11th Hour | Waseem Badami | ARY News | 5th December 2023
#11thHour #RajaRiaz #NawazSharif #ShehbazSharif #PMLN #mqmpakistan #ppp
(Current Affairs)
Host:
- Waseem Badami
Guests:
- Raja Riaz Ahmad Khan PMLN
- Bashir Memon PML-N Sindh
- Senator Aajiz Dhamrah PPP
- Shahid Hashmi (Analyst)
- Kamran Akmal (Former Cricketer)
Raja Riaz Breaks Big News Regarding Nawaz Sharif
Will Raja Riaz get PML-N ticket or not? - Raja Riaz's Big Statement
MQM se ittehad PPP ke liye halal aur PMLN ke liye haram
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(Current Affairs)
Host:
- Waseem Badami
Guests:
- Raja Riaz Ahmad Khan PMLN
- Bashir Memon PML-N Sindh
- Senator Aajiz Dhamrah PPP
- Shahid Hashmi (Analyst)
- Kamran Akmal (Former Cricketer)
Raja Riaz Breaks Big News Regarding Nawaz Sharif
Will Raja Riaz get PML-N ticket or not? - Raja Riaz's Big Statement
MQM se ittehad PPP ke liye halal aur PMLN ke liye haram
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00:00 [Music]
00:13 Bismillahir Rahmanir Rahim, Assalamualaikum.
00:15 Let's talk about different topics.
00:17 First of all, the elections of 8th February are the most important topic.
00:22 When there was no prediction or prediction about this,
00:27 the first person who predicted that the elections will be held on 8th February or 15th February
00:33 was Raja Riaz Sahib, who has an interesting history.
00:36 He was in People's Party, then he was in PTI,
00:39 and then during the last phase of Imran Khan's government,
00:43 he crossed the floor and left PTI.
00:47 Then he became the opposition leader,
00:49 but then he was accused of being the opposition leader.
00:53 He was the opposition leader of Noon League, but Raja Riaz Sahib knew that
00:58 he will fight for the Noon League ticket in the next election.
01:01 Then he joined Noon League.
01:03 So, we thought that Raja Riaz Sahib has some issues.
01:06 He has a lot of questions related to Noon League.
01:10 He predicted about the elections first,
01:13 so now let's talk about the points of the elections.
01:17 We have with us the former opposition leader and current leader of Pakistan,
01:21 the late Pakistan Muslim League Noon, Raja Riaz Sahib.
01:24 Raja Sahib, Assalam-o-Alaikum.
01:26 Raja Sahib, I can hear you. Thank you for giving me time.
01:31 Sir, first of all, please listen to this.
01:35 You said something about the elections in August.
01:38 Please show us that.
01:41 Respected political workers, I know that the elections will be held on 15th February,
01:45 two to four days before or after that.
01:50 Our elders have decided that the elections will be held on 15th February.
01:54 The decision was made 15 days ago that the elections will be held.
01:58 The first seven days of the elections were held.
02:01 So, Raja Sahib, it is very relevant that now that we are talking about these points,
02:08 I would like to ask you that,
02:10 as you were sure that the elections will be held on 15th February,
02:14 no one was so sure that they will be held on February.
02:17 And it happened. So, today when I am talking to you,
02:20 are you also so sure that the elections will be held on 8th February in Pakistan?
02:24 Sir, the elections will be held on 8th February.
02:29 These are just rumors. I don't understand why they are spreading.
02:34 But you will see that the elections will be held on 8th February.
02:37 The Election Commission has given the money.
02:40 The Muslim League Noon is preparing completely.
02:43 Our board is discussing one division every day and taking interviews.
02:48 The other Jamaats are not preparing so much.
02:51 They have not started the board meetings yet.
02:54 Be it the Jamaat-e-Islami, People's Party, Muslim League Kaaf,
02:59 Fazar Rehman's Jamaat or PTI,
03:02 they are not working as fast as the Muslim League Noon is.
03:09 Mr. Mirza, you are saying this but let's talk about three big political parties.
03:14 Noon, People's Party and PTI. PTI's situation is different.
03:17 You are saying that our party is preparing the most and no other party is doing it.
03:21 So, if I compare these three parties, PTI's situation is different.
03:24 So, there is no comparison.
03:26 The other parties are doing the Jalsa very fast.
03:28 They did the Jalsa of Taashiz in Quetta.
03:30 Anyway, Bilawal has reached Quetta. Zardari has also reached there. Jalsas are being held.
03:33 Noon League did one Jalsa.
03:35 Nawaz Sharif has come on 21st October.
03:37 After that, which election Jalsa did Noon League hold?
03:40 They did nothing.
03:41 No, Mr. Wasim, the most important thing is to give the ticket.
03:48 Because if you give the ticket to the right people,
03:51 because every circle of Muslim League Noon has 5-6 candidates.
03:55 And along with that, there are candidates of MP, MNA.
03:58 So, there is a lot of pressure in Punjab for Muslim League Noon.
04:02 And Mr. Nawaz Sharif is giving time for the big selection.
04:08 Every day from 10 am to evening, he is discussing every division.
04:13 And this ticket payment is very important.
04:16 But, Mr. Rai, you told me about Jalsas.
04:21 When will Noon League start Jalsas in the election politics?
04:27 As soon as the schedule is announced.
04:31 And the payment of the board tickets will be completed.
04:34 After that, Mr. Nawaz Sharif, Mr. Shabaz Sharif, Mr. Mariam Nawaz and Mr. Hamza.
04:40 They have only one work to do, that is to hold Jalsas in the whole of Pakistan.
