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Transcript

00:00 G'day, I'm Sean and welcome to the Car Expert podcast.

00:02 Joining me as always, Scott Colley,

00:04 the original car expert, he's back.

00:06 - Hello, Sean.

00:06 The original car expert's a good name, I think.

00:08 I might put that in the business card.

00:10 - I think so, yeah.

00:11 Feel free to put it in your email as well.

00:13 So if you email Scott, you might get that as a response.

00:15 And back from her little holiday, Jay Credencina.

00:18 How was your break, Jay?

00:19 - It was so good.

00:20 I also enjoyed last week's episode,

00:22 so shout out to Jack, he did very well.

00:24 - Yeah, Jack did a great job, so.

00:26 - He's coming for that seat, be careful.

00:27 - Yeah, I know.

00:28 - He's trying to find ways to get rid of you,

00:30 so look out, it's time to watch you back.

00:32 Look, we've got a big episode this week.

00:34 We're gonna be talking about

00:35 Australia's public charging infrastructure,

00:37 some funky new number plates

00:39 that are coming out of the United States,

00:41 and the brand new MG4 from China.

00:44 We're gonna have a chat about that a bit later on,

00:45 so stick around for that.

00:47 But let's get straight into it.

00:48 Hyundai have said that the public charging network

00:51 in Australia is unacceptable,

00:52 and I am finding it hard to disagree with them about that.

00:55 Long story short, companies Chargefox and EV

00:59 are in charge of rolling out

01:01 charging infrastructure across Australia.

01:03 - They're two of the big companies

01:04 that are taking on the project, yeah.

01:05 - But there's also next to no accountability

01:07 when you pull in to charge your electric car

01:09 and they're not working,

01:10 which seems to be the case a lot of the time.

01:13 But Scott, you actually wrote the article on this,

01:14 so give us a bit more background.

01:16 - Yeah, so we sat down with Hyundai last week

01:18 for an update on pretty much everything electric

01:21 in their world, that was pricing on the new IONIQ,

01:23 but they also did cover off on the state of charging

01:25 in Australia, and what essentially they're calling for

01:28 is something like what they've got in the UK,

01:30 where you need to have 99% uptime on any public charger,

01:34 you need to be able to pay with a credit card

01:36 that isn't linked to an app or an account,

01:39 and need to tell people what it's gonna cost to charge

01:41 without forcing them to sign up for some app or company

01:44 that tracks their data.

01:46 - So like how a petrol station works.

01:48 - Exactly, yeah.

01:49 - Funny that.

01:50 - But more broadly, I mean,

01:51 the challenge is with these chargers,

01:53 it's still fairly new technology,

01:55 and although a lot of the chargers are actually built

01:57 in Queensland by a company called Tritium,

02:00 they're not necessarily built always

02:01 for Australian conditions,

02:03 because the big customers for these chargers

02:05 are in Europe and the US,

02:07 they need to work everywhere in the world,

02:08 and sometimes the stuff that works best in Europe

02:11 doesn't work best here.

02:12 What sort of experience have you guys had

02:15 with these chargers?

02:16 Have you rolled up to broken ones?

02:17 Have you seen big queues?

02:18 - Well, I'll jump in quickly.

02:21 - I was gonna say, let's ask Mr. V8 himself.

02:23 - Yes, Ford XR1 charging.

02:25 So if you drive Sydney to Melbourne,

02:28 Melbourne, Sydney to Brisbane,

02:29 those sort of main highways, it's not an issue.

02:31 They're everywhere, every server you pull into,

02:33 you get fast chargers.

02:34 But last year we did a drive with an EV6

02:37 from Adelaide to Sydney,

02:39 through the back country of New South Wales, basically.

02:42 We stayed in a town called Hay.

02:44 There was one free NRMA charger, it's 20 kilowatts,

02:49 and it was fine.

02:50 We were able to pull in, we spent the night there,

02:51 just plugged the car in, it charged overnight,

02:53 and we got going the next day.

02:54 But if you pulled in there, if you came in on a weekend,

02:57 and there was six people with their Teslas

02:59 there waiting to charge it,

03:00 you'd be there for hours before you get a charge.

03:03 And it's the same in almost all those small towns,

03:05 because the councils are actually giving out grants

03:07 to put them in, but they have one 20 kilowatt charger,

03:11 or the NRMAs put them in.

03:13 And I think that, yes, we have often found broken ones

03:16 when we've gone to charge press cars,

03:17 but also when you do travel, it's,

03:19 yeah, you really need to think about

03:22 giving yourself enough time in these places to charge it.

03:24 But what about you, Jo, have you felt that?

03:25 - Well, I recently, on my break last week,

03:29 I had the chance to drive an EV for a full week.

03:32 - So you were working on your break?

03:32 - Which I'd never done before, maybe.

03:35 Never stop.

03:36 And it was- - Don't sound like it's a bad thing.

03:39 - No, I love it.

03:40 And it was actually really cool to understand

03:44 my local charging infrastructure,

03:46 but also when, 'cause we went out for a day to film

03:49 the car that we had,

03:51 and it was good to be able to find these chargers everywhere

03:56 and see, the thing in Sydney that I would say,

03:59 and again, this is just based on seven days,

04:02 long-term, it could be different,

04:04 chargers were maybe 20 kilometers away from each other,

04:09 10, 15, 20 kilometers away from each other, which is fine,

04:13 but they were always taken.

04:14 They worked, they weren't expensive,

04:17 but they were always taken.

04:18 So I remember waking up at 6.30

04:21 just to be able to go down to the local shopping center

04:24 to charge the car that we had,

04:26 to then go home, come back once the car was fully charged

04:30 and I got a notification on the app.

04:32 So it works, it's good,

04:35 but there's a lot of limitations and restrictions

04:38 at the moment that I think if we're gonna be,

04:41 I totally understand where Hyundai's coming from,

04:43 and if we're gonna be adopting electric cars,

04:46 we need to be better.

04:48 - It is interesting, you mention the shopping center

04:51 and you mentioned a local council,

04:52 and I'm talking about Chargefox and EV,

04:54 I think that is one of the challenges they face.

04:56 Ultimately, Shell, although it franchises it,

04:59 operates a Shell petrol station.

05:00 The petrol comes from Shell,

05:01 the bowzers are installed by Shell,

05:03 and if something goes wrong, Shell looks after it

05:06 or the franchise operator looks after it.

