Off The Record | Kashif Abbasi | ARY News | 14th December 2023
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(Current Affairs)
Host:
- Kashif Abbasi
Guests:
- Rauf Klasra (Analyst)
- Ather Kazmi (Analyst)
- Barrister Ali Zafar PTI
- Mohammad Zubair Umar PMLN
Ather Kazmi & Rauf Klasra’s analysis on pakistan's economic crisis
PTI Intra-Party Election: What is PTI's Plan 'B' and 'C'? - Barrister Ali Zafar Gives Big News
"Ju Bhi New Govt Aygi Usko...", Mohammad Zubair's Big Statement
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(Current Affairs)
Host:
- Kashif Abbasi
Guests:
- Rauf Klasra (Analyst)
- Ather Kazmi (Analyst)
- Barrister Ali Zafar PTI
- Mohammad Zubair Umar PMLN
Ather Kazmi & Rauf Klasra’s analysis on pakistan's economic crisis
PTI Intra-Party Election: What is PTI's Plan 'B' and 'C'? - Barrister Ali Zafar Gives Big News
"Ju Bhi New Govt Aygi Usko...", Mohammad Zubair's Big Statement
Follow the ARY News channel on WhatsApp: https://bit.ly/46e5HzY
Subscribe to our channel and press the bell icon for latest news updates: http://bit.ly/3e0SwKP
ARY News is a leading Pakistani news channel that promises to bring you factual and timely international stories and stories about Pakistan, sports, entertainment, and business, amid others.
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00:00 the program. Uh elections.
00:22 Uh the ROs and DROs. Uh uh.
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01:32That Pakistan became a beggar who had lived to playing high-fives in nature, and we said
01:39 bye to the Island (IMF)
01:40 Prime Minister Qaza Mirzaенияh's Government in 1999 said that we killed theisland in 1996
01:46 and people in India have never been killed.
01:48 Why was that tema raised in 1999?
01:50 Our countrymens were oppressed.
01:52 The resistance that Pakistan had in the 1999 elections was fuel for the miracle that happened
02:00 in the 1990s.
02:02 The government that was in power in the 1990s was not in power in the 1990s.
02:10 The government that was in power in the 1990s was not in power in the 1990s.
02:16 The government that was in power in the 1990s was not in power in the 1990s.
02:21 The government that was in power in the 1990s was not in power in the 1990s.
02:26 Pakistan will have to borrow money from somewhere.
02:30 Either we can issue a bond, or we can go to the IMF, or we can go to a friend of ours.
02:34 Whatever government comes, whether it's Imran Khan's or yours, it should come to the IMF.
02:37 We give 2400 billion rupees to the provinces, so we have 1600 billion rupees.
02:40 Out of that 1500 billion rupees is interest.
02:42 So in total you gave me 100 billion rupees and said run the whole government, run the
02:45 whole army, give pension.
02:46 This is not possible.
02:47 So he said that you will have to go somewhere and you will remember that Imran Khan's
02:53 government came, Asad Umar didn't go to the IMF immediately.
02:57 So this was the biggest criticism from the Muslim League No No People's Party that you
03:01 delayed it, because of which the economy was ruined.
03:04 So if this claim is being made between 2013 and 2018 that if you got rid of the IMF,
03:10 then this claim is not correct.
03:12 You still had to go to the IMF.
03:15 Your own finance minister, who was the outgoing finance minister at that time, said in TV
03:19 programs that Pakistan will have to go to the IMF.
03:22 And then Pakistan has not only one program with the IMF, your government has also done
03:26 another program with the IMF.
03:28 We mentioned some signs, Mian Nawaz Sharif Sahib in his speech that when I went, what
03:32 were the signs?
03:33 So we said that the day Mian Sahib went, his government went in July 2018, in which Shahid
03:38 Khan Abbasi was the Prime Minister.
03:40 Imran Khan's government went in April 2022 and in August 2023, when this government
03:46 went to the PDM, let's see a comparison of that.
03:50 Some things are fine with Mian Sahib, which is the bottom of the page, let's start with
03:54 GDP.
03:55 When Mian Sahib left the government, he was helped.
03:58 Your GDP was 5.3%.
04:00 In July 2018, it was 5.7%.
04:04 When Imran Khan's government left, it was 5.9%.
04:08 And when the PDM government left, Pakistan's growth was 0.29%.
04:14 So the first correction is that if Mian Sahib has to ask a question, then he should ask
04:18 Mian Sahib that the GDP which remained till 5, although I will make one more correction,
04:24 or the clarification is that in the period of Tariq-e-Insaf, the GDP went down even in
04:28 the negative when the Covid period came, but when it went, it was 5.9% GDP which the PDM
04:34 government took and left at 0.29% because everyone uses their last year's figures,
04:40 they use the figures of the day they left, so that's why.
