Off The Record | Kashif Abbasi | ARY News | 29th Januray 2024

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Transcript
00:00 Assalamu alaikum, you are watching the program with Kashif Abbasi.
00:16 The election campaign is going on.
00:18 Everyone is participating except for the Tariq-e-Insaf.
00:21 All the parties are holding their election campaigns with great freedom.
00:26 They are holding their elections.
00:28 Tariq-e-Insaf is facing a lot of difficulties in holding the elections.
00:32 They are trying to save themselves from the difficulties.
00:36 Yesterday, they announced a rally in Pakistan.
00:42 I saw the footages.
00:43 I saw the boys on motorcycles, ahead and the police behind.
00:48 It looked more like a film than an election scene.
00:51 We will come to the Tariq-e-Insaf issues in a while.
00:55 We will come to the political parties.
00:58 But if you see, the political parties have issued a petition.
01:02 Will this petition be a piece of paper,
01:05 and will they cook fritters and samosas on it and go?
01:08 Or will someone act on it?
01:10 The decision will be made in due course.
01:12 But if you look at the history,
01:14 history laughs at these petitions and turns its face away.
01:18 This is the lollipop that is given to people in every election.
01:22 It is a lollipop.
01:25 The political parties think that it is not necessary to act on it.
01:29 The election politics is in full swing.
01:32 In our election politics, Punjab has a very strong role.
01:36 The one who wins in Punjab,
01:38 makes his government in the alliance.
01:40 The news of the market today is that
01:42 Mian Nawaz Sharif will be the next Prime Minister.
01:44 He was on a plane from London as the Prime Minister.
01:48 All the obstacles in his way were cleared.
01:52 But the election will still have to win.
01:55 He will have to put in more effort.
01:57 Maybe now he has realized that he has started the Jalsa Jalus.
02:02 Now, even after so much help,
02:04 if Mian Sahib does not win, it will be unfair.
02:07 Many critics are not ready to give him a clear majority.
02:11 It seems that they will make a mixed government.
02:14 But who is his opponent in Punjab?
02:16 Some political parties, like People's Party,
02:19 will perform well.
02:22 It seems that the most powerful opposition to justice
02:26 will be from someone else, not from the Muslim League.
02:30 But Punjab is the battleground from which the Prime Minister is elected.
02:34 Who will be the opponent?
02:37 Bilawal Bhutto Zardari thinks that the opposition is of an arrow and a lion.
02:41 Will the People's Party be able to give the Muslim League a tough time?
02:45 In South Punjab, the People's Party is more hopeful than the results.
02:49 And looking at some circles, it seems that this time
02:51 their candidates will be in a better position than some.
02:54 But in the last two elections,
02:56 the People's Party could not even enter the double figures in Punjab.
03:00 Bilawal Bhutto has run a good campaign in these elections.
03:03 Will he be able to put a dent in Punjab?
03:07 How many seats will he win from Punjab?
03:09 Let's leave this decision on time.
03:11 The campaign is good.
03:13 But will there be a battle of arrows and lions in Punjab?
03:17 There will be in some places.
03:19 But if the real battle is between the Muslim League,
03:21 the Noon and the Tariq-e-Insaf,
03:23 the supporters of freedom and justice,
03:25 then maybe it won't be wrong.
03:27 What will happen in that?
03:29 Again, this is an election in which you cannot predict much
03:33 because of the circumstances, some events,
03:35 some things that will be seen on 8th February.
03:40 But there is one thing for sure.
03:42 There has been a change in politics.
03:44 There was a time when there was a lot of discussion
03:47 about the wind in Pakistani politics.
03:49 Whose wind is blowing?
03:51 The wind is blowing towards him.
03:53 And the one who was blowing,
03:55 often the voters were also moving towards him.
03:57 These were the events of a few years ago.
04:02 The one whose voice was heard that he had all the powers,
04:06 he will win the election,
04:08 this was called the wind.
04:10 The wind was blown,
04:12 now whose turn is it?
04:14 The vote was also up to him.
04:16 But in the 2018 election,
04:18 the Muslim League Noon proved this concept of wind wrong.
04:22 And it became the majority of the Punjab Jamaat.
04:25 Even though they were in a position to make a government
04:29 in Punjab, at least to the extent of the province of Punjab.
04:32 But Jahangir Taneen's ship robbed the freedom fair.