05:08 With these electric car chargers,

05:09 there are a lot of moving parts.

05:10 So when we say Chargefox is rolling out the infrastructure,

05:14 and it is, Chargefox does do some of the installation

05:16 and that sort of thing,

05:17 but it's possible to have an EV charger

05:20 that is operated by the RACV,

05:23 that was installed and maintained by Chargefox

05:25 using parts from Tritium in Queensland,

05:28 and maybe cables and plugs from ABB in Germany.

05:31 And if one step on that chain doesn't talk to the other,

05:33 or maybe something goes wrong at one end of the chain,

05:36 there are a lot of moving parts

05:37 that need to sort of work together to fix it.

05:40 And I think we're still at the young stage

05:42 where those moving parts aren't quite as locked in

05:43 as maybe they need to be.

05:45 - So a couple of quick stats here.

05:47 As of the start of 2023,

05:49 there was around 2,400 public charging locations in Australia

05:53 offering around 4,900 individual plugs.

05:56 Now, for what it's worth,

05:58 I've seen photos in the States of a Tesla charger

06:02 at an interstate service station,

06:05 and there's 100 chargers there.

06:06 Like, it's such a different level over there.

06:10 As again, at the start of 2023,

06:11 there was only 99 ultra-fast charging stations in Australia,

06:15 which, considering all of these cars

06:19 that do actually run electricity need,

06:21 they have big batteries and they need to charge quickly,

06:24 that's kind of not good enough.

06:26 - Well, so that is the difference

06:27 between fast chargers and really fast chargers.

06:30 I mean, if we're talking about a 25 kilowatt charger,

06:33 which is one of the levels that's mentioned in the report

06:35 Sean's working from here,

06:37 if you've got a car with a 75 kilowatt hour battery,

06:39 so let's say a higher-end Tesla Model 3

06:41 has roughly that,

06:42 on a 25 kilowatt charger from empty to full,

06:44 it's gonna take you three hours,

06:46 provided that charger is working at full speed.

06:48 On a 100 kilowatt charger,

06:50 it's gonna take three quarters of an hour,

06:52 and on a 350 kilowatt charger,

06:54 depending on how fast the car can draw,

06:56 you come down towards half an hour or 20 minutes.

06:58 So, although there are fast chargers

07:01 relative to plugging into a three-pin socket in the wall,

07:04 this term kind of means more

07:06 than just petrol station-style stop.

07:08 It could mean anything from hour-long top-up

07:10 to 20-minute splash and dash.

07:12 And that, I think, also is something that customers

07:15 and owners of new electric cars will come to terms with.

07:18 They'll start looking at the number on the ChargeFox app

07:20 or the EV app or the NRMA app,

07:22 or whatever it is to understand

07:23 how long they need to be there.

07:25 But they're really important distinctions

07:27 that, at the moment, we don't have to think about

07:29 because the only real difference at a petrol station

07:31 is diesel or high-flow diesel.

07:33 It takes the same amount of time.

07:34 - And it's interesting, Jade,

07:35 you mentioned going to a mall earlier to charge it.

07:38 And I remember having a similar experience

07:40 in Sydney last year where I drove down,

07:42 I went, "Okay, I'm gonna charge this plug-in hybrid

07:45 that I had."

07:46 There's a bunch of Teslas there charging,

07:48 and I was like, "Oh, there's a free spot, perfect.

07:49 I'll pull in."

07:50 I was gonna go do some shopping anyway,

07:51 spend a couple of hours.

07:53 Nothing, it just didn't work.

07:56 It's just, and there's no sign to say it's not working.

07:59 It just didn't work.

08:00 - One thing that we had as well

08:01 is the capability of the actual plugs.

08:05 That was one thing that we ran into.

08:07 The charger worked, it was free, got there.

08:11 This is actually up in the Hunter Valley

08:13 where there's one or two chargers.

08:15 So you feel like it's make or break.

08:17 - That's weird 'cause it's coal country up there.

08:18 They should have plenty of electricity.

08:20 - Exactly.

08:21 - I'm not engaging with that.

08:23 - The pin didn't fit into the car.

08:25 So I was like, "Okay, well, thankfully,

08:28 we didn't actually need to charge."

08:30 It was just 'cause the space was free

08:32 and the car park was empty that we were like,

08:33 "We'll just park there and charge up for whatever we need."

08:36 But we couldn't even, like if I need a charge,

08:39 I genuinely would have had to have the car towed

08:41 because there was no other option there

08:43 and there was no power outlet

08:45 to plug into the wall there anywhere.

08:48 So yeah, it's tough.

08:49 - I do think the one positive from all of this

08:52 is that this wouldn't be a problem

08:53 if there were only three electric cars in Australia

08:55 like there was a couple of years ago.

08:57 So ultimately this problem does also mean

08:59 that we are selling more electric cars,

09:02 people are buying them and adopting them.

09:03 And the fact that it's happened so quickly

09:05 means there are gonna be some growing pains,

09:07 but there's been tens of thousands of electric cars

09:10 sold this year in Australia.

09:11 And that's tens of thousands of people

09:12 who at some point will need to interact

09:14 with this infrastructure.

09:16 That wave of complaints isn't gonna go unnoticed

09:18 by big charging companies and big providers

09:21 that ultimately are funded by taxpayer dollars,

09:23 but also by regular people

09:25 who need to rely on their services.

09:26 So I do think we're in the growing pains phase

09:29 at the moment, but the fact we're there

09:31 compared to where we were a couple of years ago

09:33 is a positive.

09:34 And I reckon in 12 months time,

09:35 if we are having this conversation again,

09:37 hopefully it's a bit of a different one.

09:39 - And I think before people get in the Facebook comments

09:42 and start saying, "Oh, there's only 2% of cars

09:44 "on the road that are electric."

09:45 - That's a lot of cars though.

09:47 - That is a lot of cars. - That's a lot of cars.

09:49 - Considering there's 13 million registered cars,

09:51 2% of 13 million is quite a lot.

09:53 Like you said, three years ago,

09:56 there was only three electric cars on the road.

09:57 Now there are thousands.

09:58 I mean, Tesla are delivering

09:59 a couple of thousand Model Ys a month.

10:01 I think that going forward,

10:05 the argument of the servos waiting

10:08 for the electric car adoption,

10:09 that doesn't count anymore.

