 All he has is with his leg to run around
45:29 and they'll be punching, punching him all over the place.
45:31 You will see.
45:32 They will deal with Ken.
45:34 But Mia will win.
45:36 He'll win with like 70 something percent.
45:38 They've cooked the thing.
45:39 They have the figures already.
45:40 They will give him like 70 something,
45:41 about 74, 75 percent.
45:43 That's what they'll give to him.
45:45 Then he will emerge.
45:46 - I didn't know you were working with the electoral commission
45:48 because they are going to be handling this,
45:49 but apparently you have all the data.
45:51 - Oh, I'll show you.
45:52 I have the results for 2024, Kaya.
45:54 - Hey.
45:56 - I'm telling you, you think we're going to sit down
45:57 for Jimenez and MBB to cook figures like they did in 2020
46:02 and change the figures six times?
46:04 - What's wrong with you, man?
46:06 What does that mean?
46:07 - I'm going to get to 2024, you'll see.
46:09 - No, but why?
46:10 - If I won't know it.
46:11 - This sounds like a threat.
46:12 Why are they saying it?
46:12 - Why is it a threat?
46:13 It's not a threat.
46:14 Ah, did the MBB not declare results?
46:18 Did Jimenez not change her results six times
46:20 to match what the MBB declared?
46:22 Okay.
46:22 - Okay, I have to run,
46:23 but this just came to my own,
46:24 the back of what you said.
46:25 Please, briefly, briefly, briefly.
46:27 The talk about 25 new constituencies to be created
46:30 has been debunked by the EC.
46:32 They say it's only the Guam constituency
46:34 they are going to create.
46:35 But should there be, you know,
46:37 a move to create more constituencies?
46:38 - Why?
46:39 - What would you say to that?
46:40 - It's absolute--
46:41 - 20 seconds.
46:42 - Absolute blocks.
46:43 And look, yesterday,
46:44 they tried to fly that kite in Parliament
46:45 and they realized that it won't fly.
46:47 We are creating one,
46:48 and that's what we are creating.
46:49 We don't need to create 25 more constituencies.
46:51 Look, people already complained about 275 MPs.
46:54 We want to make it 300 MPs?
46:56 And do you know that out of the 24
46:58 that were going to be created,
46:59 11 were going to be created in the Ashanti region?
47:02 Alone?
47:03 Why?
47:04 They think that that's the way they will rig the election.
47:06 Well, Mohammed, if you bring it.
47:08 - Sam George is a member of Parliament for Ningo Prampam.
47:10 He joined us for a conversation this morning.
47:12 Mr. George, thank you for your time.
47:14 - Thank you.
47:15 Charlie, let's go find some cocoa and drink
47:16 and make some life for ourselves in this harsh economy.
47:18 But Charlie, hope is coming.
47:20 We'll build the Ghana we want,
47:22 together with John Mohammed, in 2025.
47:25 Inshallah.
47:25 - Well, thank you for staying.
47:28 Up next, we talk health.
47:30 As Dr. Tania Trippett says,
47:33 "No child should be denied the cure of their cancer."
47:36 But that is only if you find it early.
47:38 A couple of weeks ago,
47:39 we had a conversation on a philanthropist
47:41 seeking to build a state-of-the-art,
47:43 first-of-its-kind cancer treatment center in Ghana.
47:47 Today, we'll bring you an update on that project
47:50 and how much more we all can contribute
47:52 to make it a success.
47:54 That conversation up next on the AM Show.
47:56 Do stay.
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