04:35 Will Tariq-e-Insaf be able to do this?
04:38 Will he be able to win against the opposition?
04:43 This is the biggest question
04:45 which we will get the answer to on 8th February.
04:48 It is a very tough competition.
04:51 As they say in English, odds are stacked against them.
04:55 We will see how they perform.
04:57 Pakistani politics is also changing a little.
05:00 The voter is not the same as before.
05:02 It is the era of social media.
05:04 You will remember,
05:06 the 20 seats in the Zimni election in Punjab,
05:09 Tariq-e-Insaf won 15 of those seats.
05:12 Hamza Shahbaz was the technical minister at that time.
05:15 He was the minister.
05:16 But when people were disqualified,
05:18 he was made the technical minister.
05:20 The voters turned the tables.
05:22 This challenge is still before Tariq-e-Insaf.
05:25 Will their voter be able to win against them
05:28 despite all the difficulties?
05:30 Many people are fighting the election from jail.
05:33 8th February is not far.
05:35 All these decisions will be made on 8th February.
05:38 But one thing is for sure,
05:40 I have never seen such a weak atmosphere in the elections.
05:44 Now the Muslim League has started the Jalsas.
05:47 Otherwise, only People's Party was holding Jalsas.
05:50 And as I said,
05:51 a very good campaign was made by Pakistan People's Party,
05:54 by Bilawal Bhutto.
05:56 Tariq-e-Insaf is in such a difficult situation
05:59 that no one was giving them a chance to win
06:01 even a little while ago.
06:03 Earlier, it was said that Imran Khan was punished.
06:06 He is in jail.
06:07 PTI was over.
06:08 Then it was said that they will not get candidates in the elections.
06:12 The lines were set.
06:13 Candidates came.
06:14 Even today, the Muslim League believes,
06:16 and I talk to people,
06:18 that their competition in Punjab
06:20 is more than the free candidates of Tariq-e-Insaf.
06:24 The sad reality of the situation is that
06:27 first, Imran Khan's name could not be mentioned.
06:30 Then the problems on the party started to increase.
06:33 Big leaders left the political party.
06:36 You saw,
06:37 Secretary General Asad Omar,
06:39 Fawad Chaudhary,
06:40 and many more people.
06:41 A line was set up,
06:42 which people were doing from the press conference.
06:45 They left the party.
06:46 A tightrope was made.
06:48 Second tier leadership was left.
06:50 Imran Khan was punished.
06:52 He went to jail.
06:53 He is still in jail.
06:54 The party's symbol was taken on technical grounds.
06:57 Every candidate is fighting for a different symbol.
07:01 This election campaign of Tariq-e-Insaf
07:03 seems like an impossible campaign.
07:05 Because it is easy to tell everyone one symbol.
07:08 But in every circle,
07:10 if MNA and MPS have different symbols,
07:12 electoral symbols,
07:14 it is very difficult to convey it in every circle.
07:18 They don't have their banner posters.
07:21 I have just been to Pindi,
07:23 and places in Islamabad where I go,
07:26 I see that their banner posters are not visible.
07:29 Other political parties' banner posters are visible.
07:32 But let's see what Tariq-e-Insaf can do during this.
07:37 Even after this,
07:40 Tariq-e-Insaf found a way
07:42 to use social media to tell their voters
07:44 about their electoral symbol.
07:47 So all websites have been blocked since last week.
07:51 Punjab, which is the biggest political battlefield,
07:55 I have not seen any Tariq-e-Insaf rally.
07:59 On Sunday, we saw crackdowns in rallies all over Pakistan.
08:05 On the day when every political party was holding rallies,
08:08 Mr. Mian was addressing the Muslim community in Sialkot.
08:13 Mr. Bilawal was doing a power show in a very impressive Jalsa in Liaquat Bagh.
08:18 He was campaigning for freedom.
08:20 He was fighting for his election with freedom.
08:22 We saw crackdowns in Tariq-e-Insaf rallies.
08:26 Today, every channel had news that FIRAs have been registered.
08:30 This is the situation in every election campaign.
08:34 Yesterday, I saw in Karachi,
08:36 how the SHOs were treated.
08:39 I think Tariq-e-Insaf should learn a lesson.
08:42 These are also state representatives.
08:44 When you emphasize these incidents and these situations
08:47 on state officials,
08:50 I thought PTI would have learned a lesson.
08:56 But yesterday, we saw FIRAs on their leadership.