10:10 They should just be installing it.

10:12 Why BP and Shell have not widely adopted that yet is--

10:17 - They're getting there, but it's slow.

10:18 - But surely that's a moneymaker for them at this point.

10:20 Surely there's enough cars, electric cars

10:23 on the road travelling now that it's worth it for them.

10:26 - Do you want to share with the world?

10:28 Maybe I'm going to share with the world my grand idea.

10:30 - Go on.

10:31 - It's every set of traffic lights

10:35 has a little thing that drops down

10:37 like it's on top of a tram

10:39 and cars have a port on top of them.

10:42 And you just get a quick top up

10:43 and then the light goes green

10:44 and it lifts up and away you go.

10:45 - It's like air to air refuelling in a plane.

10:47 - Exactly, in a plane.

10:48 If you think about, we're in Docklands

10:50 and I don't mean this as a serious idea, by the way,

10:52 just to be really clear.

10:53 - I think you're onto something.

10:55 - Oh, there we go, maybe it is a serious idea.

10:58 - I'm still not familiar with the freeways around here,

11:01 but the East Link and Long Freeways,

11:04 if you can plug...

11:06 (laughing)

11:07 - Like a dodging car.

11:09 - Like a tram, yeah.

11:09 - Yeah, and then that charger goes all the way

11:12 through to the other side.

11:14 That's like half an hour, 40 minutes

11:16 in peak hour traffic.

11:17 - The traffic lights around here,

11:18 we're in Docklands in Melbourne,

11:20 at the moment, because of all the roadworks going on,

11:22 I sat at the traffic lights for 15 minutes last night

11:24 on my way home.

11:24 - To charge your car.

11:25 - Could have charged my car.

11:26 - Yeah.

11:27 - Well, if you'd like to have a look

11:28 at some of the new electric cars

11:30 coming onto the Australian market,

11:32 Jade has the event coming up

11:33 that gives you an opportunity to do it.

11:35 So Jade, tell us a little bit about it.

11:36 - I'm very excited.

11:37 We actually, today, we're gonna announce

11:40 two cars that are gonna join us,

11:42 and they're both electric.

11:43 So the MG4 and the Renault Megane E-Tech

11:47 are gonna be joining us on the 14th of October.

11:49 So if you haven't gotten your tickets, they are free.

11:51 The coffee cart is confirmed.

11:53 Coffee will be flowing.

11:54 The whole team bar, these two individuals, will be there.

11:59 (laughing)

11:59 - I'm gonna be in Queensland, I'm really sorry.

12:01 - But it's, you know, we've got Jack, James, Will,

12:05 Paul's gonna be there.

12:06 So it's gonna be a really good morning

12:08 if you wanna come down and meet the team.

12:10 I will get Sean to put the link

12:13 to register your tickets down below.

12:16 - What's the car you're most excited for?

12:18 'Cause I can't wait to see the BMW i5.

12:21 - Yeah.

12:22 - That's really exciting for me.

12:23 - I agree.

12:24 - I mean, not that I'm gonna be there.

12:25 I'm very much looking forward to the F150, but--

12:28 - Look, I might be lifting the sort of skirts here

12:31 and giving the secrets away,

12:32 but the cars are actually gonna be here before Saturday.

12:34 Yeah.

12:35 - Oh, interesting.

12:36 Okay, well, we'll have to sneak out the car park

12:37 and check it out.

12:38 (laughing)

12:39 Yes, make sure you get your tickets.

12:40 They are free.

12:41 I think there's some free coffee going that morning as well.

12:43 - Yes, I also forgot to mention,

12:44 for anyone who does join us on the day,

12:46 there will be a giveaway.

12:48 I'm very excited.

12:49 There are some really cool things going into the giveaway.

12:51 - Giving away a Tesla Model Y.

12:53 (laughing)

12:53 - One Model Y for you.

12:55 (laughing)

12:56 - Yes, that's coming out of James' pay, so--

12:58 - We're not doing that.

12:59 - Like and subscribe so Jade can afford to give away a Tesla.

13:01 - Yes.

13:02 (laughing)

13:03 Yeah, there'll definitely be a giveaway.

13:04 We have to be there on the day,

13:06 and we are gonna be also announcing a major sponsor

13:09 for the event this week,

13:10 so make sure you're staying tuned

13:11 to all of our social platforms.

13:12 - Oh, so much to come.

13:13 - So just to clarify, it is free.

13:15 It is free.

13:16 - Yes.

13:17 - So hit the link in the description to check it out.

13:20 Jade, you'll have to give us a rundown on it afterwards.

13:22 We'll do a catch up after the event

13:24 and you tell us how it all went.

13:24 - Yes, for sure.

13:25 - So we're looking forward to that.

13:26 - Very exciting.

13:27 So we're gonna stick with you

13:28 for a little bit longer here, Jade,

13:29 because you broke a funny little story

13:31 out of the United States this week.

13:33 An American company called Reviva

13:35 has developed a digital license plate.

13:38 Now, we will get into the potential issues with this,

13:42 but give us a bit of a rundown on it, Jade.

13:44 - Yeah, so the reason why we wrote the story

13:47 is because Ford in America has officially signed

13:51 to have the digital license plates

13:54 for customers in Arizona, California, and Michigan.

13:57 - So this is a dealer option in the States?

13:59 - Yes.

14:00 - Wow, okay.

14:00 - Yes, that's why we were like,

14:01 "Oh, this is actually really cool."

14:02 So Ford is the only manufacturer in the world

14:04 to actually offer this as a dealer accessory.

14:07 So when customers go in to purchase their car,

14:10 you get to pick slimline plates

14:12 or whichever plates you want.

14:13 You can actually now pick digital plates,

14:15 which is really cool.

14:16 There are a few different options for digital plates.

14:20 Now they do start,

14:21 and I've converted this already to Australian dollars.

14:24 It's almost $1,000 just for the plate alone.

14:26 And then they come with a subscription fee,

14:28 which is just under 150 bucks a year,

14:31 which isn't too bad, but I think-

14:34 - It's not great either.

14:34 - No, it's quite expensive.

14:36 Now, some cool things-

14:37 - What happens if you don't, sorry,

14:39 what if you don't pay your subscription

14:40 to the number of plates turn off?

14:41 - They just don't blink.

14:42 - What happens?

14:43 - They don't, but you basically lose a lot of features,

14:46 which I was just about to go into.

