Celtics Top Trade Priorities This Season + NBA Execs Scared of C's | How 'Bout Them Celtics

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Sam and Jack are back with another Boston Celtics podcast. In this one, they discuss the Celtics' top trade priorities and potential trade targets this season, NBA executives reportedly being scared of the Celtics, and Derrick White getting All-Star chants in San Antonio. Plus, they talk about Miles McBride, Dejounte Murray, and Donovan Mitchell. Let us know your thoughts, and as always, thanks for listening to How 'Bout Them Celtics!

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0:00 Intro
0:32 Inpopnito winner
1:37 Celtics top trade needs
12:02 Derrick White gets All-Star chants
19:38 NBA execs love the Celtics
27:09 D-White wasn’t testing Wembanyama
33:11 Gordon Hayward on 2019 Celtics
37:44 Email check-in
49:52 Celtics legends book
50:43 Will the Hornets win a game?
52:59 NBA standings check-in
55:06 Knicks extend Miles McBride
56:06 Lakers want Dejounte Murray
01:01:37 Knicks not targeting Donovan Mitchell
01:04:14 The Rat List
01:14:32 Outro

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00:00:00 [MUSIC]
00:00:10 >> And we are back with another episode of How 'Bout Them Celtics.
00:00:13 Sam and I are here recording on Monday, January 1st,
00:00:16 day after the Celtics took down the Spurs.
00:00:18 First day of the new year, first day of 2024.
00:00:21 Technically gonna be our third video though,
00:00:24 cuz we dropped the Spurs recap, then we dropped Talking Cs.
00:00:26 And now we're dropping this on the second, taking a look at everything going on in
00:00:31 the world of the Celtics.
00:00:32 But as usual, before that, let's give away some popcorn today, shall we?
00:00:37 Let's see who's winning some in Pompano today.
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00:01:10 [LAUGH]
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00:01:14 He's been wanting it and now they'll get the chance to test it out,
00:01:18 the mighty God.
00:01:19 There we go.
00:01:21 All right.
00:01:22 Thank you to in Pompano once again.
00:01:24 Again, comment what's popping or
00:01:25 email us saying what's popping at hbtcpod@gmail.com.
00:01:29 And Ramsey's, if we don't respond to your comment,
00:01:31 send us an email at hbtcpod@gmail.com with your name, phone number, and email.
00:01:35 And we'll get you set up with some popcorn.
00:01:37 But without further ado, let's get into some Celtics stuff.
00:01:40 Bleacher Report has been on a heater lately.
00:01:42 Zach Buckley of Bleacher Report put out two different articles talking about
00:01:45 potential Celtics trades.
00:01:47 One naming three targets and one naming three top priorities.
00:01:51 I'll read the priorities and then the targets because shocker,
00:01:55 they're very similar.
00:01:55 Top trade priorities, he said interior insurance, find a backup wing, search for
00:02:01 cheap shooting, and then shocker has three options for trade targets in a separate
00:02:06 article fall perfectly in line with those as Chetty Osmond,
00:02:09 which is the backup wing or shooting.
00:02:11 John Contrar, which is the wing, and then interior insurance, Andre Drummond.
00:02:17 Those are the three options they give.
00:02:18 I stand by if the Celtics trade for Andre Drummond,
00:02:21 it would be the funniest shit of all time because they just sent him to the free
00:02:24 throw line a million times earlier in the season.
00:02:26 Thoughts on those three names and or those three ideas, Sam.
00:02:30 So I legitimately think that the interior insurance is the most important thing they
00:02:41 need to do, if anything, because I think they can find an extra backup wing in
00:02:48 O'Shea Brissett.
00:02:50 We've been talking a lot about him lately because he's been getting a little bit
00:02:52 more burned in recent weeks, which is good.
00:02:55 I like O'Shea Brissett.
00:02:57 I think he brings a good energy to the team.
00:03:00 And I think if he makes threes consistently, he's really going to be able
00:03:04 to be a key contributor in some short minutes for the Celtics because when he
00:03:11 actually plays, he oftentimes has his fingerprints all over some positive
00:03:19 momentum for the Celtics.
00:03:20 So what is he shooting from three this year?
00:03:23 Do I need to have this up?
00:03:25 Whatever it is, it's on a very small sample size.
00:03:28 It was 40 last time I looked at 37.
00:03:30 Five ago.
00:03:31 So it's not bad, but he's probably only taken like 12 threes.
00:03:36 12 16 threes.
00:03:39 Okay.
00:03:40 Yeah, it's kind of close, but the sample size is not there.
00:03:44 The volume is not there.
00:03:45 He's not somebody they necessarily want taking a ton of shots from there right
00:03:48 now, but if he's able to improve, which I'm sure they have him doing work and
00:03:52 I'm sure he's putting in the work, he'll be a great found money guy.
00:03:56 Andre Drummond, greatest rebounder of all time.
00:03:59 Welcome to the club, buddy.
00:04:00 You can come join in and hang out with Luke Cornette in Nimi and lay in wait
00:04:08 for Al Horford slash Porzingis to need the day off.
00:04:11 I mean, we talked about drumming not long ago.
00:04:14 He had a monster game.
00:04:15 He had what 25 rebounds or something like that.
00:04:17 Ten of them were offensive.
00:04:19 Yeah, he had another one too.
00:04:20 He's been on a heater lately in his last five games under Drummond has had
00:04:24 his last 325 16 and 23 rebounds.
00:04:28 So he's since they put him in the starting lineup.
00:04:30 He's been dominant in that area.
00:04:32 Andre Drummond is like a weird guy though, because he's in this place
00:04:37 where we're like, is he washed maybe or is it just he doesn't really fit
00:04:43 in today's NBA where you really want your big guys to be able to do
00:04:47 something outside of the paint just floor.
00:04:50 I think at this point under Drummond would be a slightly better version
00:04:55 of Nami Esqueda.
00:04:56 I think he's a better rebounder.
00:05:00 I think he's probably slower.
00:05:02 I don't think he's going to be very good on the perimeter.
00:05:05 That said neither of the Celtics backup bigs are and so I stand on
00:05:08 if you're going to get a backup big you probably want one that does
00:05:11 something different than the other two not just a slightly better version
00:05:13 because at that point just keep playing with Luke Cornette keep developing
00:05:16 to me a Shkeda and use the spot on something else.
00:05:18 So I don't know how in I am on under Drummond.
00:05:22 He's a fine player.
00:05:22 I think there is a spot for him on a team.
00:05:24 I think he can make an impact.
00:05:25 I think the rebounding is important.
00:05:27 I just think the Celtics already have guys who can do similar things
00:05:29 to what he does.
00:05:30 No, I mean listen, the two of us are not on the Celtics need to do
00:05:36 some about their third string big guys train.
00:05:39 No, because Cornette is mostly been fine and Kate is exciting in the
00:05:43 sense that you feel like he has a little bit of a ceiling to him.
00:05:45 So you want to see him get as much run as he can in timely moments
00:05:49 where if you bring in drum and you're going to kind of cut at least
00:05:52 that part of it off.
00:05:53 If not Cornette entirely who's been earning like a good amount of
00:05:57 minutes like he's been fine.
00:05:59 There's no reason to really just be like screw this guy.
00:06:03 I don't want him out there.
00:06:04 So let's go get Andre Drummond.
00:06:06 Now, Andre Drummond is not somebody that's going to cost a lot of money
00:06:08 or not money a lot of assets probably a second round pick.
00:06:13 He'll fit in the TPE.
00:06:14 Correct?
00:06:14 Because the only makes like 2 million is on a minimum.
00:06:17 Yeah.
00:06:17 Yeah.
00:06:18 So I mean in that sense, he's like a free guy, but is he really free
00:06:22 if you're sacrificing guys you believe in in guys that you want to
00:06:27 see develop?
00:06:28 Maybe not the other two Shea Osmond and John Concar conchar fine.
00:06:35 I know conchar is someone that we've heard the Celtics being linked
00:06:38 to earlier back in November.
00:06:40 Yeah, they like his shooting.
00:06:41 They like his cheap deal and his deal spans over multiple seasons.
00:06:45 So he would be someone that you can not only work with for the
00:06:49 second half of 2023 24 but also builder build on top of keep
00:06:57 developing him or trade him again to have extra salary to throw
00:07:01 around the trades.
00:07:02 Sure.
00:07:03 Fine, whatever.
00:07:04 Yeah, that's the best one for me.
00:07:06 I again, I understand why the bleach reports writing all these
00:07:10 articles and in their defense, they're writing these for every
00:07:12 single team.
00:07:12 So you kind of have to add all the points, but there is no team
00:07:15 that needs anything less than the Celtics need stuff like they
00:07:20 don't need like they're good, right?
00:07:22 They don't need there's no holes on the roster.
00:07:23 Really.
00:07:24 The biggest holes are Luke Cornets not as good as a second string
00:07:28 center.
00:07:28 Yeah, because of the third string center.
00:07:30 He doesn't need to be as good as a second string center.
00:07:31 They don't have enough depth at the wing position.
00:07:33 Well, what about Sam Hauser?
00:07:34 What about Oh shape or set?
00:07:35 He's putting playing well lately like they have quote unquote
00:07:39 holes on the roster.
00:07:40 What the holes on the roster is that they don't go 10 deep.
00:07:43 They only go 90.
00:07:44 So that's not a very big problem to have and even then they
00:07:47 probably do go 10 deep with some guys you could throw in there
00:07:49 at the end.