09:02 People were arrested.
09:04 They will be arrested again.
09:06 They should also try to run the campaign in a peaceful manner.
09:08 Obviously, the situation is bad.
09:10 But on the other hand,
09:12 every political party has the right to run an election campaign.
09:15 They should be allowed to run this campaign.
09:18 Let's see if these incidents change in the next few days.
09:23 We will talk about this too.
09:25 But as I said, this case was a level playing field.
09:28 It was in the Supreme Court too.
09:30 Tariq-e-Insaf has taken back that case.
09:33 But this level playing field should be maintained.
09:35 But on the other hand, as I said, Manchur.
09:37 Is Manchur really important for political parties?
09:41 Javed Latif is with us.
09:44 We will talk to him too.
09:46 We will talk to Salman Akram Raja.
09:48 Tariq-e-Insaf has also announced Manchur.
09:50 Assalam-o-Alaikum, Mr. Mian.
09:52 Assalam-o-Alaikum, Mr. Mian.
09:54 Javed Latif.
09:56 Mr. Mian, you have announced Manchur.
09:59 I was reading your Manchur.
10:01 It is very interesting.
10:03 Obviously, every political party makes claims.
10:05 We will do this and that.
10:07 You look worried.
10:08 Are you not worried?
10:10 Mr. Mian.
10:12 No, I have come from the Jalsas.
10:15 I have to go to Jalsas.
10:17 I am doing this program.
10:19 Jalsas are being held here too.
10:21 I want to leave quickly and attend Jalsas.
10:24 This is my worry.
10:26 I know.
10:27 I have been watching Jalsas since my childhood.
10:29 In this political environment,
10:31 in this election environment,
10:33 I understand that the candidate,
10:35 the candidate who is hopeful,
10:37 tries to run, attend Jalsas,
10:39 meet people, have corner meetings.
10:41 I think everyone should have this right.
10:43 Will you do this?
10:45 Kashif Abbasi,
10:47 every political party should have this opportunity.
10:56 They should run election campaigns,
10:58 they should attend Jalsas.
11:00 But I am saying this with a sad heart.
11:05 Because I know what you will say in response.
11:09 If you publicly talk about the institutions,
11:15 and this is happening today,
11:17 and it is being done on the Lord Speaker,
11:21 that the institution is in politics,
11:26 the institution is doing this,
11:28 the chief is doing all this,
11:31 all these things,
11:33 if you ask me,
11:35 you would not say this,
11:37 but I would say,
11:39 when people were involved in this,
11:42 we used to take names,
11:44 we never took the names of institutions before,
11:47 but by criticizing the institutions,
11:51 you are exposing the feelings of the people,
11:54 or their weaknesses,
11:57 or their feelings,
11:59 about their deprivation,
12:02 and by exposing them,
12:04 do you want to stand against the institution?
12:07 And do you want to stand against the state?
12:12 And it would be great if,
12:15 if someone considers 9th and 10th May as a crime,
12:19 then there is a law in Pakistan that is in support of that crime.
12:24 And they should take their own path.
12:26 I have no doubt about this.
12:28 I have no objection.
12:30 I am telling you,
12:32 the people of America who attacked Capitol Hill,
12:34 and they will not forgive anyone,
12:37 and they should not,
12:39 they should discourage these things,
12:41 that these incidents should not happen again,
12:43 but as you said,
12:44 what will I answer to that?
12:46 You yourself know that you used to do the same,
12:49 you used to take the names of the generals,
12:51 in the gatherings,
12:52 in the press conferences.
12:54 Listen to me,
12:56 with great respect,
12:58 I will not answer you in that way,
13:03 but I will request you,
13:05 that we used to do it,
13:08 but did we throw petrol bombs on the institutions,
13:13 did we attack in this way?
13:16 No one in the history of Pakistan has done this.
13:19 I am talking about a long time,
13:21 no one has done this.
13:22 And as far as criticism is concerned,
13:26 this is your right to make a decision.
13:30 The law gives you the right to make a decision.
13:33 But after listening to you,
13:35 it seems that if we do it, it is fine,
13:37 no one else should do it,
13:38 but this is another issue,
13:40 the institutions will decide for themselves.
13:42 No, no, listen to me.
13:46 No, no, brother, wait a second.
13:49 When you talk about this,
13:51 I have a lot of objections to this.