14:48 So the features that you get

14:51 when you do have the subscription,

14:54 you can customize the font

14:56 as well as the color of your number plate.

14:58 - I want my number plate with Wingdings, please.

15:01 - You can get additional wording at the bottom,

15:04 like a team slogan, or maybe even your company name.

15:07 And one cool thing, which I think is cool,

15:11 but I got a little bit of backlash for this.

15:14 If the car is reported stolen, which you can do on the app,

15:18 it actually will show up a stolen,

15:22 I guess, sign on the number plate.

15:24 So it's kind of like a secret alarm

15:27 where if the person that has stolen your car

15:30 doesn't really realize

15:31 that the digital number plates are digital,

15:34 police and everyone around them

15:35 will realize that the car is stolen.

15:37 It also has GPS tracking built into the number plate.

15:40 So pretty cool stuff.

15:42 What do you guys think?

15:44 - I actually remember reporting on something like this

15:46 a couple of years ago when I worked for a tech website.

15:48 And there was talk about using it for advertising.

15:51 So if your car is parked and stationary

15:54 for a couple of hours,

15:55 you can earn money by, in that area,

15:58 local businesses putting slogans on your car,

16:01 which is kind of terrifying as an idea,

16:03 but also kind of a cool way

16:05 to make some cash from your car on the side.

16:07 I actually really like it.

16:08 And I think somewhere like the States,

16:09 where there are, I suppose they're more relaxed

16:11 about what you can and can't do with your number plates.

16:13 There's a lot of people who get around already

16:15 with custom frames.

16:16 Each state has its own interesting design.

16:18 You don't need front plates either.

16:19 - Yeah, half of the states

16:20 don't actually have plates on the car at all.

16:22 - It's a really cool idea

16:23 that I wouldn't mind seeing roll out in Australia.

16:26 The only thing that worries me about Australia

16:28 is knowing the way that our licensing

16:31 and registration bodies work.

16:32 They'll see it as a cash cow

16:33 and start charging a lot more than 150 bucks a year for it.

16:36 - I would like to point out, I'm not an AFL person,

16:38 but I would like to see how many people all year

16:40 have their AFL team on the number plate.

16:42 And then when it gets down to the grand final,

16:44 they will change it.

16:45 (laughing)

16:47 - I'd also like, and this is stolen from Top Gear,

16:49 but if you're on the road

16:50 and you've got a passenger with the app

16:52 to send messages to the car behind you,

16:54 stop tailgating me, please.

16:56 - So I'm curious though,

16:57 generally these people that make these products

17:01 are very smart,

17:02 but the people that want to hack into them

17:04 are generally smarter, or at least more determined.

17:08 Yeah, that's my concern is how safe are they?

17:11 Like surely if you can change all that stuff through an app,

17:15 then if someone wants to get into it,

17:17 they can get into it and actually alter the plates.

17:20 Like this seems like.

17:21 - It seems like there's opportunity there, definitely.

17:23 I do think though number plates are not,

17:25 I mean, we learned this recently with a press car

17:27 that had number plates stolen from it.

17:28 - Allegedly.

17:29 - The existing, different story.

17:32 The existing system we have for number plates

17:34 is not the most secure thing in the world anyway.

17:36 I mean, they're just held on with screws.

17:37 And if you really want to,

17:38 you can lift them off pretty much any car.

17:40 Yes, there is definitely the opportunity for hacking there,

17:43 but I still think if we're talking about a simpler way

17:45 to mess with people's plates,

17:47 it's always going to be easier to get a crowbar

17:48 and rip it off the front of a car

17:49 than it is to do lots of lines of code

17:51 and hacking to someone's app,

17:52 to change one letter on their number plate

17:54 or put something lewd on there.

17:56 - Yeah, and you've always got the VIN.

17:57 So like, regardless of what's on the number plate,

18:00 the car will still be able to be identified

18:01 in some shape or form anyway.

18:02 So yes, it can be hacked,

18:04 but a people, a hacker's going to jump to that opportunity

18:08 before a bank or something else, probably not.

18:11 - Maybe they just don't want to pay their tolls, you know?

18:14 - Definitely a great idea.

18:15 - That's what I'd probably be inclined to do.

18:16 - What would you guys have on a personalised plate?

18:18 I'm anti-personalised plate.

18:20 I just think they're completely unnecessary,

18:21 but I am curious to know what you'd do if you had to do it.

18:24 - Oh, it'd have to be something cheeky, right?

18:26 - Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree.

18:27 - You know, like how many times have we had a story

18:30 written on the website where it's like,

18:32 this plate's been banned

18:33 because someone wrote something cheeky.

18:35 This would be your way around it

18:36 'cause the plate is the plate, that's all well and good,

18:39 but then you put a cheeky slogan on there.

18:41 I don't know what it would be,

18:42 but yeah, I definitely want to have some fun with that.

18:46 - I just want wingdings.

18:47 Can I have my number plate in indecipherable scroll?

18:51 - I did, Jade and I were messaging about this yesterday

18:53 and I said, it's the Jilted X lovers ultimate trap, isn't it?

18:57 - That's nice to have lost me from the group chat.

18:59 - Sorry. - Sorry.

19:01 - You were busy, but yes, no, it's not great

19:04 if your Jilted X lover has access to the app.

19:06 - He's a cheetah, man. - Do not trust this man.

19:08 - Cheetah.

19:09 (laughing)

19:11 - But anyway, look, let us know, leave a comment,

19:14 let us know, do you agree with the idea

19:16 of digital license plates?

19:17 If you do agree with it, how would you have it?

19:19 And if you don't, tell us why,

19:20 what do you think could be the problem with it?

19:22 Now, Jade, I'm curious, you've been quite busy lately.

19:24 Do you find that you have as much spare time

19:26 outside of work to do anything?

19:28 - No. - No?

19:29 - When is this gonna end?

19:31 - What about you, Scott,

19:32 do you have much spare time outside of work?

19:33 - I also have been busy at work

19:34 and I have very little spare time.

19:36 - So I'm curious, if you were considering buying a new car,

19:38 would you have time to go and look

19:39 at a bunch of different dealerships?

19:40 - Jade's now on board with her, this is going.

19:42 - I understand the assignment, absolutely not.

19:45 - No. - And that's not me

19:46 just saying that.