00:07:49 So I like you said, like I've said, like we've said over and
00:07:54 over Celtics don't really need anything.
00:07:55 We can look at different trade options for at a million different
00:08:00 angles, you know, maybe something pops if a team, you know trades
00:08:04 for somebody then buys them out.
00:08:05 Maybe something pops if an unexpected team decides to rebuild.
00:08:09 But right now there's just not much out there that you'd expect
00:08:12 to become available.
00:08:13 So it just feels like Brad has done a good enough job to give
00:08:17 them great guys to have on the roster.
00:08:19 I think percent is just like the primary sample that he hasn't
00:08:23 seen consistent minutes this year yet.
00:08:25 Anytime he gets the opportunity.
00:08:27 He looks pretty solid.
00:08:29 There are a lot of times where you see him playing.
00:08:31 You're like damn this guy like he's hurting them.
00:08:34 You're just like, oh wow, he got a steal.
00:08:36 Oh, he got an offensive rebound.
00:08:38 Oh big dunk.
00:08:41 Those are good things.
00:08:42 Great.
00:08:43 I'm in favor of O'Shea.
00:08:45 I don't really want to see them bring in a Chetty Osmond or
00:08:48 a conchar to cut off his Avenue to getting extra time either.
00:08:52 It's just I'm excited by the guys on the roster and I know
00:08:56 it's not exciting headline material for us to title the video
00:09:00 as but I think they're worth talking about in or at least at
00:09:05 least the people in the comments being excited about because
00:09:08 they've done just about anything you could ask of them and
00:09:12 they haven't been given aside from Cornette the greatest of
00:09:16 opportunities to showcase what they can do playing in a staggered
00:09:22 situational role where you're only out there every once in
00:09:25 a while is very difficult because you're trying so hard
00:09:27 to prove yourself and to take into account the percentage
00:09:32 shot 37% from three.
00:09:34 I'll be done 16 attempts and also just been a menace all over
00:09:38 the floor is remarkable Cornette being able to walk into the
00:09:44 starting lineup on Friday after not playing in two weeks and
00:09:48 have a 20 point game including a big dunk at the end to help
00:09:51 them go up in the fourth quarter.
00:09:53 That's awesome.
00:09:55 That's impressive.
00:09:56 People should be happy about that.
00:09:58 Kata somebody that is on the younger side at 24 doesn't mean
00:10:03 he's 19 has all this promise about him, but he has strength.
00:10:07 He's a good rebounder.
00:10:09 He can get up in dunk.
00:10:11 He's not the greatest finisher around the rim in terms of
00:10:14 non dunks, but if he's able to improve on that and also move
00:10:17 his feet a bit better, he can be a great big body to bring
00:10:21 off the bench.
00:10:21 This is all things that people should be excited about aside
00:10:25 from trades. Is it cool for us to talk about Andre Drummond?
00:10:27 Yeah, it is.
00:10:29 It's funny.
00:10:29 He's the greatest rebounder ever.
00:10:31 He's put up some crazy stat lines.
00:10:33 He's become a starter in Chicago.
00:10:35 And he fits in the TPE.
00:10:37 I don't hate it.
00:10:39 If they do it, I'm not going to be slamming my desk, but it
00:10:43 none of it feels necessary is the point.
00:10:45 You have the best record in the league.
00:10:47 I understand the insurance thing.
00:10:48 You're like, well, what if poor thing is gets hurt?
00:10:51 What if Horford's age catches up to him?
00:10:53 It's all valid.
00:10:54 And it wouldn't hurt to have somebody maybe maybe in a Blake
00:10:57 Griffin type role where they only get minutes when there's
00:11:01 going to be somebody out of the rotation like last year.
00:11:04 Blake was just hanging out on the bench until Horford needed
00:11:06 a day off.
00:11:07 He wasn't taking minutes away from Cornette in the regular
00:11:09 season.
00:11:09 Yeah, you just don't really need anything that I think that's
00:11:14 the end of the day.
00:11:15 Honestly, if you want to talk about end of the roster final
00:11:18 roster spots, just go get Blake Griffin back.
00:11:21 That would make me happy.
00:11:22 That would be the move that would make me the happiest.
00:11:24 If they just went and said, like, you had your time off
00:11:27 at the family, join us for the playoff run, and then you
00:11:29 can retire a champion.
00:11:30 If we would, that's all I want.
00:11:32 I'll take it.
00:11:32 Get Blake is ring and move on with everything.
00:11:35 I haven't heard anything about Blake Griffin in a while.
00:11:37 I wonder what is actually going on with that because I think
00:11:40 the people here still like him like any time like when we
00:11:43 talk about him, take some of my comment, be like, Blake
00:11:45 Griffin rules because he does.
00:11:47 And I think the way that you mentioned is kind of interesting
00:11:51 like he did get his little break from basketball and he
00:11:54 could very well just kind of show up and be a part of the
00:11:56 ride.
00:11:56 Why not?
00:11:58 That'd be cool.
00:11:59 They all like him.
00:11:59 I'd like to hear speaking of the people liking players.
00:12:05 The Spurs fans in San Antonio were big fans of Derek White
00:12:08 when the Celtics went down there.
00:12:10 Celtics fans were there invested in the cheering too, but
00:12:13 I think some Spurs fans got in on the action.
00:12:15 San Antonio does love Derek White.
00:12:17 You got some all-star chance that what did you see how many
00:12:23 fucking green shirts were there yesterday?
00:12:24 There are a lot that doesn't mean San Antonio doesn't like
00:12:27 Derek White.
00:12:27 They were doing actually just finished the newsdom and then
00:12:30 I'll like start your piece of shit.
00:12:32 You know that I didn't think it was going to go that long.
00:12:36 I'm sorry.
00:12:36 Derek White got all-star chance in San Antonio.
00:12:40 They were chanting whites and all-star drew holiday get into
00:12:43 the action South expense like that after the game Greg Popovich
00:12:46 talked about him said I just couldn't be more proud when he
00:12:50 first came here.
00:12:51 I don't think he believed he belonged to the NBA to watch
00:12:53 from developed through the years starting in the G League
00:12:54 playing with us and then making more steps in Boston has been
00:12:57 a thrill one of the greatest guys ever in his confidence
00:12:59 has exploded.
00:12:59 It's been a process.
00:13:00 He's been in the league seven years, but he's a great story
00:13:02 said he's thrilled for him.
00:13:03 City had a national understanding of the game with his IQ
00:13:06 all that stuff talked about how we got to watch man who
00:13:09 practice hard at managing.
00:13:10 Obli said he was a great example player for Derek and then
00:13:13 Derek in response to it all said I'm just thankful and grateful.
00:13:16 I'm just trying to go out there and help us win.
00:13:17 I think if I was to make an all-star game, it's because
00:13:19 of how much we're winning in the type of team we have.
00:13:21 So I'm thankful to be a part of this.
00:13:23 Team in this organization and the culture that we're building
00:13:25 and me making it or not making it doesn't change the fact
00:13:28 that I'm just thankful to be here.
00:13:29 Yes.
00:13:29 There were a lot of green shirts in San Antonio, but that
00:13:31 doesn't change the fact that the Spurs organization and Spurs
00:13:34 fans everywhere love Derek white and I'll let you get angry
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00:14:17 There's nothing wrong with us talking about this because
00:14:23 this is a legitimate thing.
00:14:25 There's a legitimate push for Derek white to be an all-star.
00:14:28 But I don't really think you were doing this but I've seen
00:14:32 this online to push that it was in I've had people text me
00:14:37 about this to push that it's the the Spurs fans that got this
00:14:41 going is just not true.
00:14:44 It's not when the Derek white is an all-star chance.
00:14:48 We're going around there were booze coming from the home fans
00:14:53 that stuck around to watch their team get killed by 30.
00:14:56 Let's not pretend.
00:14:58 This was a full arena of of eager Spurs fans to watch their
00:15:02 team compete.
00:15:03 This was all the Celtics fans that either traveled to San
00:15:08 Antonio or are local to San Antonio and never get to see
00:15:12 the Celtics.
00:15:13 There's one game a year that the Celtics are there.
00:15:15 They are going to stay till the final buzzer.
00:15:17 You bet your ass.
00:15:18 I saw himelsbach tweet about this yesterday and he said it
00:15:23 was a guy in a Paul pierce jersey that started the chance.
00:15:25 So it was not the Spurs fans chanting for Derek white.
00:15:31 I do understand that Derek white is well liked there as he
00:15:35 should be Derek white a fantastic individual fantastic
00:15:40 basketball player does everything right and he's not a
00:15:42 pain in the ass.
00:15:43 But if I was a Spurs fan, I don't know it depends how they
00:15:48 feel about him, but I'd be kind of heated if everyone was
00:15:51 like getting in on it.
00:15:51 It's like, all right, he didn't leave it wasn't his choice
00:15:55 to leave but like I don't I think that's like it.
00:15:59 There were plenty of Celtics fans there that were the legs
00:16:02 behind all that.
00:16:03 Let's not play make-believe.
00:16:05 Sure.
00:16:07 The point of this segment was supposed to be it was cool
00:16:11 that Derek white got the chance.
00:16:13 I don't know how it turned into something cynical, but I
00:16:15 guess I should have expected it.
00:16:16 Attention.
00:16:18 That's why I can't have it.
00:16:20 I can't have it.
00:16:21 I just can't you're a piece of shit.
00:16:23 You're the worst.