04:45 So, God willing, you will see that the schedule of that too.
04:48 God willing, as soon as the election schedule is announced,
04:51 Mr. Nawaz Sharif and the other senior leaders, their Jalsas schedule will be revealed.
04:57 This is the first payment.
05:00 Okay, let me put it this way.
05:03 You are talking about the distribution of tickets.
05:06 Let's talk about this.
05:07 This is the most important issue.
05:09 Now, won't there be a strange situation in the distribution of tickets?
05:12 For example, you and your group have changed the party.
05:17 It has landed in the Noon League.
05:19 Now, take the example of Narowal.
05:21 In Narowal, the distribution of tickets was discussed between Ahsan Iqbal and Mr. Dhana Lali.
05:25 Although Mr. Dana Lali has not come to the party yet.
05:27 He came a little earlier.
05:28 But Mr. Ahsan Iqbal says that he will not get tickets in Narowal,
05:32 which are decided by two or three parties.
05:35 Old loyalists will get tickets.
05:37 Now, if the Noon League has adopted this policy in other places except Narowal,
05:41 and Ahsan Iqbal is the secondary general of the Noon League,
05:43 then you will be deprived of tickets.
05:45 In fact, you should see what Mr. Ahsan Iqbal has to say about this.
05:50 We have taken a fundamental position here.
05:56 Our position is that Narowal is the fort of the Muslim League.
05:59 And here we will give tickets only to a loyal member of the Muslim League.
06:05 If someone wants to buy a lottery ticket, we will block his way.
06:09 Now, if someone is upset with this, then be upset.
06:12 But the Muslim League, Narowal, is not ready to put up this wall
06:17 where there are so many loyalists who have been beaten up,
06:21 and have seen bad times. If we give tickets to loyalists who have been betrayed twice or thrice, then...
06:29 Now, Mr. Raja, he is saying that this decision is of the Muslim League, Narowal.
06:33 Now, if the Muslim League, Pakistan, has also decided that
06:35 if you do not give tickets to people who have been betrayed twice or thrice,
06:38 then where will you go?
06:40 Look, this is the decision of the board.
06:43 But we have full hope that God willing, we have applied to the board.
06:48 And the board has to decide. Whatever the decision is, we accept it.
06:52 Tickets are given to other areas of Narowal, Faisalabad, and other areas of every district and city.
06:59 There is a difference between the Muslim League and the other areas.
07:02 There are no such areas here.
07:05 And you saw that the other day, I met with Mr. Shabashri and Mr. Nawabshahid Waseer from Faisalabad.
07:14 So, we have discussed a few things.
07:17 So, whatever the board decides, we accept it.
07:19 Let me talk about your area.
07:21 Mr. Rana Afzal, a very senior and old Muslim League worker, may God bless him.
07:26 Now, his son is in the field, Mr. Rana Ehsan.
07:29 So, will you get tickets, who are new to the party, but have come at an important time?
07:34 Or will Rana Afzal's son get tickets, Mr. Rana Ehsan?
07:38 Look, this is the decision of the board.
07:41 He is like my younger brothers.
07:43 Rana Afzal's son.
07:45 So, he has also applied.
07:47 Two people have applied from this MLA's area.
07:51 One I have done, one he has done.
07:53 We will go in front of the board.
07:55 Mr. Nawabshahid Waseer, Mr. Shabashri, whatever the decision will be, they will also accept it.
07:59 I was saying the same thing that two people have applied.
08:02 Either you will get tickets, who are new, but have come at an important time.
08:05 Or they will get tickets, who are old Muslim League workers, Mr. Ehsan Iqbal.
08:08 I mean, it is not that if you do not get the ticket, you will get angry.
08:12 I will do it this way.
08:15 It is decided that if you get the ticket, then they will run the campaign for you.
08:18 And if they get the ticket, then you will run the campaign for them.
08:21 Yes, God willing, I am announcing this in your program.
08:27 Whoever gets the ticket, the other will support him.
08:31 But Raja sahib, I don't know if it happens in your case or not.
08:34 It is important for you.
08:36 Because you have led that group.
08:38 But see, Muslim League Noon will learn a lesson from the past or not.
08:42 Why won't it learn?
08:43 When the Zimni election took place, on 20 seats, and Noon gave tickets to those people who had just joined Noon,
08:49 had left PTI, then Noon saw that, contrary to all expectations, 15 seats were removed from 20 seats.
08:55 And then Noon's people said openly, on television, that our voters did not like that we left the old workers and gave the new ones.
09:06 This is very difficult for Noon League and for people like you, in terms of getting tickets.
09:11 It was not about the new or old.
09:14 At that time, Khan sahib fought against a fraud group, the Cypher group.
09:19 The group was in the process of that fraud.
09:21 Now the group has come out of that fraud.
09:24 And at that time, Khan sahib was separated from power.
09:27 And the fraud that he had run, the Cypher group, he tried to mislead the people.
09:33 That is a matter of those days.
09:35 Now those days are no more.
09:37 Inshallah.
09:38 No, Rai sahib, you yourself said, you have just repeated it, that Khan sahib has magic on the people.
09:43 You were not praising him, you were saying that I don't know what he has done to this man.
09:46 But you were accepting that he has a lot of influence.
09:49 You were saying that I don't know what magic this man has done, he has incited our people, he has done this.
09:53 So has that magic been removed now?
09:55 The fraud that Khan sahib had done, the whole nation has come to know of that fraud.
10:01 That it was a lie and was done to mislead.
10:04 So now those circumstances are not the same, now the circumstances are different.