13:54 I am saying this to you,
13:56 I am not saying that if I do it, it is fine,
13:59 if someone else does it, it is wrong.
14:01 You tell me,
14:02 did the incident of 9-10 May,
14:05 in a 75 year history,
14:07 was done by some other political party?
14:09 Yes, it was done, who is saying that it was right?
14:11 Then forgive them too.
14:12 Who is saying that it was right?
14:13 Then why do you say this?
14:14 No, then why do you say this?
14:16 They are doing it, they are suffering.
14:18 If someone else does it, it is wrong.
14:20 You use the word 'criticism' and '9-10 May' in the same sentence.
14:25 I say that if someone is criticized,
14:27 you have also done it,
14:28 you say that we did it, but they should not do it.
14:30 We say 9-10 May again and again,
14:32 we also say that whoever is involved in it,
14:34 should be punished.
14:36 When I used to talk,
14:38 listen to me,
14:39 when we used to talk, Kashif Abbasi,
14:41 then we used to keep the evidence with us and say,
14:44 that see this, they did it,
14:46 and someone else did it.
14:48 Now tell me,
14:50 that without any evidence,
14:52 you put allegations,
14:54 you say that the Chief of Army Staff,
14:56 should not be punished,
14:58 I will stand in his way.
15:00 Someone else should be punished.
15:02 Who are you?
15:04 In what position are you?
15:06 This is someone's job, his job.
15:08 Yes, your job is fine, but the problem is this.
15:10 One second, one second.
15:12 My brother, my brother,
15:14 my brother, my brother,
15:16 you see, that Imran Khan,
15:18 however the Prime Minister was made,
15:20 he became the Prime Minister.
15:22 He had the power.
15:24 Sir, everyone says that
15:26 Mian Sahib is being made the Prime Minister in the same way.
15:28 He does not give extension to anyone.
15:30 But today, when he got down,
15:32 when he did not have that power,
15:34 then why should he talk?
15:36 I never agree.
15:38 Sir, Mian Sahib is also being made the Prime Minister in the same way.
15:40 Mian Sahib, Mian Nawaz Sharif Shah
15:42 is also being made the Prime Minister in the same way.
15:44 He is also being made the Prime Minister.
15:46 He could have been made the Prime Minister from London.
15:48 This is also wrong.
15:50 You will not agree.
15:52 Ask someone else.
15:54 No, no, no, no, no.
15:56 My brother, this atmosphere is being tried to create.
15:58 This is such an atmosphere
16:00 is being tried to create
16:02 that as if the vote is not being read,
16:04 but they are being selected
16:06 as if in 2018
16:08 someone else was selected.
16:10 This is wrong.
16:12 Sir, Bilawal Sahib
16:14 has also said the same.
16:16 He has conspired
16:18 to make Mian Sahib the Prime Minister.
16:20 He said that he has become the fourth minister.
16:22 No one will accept. Mian Sahib is selected.
16:24 Leave the way of justice.
16:26 I am talking about the People's Party.
16:28 One second Kashif.
16:30 You are fighting
16:32 an election of an anti-political
16:34 Jamaat.
16:36 On their saying,
16:38 will they believe it to be true and put a blame on me?
16:40 This is not your work.
16:42 This is your work
16:44 only when
16:46 a decision comes from somewhere
16:48 which you used to tell us
16:50 that the court has given a decision.
16:52 What can I do?
16:54 I am telling you this.
16:56 The court has given a decision. Is Imran Khan in?
16:58 No.
17:00 No.
17:02 Imran Khan is not in?
17:04 No, no.
17:06 The situation in London is still easy.
17:08 Is he walking in the park?
17:10 Not only the park,
17:12 no prisoner in the world
17:14 has this facility
17:16 which Imran Khan has in Pakistan.
17:18 People raise questions
17:20 that where is this facility
17:22 being provided from?
17:24 When I talk,
17:26 you ask me to tell you where is the facility
17:28 being provided from.
17:30 Tell me where is it being provided from?
17:32 Yes, yes.
17:34 The one who brought him
17:36 is still being provided
17:38 with the facility.
17:40 And this
17:42 Pakistanis did not bring him empty handed.
17:44 Listen to me.
17:46 Pakistanis did not bring him empty handed.
17:48 If Nawaz Sharif
17:50 did not start
17:52 the CPAC project
17:54 or
17:56 if Nawaz Sharif
17:58 did not make the defence of Pakistan
18:00 impossible, then hijacking would have been prohibited.