04:43 The dollar is a very important component, today he mentioned the dollar, we left the
04:47 dollar at 1.5% and when Mian Sahib left, it was correct, it was 105.42$ at that time,
04:52 if you can show it on full screen.
04:54 But in July 2018, when his own government left, it was 124.35$, it was settled, it went
05:01 up to 128$.
05:02 When Tariq-e-Insaf's government left, it was 172$ when his government left, but when
05:08 the middle phase passed, it came to 182$ and it was settled.
05:12 When Ishaq Dar Sahib's government left, Miftah Ismail left at 124$ and Ishaq Dar Sahib
05:18 left the dollar at 288.49$.
05:20 Petrol is another very important figure which you can see below, Mian Nawaz Sharif Sahib
05:25 left at 72$, Shahid Khan Abbasi Sahib at 97.25$, Tariq-e-Insaf at 150.63$ and Ishaq Dar
05:37 Sahib and Miftah Ismail Sahib's Shahbaz Sharif Sahib government left.
05:44 Mian Sahib mentioned about flour, he mentioned about roti that it is 25$ roti, flour at 36$
05:49 and 54$ Mian Sahib left, it was almost the same when Shahid Sahib left.
05:54 When Imran Khan Sahib left the government, it was 54.69$ for flour, at 141.17$, PDM
06:02 government left the flour price.
06:05 He mentioned about sugar, sugar at 55$ per kg, Mian Nawaz Sharif left, it was almost
06:13 the same at 55$, Shahid Khan Abbasi left.
06:16 You must have heard the slogans of sugar thief when sugar price went at 85$ and 90$, he
06:21 touched 100$ during Tariq-e-Insaf and at 150.63$ Shahbaz Sharif's government left sugar
06:30 at 55$ and at 170$, it was almost the same at 80$.
06:35 But Pakistan was left so sugar price was acceptable.
06:38 So when Mian Sahib has to do this comparison, don't forget PDM government, that comparison
06:47 will be good with them.
06:49 Mian Sahib said one more thing in yesterday's speech and today's speech, he said JIT will
06:54 be made on 8th February, which it will be made.
06:57 But there is a problem, like JIT's Hakire was saying today, same type of JIT is sitting
07:03 on 8th February.
07:04 Same type of Judiciary and Judges Mian Sahib was mentioning in today's speech, I think
07:09 8th February Judges are also same.
07:11 Because the favours that were done on Imran Khan Sahib in 2018 and Mian Sahib was in jail,
07:17 more favours are being done on Mian Sahib, Tariq-e-Insaf is in more trouble than that.
07:23 Tariq-e-Insaf is in more trouble than that.
07:27 Listen to what Mian Sahib said.
07:52 So Mian Sahib said there are judges and JIT will also be sitting on 8th February.
07:56 The biggest judges will be the people of Pakistan and this is correct that the real
08:02 source of power is the people.
08:04 It is the people who decide.
08:06 But the people should be allowed to decide through a free and fair election.
08:14 Mian Sahib, now when he is talking about JIT and Judge, he also knows what the situation
08:20 is.
08:21 He is also being called the king's party, he is also being called selected.
08:31 But he is still adamant that JIT and Judge will sit on 8th February.
08:37 Thank you very much for being with us.
08:40 A big issue is PTI, will it be able to take the bullet?
08:44 Looking at the situation today, I don't think so.
08:47 I have been saying for a long time that some people of the city are also cruel.
08:51 Some people are dying.
08:53 If Tariq-e-Insaf had done a better election, then perhaps all the objections that are being
08:57 raised today that you did not do this, you did not do that and you are giving clarification,
09:01 but what reason have they given themselves in the hands of the Election Commission?
09:06 Raghub Sahib, before that, let's tell you that this is the narrative of Mian Sahib's
09:11 past.
09:12 This is his narrative.
09:13 This will be the story now.
09:14 See where we left off, I did not bring the government of PDI-1 Shabaz Sharif.
09:19 There was a dialogue of a movie by Mithab, the line starts from where we stand.
09:25 So this is the story that the line will start from where we will stand.
09:28 You gave a very interesting intro, very important.
09:30 I am a reporter type of people, so such things hit us a little.
09:35 You did not pay attention to Mr. Miftai Ismail's point.
09:38 You were sitting there, our friend Arshad was also sitting there.
09:41 He was very sad that he was with you.
09:44 He said that I am giving 1500 billion rupees in interest.
09:48 There was also a finance committee of the Senate, Mr. Salim Anwaniwala, so I had also
09:53 been there.