10:08 After the Jalsa of Mian Nawaz Sharif in Lahore, Waseem bhai, the circumstances have changed a lot.
10:15 The magic has been removed from the Jalsa in October.
10:18 Your prophecies are proving to be very true.
10:20 So I am asking you, today this intraparty election that took place on the order of the PTI, the Election Commission of Pakistan,
10:26 against that, Akbar Azababar has now filed a request.
10:29 Raja Riaz sahib, in your opinion, will Pakistan's Judiciary get a ballot in the elections or not?
10:36 They have made the ballot a jelly election. If they had made a real election, then they would have got it.
10:42 Now I am in doubt, because this is a jelly election.
10:46 And they had said that if you don't make an election, then you will not get a ballot.
10:51 Because a jelly election has taken place, which the PTI itself is not accepting.
10:55 The PTI has not accepted it.
10:59 So, a jelly election has taken place, and a man, who is their lawyer, has been made the chairman.
11:06 If a political person, who is in trouble for the PTI, is in jail,
11:12 if one of them was made, if a political worker was made,
11:17 if a former worker of the Judiciary was made, then the PTI people would have looked at him.
11:24 But the man, who has been made the chairman of the PTI, his position...
11:28 Raja sahib, isn't it a favour that at least a political worker has been made,
11:33 otherwise, the brother, the son, the daughter, the son, the father, the uncle, the aunt,
11:40 otherwise, everyone is roaming around at home, that if not me, then this, if not that,
11:44 the whole game is going on at home.
11:46 So, at least, they didn't make their wife, at least, they didn't make their sister.
11:52 Isn't this a favour?
11:54 No, no, I... look, they didn't make the daughter, the son, but I...
11:59 They didn't make the sister, the wife.
12:01 The man, who was made, as a Pakistani, I am not from their party, this is their right,
12:07 but as a Pakistani, I think this is a very wrong decision.
12:11 They should have made Shah Muhammad Qureshi sahib, they should have made Parvez Alai sahib,
12:15 they should have made Ali Muhammad Khan.
12:17 They made Ali sahib in jail, they made Shah Muhammad Qureshi sahib in jail,
12:19 how could they have run the party?
12:21 The one who has to take care of the party's command,
12:23 he has to hold conventions, he has to gather people,
12:26 if he was in jail, how could he have run the party?
12:29 Ali Ameen Gandapur is not in jail, they should have made him.
12:34 The old people, the old faces, if they were political people,
12:39 they would have had a status, they would have had a role in the elections.
12:45 The people who have been made, they will not be able to perform in the elections.
12:50 Mr. Rai, you have to listen to my innocent summary,
12:54 the summary of your speech is that a good party is one that gives preference to the old workers
13:00 over the new workers.
13:02 Now if the people of Noor League have heard your voice,
13:04 and they have also followed the formula that Rai sir is absolutely right,
13:08 the old workers should be given preference, not the new workers,
13:11 those who came yesterday should not be given preference,
13:13 they should be given preference from the people.
13:15 So sir, where will you go?
13:17 I have been fighting the elections for 42 years.
13:20 You have just joined Noor League,
13:22 you have just joined Noor League,
13:25 and you yourself are saying that a good party is one whose leaders give preference to the old workers,
13:30 not the new workers.
13:32 I had no objection to this as I did today.
13:35 Tell me this,
13:37 Ahsan Iqbal sir said that if Pakistan Tehreek-e-Jadid wants space,
13:42 then they can get it when they hand over the responsibilities of 9th May,
13:46 then PTI will get a space level playing field.
13:50 Do you agree with this?
13:52 Of course, if the people who have fled or are hiding,
13:58 if those people come forward,
14:01 then I think there will be a shortage of this strictness,
14:04 and the situation can be better than the situation today,
14:08 if those people who have burnt the graves of the martyrs or broken them,
14:13 present them to the court commander's house,
14:18 or those who have burnt our planes in Mian Ali,
14:24 if those people come forward,
14:26 then the situation can be expected to be a little softer for PTI.
14:32 How can Noon League say this with so much confidence?
14:36 Election is a game, for example,
14:38 so Noon League and PTI are both players.
14:41 Noon League is not a referee or an institution.
14:44 How can Noon League say that if you do this, it will be easier for you?
14:48 Noon League is fighting elections like PTI or any other party.
14:52 You have asked a question and we have analyzed it.
14:57 You have given us an idea.
14:59 I am asking about Ahsan Iqbal's statement.
15:02 You have supported his statement.
15:04 He is the secondary general of the party.
15:06 How can he say this with so much confidence?
15:09 He can answer that.
15:11 As a political activist, I have answered your question
15:16 keeping in mind the daily situation of Pakistan.
15:20 What Ahsan Iqbal has said, he can answer it better.
15:25 Keeping in mind the daily situation of Pakistan,
15:31 I have answered your question.
15:34 I will conclude.
15:36 I will ask you, will our party win the elections?
15:40 Do you think Nawaz Sharif will become the PM of Pakistan again?
15:43 Because there is a decision of the Supreme Court of Pakistan
15:45 that the 62-1F is not valid.
15:48 On the other hand, people say that he has become so much in reformation that he can become.
15:52 Raja Riaz, do you think he will become the next PM of Pakistan?
15:55 Even if Noorli is in power, is it Mian Muhammad Nawaz Sharif or someone else?
15:58 Wasim Bhai, Inshallah Muslim League will sweep Noorli from Punjab.
16:04 Inshallah Mian Nawaz Sharif is the PM of Pakistan.