00:16:23 I'm trying to talk about something cool and you just have
00:16:26 to ruin it.
00:16:26 You just had to ruin something.
00:16:28 Why do you I think we owe our listeners a legitimate news
00:16:37 and that's fake fake.
00:16:40 It was not there's a zillion Celtics fans there and they're
00:16:43 pumped that they get to see their team for the one time.
00:16:45 They're going to get to see him all year.
00:16:47 Of course.
00:16:48 It's a Celtics fans doing it as far as Derek white being an
00:16:51 all-star.
00:16:52 I think it's legit.
00:16:52 His numbers are respectable.
00:16:56 They're exceeding any kind of thought that we would have had
00:17:01 of his performance heading into the season.
00:17:03 He's wildly efficient, which is the best thing of all time
00:17:09 efficiency should be like the number one thing that people
00:17:11 look at to see who the best guys in the league are even though
00:17:14 he is playing with the luxury of not having the focus on him
00:17:18 at all times, but it's clear that Popovich and the Spurs love
00:17:22 him when he got traded here.
00:17:24 I believe it was on the reddick pod.
00:17:26 He talked about the exit from San Antonio and how pop kind
00:17:31 of was like listen, like they're going to take good care of
00:17:33 you there.
00:17:34 Things are going to go.
00:17:35 Well, it's a good organization.
00:17:36 Brad's great and the relationship that Derek white had built
00:17:41 with pop was truly a big deal in his career because like it's
00:17:47 talked about here.
00:17:48 He didn't really have the confidence when he came to the
00:17:51 league scout kept talking about yesterday.
00:17:53 It was something that white mentioned when he talked to reddick
00:17:57 they had to beat it into his brain that he was an NBA level
00:18:02 player.
00:18:02 Never mind an all-star just somebody that belonged in the
00:18:05 NBA after going to junior college in Johnson and Wales, which
00:18:10 was the cooking school that drew Carter and scour trying to
00:18:13 figure out which school was show Johnson Wales.
00:18:15 They have one in Rhode Island, but they had one in Colorado
00:18:17 too. And he had just such a unique journey to the NBA.
00:18:20 Of course, he's not going to like believe in himself.
00:18:22 So shout out to the Spurs for helping him realize his talent.
00:18:26 Of course, that's a big deal in his journey to where he is
00:18:29 now is widely impacted by San Antonio to yeah.
00:18:35 I just thought it was cool thing.
00:18:36 Also Spurs good people because they continuously help Celtics
00:18:40 out in trades.
00:18:41 There was a Derek white trade which was like at the time it
00:18:44 felt like his days in San Antonio might be numbered just
00:18:47 because he might have been getting kind of too big for what
00:18:50 they were trying to do.
00:18:51 I think we talked about this like what if he stayed with the
00:18:53 Spurs while his minutes might have taken a hit because they're
00:18:56 trying to develop younger guys.
00:18:57 And then also when Celics want to get rid of Noah Vonley, so
00:19:02 they just dumped him to San Antonio.
00:19:04 Yeah, I forgot about the Noah Vonley thing to be honest.
00:19:08 I didn't bowl bowl end up there to or did he know he went
00:19:10 to Orlando.
00:19:10 But yeah, I just thought it was a cool thing.
00:19:15 I didn't expect it to turn into this whole fucking thing.
00:19:17 I just wanted to talk about Derek white and the quotes and
00:19:19 pop and all that stuff.
00:19:21 But there were a lot of Celtics fans.
00:19:23 They're doing it.
00:19:24 And I mean, it's always just cool to hear about Derek white
00:19:26 and his journey and stuff.
00:19:28 And I know Greg Popovich was a big part of it.
00:19:30 Obviously wrote about Derek white last year and it was cool
00:19:33 to hear sort of some of those things brought up again by pop.
00:19:37 But next thing we have is a bunch of NBA executives who spoke
00:19:42 with Steve bull pet are effectively terrified of the Celtics.
00:19:45 That is basically the storyline here.
00:19:47 If you read all the quotes, that's basically what they say.
00:19:49 There's a lot of quotes here.
00:19:51 I'm going to skim through them really quick just so you get
00:19:53 the gist.
00:19:53 So it's not just me talking for a big Celtics circle jerk
00:19:56 time.
00:19:56 Get ready pretty much.
00:19:58 So the way they came back to run over Sacramento and the
00:20:02 two la teams after screwing up against the Warriors says
00:20:04 a lot before they'd fall into a one-on-one with Tatum and
00:20:07 Brown when things got tough, but you're not seeing that anymore.
00:20:09 Those guys are giving it up more than they should are more
00:20:11 when they should and they've got too many people who can
00:20:14 beat you.
00:20:15 Another exec said Boston's defense has been huge with the
00:20:18 biggest thing on the other end of the floor is how they're
00:20:20 moving the ball isolation.
00:20:21 Basketball has been their default.
00:20:22 If they're not playing well, it's always because of one
00:20:24 reason ball movement.
00:20:25 That was the biggest issue within the coaching staff.
00:20:27 The inability of the team to recognize it consistently the
00:20:29 value of moving the ball and that's what that coaching staff
00:20:31 got all bent out of shape.
00:20:33 But if those guys are buying into what Missoula, excuse me,
00:20:35 Missoula is asking they keep asking and cutting who boy
00:20:38 watch out terrified and don't forget Horford moving to the
00:20:42 bench and giving that group and anchors at another source
00:20:44 or the latter source Brad made some major moves and they're
00:20:48 obviously good ones, but guys still had to buy in I said
00:20:52 listen anybody in the world would trade Rob Williams for
00:20:56 perzingis and Marcus mark for holiday.
00:20:58 That's not even a discussion not even close.
00:20:59 Those are major major upgrades.
00:21:01 The order in which the trade happens here cause some debate
00:21:04 there but the conclusion of a Boston ended up with was a
00:21:06 steal said I'm a Marcus mark.
00:21:08 I love what he brings blah blah blah, etc.
00:21:09 But I don't think there's any doubt that Drew's an upgrade
00:21:11 in terms of team chemistry not saying those guys didn't like
00:21:15 Marcus, but I didn't like it at all.
00:21:16 Excuse me.
00:21:17 I'm not saying that at all, but I've never heard anybody
00:21:19 player coach for an office guy ever have anything negative
00:21:21 to say about your holiday.
00:21:22 Everyone's personality can either put you in a good feel
00:21:25 put you on edge Marcus is intense, but I talked to people
00:21:28 who've coached him and there are times when his personality
00:21:30 becomes an issue to deal with and if you can get some of
00:21:32 the same things without the agit of his irritational exuberance.
00:21:36 I think Drew's a better player and an easier personality
00:21:38 to live with.
00:21:39 Let's see.
00:21:41 What else last quote is he's number three.
00:21:43 He ate one or two.
00:21:44 He ate Batman or Robin.
00:21:45 He's Alfred and the butler and that's okay in that role with
00:21:48 his talent the butler can kill you and he's found a role
00:21:51 with his efficiency.
00:21:53 Basically everyone is like, yeah, I think so.
00:21:56 I'm not sure I put them in here in the order.
00:21:58 So I assume so but yeah, there are.
00:22:00 It's a lot to unpack here.
00:22:02 Basically Celtics nasty teams around the league scared of
00:22:05 the moves they made.
00:22:06 They are very very good and basically saying they're
00:22:11 unstoppable effectively and I'm just double checking.
00:22:14 No that sorry.
00:22:15 The Alfred quote was about Porzingis.
00:22:16 So there you go.
00:22:18 When I first read it.
00:22:19 I kind of thought it was about Porzingis.
00:22:20 It makes sense.
00:22:21 Like Porzingis doesn't need to be the guy with the ball all
00:22:26 the time, but it's great that he can be and him being able
00:22:29 to do that is one of the reasons why that first kind of section
00:22:32 of this is true where they're not going to isolation as much
00:22:35 because they can trust him.
00:22:36 They know they can pass him the ball or post him up and
00:22:39 the result is legally going to be good.
00:22:41 Porzingis is excellent at getting some of the free throw
00:22:43 line.
00:22:43 He was ass in the first quarter against San Antonio in the
00:22:46 first half and he still had like six free throws.
00:22:49 He was able to put pressure on the defense make them follow
00:22:52 him and get easy looks to maybe get himself going.
00:22:54 He didn't really get going but free throws are key to that.
00:22:59 So him being there is just a big difference maker and it's
00:23:04 something we kind of throw back and forth every once in a
00:23:06 while.
00:23:06 We talked about who the most impactful guy is Derek White
00:23:09 is the best net rating, but I feel like when Porzingis is
00:23:12 there just so much different.
00:23:13 I know they've won big games without him being there, but
00:23:16 just the difference he can make in a close game opening
00:23:20 night against the Knicks.
00:23:20 He makes a big three the Pistons game.
00:23:23 He took over down the stretch.
00:23:25 He had a bunch of buckets even though it was the Pistons.
00:23:28 It was still impressive to see him step up in such a big way.
00:23:31 I just love that they went and got him.
00:23:34 I at the time miss I was upset that they got rid of Marcus.
00:23:37 I was always in on the Porzingis part of the trade though,
00:23:39 because when the bragging thing happened, we were amped go
00:23:42 watch the video.
00:23:42 It's always tough to give up Marcus who I don't know.
00:23:47 I'm not saying any of the talent stuff is incorrect.
00:23:52 It's a fact those guys are certainly better players, but
00:23:55 it does suck.
00:23:55 These not a team anymore.