18:02 If Nawaz Sharif did not give the CPAC,
18:04 then the defence of Pakistan would have been impossible.
18:06 I am speaking straight forward.
18:08 The problem is that
18:10 our example
18:12 is like our dog,
18:14 your dog Tommy.
18:16 If we are involved,
18:18 then it is a conspiracy.
18:20 If he is involved, then everything is fine.
18:22 The problem is that
18:24 leave this decision on history.
18:26 Leave this decision on history.
18:28 Tell me, did Kashif Abbasi
18:30 get selected or not?
18:32 One second.
18:34 I am saying that
18:36 whether he would have done the work
18:38 on 9th or 10th May or not.
18:40 If you put this allegation on me
18:42 that I did it on 9th or 10th May,
18:44 then I will accept it. You say it.
18:46 I am saying that the way he did it,
18:48 he will be punished.
18:50 The problem is that
18:52 you believe one fact to be a fact
18:54 and the rest you do as you wish.
18:56 You analyse that.
18:58 The whole world is saying that the ways for Mian sir are being cleared.
19:00 Your opponents are saying
19:02 that the ways are being cleared.
19:04 The whole world is seeing it.
19:06 If not, then why is Mian Jameel Nateem not seeing it?
19:08 Listen to me.
19:10 When the Sadiq and Mian
19:12 certificates were given by the courts,
19:14 I did not believe it.
19:16 I said that... Sir, they did not give it to Mian sir.
19:18 They did not give it to Mian sir.
19:20 No other Sadiq and Mian can be.
19:22 But the Sadiq and Mian certificate
19:24 was given. Today's courts
19:26 are saying that
19:28 what you people were saying, what we were saying
19:30 that Sadiq and Mian
19:32 can be no one other than the Prophet (pbuh)
19:34 They were also the courts.
19:36 They were also the judges.
19:38 They are also the courts and he is also a judge.
19:40 Whom will you believe?
19:42 My words were true, right?
19:44 Sir, if it was true, then the decision would have been made.
19:46 But leave this.
19:48 Sir, tell me.
19:50 If this is wrong, then tell me.
19:52 Sir, look. There is no Sadiq and Mian
19:54 other than the Prophet.
19:56 No one has any doubt.
19:58 So why did they give the certificate?
20:00 It was necessary.
20:02 It was given in a particular case.
20:04 Two judges gave the certificate of Sadiq and Mian.
20:06 Shouldn't they have talked at that time?
20:08 Shouldn't they have said
20:10 that according to the need
20:12 no one can be given the certificate of Sadiq and Mian.
20:14 According to the need
20:16 no one can be removed from the Akama.
20:18 This should have been discussed later.
20:20 But even the politicians
20:22 should not have told about their London apartments.
20:24 This is also not possible.
20:26 They should have told
20:28 where they came from, when they bought it,
20:30 who bought it, how did the money go.
20:32 You are making fake documents.
20:34 You are saying
20:36 that I should leave it.
20:38 Everyone should give their own documents.
20:40 No politician
20:42 whether it is Imran Khan
20:44 or Mian Nawaz Sharif,
20:46 everyone should give their own documents.
20:48 It is not possible that
20:50 you say that no one should give their documents
20:52 and everyone should give their documents.
20:54 Kashif Wasi Sahib, you have said
20:56 a very good thing
20:58 that everyone should give their documents.
21:00 You must remember
21:02 that Katri Khat was sent
21:04 and how it was made fun of.
21:06 Why should it not be made fun of?
21:08 Today the documents were accepted.
21:10 Why should it not be made fun of?
21:12 And you must remember
21:14 that Katri Shahzada said
21:16 that I am ready to give my statement
21:18 on the video link.
21:20 At that time, it was not allowed
21:22 through the video link
21:24 and today it was allowed.
21:26 Sir, this is a very long debate.
21:28 I have already discussed this a lot.
21:30 I don't want to go into this debate.
21:32 Tell me, should Pakistan be given a Nawaaz?
21:34 This is your Manchurian statement.
21:36 What should be given to Maryam Nawaz?
21:38 Punjab?
21:40 Tell me, should Pakistan be given a Nawaaz?
21:42 Are we saying wrong?
21:44 No, I am sure that
21:46 Nawaaz is not being given as a name.
21:48 It is being used as a name.