16:08 I want to tell you about the speech of Nawaz Sharif's wife.
16:13 Through your program, we have given a vote in the assembly
16:18 and have fixed the term of Nawaz Sharif's wife for 5 years.
16:21 After that, the Supreme Court said that the decisions of the parliament are correct and should be followed.
16:29 With that reference, Mian Nawaz Sharif's 5 years have been completed.
16:33 He does not need to go to the Supreme Court.
16:37 He will take his papers to the returning officer.
16:41 The returning officer cannot reject his papers in any case.
16:47 I am telling you this.
16:51 You have made a few predictions that the returning officer cannot reject Nawaz Sharif's papers.
16:54 He will become the PM again.
16:56 People's Party is likely to leave the PTI.
16:59 Because they have not conducted the elections properly.
17:02 Before leaving, tell me about your previous party, People's Party.
17:06 Will Sardari not be able to run?
17:08 You are saying that Noorli will sweep in Punjab.
17:10 Will he sit in Punjab?
17:12 Will Sardari be able to do anything?
17:14 I have told you that the Muslim League is sweeping in Punjab.
17:19 We are not seeing the Jamaat-e-Islami, PTI, Maulana Fazar Rehman's Jamaat, or People's Party.
17:29 No Jamaat is in front of the Muslim League.
17:33 Who is in front of the Muslim League?
17:35 In Punjab, Noor League will be number one.
17:37 Okay, I have accepted this.
17:39 Who will be number two?
17:41 Whoever is number two will be far behind.
17:44 He will not be number two, he will be at 99.
17:48 Thank you very much.
17:52 Raja Riaz was talking about the Pakistan-Muslim League.
17:55 He says that if the PTI had conducted the right elections, then Balla would have been with them.
18:00 Now, Balla has the opportunity to leave.
18:03 You have heard other things about Raja Riaz.
18:07 After a break, we will be back with the next story.
18:09 [Music]
18:17 Welcome.
18:18 We will talk about two developing stories.
18:20 First, we went to the PTI and inter-party elections.
18:23 Akbar Ez Babar challenged them.
18:25 Today, the Election Commission is in Pakistan.
18:27 Let's quickly ask Shah Khawar, who is a senior lawyer, how serious these allegations are.
18:31 Shah Khawar, Assalam-o-Alaikum.
18:33 Shah Khawar is not with us. Let's try to reconnect him.
18:38 Let's move forward.
18:40 There is a very interesting situation in Sindh.
18:43 Historically, the PTI has won in electoral politics.
18:48 It has won continuously.
18:50 This time, PMLN is leading Sindh.
18:54 Mr. Bashir Memon has joined.
18:57 MQM, GDA, PMLN are forming an alliance.
19:03 They are on the same platform.
19:06 They claim that they will stop the PTI from coming into power.
19:10 The allegations are similar.
19:13 They claim that the Election Commission is supporting the PTI.
19:16 The government is under the control of the PTI.
19:20 Will there be a new electoral map in Sindh?
19:23 Or will the alliance not be able to fight the PTI?
19:27 Bashir Memon is the President of Muslim League of Sindh.
19:30 He is with us.
19:31 Aajiz Jamra is the Secretary of Information.
19:33 He is with us.
19:35 I am thankful to both of them.
19:37 Mr. Bashir, if I can start with you.
19:40 This is not the first time that an alliance has been formed.
19:44 And the claims are not the first time.
19:46 That we will not let the PPP come into power.
19:49 We have always seen in electoral politics that
19:51 a line is made against the PPP.
19:53 But one PPP is enough for everyone in Sindh.
19:56 This time, will this be the action of the people?
19:58 What will be the difference?
20:00 Assalam-o-Alaikum.
20:03 Sir, Assalam-o-Alaikum.
20:05 I am very thankful to you for inviting me to your channel.
20:10 I am thankful to you for making me a part of your program.
20:13 I am thankful to you.
20:14 I also thank Aajiz Jamra.
20:16 Assalam-o-Alaikum.
20:17 May Allah keep him happy.
20:19 Assalam-o-Alaikum.
20:20 The thing is that if I can talk about the figures.
20:26 Yes, yes.
20:27 If I have permission.
20:28 Sir.
20:29 I will not talk about the exact figures.
20:32 In the last elections, the People's Party secured 38 lakh votes.
20:38 Okay.
20:39 And the opposition vote was 62 lakh.
20:46 Yes.
20:47 We are just trying to get our agenda on one page.
20:56 And the other page should go to the people.
21:01 Every political party has the right to ask for free, fair and transparent elections.
21:11 The Constitution is our right.
21:13 We ask for free, fair and transparent elections.
21:18 And we want to save the elections from the administrative jugglery.
21:28 And Bashir, a question.
21:31 You are a member of the administration.
21:32 You have served on the most important posts.
21:33 FIA and what not.
21:34 So, don't you think that political parties are at times very unfair to the bureaucracy?
21:40 Because whenever someone feels that they are losing, they put allegations on them.
21:43 Now, putting such allegations on the government that this is the People's Party's monitoring.
21:47 Tell the election commission that these are the paid workers of the People's Party.
21:51 Do you have any evidence of such serious allegations?
21:53 You are a journalist.
22:00 And a well-known journalist in Pakistan.
22:03 You are one of the top investigative journalists in Pakistan.
22:11 And you are also a part of the list.
22:13 Sir.
22:15 I have said this before.
22:19 I have also said this to the Chief Election Commissioner in writing.
22:23 There are two or three things that are our reservations.
22:28 But Chief Justice Singh, personally,
22:32 personally,
22:34 Maqbool Bakar,
22:35 Yes.