00:23:56 I'll stand by it.
00:23:58 Yeah, no, I mean you wish he was around for this some quotes.
00:24:02 I missed which is the title of the article.
00:24:04 They're almost unstoppable if they play that way when talking
00:24:07 about the ball movement, they rely a lot of three point shot
00:24:10 and the three point shot can go South periodically just talking
00:24:13 about that volatility.
00:24:14 And the last thing was it's funny.
00:24:16 Everybody's looking at Dame going to Milwaukee to play with
00:24:18 the honest and all of a sudden Boston comes under the radar
00:24:20 adding holiday to what they already had in Porzingis.
00:24:23 I think it stunned everybody.
00:24:25 Everybody's paying attention to the bright light with the
00:24:26 all-star and Boston swooped in and won the offseason guys around
00:24:29 the league were pissed that they were able to pull that off.
00:24:31 She's just super funny to hear.
00:24:34 Isn't it funny though?
00:24:35 Because when the Dame thing happened we came on here and we
00:24:39 were like kind of like drew holiday.
00:24:44 Are they going to do it?
00:24:45 He was in a thumbnail.
00:24:46 He was in a thumbnail before he got traded here and it happened
00:24:49 so fast.
00:24:50 It was like instant.
00:24:52 It was like two days later.
00:24:53 I was driving to the gym and I had to turn around.
00:24:55 I was like video time baby.
00:24:57 We're going what a sequence that was.
00:25:01 I know when we were doing it was like do they really want to
00:25:04 give up Rob like Rob's to be the guy you don't you really want
00:25:07 to give up Rob you kind of string yourself that thin.
00:25:10 It's the same conversations everyone has now with the do you
00:25:13 believe in Cornette?
00:25:14 Well looks like we do believe in him and giving up Rob is not
00:25:19 an issue.
00:25:19 Yeah, September 28th.
00:25:22 We published a meal or traders with bucks and the drew holiday
00:25:25 Celtics trade idea October 1st.
00:25:27 Can the morning of on October 1st Celtics quote appeal to
00:25:31 drew holiday as trade destination and then later that day on
00:25:34 the first breaking news Celtics trade for true.
00:25:36 It was one to bang bang within a span of three days.
00:25:40 He was on the Celtics.
00:25:41 I feel like I don't know why it just it felt like not we knew
00:25:44 but it felt like everyone is kind of like this.
00:25:47 This is going to happen.
00:25:48 It was like the one time the Facebook Photoshop's are making
00:25:51 a little bit of sense.
00:25:52 I was like, yeah, like money kind of works like fit works.
00:25:57 He's not going to stay in Portland like there definitely are
00:26:00 more dominoes to fall and then like you said bang and ESPN or
00:26:04 whoever put it out.
00:26:05 Woj, they had the Photoshop ready.
00:26:08 It was just a picture him with that that Celtics Jersey and
00:26:11 hey, I'm not saying that we called the two biggest trades of
00:26:15 the offseason, but we did kind of call the two biggest Celtics
00:26:18 trades of the offseason.
00:26:19 Like we were on Porzingis.
00:26:21 You are you are on Porzingis in particular before it happened.
00:26:24 We had that on lock.
00:26:26 We were just kind of like poking around with the holiday thing.
00:26:29 Like what if huh?
00:26:30 That would be sick.
00:26:31 Porzingis was on a thumbnail before he got traded to the
00:26:35 Celtics.
00:26:36 We were there.
00:26:38 We were ready.
00:26:39 We were talking about it and then it happened.
00:26:41 So pat us on the back a little bit good for us.
00:26:44 Anyways, Celtics basically the whole part of that the whole
00:26:48 point of that segment was teams around the league are not happy
00:26:52 with the Celtics are scared of them and you can see why when
00:26:55 you watch the last stretch of four games of them just stomping
00:26:59 three quality teams and then the Spurs which the Spurs of the
00:27:02 Spurs are six games.
00:27:03 I forgot about the Pistons Raptors in between but some stomps
00:27:07 of good teams in there.
00:27:09 Next thing we got is more Derek White from San Antonio.
00:27:12 Now, let me pull up the clip here.
00:27:16 Derek White was talking about a clip of him and Victor
00:27:21 women Yama Menyama got the ball was out in transition and was
00:27:26 going for a super cool dunk and Derek White as he usually does
00:27:30 was ready to go for a chase down block.
00:27:32 Now, they're quite a six foot four six foot five Victor
00:27:36 women Yama is seven foot four seven foot five.
00:27:37 And so as clutch points put it kindly here Derek White made
00:27:42 a wise business decision.
00:27:44 And if you're watching on YouTube, you can see Victor women
00:27:46 Yama gather the ball at the three-point line take two steps
00:27:50 and Derek White just duck out of the way and decide, you know
00:27:52 what?
00:27:52 Maybe I'm not going to try for this block.
00:27:54 Yeah, like I don't know how often all you in the comments
00:27:58 are playing basketball.
00:28:00 But when I played today my gather starts at like the elbow
00:28:05 of that.
00:28:06 Yep, sometimes a little closer.
00:28:08 Yeah, if it's a good stretch if I get some good like momentum
00:28:11 and then I can maybe gather there do a little two-step or
00:28:14 a euro or something, but it's usually inside the three-throw
00:28:18 line might be the second hash mark actually.
00:28:20 Now, I'm looking at it quote from Derek White when asked about
00:28:25 it. He goes, I'm not an idiot.
00:28:27 He said about trying to go for it.
00:28:30 I was hoping you would take another dribble and then I could
00:28:32 try to you know, do the strip or the steel but he picked it
00:28:34 up and I never saw it again.
00:28:35 So I was just trying to get out of the way.
00:28:37 That was crazy, which is just an all-time quote.
00:28:39 You can look at him.
00:28:40 Look at Derek White look for one minute.
00:28:43 I want to put it down.
00:28:44 Yeah, look at him.
00:28:45 He's like, okay, he's gonna put the ball down then he just
00:28:46 realizes that he's not putting that ball down.
00:28:48 He's like, all right, I'm done.
00:28:50 It was crazy to see kind of how when bees presence had an
00:28:55 effect on the way the Celtics were doing things.
00:28:57 He's effectively somebody who can defend two guys at once,
00:29:00 especially if you put him on the weak side.
00:29:02 He's leading the leading blocks.
00:29:04 He's insane.
00:29:06 He's crazy.
00:29:08 This year my boy Ray who his grandmother watches the the
00:29:12 pregame streams every single night.
00:29:13 So shout out to Graham.
00:29:14 Shut up.
00:29:15 Graham immediately texted right first thing.
00:29:17 She texted him.
00:29:18 Holy fuck.
00:29:19 This guy is tall.
00:29:20 Yeah, we were watching with I was watching at the New Year's
00:29:25 Eve thing with some of my friends and they are they watch
00:29:28 the Celtics like most of the games another one watches a few
00:29:31 games sprinkled in whatever and they were just looking at
00:29:33 him. They're like, what the fuck is it?
00:29:36 Holy shit.
00:29:37 What would be there's like what the hell is funny.
00:29:40 He started off like oh of three like he missed like an easy
00:29:43 paint shot over Porzingis miss some threes.
00:29:45 I was like they drive to this guy first.
00:29:46 Oh of three bomb.
00:29:48 They made like four in a row.
00:29:50 Yeah, and then they started falling.
00:29:51 He's averaging 1.3 steals and 3.1 blocks a game as a rookie.
00:29:57 Like I'm not saying this guy's gonna average five blocks,
00:29:59 but this guy might average five blocks came down to 3.1
00:30:03 steals to 1.3 steals.
00:30:05 3.1 blocks dyslexic with my hearing.
00:30:08 Yeah.
00:30:09 I mean this guy's insane is his splits aren't great.
00:30:11 But once they get a good team around him and once he develops
00:30:14 a little bit more puts a little muscle on like you can see
00:30:18 so usually when rookies are struggling you might say, ah,
00:30:21 this guy be a boss, you know, is he is going to be a different
00:30:23 player we expected you can see what one B is going to be
00:30:26 and it's terrifying like you can see what is happening.
00:30:29 It's just the team's not very good right now.
00:30:30 So it is crazy how bad the Spurs are like we've got to
00:30:35 see some bad teams over the last week now after I mean
00:30:39 the whole thing has been so have had the hardest strength
00:30:41 of schedule and they have the best record but we've actually
00:30:44 got to see some as games in a row.
00:30:46 Yeah, the difference is crazy.
00:30:48 Some of these guys are just out there running.
00:30:51 Yeah, this person I forget.
00:30:53 I mean that was the the Mamu Kalishvili airball was the
00:30:56 worst shot I've ever seen in an NBA game.
00:30:58 That was I need to pull it up.
00:31:00 That was the crazy.
00:31:01 Yeah, pull it up.
00:31:02 Pull it up.
00:31:03 We were watching.
00:31:04 I said this on the postgame last night.
00:31:06 We were watching and my buddy took the over on the game
00:31:09 and he just was just like head in hands.
00:31:12 He was like, holy shit.
00:31:13 We started crying laughing at that shot.
00:31:16 It is funny.
00:31:17 It was nuts.
00:31:18 I need to find it.
00:31:19 Let's see.
00:31:20 I think it was a second to last three in the night.
00:31:22 No, it was his third to last three.
00:31:24 You this dude was Chuck in threes at the end of the game.
00:31:26 How many he took three in the fourth quarter his hero.
00:31:31 Jason Tatum was on the other bench.