21:50 Like I said, it is being given as a name.
21:52 No, this is your own statement.
21:54 This is your own statement.
21:56 Kashif Abbasi,
21:58 whatever you want to say,
22:00 it is your own statement.
22:02 What can I say?
22:04 I can request you
22:06 that don't you want to give Pakistan a Nawaaz?
22:08 Give Pakistan a Nawaaz.
22:10 We are saying the right thing.
22:12 Instead of saying that there are 7-8 crore people
22:14 who are not able to eat two meals a day.
22:16 Your government
22:18 has been gone for 16 months.
22:20 Ok,
22:22 those who have been gone for 4 years,
22:24 they forget it.
22:26 You are saying that
22:28 you cannot eat two meals a day.
22:30 You are responsible for that.
22:32 One second.
22:34 You put aside 4 years and 16 months.
22:36 In 2017,
22:38 there was no 35 rupees per kilo of flour.
22:40 There was no 110 rupees per kilo of ghee.
22:42 There was no 65 rupees per liter of petrol.
22:44 There was no 100 rupees per dollar.
22:46 There was no 50 rupees per kilo of sugar.
22:48 What can I say to this?
22:50 Sir, let me tell you.
22:52 Mifta Ismail said that you put aside 5 billion dollars
22:54 in a year in the market.
22:56 You put aside 5 billion dollars in a year in the market.
22:58 This is a long argument.
23:00 I don't have time because I have made everything.
23:02 He said that he will finish the NAB.
23:04 I have made everything.
23:06 If he says, I will run it.
23:08 This is an easy argument.
23:10 Your point is right.
23:12 The dollar you left at 105 or 104,
23:14 your government took it to 130.
23:16 The next government of Shahid Khan
23:18 is of Mr. Bansi.
23:20 The next government left it at 172
23:22 and you left it at 330.
23:24 Don't say this.
23:26 We are not making a score.
23:28 Let's move forward.
23:30 I have asked him a few things.
23:32 He said that he will finish the NAB.
23:34 Is it really a plan to finish the NAB?
23:36 I heard this when Imran Khan was in power.
23:38 During Imran Khan's rule,
23:40 all your leadership said
23:42 to finish the NAB.
23:44 Zardari, Bilawal, Shahid Khan,
23:46 everybody used to say this.
23:48 But when you got power in 16 months,
23:50 why didn't you finish the NAB?
23:52 You had majority in the assembly.
23:54 Look, what you are quoting
23:56 is a part of our Mansoor.
23:58 It is a part of Muslim League's Mansoor.
24:00 Is this right?
24:02 Yes, absolutely.
24:04 Was the 16 months of power a national government
24:06 or a Muslim League government?
24:08 It was a Muslim League government
24:10 in which everyone was involved.
24:12 Sir, I am saying that
24:14 if all of you had said to finish the NAB,
24:16 then everybody would have finished it.
24:18 But you thought that
24:20 Imran Khan was not there,
24:22 so you finished it.
24:24 When you are wrong,
24:26 I am asking you
24:28 that when you all said to finish it,
24:30 why didn't you finish it?
24:32 I am not bound to answer everyone.
24:34 I am bound to answer my community.
24:36 You asked
24:38 that when you said to finish
24:40 the NAB in Mansoor,
24:42 why didn't you finish it in 16 months?
24:44 Your question was this.
24:46 I told you that
24:48 the 16 months
24:50 was a national government.
24:52 It could not be decided
24:54 without consultation
24:56 of all the communities.
24:58 If we got the opportunity,
25:00 if the people elected us,
25:02 if the community became a government,
25:04 then we will finish it.
25:06 You have to go to the campaign
25:08 and I have to go to the break.
25:10 One last question.
25:12 It is written that you will not take revenge.
25:14 We have come to do a progressive work.
25:16 What does it mean?
25:18 Is it a random line
25:20 that there will be no political revenge,
25:22 no political prisoners?
25:24 No, no, no. Listen to me.
25:26 It is generally said about us
25:28 and especially
25:30 those whom you are quoting,
25:32 that they will take revenge.
25:34 We are clearly stating that
25:36 we are not coming to take revenge
25:38 from anyone.
25:40 Yes, the law
25:42 which has done something wrong,
25:44 me, you,
25:46 Bilawal,
25:48 Zaid Bakkar,
25:50 who has done something wrong,
25:52 shouldn't the law come against them?