22:36 His past career,
22:38 Chief Justice Singh has been a High Court judge,
22:41 Supreme Court judge,
22:42 extremely honest,
22:43 sincere,
22:45 and a very just person.
22:49 Hmm.
22:51 Okay.
22:52 Secondly,
22:53 the bureaucracy around him,
22:56 that guides him.
22:58 Obviously, the people who are with the Chief Justice are the same.
23:04 Okay.
23:05 Any criteria,
23:07 we were saying,
23:08 the request we have made,
23:10 that the people who have done VR from NAB,
23:15 the purpose of this is that they have admitted that they have done corruption and have deposited money in the government treasury.
23:20 Yes.
23:21 That should at least,
23:24 at least,
23:25 the government should not be given a posting.
23:28 Because the case did not take place in the court,
23:30 and they accepted,
23:31 one or two crore rupees,
23:32 two crore rupees,
23:33 five crore rupees,
23:34 fifty lakh rupees,
23:35 twenty lakh rupees,
23:36 and they deposited it in the government treasury.
23:39 So,
23:40 he has somehow accepted his guilt.
23:44 Okay,
23:45 he should not be on the mainstream posting.
23:48 One.
23:49 Yes.
23:50 Two,
23:51 any such,
23:54 which,
23:55 now I want to tell you something,
23:57 if you allow me.
23:58 Sir,
23:59 I will come to you.
24:00 I know,
24:01 I have only brought Ajit Dhamle in the discussion once,
24:02 but before that,
24:03 I will say this,
24:04 that Bashir Memon sir,
24:05 in his personal capacity,
24:07 does not have any objection to CM Sindh,
24:09 that he is supporting the People's Party.
24:11 In his personal capacity,
24:12 he has no objection.
24:13 If his subordinates are making any move,
24:14 then it is a different matter.
24:15 You have no doubt about Makbool Bakir sir's personality.
24:17 Am I right?
24:18 Absolutely.
24:19 In the personality of Makbool Bakir sir,
24:23 personally,
24:24 no one has any objection in the whole of Pakistan.
24:27 No,
24:28 the MQM raised the objection.
24:29 When the MQM says that the Nigrahan Hukumat,
24:31 is under the supervision of the People's Party,
24:33 then the head of the Nigrahan Hukumat is only Makbool Bakir sir.
24:36 No,
24:37 that is obvious.
24:38 There is bureaucracy.
24:40 Okay.
24:41 Okay, you are saying that Makbool Bakir sir is not doing it.
24:43 Sir, note it.
24:44 I will come back to you.
24:45 Now, Aajaz Damra sir,
24:46 this is an innocent question, sir.
24:48 I have also said that,
24:49 the position of the People's Party in Sindh is very strong,
24:51 but the MQM that Bashir Memon sir's group is uniting,
24:55 you are taunting it very daily.
24:59 Sir, I request you,
25:00 you have been uniting with the MQM daily since my childhood,
25:03 then how is your uniting halal and theirs haram?
25:06 Either uniting with the MQM is a very bad thing,
25:08 so you did a bad thing and why did you do it?
25:11 Or there will be no harm in uniting with the MQM,
25:13 then why do you taunt them?
25:14 Assalamu Alaikum,
25:19 Sir, Walaikum Assalam.
25:20 I will give you a humble answer to your innocent question.
25:24 Yes, yes,
25:25 Aajaz Damra sir's humble answer.
25:26 Yes, sir.
25:27 Yes, yes.
25:28 Okay, as far as the uniting of the MQM is concerned,
25:32 so the MQM has been our unity,
25:34 we are telling everyone that the new unity and the talks of taking and giving relations,
25:40 all these things happen in politics,
25:42 but it has been recorded that the MQM always meets with our opponents and elects us.
25:49 Even today, if Bashir Memon sir had told the quantity in terms of counting the votes,
25:54 that 80 lakh people's party voted,
25:56 and 60 to 65 lakh, perhaps all opposition parties voted,
26:00 that is why their unity is formed.
26:03 It means that you are still accepting that the people's party is a reality,
26:08 to fight against it, you have to unite everyone,
26:12 this is your compulsion,
26:14 otherwise you cannot compete with the people's party.
26:16 And secondly, when you pick up the results of the 2008 election in the assembly,
26:21 then in 2013 we took more seats,
26:24 then in the election of 2013 to 2018 we took more seats,
26:29 and you keep this program on record,
26:32 that we will take more seats than 2018,
26:36 they should meet, unite, this photo stage is enough,
26:41 these are the same people who have changed their burqa and come to compete,
26:47 we have always welcomed,
26:49 today I welcome you in your program,
26:51 if there are more individuals against us,
26:54 gather them all,
26:55 this is your compulsion that you cannot compete with us,
26:59 that is why we cannot criticize or object to your unity,
27:03 after coming to the assembly, the United Nations talks to us,
27:07 they do not talk about the issue of immigrants,
27:09 they do not talk about the feeling of deprivation,
27:12 they are always angry with us,
27:14 sir, give us good ministries,
27:16 give us good ministries,
27:18 the fight always remains the same for 5 years,
27:21 neither does he remember the issue of Urdu speaking,
27:23 nor does he remember the issue of the neighborhood,
27:25 secondly, the government in Sindh,
27:28 is under the B team of the People's Party,
27:31 I think if I understand the position of Bashir Memon,
27:35 his position is that all the opposition should be converted to jail,
27:40 and all the bureaucracy should be put in it,
27:43 and this is a record that the development fund is running in all the provinces,
27:48 except Sindh,
27:50 so you also have an objection to the Sindhi government?