00:31:33 So he had to impress.
00:31:35 You muted.
00:31:37 I'm not seeing that you're good.
00:31:41 Now.
00:31:41 I can't find it.
00:31:43 It's not I went to the box score to try to find it.
00:31:46 Well now I'm annoyed.
00:31:47 I want to take longer.
00:31:49 Oh, maybe it was a two.
00:31:50 How did it do that was in the corner?
00:31:53 I'm not going to spend.
00:31:54 Yeah, I think it was.
00:31:56 I think it was a two.
00:31:57 We got to find it.
00:31:58 We promised the people.
00:31:59 I know.
00:31:59 I know.
00:32:00 This shot looked like it was an NFL kicker taking a field goal
00:32:03 when it was real windy.
00:32:05 It was in the fourth quarter, right?
00:32:07 It was in the fourth quarter.
00:32:08 No, I think it's glitched because I see you've missed three
00:32:12 point shot, but it's a lot of it in the layup.
00:32:14 And so they mess.
00:32:14 Oh, no, they they wiped it from the internet because they said
00:32:18 we do not have this out there showing that this is someone
00:32:22 that plays in the NBA.
00:32:23 Yeah, I wonder if they'll have the back-to-back Randall airball
00:32:26 threes in there from today.
00:32:28 Not sure.
00:32:30 Yeah, no, I unfortunately can't find it.
00:32:32 They're just they're wiping it.
00:32:35 I will say it is funny because I like Mamu.
00:32:39 He's cool when he was coming out of the draft.
00:32:41 I tweeted about him.
00:32:42 I said, I really like what he brings.
00:32:43 He's a good ball handler.
00:32:44 I think it was agent.
00:32:45 Whatever.
00:32:47 No, he DM to me.
00:32:48 Oh, he DM Jew.
00:32:50 Yeah, he said he was like time to prove people wrong.
00:32:53 My guy.
00:32:53 He's a nice like we had a nice conversation or whatever, but
00:32:55 it was like a small conversation, but it was it was funny to
00:32:58 see you should find a tweet of I'm sure somebody tweeted the
00:33:01 airball and be like we proven him wrong or what I can't find
00:33:05 it.
00:33:05 I just I'm trying to find send it to him.
00:33:07 No, maybe not.
00:33:08 Maybe not.
00:33:09 Anyways, next thing we got Gordon Hayward recently talked
00:33:13 about the 2019 Celtics on an episode of Paul George's podcast
00:33:17 podcast P and he basically said I might actually listen quote
00:33:22 we had all had too many agendas and the agenda to win the
00:33:25 whole thing wasn't the main one which anybody who watched
00:33:29 that team like you could see it on the court, but I don't
00:33:33 know I it's gear set this to me on Twitter.
00:33:36 That was the first like thing.
00:33:38 I saw it from and he was like, I hope Gordon comes back.
00:33:41 Eventually.
00:33:42 I think he gets a bad rep and I kind of agree.
00:33:43 I don't think he got really a fair shake in Boston.
00:33:45 I think he was pretty good when he was healthy.
00:33:47 It's just the teams underperformed.
00:33:49 And so he was always kind of the scapegoat but it did suck
00:33:53 that he was hurt a lot of the time.
00:33:55 He missed the birth of a child for the Celtics.
00:33:59 Yes.
00:33:59 How can anyone be like this guy didn't care?
00:34:02 He missed he missed a child birth to play in the Easter
00:34:07 Conference finals.
00:34:08 What how how I never understood that like it wasn't great
00:34:14 that he left because there was a lot of like if he sticks
00:34:17 around it's gonna be nice to have that salary.
00:34:19 It'll have like a new like a slot in the cap slot, whatever
00:34:23 and it sucked.
00:34:24 They went to Charlotte.
00:34:25 It kind of hurt them in the 21 season.
00:34:26 They definitely missed the Gordon Hayward piece.
00:34:28 They never had anybody that could really fill it but at the
00:34:31 same time like what do you want out of him?
00:34:34 He had a gruesome injury in his debut.
00:34:37 Obviously the whole season was chalked from there.
00:34:40 Never played again.
00:34:41 Second season.
00:34:41 He's coming back into this shit show of a team the 2019
00:34:44 team with Kyrie run around and in his defense.
00:34:47 He played 72 games that season.
00:34:49 He was healthy.
00:34:51 So he was healthy and I think the one time he wasn't healthy
00:34:54 was LaMarcus Aldridge hit him with a screen.
00:34:56 He like hurt his hand or something.
00:34:57 Maybe that was a year after could be wrong.
00:34:59 Was that Kemba?
00:35:00 I thought that was Kemba.
00:35:01 No, no, no that it might it was both.
00:35:03 It might have been both.
00:35:04 I think it was the year after Kemba got hurt but Hayward
00:35:06 hurt himself hitting Aldridge the year after he only played
00:35:09 52 games.
00:35:10 So that would make sense.
00:35:11 But I mean the man missed a childbirth dude, like anybody
00:35:16 that's like Hayward was, you know, this or that or he he
00:35:20 was a bad Celtic like yeah, he wasn't the same guy after
00:35:24 he got hurt and it sucked.
00:35:25 He chose to come here which rules I always appreciate any
00:35:28 player that decides to come to the Celtics.
00:35:30 I think it's a really really great thing.
00:35:32 And so Al Horford needs a shout out because he was kind
00:35:34 of the first one to do it in this generation of players.
00:35:36 But anytime someone's like, yes, I would like to play for
00:35:39 the Celtics.
00:35:40 That's a big thing in the NBA for a while.
00:35:43 The Celtics weren't getting free agents.
00:35:45 They just started over the last decade and Hayward coming
00:35:49 here was a big part of that.
00:35:51 That team was supposed to really be competitive.
00:35:54 I know he talked about with Paul George like they always
00:35:56 think about like what could have been and he kind of said
00:35:58 like this year's team feels like a almost closure type thing
00:36:04 with that where it's like, okay.
00:36:05 Yes.
00:36:06 This is probably what we could have had.
00:36:07 Yeah, this is what it should have been.
00:36:09 Yeah, it didn't work out.
00:36:10 Unfortunately, what in the agenda thing is probably very
00:36:14 true.
00:36:14 Like his agenda was probably trying to make sure he was
00:36:17 right and he wanted to make sure he got his looks and then
00:36:19 you have Taylor Brown who are coming off this big time playoff
00:36:22 run where they're both the stars and they're ready to prove
00:36:25 themselves and Kyrie's back and Kyrie's trying to get a good
00:36:30 season in before he's a free agent.
00:36:31 There's all that stuff going on.
00:36:33 Horford's also got the free agents thing and then of course
00:36:36 Terry Rozier big part of the playoff run.
00:36:38 He has to come off the bench.
00:36:40 Yeah, just a weird thing.
00:36:42 I think that's the difference between this team and that
00:36:47 team is that there is more homegrown stuff going on here
00:36:51 than that time.
00:36:52 Yes, Taylor Brown are still the same centerpieces and Rozier
00:36:55 was a key part of that.
00:36:57 But now the stars are homegrown.
00:36:59 The top guys are homegrown and I think that goes a long way
00:37:02 because they are someone or faces that the other guys look
00:37:06 to in terms of leadership and they have this Celtic way about
00:37:12 them.
00:37:12 Maybe I agree with Horford who technically is a transplant,
00:37:16 but he has played more years in a Celtics uniform than KG.
00:37:20 And then the rest like I don't know a lot of shake up this
00:37:26 year, but the guys they added are mature and the newer faces
00:37:30 on that Celtic team were not as mature.
00:37:32 Brown Tatum evidently so evidently so Mark.
00:37:38 Yeah, Gordon just said the the part everybody knew out loud,
00:37:43 but all right, let's go to the email now.
00:37:45 Let's see what people had to say in the email here.
00:37:48 Do the email?
00:37:49 I'll do the background.
00:37:50 Let's show you.
00:37:50 Yes, sir.
00:37:51 I did not all you.
00:37:53 All right first email we got from RJ.
00:37:55 This is from the 30th.
00:37:57 What's popping?
00:37:57 It's hard being the man.
00:37:59 Happy Saturday guys thinking about the last two games and
00:38:01 Pistons Raptors led me to a new article on Celtics blog and
00:38:04 what production and what it means to a production to keep
00:38:08 playing without your leads.
00:38:09 It's a pretty short post.
00:38:12 So we'll read it.
00:38:13 I just had to check both pistons and Raptors.
00:38:15 Games are great for highlighting some things you didn't notice
00:38:17 until you are until they aren't there against Detroit.
00:38:20 The absent of JB from the game showed his importance in the
00:38:22 defensive rotations as it took 24 minutes to figure out how
00:38:24 to debate defend Kate Cunningham effectively Chris stops may
00:38:27 have missed his carpool buddy in the first two quarters as
00:38:29 well. Only scoring six points before intermission.
00:38:31 Everyone plays a part against Toronto.
00:38:33 We're all expecting Derek white to step up a table and
00:38:35 present gets out and while I got there eventually, it's hard
00:38:37 to be the man, especially when the man 1.0 isn't on the floor
00:38:39 attracting attention away from you oddly enough.
00:38:42 I think the best player to help out prison gets white and
00:38:44 the rest excuse me get better at being in the spotlight is
00:38:47 Luke Cornette.
00:38:48 Luke does Luke things regardless of who's on the floor or
00:38:50 whether he gets a ball and that's an important lesson when
00:38:51 it's your turn to lead.