19:46 - Well, lucky for you, - Genuinely no.

19:48 - we've put them all in one place at Help Me Car Expert.

19:51 It's very simple, you head to Google,

19:52 you type in Help Me Car Expert,

19:54 and that will take you to a page

19:55 where there's lots of pictures of Paul

19:57 and he'll help you find a new car, get a great deal,

19:59 and connect you to a dealer all over the country.

20:01 We can connect you to a dealer no matter where you are.

20:04 So head to Google, type in Help Me Car Expert,

20:06 and we'll take a lot of the time and hassle out

20:08 of trying to buy a brand new car.

20:09 If you do use Help Me Car Expert, leave a comment,

20:11 let us know how was the experience

20:13 and what car did you buy?

20:14 All right, guys, it's the big one.

20:16 We've all been, actually, we've all been waiting

20:17 for this for a long time. - Drumroll, please.

20:19 - This is probably one of the most hyped up cars

20:23 in this office for quite a while now.

20:24 - Which is, again, if we were having this conversation

20:27 12 months ago, I wouldn't have believed,

20:29 it's a Chinese electric hatchback.

20:31 - Yes, it is the MG4.

20:33 - Yeah, been really keen to drive it.

20:34 - We've had the MG3 for a while.

20:36 Generally, when you go up a number in a car,

20:38 it's not that different, but this is very different.

20:41 - This is like a whole other thing.

20:42 - So you've both driven it.

20:44 - Yes, different specs. - Who wants to talk?

20:45 - You go first.

20:46 - I'll go first. - 'Cause I think

20:47 you had a lower spec.

20:48 - I had the entry-level car, yeah.

20:50 - Tell us a bit about it, Scott.

20:51 - So MG4 is one of those cars that launched in Europe

20:55 just before it did in Australia,

20:56 and a lot of people that I know most of us really respect

20:59 wrote really nice things about it.

21:02 It's an affordable electric car.

21:03 It starts at 38,990 in Australia,

21:06 and when you get rebates in certain states,

21:08 it's closer to 30 grand,

21:09 and the range starts at about 350 Ks

21:12 and goes up from there, so it's got a usable range.

21:14 It's about the same size as a Golf,

21:16 maybe a little bit bigger.

21:17 I was expecting it to be dull as dishwater,

21:20 because often these base electric cars are,

21:22 but this thing really, really impressed me.

21:24 It's got a really pared-back, simple interior.

21:27 It's really easy to sort of operate and use.

21:29 There's fewer of those quirks that we've had

21:30 in other Chinese cars with the tech,

21:32 and then when you drive it, it's rear-wheel drive.

21:34 It's got really lovely steering.

21:36 It's actually really good fun.

21:37 I was blown away by it.

21:39 - And it is worth pointing out

21:41 that it's not just Scott that feels that way.

21:42 Most people in Car Expert that have driven it

21:44 have felt the same, and honestly,

21:45 if you look across the industry,

21:47 no one really has a bad thing to say about it,

21:49 which I find really fascinating.

21:50 - It's one of those cars, and we, on any given week,

21:53 have between six and 10 cars through the Melbourne office

21:56 to do video on, reviews on, photos of, that sort of thing,

21:59 and we always chat about what we've driven

22:00 and how we thought about it,

22:01 because we're all car nerds,

22:03 and this is one of those cars that universally,

22:05 someone's handed the keys back and gone,

22:07 "Did you really like that?

22:09 "I really liked that.

22:10 "That was really good," which sounds like faint praise,

22:13 but it's not.

22:14 It's just a really sort of impressive car.

22:16 I don't know what your experience was in Sydney, but--

22:18 - Well, I had the Excite,

22:21 so they have an Excite and an Essence.

22:23 Those are the trim levels,

22:24 but I had the largest battery option,

22:26 so the 77 kilowatt.

22:28 MG claims you can get 530 kilometers.

22:32 I pushed that to about 550, closer to 600.

22:35 - Did you get 600 Ks out of that?

22:36 - Yeah, it was insane.

22:37 - That's amazing.

22:38 Was it a lot of regening, or?

22:39 - Yeah, well, I put it on maximum regen,

22:41 and I was going through Sydney city,

22:43 so there was quite a lot of traffic.

22:44 - 600 Ks is a lot of laps to Sydney city.

22:46 - Yeah, I was actually surprised to beat it, one,

22:50 and two, like Scott said, it was super comfortable.

22:52 It had plenty of space for what that size car

22:55 would, people would expect.

22:57 I also have jumped on a couple of owner's pages,

23:00 and everyone is raving about it.

23:03 People can't wait to pick theirs up.

23:05 It's such a well-rounded car for the price.

23:09 I think MG have really hit the nail on the head with it.

23:12 - I've got two complaints,

23:14 because as much as we like it, it's not perfect.

23:17 My first is the adaptive cruise control system.

23:20 So I drove this, after watching my football team

23:23 lose a game they should have won in the finals,

23:25 got back to the office late at night

23:26 and drove it down the coast.

23:27 And the cruise control, whenever there's more than just

23:30 a half turn of the steering wheel,

23:33 it breaks the car.

23:34 So as soon as it thinks you're going around a corner,

23:36 it starts slowing down.

23:37 And on long sweeping freeway bends, that is really annoying.

23:40 - Yes, I've been in a few cars recently that do that.

23:42 I'm like, no, no, no, I'm smarter than you.

23:44 - Yeah, stop that.

23:45 I've done this corner 100k's an hour plenty of times.

23:47 We're totally fine.

23:49 The other thing that I initially struggled with was the tech.

23:52 It has, as simple as it is, it's got a few quirks to it.

23:55 The climate control is hidden on the screen.

23:58 You've got to go into some sub menus

23:59 to change certain things.

24:00 - That's a very MG thing.

24:02 The HS is similar to that.

24:03 And the HS is a hugely popular car,

24:06 but yeah, I don't know why they do that.

24:08 - The one thing they have done is you can,

24:10 and we're getting into proper nerd territory here,

24:12 but it's got two star buttons on the steering wheel.

24:15 You can program them to be whatever you want.

24:17 So I set one of them up to be the brake regen,

24:19 but the other one can be the climate control.

24:22 So there are still some tech quirks.

24:24 I still found it a bit awkward to use,

24:25 but the climate control, you press the star,

24:28 and then you can use this little joystick

24:29 on the steering wheel to turn up your temperature or fan.