27:53 100% we are saying that the election commission has closed the development fund,
27:59 if the development fund is closed in this time,
28:02 then unemployment will increase,
28:04 so what are you saying, who is the Sindhi government supporting?
28:07 they are saying that they are supporting you,
28:08 what are you saying, who are you supporting?
28:09 I want to say the last thing,
28:10 I am saying that we have become the biggest victim in the delimitation,
28:14 our 4 seats have been finished,
28:17 Karachi has come and they say that we have the mandate of Karachi,
28:20 so let's compete,
28:22 we are ready to compete with you in all these circumstances,
28:25 with the whole of Karachi,
28:26 Karachi is a division,
28:28 but MQM's non-league union is not a bad thing,
28:32 from where I asked, it is not a bad thing, right?
28:33 Not at all,
28:35 I had said earlier that this is a union of two unemployed,
28:38 one unemployed came to the other unemployed,
28:41 let's do shopping for Eid,
28:42 both have empty pockets,
28:44 so we say that the mandate of the non-league union movement is not in Punjab,
28:48 and the mandate of the Punjab people is not in Sindh,
28:51 everyone has the right to do politics,
28:53 you can do it,
28:54 the ground is also ready,
28:55 and the second important thing,
28:56 Waseem bhai,
28:57 the non-league union movement has objections,
29:02 and who is the governor of the Sindh Nigrahakumat?
29:04 Obviously, it is MQM's,
29:06 it is MQM's,
29:08 who is the governor in Punjab?
29:10 PMLN's,
29:12 who is the governor in KPK?
29:14 Moulana Fadraman's,
29:16 all of them are together,
29:18 the governor in the provinces is yours,
29:20 we have no one,
29:22 tell him, Bashir da is responding to this,
29:24 we cannot even have one,
29:26 and then,
29:27 from Bashir Memon,
29:29 take a sponsor,
29:31 he has told you four sheets,
29:32 yes, Bashir da,
29:33 let me tell you one thing,
29:36 today Zamra sahib,
29:38 he said a very good thing,
29:40 is there any administrative job of a governor?
29:45 Sir, it is not on paper,
29:47 but you know what happens in Pakistan,
29:49 you know it better than me,
29:50 listen to me,
29:52 there is no administrative job,
29:55 administratively,
29:57 it means,
29:59 he is a representative of the state,
30:01 he is not a political person,
30:04 he cannot take part in politics,
30:07 and he is not active in administration,
30:10 this is the first thing,
30:12 the second thing is,
30:14 that in the Chief Minister of Punjab,
30:16 he has put a video,
30:18 please take that video out,
30:20 that he is my son,
30:22 I did not say that,
30:24 neither did I,
30:26 last week he told Mr. Ahmed Mir,
30:28 that he is still saying that he is my son,
30:30 he says he is my son,
30:32 okay,
30:34 when the Chief Minister of Punjab,
30:36 has put a video,
30:38 how did you do this?
30:40 But sir,
30:41 it is a due process,
30:43 it is not that Mr. Zardari said,
30:45 Mohsin you are my son,
30:47 you are the Chief Minister from tomorrow,
30:49 it is not like that,
30:51 it is a due process,
30:53 who put it?
30:55 I will say this,
30:57 instead of saying it in a big way,
31:01 I will say it in a simple way,
31:03 till now Mr. Wasim,
31:05 you do one thing,
31:07 you tell us your knowledge,
31:15 that what I am saying,
31:17 is it right or wrong,
31:19 that the system is still going on?
31:21 The system is still going on?
31:23 Yes sir, the system is…
31:25 I am not asking you a question,
31:27 I am not asking you a question,
31:29 I was about to answer,
31:31 I am not asking you a question,
31:33 because you will feel bad,
31:35 you will feel bad,
31:37 you will not answer,
31:39 I will answer,
31:41 I think the system is shining,
31:43 it is a little slow,
31:45 and after a few days,
31:47 it will come back to normal,
31:49 Mr. Damda, you tell us.