00:38:52 You don't have things you aren't comfortable with just stay
00:38:54 focused on things on doing things that keep you and your
00:38:57 teammates in their comfort zones.
00:38:58 I'll become curious to see who incorporates that approach
00:39:01 to their game first.
00:39:02 I will say I think this is part of what we talked about on
00:39:04 talking C's where it's tough to be the guy and I think Tatum
00:39:08 doesn't get enough help from the rest of the team in that
00:39:11 sense, but yeah, I mean sure I like all the points.
00:39:14 I mean when you say like that Tatum doesn't get enough help.
00:39:17 I somebody can't on it like Twitter would be like, what
00:39:20 do you mean Tatum doesn't have enough help?
00:39:22 They don't get him enough looks that he's too self-reliant
00:39:26 and I don't know.
00:39:27 They got to utilize him a little different like they got
00:39:29 to kind of utilize a lot of these guys equally where they're
00:39:32 just getting looks as a product of ball movement.
00:39:35 Yeah, I agree and I think they did better in that Spurs
00:39:37 game.
00:39:38 You saw a lot more movement with Tatum at the recipient
00:39:40 is great evening and Tatum starts the Spurs game is awesome.
00:39:43 I didn't get to see the third quarter missed a lot of it
00:39:45 when I got back.
00:39:46 I saw his five or ten from three.
00:39:48 So I'd imagine there were some super cool dribbles somewhere
00:39:51 in there, but when the game was closed in the first half
00:39:54 looks like he was playing for real.
00:39:56 So good for him and good for the staff for figuring out
00:39:59 how to get him looks without him having to do it all.
00:40:01 Agree good game next one.
00:40:04 What's popping three things for the green Cornet haters
00:40:07 from RJ morning guys.
00:40:09 Thank you for the kind thoughts about the emails.
00:40:11 I keep writing them because you to do such enjoyable work
00:40:13 now that I've been kind.
00:40:14 Let me unload for a minute to everyone who's having a hissy
00:40:17 that Luke did well at his spot start three things first.
00:40:20 Who would you rather see at the end of the Celtics bench
00:40:22 Luke or the NASA Santa to go both?
00:40:24 That's what I thought shut up second to whoever it is
00:40:27 that bitched about Luke not being able to do it in the playoffs
00:40:29 go search YouTube for Leon Poe 2008 watch it and shut up.
00:40:32 Finally, you're really going to complain about Luke doing
00:40:35 smart things and going 9 of 11 the night after Killian Hayes
00:40:38 conducted a dumbass a clinic in dumbass basketball.
00:40:41 Have you ever entertained the thought of paying attention
00:40:43 during a basketball game instead of just scrolling for the
00:40:45 Pat score or Red Sox trader?
00:40:47 We just don't answer that just shut up like that.
00:40:49 The C's don't need Luke to be the second coming of Dave
00:40:52 Cowens. They need him to be ready hit his marks and not
00:40:54 suck what she does.
00:40:55 Plus he seems like a pretty good human being rattles to
00:40:58 everyone who can't appreciate the good things like having
00:41:00 both Luke and Nimi be well in the new year.
00:41:01 RJ.
00:41:02 I mean, yes, great RJ man.
00:41:04 Yes, we've said this a million times.
00:41:06 I couldn't agree more RJ.
00:41:07 Absolutely, and I don't get anybody being mad that like
00:41:10 corner had a good game.
00:41:11 Like what is bad about that?
00:41:13 It was crazy.
00:41:14 One thing that could be bad about corn having a people
00:41:16 focused on his poor defensive rotations and defensive play
00:41:21 in the fourth quarter, but like let's not act like the
00:41:23 Celtics have much of another choice.
00:41:25 Like who else did you want to see them play in that spot?
00:41:27 They played with the guys they had because they were missing
00:41:29 half their fucking starting lineup.
00:41:30 Come on, we do it.
00:41:33 But now yeah, I agree.
00:41:34 Leave Luke alone.
00:41:35 He's a third string big.
00:41:36 He does his job.
00:41:37 What's popping the ball dropped on San Antonio.
00:41:40 As I write this, it is less than an hour from 2024 on the
00:41:44 East Coast in three hours, 40 minutes here in San Francisco.
00:41:47 And no, that's not a typo in the subject line.
00:41:49 The New Year's ball dropped early and it fell squarely on
00:41:52 this first tonight part from everyone in green having a great
00:41:55 game.
00:41:55 It was interesting to see how the Celtics defused one B's
00:41:57 defensive contributions in the first half with Porzingis out
00:42:00 away from the basket.
00:42:01 When Boniambo is not clogging the middle making it a lot
00:42:03 easier for the C's to get points in the paint.
00:42:05 Tatum and Cornette each had more blocks than he did to each
00:42:07 to one B's one as and as much fun as it was watching Derek
00:42:11 White slam dunk.
00:42:11 I think every Celtics fans held their breath for a moment
00:42:14 when we all thought Derek might just block one Boniambo from
00:42:16 behind for a split second.
00:42:18 Well, fun game.
00:42:19 Nice to see us beat up on a lottery team to close out 2023
00:42:22 20 games over 500.
00:42:23 Of course, today's real star was the main Celtics flannel
00:42:26 pajama uniforms modeled here by Rob Edwards.
00:42:29 We looked at this happy New Year to all 2000 subscribers
00:42:32 on HBTC.
00:42:33 Be well, RJ.
00:42:34 I still like these jerseys a lot.
00:42:36 I think they're sick.
00:42:36 Yeah, I mean I'd be kind of heated if the Celtics wore
00:42:39 them, but I really care what they do up in Maine.
00:42:41 So go for it.
00:42:42 Sure.
00:42:42 All right.
00:42:44 Next email from Gerald Colston.
00:42:46 What's popping Jalen Brown's game?
00:42:48 What's up boys?
00:42:49 Hopefully everything's good since the start of the season.
00:42:51 I believe JB has been the most improved all around.
00:42:53 I mean when you look at his game the mid-range and aggressive
00:42:55 finishes are impressive.
00:42:56 I approach every game as if he's going to put someone on
00:42:58 a poster.
00:42:59 The way he approaches the game doesn't feel forced or rushed
00:43:03 anymore.
00:43:04 Do you believe he's been the most improved or do you think
00:43:05 it's someone else?
00:43:06 I think it's Jalen Brown.
00:43:07 I think he's taking the most.
00:43:08 You don't think it's Derek White?
00:43:09 I thought you might think it's Derek White.
00:43:11 I think Derek White is doing all the things that he showed
00:43:14 us he can do in the regular season playoffs last year.
00:43:16 Just doing them more.
00:43:17 I think Jalen Brown has made fundamental improvements to
00:43:19 his game.
00:43:20 So Jalen to me is taking the biggest in-season step because
00:43:24 to start the year.
00:43:24 He didn't look great.
00:43:25 There is the weird like I don't know what I'm going to do
00:43:28 anymore.
00:43:28 Now that our team's much better and we have a lot of guys
00:43:30 that can compete and do good things, but when Porzingis went
00:43:37 out in particular, I think he really stepped it up.
00:43:39 I mean he had that really great game against Milwaukee.
00:43:42 Porzingis was in that one.
00:43:43 They had some super cool linkups.
00:43:45 Some of my favorite plays of the season so far, but I did
00:43:48 the article kind of like the duality of Jalen Brown where
00:43:51 like he's really really great against Milwaukee.
00:43:52 Then he was terrible against Orlando in the second half and
00:43:55 was a almost symbol of how they got beat down.
00:43:58 Since that Orlando game, he has been absolutely nails.
00:44:02 He has been efficient.
00:44:04 He's been careful.
00:44:05 He's been decisive.
00:44:07 Everything he's done has been positive.
00:44:10 It feels like there aren't a lot of games where you see him
00:44:12 out there and you're like, maybe he just needs to realize
00:44:15 it's not his night.
00:44:16 That just doesn't happen.
00:44:17 He's been on.
00:44:18 He's done a great job of getting out and getting going
00:44:20 early in the games.
00:44:21 The first quarters from him have been unreal and I think
00:44:24 that's a really great place for him on this team.
00:44:26 It's a great part for him to be a tone setter because Tatum
00:44:30 is not a guy that gets going early.
00:44:32 He's not traditionally.
00:44:34 It's been Brown.
00:44:35 It's very rare to see a big Tatum first quarter.
00:44:38 Those are the days where Tatum is going to have like a
00:44:40 50 ball.
00:44:40 If he's giving it to you in the first quarter, watch out
00:44:42 as for Brown.
00:44:44 He's very very important to the team as a whole getting
00:44:48 started getting a lead, whatever you keeping him in a game
00:44:50 if the other team's playing well, so shout out to Jalen.
00:44:54 I think we can all have a little bit more faith in him
00:44:56 and he had a good playoff last year until the Heat series.
00:44:59 He was good.
00:44:59 The numbers were good.
00:45:01 The Heat series was bad.
00:45:02 Very bad bad enough to erase your memory.
00:45:04 Yeah, Jalen big improvements this year.
00:45:07 The playmaking has been huge.
00:45:08 I mean, we've talked about it a bunch but yeah, I think
00:45:10 he's my most improved next thing.
00:45:12 We got New Year same winning teams from clay.
00:45:15 Shout out clay.
00:45:15 Happy New Year fellas with 2023 behind us.
00:45:19 I'd like you guys.
00:45:20 I'd like to I assume this means thank you guys for the
00:45:23 quality content you put out of the daily basis for us.