24:32 It's a really clever solution,

24:33 but it still needs a little bit of fine tuning.

24:35 - So none of them are overly fast.

24:37 The 77 kilowatts, the fastest 0 to 100 at seven seconds.

24:40 So we're not-

24:41 - 77 kilowatt hour is the battery, by the way,

24:42 not the motor.

24:43 - No, no, but that's the fastest one that you get.

24:46 So none of them are Tesla performance fast, but-

24:49 - Yet.

24:50 - Yet, but there is one coming, I'm led to believe.

24:54 - Yeah, I haven't seen one yet, driven one yet.

24:56 I know Tony has in China and he really enjoyed it.

24:59 It's called the XPower,

25:00 and it's got the sort of performance you would expect

25:02 from an A45 AMG Mercedes, something like that.

25:05 - In a car that looks like a Prius C.

25:07 - Basically, yeah.

25:08 - I did do some comparisons,

25:12 and based on the new generation Model 3,

25:16 is that what we're calling it?

25:16 - The most recently updated.

25:17 - Yeah, the most recent,

25:18 I know Tesla doesn't do generations.

25:21 It's 6.6, according to Tesla Australia's website,

25:24 6.6 seconds from 0 to 100.

25:26 The XPower does that in 3.8 seconds.

25:29 - So the quickest Model 3 will probably be

25:30 a three and a half second car, something like that,

25:32 based on the old performance.

25:34 Tesla hasn't revealed the updated version yet,

25:36 but they're gonna be neck and neck.

25:37 - Exactly what I was gonna say.

25:39 Although it's still higher,

25:41 I think once Tesla does reveal the Model 3 performance,

25:44 they are gonna be very close.

25:46 And that car without the XPower, it's pretty bloody fast.

25:51 - I do think though, the XPower might be missing the point.

25:53 And I'm actually, I'm working on a story about this

25:55 and I can't quite pull it together.

25:56 But one of the things that frustrates me

25:58 about lots of electric cars

25:59 is they have lots of gimmicks about them.

26:02 So we've driven a GWM Aura, for example,

26:04 which looks like a Chinese, Italian,

26:07 French, British hatchback.

26:08 It's got all these classic design cues squished into one.

26:10 - I just actually pictured that and right.

26:12 - Yeah, there you go.

26:14 Tesla, I understand, are very simple,

26:16 but there is still something to that simplicity.

26:19 They're trying to make a statement.

26:21 The thing I liked about the MG4

26:22 was that it wasn't trying to do anything

26:24 beyond be a simple electric car.

26:27 I hopped in it and it worked.

26:28 And it was completely characterless,

26:30 is maybe a bit mean, but it didn't make a statement.

26:33 It just did the job.

26:34 I want more of that.

26:36 I want to have a fun petrol car for the weekend

26:38 that makes lots of noise and has a manual transmission,

26:39 but I don't need my electric car

26:41 to look like a Fiat 500 from the 1960s

26:43 and have koi fish that pop up on the screen

26:46 when you turn it on.

26:47 I just want it to work.

26:48 And I think the base MG4 for the price

26:51 is the perfect example of what electric cars can be

26:54 as affordable utilitarian transport.

26:56 - No, I think the Chinese are doing a really good job

26:58 with a lot of their cars,

26:58 as we saw, like the Tank 300 is really, really impressive.

27:03 This MG4 is really impressive.

27:05 They've also got the MG5, which is a little petrol--

27:08 - Petrol powered, not to be, yeah.

27:09 - Yeah, a little petrol sedan,

27:11 but quite a good little thing.

27:13 And I think that--

27:13 - It looks good.

27:14 - It does look really good.

27:15 And we're going to have reviews dropping

27:17 on the YouTube channel in the next couple of weeks.

27:19 So keep an eye out for those.

27:20 - The interesting thing, I know you're about to move on.

27:21 I'm sorry, I'm jumping in here.

27:22 The interesting thing is at the moment,

27:24 that end of the market is dominated by China.

27:26 We've got the MG3, the BYD ATO3,

27:29 the BYD Dolphin is coming.

27:31 There is going to be some competition eventually

27:33 from the established Korean, Japanese, and European brands.

27:36 So at some point in the nearish future,

27:38 hopefully we're going to see

27:39 a $35,000, $40,000 electric Volkswagen.

27:41 The ID2 All concept previews that.

27:44 Hyundai, we understand, we don't know for sure,

27:48 but could bring the little Casper electric SUV to Australia,

27:51 which is a cute little $35,000, $40,000 car.

27:54 Tesla rumored was working on a cheaper car.

27:56 - Tesla's been working on one for a really long time.

27:58 - Yeah.

27:59 - Hopefully at some point.

28:00 - Yeah, so I think that there's a lot of space

28:04 in that market for it to be a lot more competitive

28:06 than it is now.

28:07 - And the established brands are coming.

28:09 They've seen the success of these Chinese brands

28:11 in Australia, whether it's in the next year or two

28:13 or a little bit further down the track, I don't know,

28:14 but we're going to be talking about it more.

28:16 - But no, I think that what the Chinese are doing

28:18 is really impressive.

28:19 They're not just building crap anymore.

28:21 They're actually building cars that are actually

28:23 quite, like genuinely, you know,

28:26 the cars are actually quite good now.

28:28 They're not, they don't seem to have the issues

28:30 that they used to have.

28:31 - The build quality has improved.

28:32 - Yeah, they're all over and they've spent a lot of time

28:35 employing people from legacy car manufacturers

28:37 to come in and actually help build these cars.

28:39 So look, it's what we saw with the Koreans

28:43 back in the late nineties and early 2000s

28:45 with Kia and Hyundai.

28:46 I think that's where China's at at the moment.

28:48 I think over the next few years,

28:50 they're just going to dominate the market

28:52 if these other guys don't get there.

28:53 - Don't move fast.

28:54 - So, don't move fast.

28:55 - Yeah, so look, MG4, great thing.

28:57 I'm curious, I'll throw it out to both of you.

29:00 Which spec would you have?

29:02 - I would have the mid range

29:04 with the biggest battery available.

29:06 I thought that the little battery was okay for me.

29:09 And then I drove from my house to the airport,

29:12 to the office, and then 100 Ks down the coast

29:14 and 100 Ks back.

29:16 And I was just starting to run out of range.