31:51 Okay,
31:53 first of all,
31:55 Mr. Bashir,
31:57 let me complete,
31:59 I am saying that
32:01 the system that was going on,
32:03 it was going on through this bureaucracy,
32:05 now it has become a little slow,
32:07 because we have started shouting,
32:09 that is why,
32:11 the Chief Minister
32:13 must have said something like this,
32:15 I will give you a small example,
32:17 which I wrote on the record,
32:19 to the Chief Election Commissioner,
32:21 I called him,
32:23 that I want to meet him,
32:25 after a while,
32:27 after a while,
32:29 I got a call from his protocol section,
32:31 I told him that
32:33 I want to meet the CM,
32:35 but I will request the CM,
32:37 that no one should be
32:39 a member of his staff,
32:41 okay,
32:43 after that day,
32:45 he asked me,
32:47 what time will be suitable for you,
32:49 I said, I will come whenever he makes,
32:51 okay,
32:53 I wanted to brief him,
32:55 that you,
32:57 obviously,
32:59 he is the Chief Minister,
33:01 Mr. Ali, I told him,
33:03 that I will meet him alone,
33:05 but the protocol section of the CM,
33:07 did not receive a call,
33:09 what do I understand,
33:11 I am a bureaucrat myself,
33:13 I have done my job,
33:15 he must have not forwarded this request,
33:17 that he is not getting in touch,
33:19 simple,
33:21 okay,
33:23 I will tell you,
33:25 that the CM was saying,
33:27 that there is no role of the Governor,
33:29 from the point of view of the Administrator,
33:31 you know,
33:33 that this news was also broken,
33:35 and it was in the media,
33:37 that Muslim League Loon,
33:39 had a meeting in the Governor's House,
33:41 in Punjab,
33:43 will Bashir Mehmed do this,
33:45 and he was saying,
33:47 that if my son is the CM in Punjab,
33:49 who appointed him,
33:51 why is Bashir Mehmed objecting,
33:53 why was there a silence,
33:55 from your Jamaat,
33:57 your home ground is that,
33:59 and as far as you are talking,
34:01 as far as the bureaucracy is concerned,
34:03 so in my opinion,
34:05 this is not a secret,
34:07 nor can anyone be fooled,
34:09 that where is the Chief Secretary of Sindh,
34:11 from,
34:13 does he have a connection from the morning,
34:15 where is the IG of Sindh,
34:17 does he have a connection from the morning,
34:19 where is the IG of Sindh,
34:21 does he have a connection from the morning,
34:23 that is why I said,
34:25 to please Bashir Mehmed and his party,
34:27 either put the whole province in jail,
34:29 and declare the entire jail as central jail,
34:31 and not allow any bureaucrat to come to office,
34:33 and work till 8th February,
34:35 number one,
34:37 when are we saying that we are ready to face you,
34:39 even in these circumstances,
34:41 in all these situations,
34:43 we are ready to face you,
34:45 and second thing,
34:47 the election commission is doing the transfer posting,
34:49 the Nigrahan government is sending recommendations,
34:51 and they are from there,
34:53 and you can say this,
34:55 because your united National Movement is saying,
34:57 for the election commission of Pakistan and Sindh,
34:59 you can say that you don't trust them,
35:01 you don't trust the Nigrahan government,
35:03 we know that after 8th February,
35:05 may God do it,
35:07 I am saying may God do it,
35:09 I am saying again may God do it,
35:11 that the elections are done,
35:13 then this is not a secret,
35:15 that after the elections,
35:17 they want to create this atmosphere,
35:19 that we had said earlier,
35:21 that the Nigrahan government is from the People's Party,
35:23 you can put your choice again,
35:25 you can put your choice again,
35:27 you can put your choice again,
35:29 we are ready to face you,
35:31 we are ready to face you,
35:33 I think that whatever is going on,
35:35 after 8th February,
35:37 you both will be united again,
35:39 that is why the election atmosphere is going on,
35:41 then we will see what happens after 8th February,
35:43 but thank you very much,
35:45 I hope Bashir Mehman sir,
35:47 your request is entertained by honourable
35:49 Chief Minister Sindh now,
35:51 thank you very much,
35:53 we will come back after a break with another story.
35:55 Before going, let's talk about cricket,
36:01 because today I am very happy
36:03 that Pakistan's women's cricket
36:05 has achieved a great achievement,
36:07 they have defeated New Zealand in New Zealand,
36:09 the victory that has been won by the Dutch,
36:11 Pakistan has won the first T20 series like this,
36:13 after 5 years,
36:15 from home,
36:17 after 5 years,
36:19 and this is Pakistan's first T20 series
36:21 victory of Pakistan women's cricket,
36:23 which is outside Asia and Ireland,
36:25 and the first Asian team to defeat New Zealand,
36:27 the first Asian team in the world,
36:29 Pakistan's women's cricket team,
36:31 and the second team in the world,
36:33 after England,
36:35 Pakistan's team,
36:37 which has defeated New Zealand in New Zealand,
36:39 which is of course,
36:41 running very well in terms of ranking,
36:43 and Pakistan's cricket team,
36:45 after the World Cup,
36:47 is in Australia,
36:49 Pakistan's test series with Australia
36:51 is about to start,
36:53 which record, although not very impressive,
36:55 Pakistan and Australia have played 69 test matches,
36:57 and out of that,
36:59 34,
37:01 Australia has won,
37:03 Pakistan has won only 15,
37:05 if we talk about the series,
37:07 Pakistan has played 13 test series
37:09 against Australia,
37:11 this is the 14th,
37:13 and Pakistan has not won a single series,
37:15 and out of this,
37:17 3 series have been won without any result,
37:19 and Australia has won the remaining 10 series,
37:21 so let's take a quick wrap up on this,
37:23 and with us is Shahid,
37:25 sports correspondent,
37:27 and Kamran Akmal,
37:29 our panelist,
37:31 and of course, our consultant,
37:33 Chief Selector of Pakistan Cricket Board,
37:35 Kamran, you have given your part in this series,
37:37 and congratulations to everyone,
37:39 the women's cricket team has done a great job,
37:41 and we are proud of you,
37:43 and talking about the Australia tour,
37:45 how positive are you,
37:47 Kamran Akmal,
37:49 because realistically speaking,
37:51 we have not won a single series,
37:53 in our track record,
37:55 Thank you very much,
37:57 first of all, greetings to you and Shahid,
37:59 and the second big achievement,
38:01 of the Pakistan women's team,
38:03 which has become a new team,
38:05 and it is a very big achievement,
38:07 and we are proud of you,
38:09 and we are proud of you,
38:11 Kamran, let's take you on the phone,
38:13 because your Skype is getting disconnected,
38:15 let's take you on the phone,
38:17 let's take Kamran on the phone,
38:19 and Shahid Ashmi,
38:21 Kamran will comment on this,
38:23 you tell us,
38:25 and if I ask a specific question,
38:27 because we don't have much time,
38:29 so now, about the Australia tour,
38:31 do you think it is possible,
38:33 that Sarfaraz will play as a keeper,
38:35 and Rizwan as a batsman,
38:37 do you think it will be a good decision?