25:54 It should.
25:56 It is simple.
25:58 If someone is accused of corruption,
26:00 then he should take revenge.
26:02 If this happens,
26:04 we will not take revenge.
26:06 I am saying this.
26:08 Is there any other organization
26:10 in Pakistan other than NAB
26:12 which will take revenge?
26:14 Yes, there will be revenge.
26:16 People will be put in jail for corruption.
26:18 You are saying that there will be prisoners,
26:20 but there will be no revenge.
26:22 I am not saying
26:24 what you are saying.
26:26 I am daring to say
26:28 that if the law is of a state,
26:30 then it should be equal for everyone.
26:32 If I am accused of corruption,
26:34 or you are innocent,
26:36 then you should be treated like that.
26:38 Why shouldn't justice be given to the people?
26:40 You are absolutely right.
26:42 I want to take a break.
26:44 I personally think that
26:46 if you,
26:48 because we also do a lot of commentary,
26:50 I think that the law should be improved to this extent.
26:52 Like we saw earlier in your time,
26:54 in the time of Imran Khan,
26:56 the inquiry started and you arrested him.
26:58 You decide who will be arrested and when.
27:00 No one will be arrested
27:02 in the inquiry phase.
27:04 This is what Kashif Abbasi
27:06 is saying.
27:08 We will give the most attention
27:10 to the judicial system.
27:12 We will give the most attention
27:14 to justice
27:16 so that no one
27:18 will think that
27:20 I have not been just.
27:22 We will make this sure,
27:24 God willing.
27:26 We will continue to discuss this.
27:28 Thank you very much for your time.
27:30 But obviously,
27:32 there is a Mansoor of Muslim League Noon.
27:34 Obviously,
27:36 when the government was in power,
27:38 they got 16 months time.
27:40 I am talking about NAAB because
27:42 the People's Party was convinced
27:44 that it should be finished.
27:46 The same thing is being said by the Muslim League Noon
27:48 to finish it. But they didn't.
27:50 Obviously, politics comes in between.
27:52 We will talk about Mansoor.
27:54 We will come back after a break.
27:56 Welcome back, Naseer.
28:00 Salman Akram Raja is with us.
28:02 He is fighting for freedom from Lahore.
28:04 But he is with the support of Tehreek-e-Nizam.
28:06 Raja sahib, Assalam-o-Alaikum.
28:08 Yes, Assalam-o-Alaikum.
28:12 Raja sahib, I would like to know
28:14 one element of your Mansoor.
28:16 After that,
28:18 I would like to know
28:20 where is the politics going?
28:22 You said that you will elect the Prime Minister directly.
28:24 The government will be of four years.
28:26 I think it is the best thing to do.
28:28 No one has patience in Pakistan
28:30 to wait more than four years.
28:32 But people always look for a way
28:34 to remove the Prime Minister.
28:36 If there is a direct elected Prime Minister,
28:38 how will they remove him?
28:40 The first question I would like to ask you is
28:42 that you remember that the 58-2 was over
28:44 and suddenly the roll-out started.
28:46 You know the situation of today.
28:48 Will the Prime Minister be removed
28:50 from the elections?
28:52 It is a matter of details.
28:56 How to remove someone?
28:58 First, let's talk about bringing him.
29:00 I understand one thing in direct elections.
29:02 There are many ways of direct elections.
29:04 You can give different weight
29:06 to the votes of different provinces.
29:08 For example,
29:10 you can give more weight to the vote
29:12 of Balochistan.
29:14 At the moment,
29:16 the Prime Minister of Pakistan
29:18 is not needed in the parliament
29:20 to be elected.
29:22 If you get the votes of Punjab
29:24 and some from Khyber Pakhtunkhwa,
29:26 then you become the Prime Minister
29:28 of the whole country.
29:30 This is a problem in our system.
29:32 It should be necessary
29:34 that the Prime Minister
29:36 is the one who gets support
29:38 from every province.
29:40 It is a matter of details.
29:42 Politicians try to hold a meeting
29:44 in Balochistan
29:46 and make it a public meeting.
29:48 Everyone knows that Punjab is a battleground.
29:50 Punjab has to hold a meeting.
29:52 This is why Punjab is being attacked.
29:54 How is your campaign?
29:56 I was reading your tweet.
29:58 Are you not allowed to campaign?
30:00 I will not say
30:04 that there is no campaign.