29:18 I understand if you have a charger at home,

29:20 it's a bit different,

29:21 but my situation doesn't make that practical.

29:22 So, mid range, bigger battery, small wheels,

29:26 I'd be very happy.

29:27 - Jade?

29:29 - I'd go everything like Scott said,

29:32 but I'd go the top long range.

29:35 - So, the Essence instead of the Excite.

29:36 - No, no, sorry, the 77 kilowatt battery, yeah.

29:40 - Cool, all right, well, let us know.

29:42 Leave a comment, let us know which one would you have,

29:44 or if you would like a different electric car,

29:47 let us know that as well.

29:49 All right, we'll move on to our picks of the week.

29:51 Scott, I'll throw it straight to you.

29:52 I know you've got quite an interesting one.

29:53 - I do, so I, cars are one of my passions,

29:56 but I love golf as well.

29:58 Please don't fall asleep on me just yet.

30:00 And the Ryder Cup is this weekend,

30:02 which is Europe versus America

30:03 in a pretty significant sort of match they play every year.

30:07 Really big sort of football atmosphere.

30:09 They do an awesome job with it.

30:11 But I'd recently threw into my feed

30:13 something Ryder Cup related,

30:14 which is the world's longest drive

30:16 into the back of a moving car.

30:19 So, there's a professional golfer standing on an airstrip,

30:22 and there's a BMW 8 Series sitting next to him,

30:24 a convertible, and the driver hits the,

30:26 sorry, the golfer hits the ball,

30:28 and the driver takes off in the 8 Series

30:30 and catches this ball in the back of the convertible

30:33 at like 200 and something Ks an hour, something insane.

30:38 It sounds ridiculous, but it's a really cool video.

30:40 So, make sure when Sean puts it there, you check it out.

30:43 - It is very impressive, I think.

30:45 There's a lot of math that went into it,

30:47 but the fact that he was able to wallop that ball

30:49 and into a moving vehicle is-

30:51 - I wanna know how many takes that took.

30:53 - They show a few of the missed attempts.

30:55 There's a broken windscreen at one point as well,

30:57 'cause they just don't quite get it right.

30:59 I do think for all the math that goes into it,

31:00 it does come down to man hit ball long way,

31:03 and then drive fast.

31:04 - I don't think, it doesn't matter how many takes it took.

31:07 The fact that he managed to get it-

31:08 - It's really impressive.

31:09 - Even I can't hit it fairway.

31:11 - My golf knowledge extends to mini golf,

31:15 and that's about it.

31:16 - Yeah, I was gonna say, pop pot's my thing.

31:17 - Volkswagen Golf.

31:18 - Yes, Jade, what's your pick this week?

31:20 - I read an article about it.

31:22 It was actually a really cool,

31:24 they're calling it something along the lines

31:26 of the Orange Collection.

31:28 And it's because eight Aston Martins from 2010,

31:32 so all the cars that Aston Martin produced brand new in 2010,

31:36 were all going into an auction based on a gentleman,

31:41 in inverted commas, own collection.

31:44 Now these cars, there is a DBS convertible,

31:49 Spyder, VW Tay.

31:50 - So it's every car that Aston made in 2010.

31:52 - Correct.

31:53 - He got one of each in orange, is that the-

31:55 - Is his name Alborz Feller?

31:56 - He does have, Alborz does have an orange Vantage, yeah.

31:59 - Coincidentally, the buyer wasn't,

32:01 you know, the seller wasn't identified.

32:04 - It did say gentleman though.

32:05 - It did say gentleman.

32:06 - So it wasn't Alborz.

32:07 - Yes.

32:08 He did a custom orange color,

32:10 and a custom interior orange to match the exterior.

32:15 Like, you have to go and see it.

32:17 - It's just like a Jaffa.

32:18 - It's a Jaffa.

32:18 - This is if James Bond was a roadworks worker.

32:21 - Like it's crazy.

32:22 Now, the thing that I thought was a bit weird,

32:25 well not weird, but anyway, I'll let you guys decide.

32:29 Eight cars, hardly any of them have done any kilometers.

32:32 I think off the top of my head,

32:34 it was about 140 kilometers on,

32:37 one of the cars was the highest mileage.

32:40 They're going for 680,000 euros.

32:44 So in Australian dollars,

32:45 it's 1.1 million for the whole collection.

32:48 Cheap as chips.

32:49 - That's actually not bad for eight of them.

32:51 - Or rip off.

32:52 What do you think?

32:53 - I think it's a rip off,

32:53 because you can get a bunch of oranges,

32:55 even though things are expensive,

32:56 like three or four bucks at the supermarket.

32:59 - Do they have V8s and V12s?

33:00 I don't know.

33:01 - They don't.

33:02 They're vitamin B12s.

33:03 (laughing)

33:05 So that counts, right?

33:07 - No, if I have an Aston Martin,

33:08 it would need to be a subtle color.

33:10 - Either silver or like bruise raising green, right?

33:12 - Right, the proper James Bond

33:14 or Gentleman Racer spec.

33:15 I don't know that I need it to look like a Hy-Vee's vest.

33:17 - Yeah, no, I agree.

33:19 - I mean, you can wrap it.

33:20 For 1.1 mil for eight Aston Martins,

33:22 but if Harley's don't have any-

33:23 - I don't even know if that's a good of a deal.

33:24 - You don't wrap an Aston Martin.

33:26 - No, I know you don't.

33:27 But like, yeah, the orange interior, you can't change.

33:31 - And it also clashed with my garage.

33:33 - Shame.

33:34 (laughing)

33:36 - Since you're on the street parking.

33:38 - Sort of, we'll go with that.

33:39 I can't remember explaining it now.

33:40 - Permit holder on the street parking.

33:42 - All right, I have a question for you guys.

33:44 If you had $620,000 to buy any car, what would you buy?

33:49 - Colin N.

33:50 - Right, 911 GT3 with a manual.

33:52 - See, I think you're both wrong.

33:53 - We knew that was coming.

33:54 - Yeah, that's my answer.

33:55 - I think you're both completely wrong.

33:57 Because those cars are all well and good,

33:59 but they only drive on the road.

34:01 Now, what I discovered this week

34:03 is Toby Price's Mitsubishi Triton trophy truck

34:08 is for sale on car sales for $620,000.

34:12 It has a six liter naturally aspirated V8.