38:39 We can play both,
38:41 because Rizwan has a good record in Australia,
38:43 he plays well in Australia,
38:45 he plays his pull, hook and cut shot well,
38:47 which is a requirement in Australia,
38:49 so if someone has a good record,
38:51 in the last test match,
38:53 instead of Sarfaraz,
38:55 there was a concussion substitute,
38:57 Rizwan did 50 there,
38:59 and Saud Shaquille,
39:01 who has scored double 100 in Sri Lanka,
39:03 Agha Salman, who scored 100 in the last test match,
39:05 so if there is no space,
39:07 we can play only one keeper,
39:09 but we can play both,
39:11 there is no problem.
39:13 And one more comment,
39:15 obviously this team has gone to Australia,
39:17 Haris Rauf,
39:19 Babriyar,
39:21 he openly expressed his displeasure,
39:23 that Pakistan should be preferred,
39:25 the board will prefer such players,
39:27 who will prefer Pakistan in the future,
39:29 now they are going to play a big match,
39:31 and they are going with the PCB's NOC,
39:33 so do you think,
39:35 in the team selection,
39:37 because we saw the performance in the World Cup,
39:39 some new inductions are made,
39:41 now the National T20 is going on,
39:43 for example,
39:45 if I say about Ahmed Shehzad,
39:47 he has played 4 consecutive 50s,
39:49 do you think his place is made,
39:51 or if the board says that such players will be preferred,
39:53 then they say,
39:55 we didn't take part in the T10,
39:57 we preferred domestic cricket,
39:59 do you think there is a place in the team,
40:01 or in the central contact?
40:03 Ahmed Shehzad is performing well,
40:05 his PR is also very good,
40:07 people are making a lot of noise for him on social media,
40:09 but the team is settled,
40:11 if you take Saim Ayub,
40:13 he is giving a very good performance,
40:15 he has played for Pakistan for the last 1.5-2 years,
40:17 he has played for Pakistan for the last 1.5-2 years,
40:19 Abdullah Shafiq is playing very well,
40:21 you can't remove Baba Razam and Rizwan from T20,
40:23 so Ahmed Shehzad's place is not made,
40:25 but he will definitely come into consideration,
40:27 and he should get a chance,
40:29 he plays well.
40:31 This is one name,
40:33 but do you think that apart from Ahmed Shehzad,
40:35 there are some new inductions being made,
40:37 or we should see this from this,
40:39 from this one day?
40:41 There are 1-2 players,
40:43 who can be inducted,
40:45 there are 5 T20s from Pakistan, New Zealand,
40:47 you can try 1-8 players,
40:49 but now there are only 5-6 months left in the T20,
40:51 in the World Cup,
40:53 so you have to settle your team from now,
40:55 you have to manage your fast bowler,
40:57 who can be inducted in the T20,
40:59 who can be inducted in the World Cup,
41:01 who can be inducted in the T20,
41:03 who can be inducted in the World Cup,
41:05 Yassir Khan from Pindi is playing very well,
41:07 he has done 100, he has done 50,
41:09 Ahmed Shehzad is playing very well,
41:11 so there are 2-3 players,
41:13 you can try 1-8 players in the T20,
41:15 in the New Zealand series.
41:17 And Mr. Kamran,
41:19 I am sorry, I have lost your Skype connection,
41:21 if you are on the phone,
41:23 please tell us,
41:25 this is about the Australia series,
41:27 the T20 World Cup is in the future,
41:29 how satisfied are you,
41:31 because we don't have a track record,
41:33 first of all,
41:35 greetings to you and Shahid bhai,
41:37 and secondly,
41:39 congratulations from my side,
41:41 from the whole of Pakistan,
41:43 to the women's team,
41:45 which has achieved a big achievement,
41:47 congratulations to the team management,
41:49 as far as Australia is concerned,
41:51 Australia is always a tough tour,
41:53 we have also been on a tough tour,
41:55 but I have also said to you,
41:57 that we have to break this tradition,
41:59 so the way the team has prepared,
42:01 I feel confident,
42:03 I feel that we should play good cricket,
42:05 it is a matter of the present,
42:07 but aggressive cricket should be seen,
42:09 the aggressive cricket we had for 3-4 years,
42:11 unfortunately we were not playing,
42:13 our victory was not so much,
42:15 in the test matches,
42:17 in the home series,
42:19 so now we have to get out of this,
42:21 and play good cricket,
42:23 so in your capacity,
42:25 will you tell the players,
42:27 to stop the fear of losing and winning,
42:29 it should feel like we have fought,
42:31 we have to play bravely,
42:33 the rest is not a problem,
42:35 I think the team management director,
42:37 who is Muhammad Hafeez,
42:39 Shahid Ajmal,
42:41 then Kaptaan Neha,
42:43 then Shahan,
42:45 so I think they are playing aggressive,
42:47 domestic cricket,
42:49 they are in a great form,
42:51 they are not in a good form in the last 10 matches,
42:53 they have not performed in the last 16-17 leagues,
42:55 but they have the ability,
42:57 when they get in form,
42:59 the rest of the batsmen,
43:01 our batting order is set,
43:03 in bowling, you will miss Naseem,
43:05 in the test matches,
43:07 there are new bowlers with Shaheen,
43:09 it is very important to perform,
43:11 they are playing well,
43:13 the Australia tour,
43:15 Moosa and Naseem Shah,
43:17 were playing less matches,
43:19 this domestic,