09:54 Sir, do you know how many figures are there?
09:56 In 5 years, I said this was the clip of 2018, at that time he was saying that we are giving
10:00 1500 billion rupees in interest.
10:02 Now there it is said in the finance committee that you are giving 4000 billion rupees in
10:06 interest.
10:07 In 5 years, your interest has reached 4000 billion rupees from 1500 billion.
10:11 He was sitting and crying at that time that how can I pay my salary here, do PSDP, forge
10:15 a project.
10:16 I was saying that more than the loan taken by Mr. Roh, the government took more loan
10:19 only for 18-16 months.
10:20 Sir, I am coming to this.
10:21 Because you have no option.
10:22 Let me say this also.
10:23 I blame governments for their mismanagement.
10:24 That they have done some state owned enterprises on their heads.
10:25 But when you did this NFC, after that, I will tell you another interesting thing.
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35:17 You are right.
35:19 What is the issue here?
35:21 You said that the petition has been submitted
35:23 and it is being taken back.
35:25 I don't think it will be taken back so soon.
35:27 The lawyer who has petitioned,
35:29 Abuzar Salman Niazi,
35:31 he is saying that in the next 2-3 days
35:33 we hope that a hearing will be held.
35:35 When the hearing is held,
35:37 a decision will be made
35:39 and things can move forward accordingly.
35:41 As far as the election is concerned,
35:43 we have not seen a situation
35:45 on the ground
35:47 that can be said to be a basis for not having elections.
35:49 I don't know if there will be elections
35:51 or if there is some other reason.
35:53 Everything is on track.
35:55 The election commission is working.
35:57 There are intra-party elections.
35:59 What about the election results?
36:01 There are objections on the results.
36:03 There are objections.
36:05 The objection on why the dough is moving
36:07 is the same as the one on the election.
36:09 The problem is that
36:11 if the FBI is after you,
36:13 like what happened in the case
36:15 of the Tosha Khana,
36:17 if you read the verdict,
36:19 it is written that the dough should have gone
36:21 in this room, but it went in that room.
36:23 If you are not caught, you can catch them in anything.
36:25 They usually give you leverages
36:27 that you have largely corrected it.
36:29 If they want to catch you,
36:31 then they will catch you.
36:33 What will be the plan B?
36:35 I don't understand what is planned B in this case?
36:37 This is a very serious
36:39 discussion in the community.
36:41 They know that this can happen.
36:43 They have discussed candidates,
36:45 freedom of expression.
36:47 I asked about freedom of expression.
36:49 They will be free.
36:51 What will be their election result?
36:53 The community has discussed all this.
36:55 Secondly, even if the dough is taken back,
36:57 it will not make a difference.
36:59 The flow of information is so fast
37:01 that people will immediately know
37:03 what the next sign is.
37:05 Yes, one thing can happen.
37:07 If they are free, then it is not
37:09 dependent on the party.
37:11 If a forward group is formed,
37:13 then it is not dependent on them.
37:15 When you go to the assembly,
37:17 you have to decide
37:19 whether you want to join a party or not.
37:21 If they join,
37:23 and if they become a party,
37:25 then you are bound by that.
37:27 If the party is not free,
37:29 then you are not bound.
37:31 I was listening to Ali Zafar.
37:33 He said a very good thing.
37:35 If you are in a difficult situation,
37:37 then you can do anything.
37:39 He is a gentleman.
37:41 He is very soft.
37:43 You and I are not good.
37:45 You have admitted it yourself.
37:47 I will not break your heart.
37:49 I will not say no.
37:51 If you think so, then fair enough.
37:53 He thinks you are just
37:55 beating me up for no reason.
37:57 He said that we have a bigger strategy.
37:59 I got a little angry at that.
38:01 I said that Ali Usman,
38:03 who edits your videos,
38:05 is a great man.
38:07 He was told that
38:09 in the last one or two years,
38:11 when Khan was out of power,
38:13 he told me that he had
38:15 a thousand strategies.
38:17 He said that he had
38:19 three or four people
38:21 on one gunshot.
38:23 While running this strategy,
38:25 Shah Maud Quraish,
38:27 Khan, Fawad,
38:29 and Chaudhary Parvez have been in jail.
38:31 He said that we should have
38:33 had a strategy of
38:35 patience and wait and see.
38:37 He said that we should slow down
38:39 and then speed up again.
38:41 He said that we should slow down
38:43 and then speed up again.
38:45 He said that we have a lot of strategies.
38:47 He said that he would not let anyone
38:49 go.
38:51 He said that we should have
38:53 a strategy of patience and wait and see.
38:55 He said that we should have
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