34:14 It has 60 centimeters of suspension travel.

34:16 - Which is impressive, yeah.

34:18 - One fink three times on the truck.

34:21 - Yep, is it road legal?

34:22 - It doesn't matter.

34:23 - What?

34:23 - That's a no.

34:24 - That's definitely a no.

34:25 - When the police start chasing you,

34:27 you just drive off the road.

34:28 - Which we don't recommend doing, kids.

34:31 Follow all the laws.

34:32 - But genuinely, the fact that a trophy truck

34:35 that with that kind of pedigree is up for sale

34:37 for $620,000 is a relative bargain

34:40 in the world of race cars.

34:41 And I think that that is--

34:42 - Over half a mil?

34:43 - Yeah.

34:44 - It's a pretty serious race car.

34:45 - For a car that you're not gonna drive?

34:47 - No, I mean, this is the thing.

34:48 You go and you'll do Dakar in this if you want to.

34:50 - Oh, I won't.

34:51 - Yes, you want to.

34:51 Well, that's what I mean.

34:52 Yeah, I'm not if I buy this car.

34:54 - It is a very bespoke piece of machinery.

34:57 And I think it's absolutely phenomenal.

34:59 - They are pretty incredible cars.

35:00 Like they're designed to,

35:01 if you watch them doing Dakar or fink,

35:03 something like that,

35:04 they run across the desert at more than 100 Ks an hour.

35:06 And each wheel working underneath the car

35:08 and the body perfectly flat.

35:10 And they do it for hours on end.

35:12 It's brutal.

35:13 - We look at like Baja.

35:14 - Yeah.

35:15 - Which is the really tough one.

35:16 - I saw the Ranger that they did for that,

35:18 like in person.

35:19 - Well, that was, that's slow, that thing.

35:21 - Yeah, I know.

35:22 But the setup in there and what they did to it.

35:24 - These trophy trucks are the open class.

35:26 Like these are the Formula One of off-road racing.

35:29 It's very, very cool.

35:30 So if you have $620,000,

35:32 I do recommend purchasing this

35:34 'cause it probably will go quite quickly.

35:35 - Let us know how you're purchasing it.

35:37 - Yes, yes.

35:38 - Is it on Easy Finance?

35:39 Afterpay, let us know.

35:40 We're very curious.

35:41 - Could you buy one of those

35:42 through the Car Expert Help Me feature?

35:44 - I don't know, we'll find out.

35:45 I don't know if it's been sold to a dealer,

35:47 but we'll hit up the guys at Help Me Car Expert

35:49 and see if they can help us out with that.

35:52 That pretty much brings us to the end this week, guys.

35:54 Any final thoughts you wanna leave us with?

35:56 - Did we have any questions?

35:57 - Oh, we did have a question.

35:58 - Oh, yeah.

35:59 - That's a good point.

36:00 I've got it here.

36:01 - On your new iPhone 15.

36:02 - Yes, on my new iPhone, yes.

36:03 - Wow.

36:04 - SpotifyPlayer6906 on YouTube asked,

36:09 "What's the best midsize SUV that is petrol

36:12 and has enough space of five adults and under $65,000?"

36:16 - Okay, I'm gonna start,

36:18 and I'm gonna say a top spec Kia Sportage

36:22 with the two liter petrol engine.

36:23 With five adults on board,

36:24 it's gonna feel a little bit slow,

36:26 but it does have a nice big spacious interior

36:28 for a midsize SUV,

36:30 and I quite like the way it drives.

36:31 - And seven year unlimited club water warranty,

36:33 so excellent, that's very helpful.

36:34 Jade, what are you thinking?

36:36 - I'm going the Honda CRV, the new one.

36:40 Haven't been able to test drive it yet,

36:42 so can't speak about how nice it is.

36:44 - We're driving it in two weeks, I think.

36:45 - Yes, but the inside looks very spacious, very plush.

36:49 I think you can definitely comfortably fit five adults

36:54 is the criteria.

36:55 - It's got a seven seat option as well, so.

36:56 - Yes, yeah, I don't know how many adults you can fit.

36:58 We'll have to try and work that out.

37:00 - Put James in the back seat.

37:01 - Yeah, how many Scott Collies can you fit

37:03 in the third row of the Honda CRV?

37:04 - I can guarantee you it's none.

37:05 I'm sure it's half, it's a point,

37:07 it's zero points something, I guess.

37:09 - Yeah, what about you?

37:10 - Oh, I'd go the Mitsubishi Outlander,

37:11 I think that's a pretty easy win.

37:13 - Can you get a Feb for that price?

37:15 - I don't know if you can get a Feb for that.

37:16 - 65 will get you a base Feb, I think, yeah,

37:18 but I wouldn't bother with that.

37:19 - No, you just get a petrol, I think, for that.

37:21 Yeah, no, so yeah, something like an Outlander and X-Trail

37:23 will probably ride on the money.

37:25 Yeah, okay, well, there you go.

37:26 So thanks for reminding me of the question.

37:28 - It's what I'm here for.

37:29 - Any final thoughts, guys?

37:31 - Bathurst coming up.

37:32 - Yes.

37:33 - If you're an Australian car enthusiast,

37:34 we're approaching Christmas, basically.

37:36 - This is the race that stops the nation of petrol cars.

37:39 - Car race, yeah.

37:41 - Yes, we'll bring you a full report.

37:43 No, we won't bring you a full report.

37:44 I wish that our podcast was--

37:45 - Sean will come back to the office smelling like petrol

37:48 and rubber and everything race-related.

37:50 - No, unfortunately, I'm not going this year.

37:51 - Oh, you're not going this year?

37:52 - No, I'm a little disappointed.

37:53 - This is sacrilegious.

37:54 - No, so I will be on the couch,

37:55 planned on the couch all day on that Sunday for that one.

37:58 So, all right, guys, well, thank you so much for joining us.

38:00 Jade, it's great to have you back here again.

38:02 - Yes, great to be back.

38:03 Don't forget, get your tickets, 14th of October.

38:06 Wanna see you there.

38:07 - And don't forget to vote as well on the same day,

38:09 otherwise you'll be in trouble.

38:11 Very important, just public service announcements here.

38:14 All right, guys, well, thank you so much

38:15 for joining us this week.

38:16 Thank all of you for joining us,

38:17 and we'll see you next week.

38:18 - Thanks, Sean. - Bye.

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