00:45:26 These junkies who very ferociously consume all content.
00:45:30 That's great.
00:45:30 Got you.
00:45:31 Thank you.
00:45:31 I got to say 26 and 6 feels pretty good.
00:45:34 Nice to see the guys do what they're supposed to against
00:45:35 a team like San Antonio and absolutely trounce them.
00:45:38 I do feel for the Spurs especially Trey Jones.
00:45:40 What cruel irony to be named Trey not be able to hit
00:45:42 one to save your life.
00:45:43 Yeesh fun debate question for you guys.
00:45:46 The same Spurs team we beat last night except with D.
00:45:48 White is their starting point guard.
00:45:49 How many games do they win?
00:45:50 Lastly, you gentlemen mentioned brackets upcoming on your
00:45:53 list show.
00:45:54 I would like to throw my hat in the ring a bracket of
00:45:56 the best boss of little guys Pritchard versus Flutie Pedroia
00:45:59 versus Barrows.
00:46:00 Maybe some Danny Woodhead action could be fun.
00:46:02 Throw it in there.
00:46:03 Thanks again.
00:46:04 Fellas.
00:46:04 Keep up the good work your homie clay.
00:46:05 Shout out clay on the brackets remind us in March and
00:46:09 we'll do it because it's March Madness.
00:46:10 So we do a bracket every pod, but we'll keep this in
00:46:13 mind.
00:46:13 I think that'd be fun as far as the D white with the
00:46:15 San Antonio Spurs.
00:46:16 I do think they win a decent amount more games.
00:46:19 They desperately need a presence at the point guard spot
00:46:23 who can do everything D white can do.
00:46:24 What are they right now?
00:46:26 What's the Spurs record?
00:46:27 They are five and whatever five and 27.
00:46:31 I'd say maybe give him five more wins make them 10 and
00:46:34 whatever maybe 12 and whatever.
00:46:36 I don't know like Derek White's awesome.
00:46:38 I don't know how significantly he makes them like improves
00:46:40 them.
00:46:41 I do think Wemby would be better by default.
00:46:44 So I I think I'd probably put them on the trying to fight
00:46:48 for the play in race rather than worst human League personally.
00:46:53 It is kind of funny that they're still terrible like they
00:46:55 didn't really go out and do a whole lot.
00:46:57 But after the draft everyone was like watch out for the
00:47:00 Spurs.
00:47:01 They started the season.
00:47:04 They were three and two and everyone's like, oh, wait a
00:47:05 second.
00:47:06 And then they just lost like 20 games.
00:47:07 Very tough.
00:47:10 All right, last email.
00:47:12 Gerald Colston says what's popping comparison to JT when
00:47:15 we look at somebody like JT is skills are very impressive.
00:47:18 Everyone loves to compare him to maybe Danny Granger or
00:47:20 Kobe.
00:47:21 However, I believe a skill set is more like Carmelo Anthony
00:47:23 their numbers are very similar.
00:47:25 Their numbers are very similar for regular season stats.
00:47:28 I believe they also have the mentality of I'm going to
00:47:30 get mine now and they shouldn't in some instances.
00:47:32 No diss to JT at all.
00:47:33 I believe he's trying to translate his game to being a
00:47:35 better offensive facilitator.
00:47:36 This article you could see the numbers are somewhat similar
00:47:39 appreciate you boys.
00:47:39 Look at best season stats slash regular season stats.
00:47:42 Let's see where we look in here regular season stats.
00:47:47 Listen, I understand the comparison.
00:47:51 Tatum is a better player than Mello ever was and I stand
00:47:53 on that.
00:47:54 He's a million times better as a defender.
00:47:56 He's better as a playmaker.
00:47:58 He's a better offensive hub and for all the faults of his
00:48:00 threes.
00:48:01 I don't think it's as bad as it ever was with Mello.
00:48:04 Maybe Mello was a better isolation score.
00:48:06 Jason Tatum doesn't need to be that and he's a better defender
00:48:08 and he's a better playmaker than Mello ever was.
00:48:12 I think Tatum is better than Carmelo Anthony ever was right
00:48:15 now.
00:48:16 So I think if you went right now.
00:48:18 Took Mello's peak his best season and you put it up against
00:48:23 Tatum's best season or even like this year the difference in
00:48:28 assists would be crazy.
00:48:29 The reason why Tatum's career assists is low 3.4.
00:48:33 So you spent a couple years not being a hub not being somebody
00:48:38 that they go to for huge parts of their offenses usage rate
00:48:43 was not as high.
00:48:44 Now that he's become a focal point of Boston's game plan.
00:48:47 The ball is zipping around and he does have a part in it.
00:48:51 It's not perfect, but he has a good job making reads.
00:48:54 He's good on the drive has his head on a swivel for kicks
00:48:57 when he plays out of the post.
00:48:58 He's great at drawing a double and then hitting the open man.
00:49:01 These are things I don't really think you would see a lot
00:49:04 from Mello Mello averaged over four assists once Jason Tatum
00:49:09 has averaged over four assists for the past four seasons.
00:49:12 So yeah, there's your answer.
00:49:14 But I mean, it's interesting.
00:49:16 I get it.
00:49:17 Jason Tatum has won more playoff games in Mello already.
00:49:20 I would assume right?
00:49:21 I don't think that's is that true?
00:49:23 I don't actually really hurt yourself.
00:49:24 They're really going on a limb.
00:49:26 Well, I don't know.
00:49:28 I think it's closer than you might realize.
00:49:30 It's not close.
00:49:31 Let me take a look playoff games has Jason Tatum one Tatum
00:49:35 has won 52 playoff games.
00:49:38 Carmelo has won 28 playoff games.
00:49:43 You're right.
00:49:43 Not close.
00:49:44 So there's that.
00:49:46 All right, let's head on over to the NBA section.
00:49:49 Actually.
00:49:50 Sorry before we do that.
00:49:52 Let's play a little game very briefly from this book Celtics
00:49:57 Legends alphabet.
00:49:58 Let's see if Sam can guess the second letter.
00:50:00 It's bird back to South next real quick.
00:50:02 See for bird be wrong.
00:50:08 Really?
00:50:09 Yeah, incorrect.
00:50:10 Try again.
00:50:10 Is it Brad?
00:50:14 Wrong.
00:50:15 Bill Russell.
00:50:16 Yeah, as Mr.
00:50:18 Bill Russell is the answer.
00:50:20 There's Bill on the B for you.
00:50:21 Very cool.
00:50:22 Draw drawing.
00:50:23 Excuse me.
00:50:24 B is Phil Barus.
00:50:25 So the greatest winning winner in the NBA history Russell
00:50:28 amassed 11 NBA championships during his 13 year Celtics
00:50:30 career.
00:50:31 He's second all time in that NBA career rebounds a five-time
00:50:34 MVP 12 time All-Star and considered the greatest defensive
00:50:37 player in the history of the sport.
00:50:38 A true Celtics legend P is for Bill Russell.
00:50:41 There we go.
00:50:42 All right, and now let's move to the NBA part of the show
00:50:46 with a new segment that we are going to call did the Hornets
00:50:50 win again Hornets win a game.
00:50:53 We've moved on for the Pistons.
00:50:55 The Pistons have escaped and unfortunately the Hornets are
00:50:58 not a focus points 10 losses in a row for the Hornets.
00:51:02 Let's see.
00:51:03 Do they have a chance to break it soon?
00:51:05 Let me take a look who they're playing.
00:51:07 They're playing the Nuggets tonight.
00:51:08 So probably going to make it 11 past that after the Nuggets.
00:51:14 They got Sacramento than Chicago twice.
00:51:16 So those Bulls games are probably going to be their best
00:51:18 chance, but the Bulls have been good.
00:51:20 So tough sliding please.
00:51:24 Best serious Sacramento.
00:51:25 For the for the good of the NBA there should always be a 20
00:51:31 plus losing streak to keep your eyes on.
00:51:33 Yep.
00:51:34 I agree.
00:51:35 Who have the Hornets lost to in their recent games to has
00:51:37 it been anybody like any telling losses sons Lakers Clippers
00:51:41 Nuggets Pacers lost to the Raptors by 15 is pretty bad.
00:51:45 You can't lose to the Raptors that said their last win was
00:51:49 also over the Raptors.
00:51:50 So that's also pretty tough.
00:51:51 They beat the Celtics to they have beaten the Celtics, but
00:51:55 I also don't know if their streak has too much of a chance
00:52:00 of getting up to what Detroit's was or he goes to it just
00:52:04 because Lamello is going to be back at some time.
00:52:07 Is he I thought he's out for a while on these out for the
00:52:10 season.
00:52:11 Lamella ball injury.
00:52:13 Let me double check.
00:52:14 Maybe you're right.
00:52:14 Lamella tonight is he still out?
00:52:20 He's missed the last 15 games, but he's getting closer to
00:52:22 a return.
00:52:23 You see, right?
00:52:23 He'll be back eventually.
00:52:24 Yeah, like they're actually like not terrible with Lamella
00:52:28 before he got hurt.
00:52:29 They were kind of like lurking around the play in like they
00:52:31 had a chance of being there.
00:52:33 Now, I think it's dead.
00:52:34 But they yeah, I don't think they're going to lose like
00:52:39 Pistons level amount of games.
00:52:40 I don't know if it gets to 20.
00:52:42 The Hornets this season are 5 and 10 with Lamello in the
00:52:47 sense.
00:52:47 He's been out.