30:06 But there is a lot of fear.
30:08 Our workers are being kidnapped.
30:10 We hold meetings
30:12 in the corners of the city.
30:14 The next day we find out
30:16 that they have been kidnapped.
30:18 We go to the police station
30:20 and get them released.
30:22 They are not being held.
30:24 They are being kidnapped.
30:26 Our posters, banners,
30:28 and flags are being taken off
30:30 the government vehicles
30:32 at night.
30:34 We will not run away from this election.
30:36 We are getting the support
30:38 of the people.
30:40 We are getting the support
30:42 of the people.
30:44 We are getting the support
30:46 of the people.
30:48 We are getting the support
30:50 of the people.
30:52 We are getting the support
30:54 of the people.
30:56 We are getting the support
30:58 of the people.
31:00 We are getting the support
31:02 of the people.
31:04 We are getting the support
31:06 of the people.
31:08 We are getting the support
31:10 of the people.
31:12 This election is a stain
31:14 on the country.
31:16 This election is a stain
31:18 on the country.
31:20 This election is a stain
31:22 on the country.
31:24 The country's biggest party
31:26 has been snatched away.
31:28 8th February is also
31:30 an unprecedented date.
31:32 It has nothing to do with the election.
31:34 It is an unprecedented date
31:36 when the country's biggest party
31:38 has been snatched away.
31:40 It is an unprecedented date
31:42 when the country's biggest party
31:44 has been snatched away.
31:46 We are trying to get the support
31:48 of the people.
31:50 We are trying to get the support
31:52 of the people.
31:54 We are trying to get the support
31:56 of the people.
31:58 We are trying to get the support
32:00 of the people.
32:02 We are trying to get the support
32:04 of the people.
32:06 We are trying to get the support
32:08 of the people.
32:10 We are trying to get the support
32:12 of the people.
32:14 We are trying to get the support
32:16 of the people.
32:18 We are trying to get the support
32:20 of the people.
32:22 We are trying to get the support
32:24 of the people.
32:26 We are trying to get the support
32:28 of the people.
32:30 We are trying to get the support
32:32 of the people.
32:34 We are trying to get the support
32:36 of the people.
32:38 We are trying to get the support
32:40 of the people.
32:42 We are trying to get the support
32:44 of the people.
32:46 We are trying to get the support
32:48 of the people.
32:50 We are trying to get the support
32:52 of the people.
32:54 We are trying to get the support
32:56 of the people.
32:58 We are trying to get the support
33:00 of the people.
33:02 We are trying to get the support
33:04 of the people.
33:06 We are trying to get the support
33:08 of the people.
33:10 We are trying to get the support
33:12 of the people.
33:14 We are trying to get the support
33:16 of the people.
33:18 We are trying to get the support
33:20 of the people.
33:22 We are trying to get the support
33:24 of the people.
33:26 We are trying to get the support
33:28 of the people.
33:30 We are trying to get the support
33:32 of the people.
33:34 We are trying to get the support
33:36 of the people.
33:38 The problem is that
33:40 he is trying to solve
33:42 the problem
33:44 on election day.
33:46 He is trying to solve
33:48 the problem on election day.
33:50 He is trying to solve
33:52 the problem on election day.
33:54 He is trying to solve
33:56 the problem on election day.
33:58 He is trying to solve
34:00 the problem on election day.
34:02 He is trying to solve
34:04 the problem on election day.
34:06 He is trying to solve
34:08 the problem on election day.
34:10 He is trying to solve
34:12 the problem on election day.
34:14 He is trying to solve
34:16 the problem on election day.
34:18 He is trying to solve
34:20 the problem on election day.
34:22 He is trying to solve
34:24 the problem on election day.
34:26 He is trying to solve
34:28 the problem on election day.
34:30 He is trying to solve
34:32 the problem on election day.
34:34 He is trying to solve
34:36 the problem on election day.
34:38 He is trying to solve
34:40 the problem on election day.
34:42 He is trying to solve
34:44 the problem on election day.
34:46 He is trying to solve
34:48 the problem on election day.
34:50 He is trying to solve
34:52 the problem on election day.
34:54 He is trying to solve
34:56 the problem on election day.
34:58 He is trying to solve
35:00 the problem on election day.
35:02 He is trying to solve
35:04 the problem on election day.
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38:06 May Allah grant us the permission. Allah Hafiz.

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