00:52:48 They are where's the NBA standings 5 and 10 with Lamello
00:52:52 without Lamello.
00:52:53 They are 2 and 13.
00:52:55 So pretty big difference there.
00:52:58 But yeah, all right.
00:53:00 Let's look at the rest of the NBA standings.
00:53:01 We won't spend the whole time on the Hornets, but that has
00:53:04 officially replaced our Pistons for the segment of have they
00:53:08 won yet NBA standings taking a look around real quick Celtics
00:53:12 longest win streak in the NBA currently at six games.
00:53:16 I don't think anybody else is at five.
00:53:19 I think the Celtics are leading by a decent amount.
00:53:24 The closest thing to the Celtics is four with Thunder.
00:53:29 Nuggets just lost the last game.
00:53:30 It's true.
00:53:32 One of the win streaks has to go down.
00:53:34 Sons of one three in a row.
00:53:35 They're figuring it out.
00:53:36 The Lakers Rockets and Warriors have all lost a lot of the
00:53:41 recent games.
00:53:42 They're not doing too too hot right now.
00:53:43 Lakers three and seven in the last 10.
00:53:46 That's heartbreaking.
00:53:47 Not good.
00:53:48 Warriors five and five.
00:53:50 Warriors five and five.
00:53:52 Mavs four and six slowing down a little bit as well in the
00:53:55 east of Magic and Pacers both four and six in the last 10.
00:53:58 The Nets are two and eight in their last 10.
00:54:00 They're falling down the standings.
00:54:01 Knicks won their first game with OG and Anovi today.
00:54:04 They have now won one in a row and they're in the eighth
00:54:06 seed. The Hawks are four and six in the last 10.
00:54:09 The Bulls are six and four in their last 10.
00:54:11 They're figuring it out.
00:54:12 And then the Raptors and the Wizards are both pretty tragic
00:54:15 if you ask me.
00:54:16 So there's that the box just kind of won't fuck off.
00:54:20 Will they know they're good?
00:54:23 They're real good.
00:54:23 Just one nine and one in their last 10.
00:54:25 So this just can't get any real separation two games above
00:54:29 the box.
00:54:29 Not terrible.
00:54:30 Even Philly.
00:54:30 They're starting to get a bit of a lead on four games ahead
00:54:32 of them.
00:54:33 Yeah, Philly dealt with some injuries in there.
00:54:37 It's pretty clear Celtics buck sixers than everyone else
00:54:40 right now.
00:54:40 Even the Knicks are only one and a half games out of the
00:54:42 four seed this clump of heat Magic Cavs Pacers Knicks are
00:54:46 pretty tight knit and then the Nets and the Bulls have the
00:54:49 next spot with the Hawks.
00:54:51 I guess sneaking around in there too, but past that it is
00:54:54 pretty bad magic rough four and six and last time.
00:54:58 Yeah, they've been slowing down.
00:55:00 They've been slowing down significantly that two game series
00:55:03 aides the Celtics really hit them like a truck.
00:55:05 But speaking of the Knicks as we were talking about them
00:55:08 did just make that trade for OJ and Anobi and they also
00:55:10 just extended miles McBride.
00:55:12 I think I mentioned when they made the tree we were talking
00:55:14 about it.
00:55:14 They did just win that he could potentially step up and
00:55:18 play a bigger role for them.
00:55:19 And it sounds like that's the plan three years 13 million
00:55:22 dollars.
00:55:22 All of it is guaranteed good deal for miles McBride good
00:55:27 defender.
00:55:27 He played today didn't play a ton but he's just you know,
00:55:32 a guy who can give you quality minutes at the point guard
00:55:33 spot defends.
00:55:35 Well, so Tibbs is going to like him no heart harm in giving
00:55:39 him a cheap contract like that.
00:55:41 If it's somebody you trust there is absolutely no harm in
00:55:44 it, especially the new CBA.
00:55:46 What's that roughly 4.3 million a year like that's a pretty
00:55:50 solid deal to have somebody that's a part of your rotation
00:55:53 on and it's tradable.
00:55:54 Yeah, especially if he starts playing well like teams be
00:55:57 like wait, they you could fit the tp.
00:55:59 Oh, it'd be sick.
00:56:00 Exactly right percent.
00:56:02 So good for them.
00:56:03 I guess sure.
00:56:04 There you go.
00:56:06 Lakers.
00:56:07 Meanwhile are potentially eyeing to Jaunte Murray should
00:56:11 he become available according to shams of the athletic
00:56:14 Lakers are a team are quote a team to keep an eye on as
00:56:18 a potential landing spot for Murray should he get dealt
00:56:20 and will make a lot of sense for Los Angeles.
00:56:22 Another report from Yovan Buha the Athletic saying maybe
00:56:25 you go for Royce O'Neill and Dorian Fannie Smith.
00:56:27 Those are two guys like us have an interest in however,
00:56:30 I think DeJounte Murray is the far more interesting guy
00:56:32 mostly because he'd be a guy a lot of people are going
00:56:35 after if it's the Lakers sure it makes sense.
00:56:38 But my question to you is what other teams do you think
00:56:40 could potentially look to trade for John T Murray if the
00:56:42 Hawks decide to trade this is where it gets fun, huh?
00:56:44 Yes, it does.
00:56:47 I think Brooklyn is still a great landing spot for him.
00:56:50 If they decide to keep things together, Brooklyn's not
00:56:52 bad. Forgive me if I am like missing like the most obvious
00:57:00 person ever. Orlando could kind of use a point guard, right?
00:57:04 They could use a point guard.
00:57:05 Yeah. Yeah, they've got faults, but you could I think
00:57:08 if I'm Orlando, I might start knocking on the door for
00:57:11 DeJounte Murray.
00:57:12 I would like it makes sense.
00:57:13 Yeah, they're kind of on the on the doorstep of being
00:57:16 competitive. They've had a rough stretch since the hot
00:57:18 start and they could certainly use a little bit of somebody
00:57:22 that's been around the block on their roster because they
00:57:25 don't have a ton of that.
00:57:26 I think he would be a fun fit.
00:57:29 It would be somebody I root for.
00:57:30 Let's see who else is there.
00:57:32 You want to know what would be annoying but very very makes
00:57:35 a lot of sense.
00:57:36 Who I am me Miami.
00:57:40 I mean, there is a better guy to play off the ball.
00:57:45 You know, I mean like he's not like Trey young where you'd
00:57:47 be putting Murray next to another guard.
00:57:49 That's going to need the exactly you put him at the point
00:57:51 guard you.
00:57:52 Excuse me.
00:57:53 You trade Lowry and or Duncan Robinson with picks and maybe
00:57:56 you throw in yo bitch or Highsmith or something and you
00:58:01 go out and get Murray and you run DeJounte Murray Tyler
00:58:04 hero.
00:58:05 Jaime Hawkins Jimmy Butler Pam in a bio.
00:58:07 That's kind of gross.
00:58:09 That's that's kind of a very good line up, especially
00:58:11 considering Miami.
00:58:12 You trained at the Robinson right now for DeJounte Murray.
00:58:15 Yeah.
00:58:16 I mean John DeMaria shooting a career-high 38% from three
00:58:21 on six attempts a night.
00:58:22 So yeah, you are I am.
00:58:25 They don't know.
00:58:26 I'm going to Robinson's been a big big help for them this
00:58:29 year.
00:58:29 He's been great but playing like himself is huge.
00:58:32 Yeah, Miami be annoying.
00:58:34 I'm just trying to flip through the rest of the teams.
00:58:36 Milwaukee.
00:58:37 No, why if Dane?
00:58:41 Yeah, I think you play both get some size some defense in
00:58:44 there.
00:58:45 It's a little bit Atlanta.
00:58:46 I think it's different.
00:58:50 They are different.
00:58:50 I think it's a little different but we try to have having
00:58:53 their ball in their hands and enough Dame or Dame but Dame
00:58:58 but you get both I think and it's not like James not used
00:59:01 to playing with another guy who needs the ball.
00:59:02 Sometimes he's played with CJ for years.
00:59:04 I don't think it's perfect but I think it's it's not terrible.
00:59:07 You know, I changed my mind.
00:59:09 I have a new perfect spot and it's Minnesota.
00:59:12 That'd be electric in 2k save.
00:59:15 I did that trade good good trade.
00:59:18 It would be tough to make the money work.
00:59:22 You'd have to throw in a few different salaries.
00:59:24 You could probably get there with Kyle Anderson shake Milton
00:59:27 and the gila Alexander Walker.
00:59:29 I think would get you there.
00:59:30 But like you get that done.
00:59:33 The issue is you don't really have the pics because you don't
00:59:37 have any pics.
00:59:38 So that might be where excuse me where deal gets halted.
00:59:42 Because Timberwolves don't even pick the trade and you can
00:59:46 trade some swaps but not much going on there.
00:59:49 No.
00:59:51 I don't even remember.
00:59:55 I was going to say, oh, there's I don't think the salary
00:59:57 works and there's no way it would happen.
01:00:00 Phoenix should just trade Bradley Beal for John T.
01:00:05 Murray.
01:00:05 There was no salary cap.
01:00:08 Well, you could trade Beal for just on T.
01:00:11 Murray and like Deandre Hunter and then give up pics as well
01:00:17 or something.
01:00:17 Do that.
01:00:18 I've done.
01:00:18 But yeah, the issue is they don't have one.
01:00:21 X.
01:00:21 Yeah, it literally zero picks that it can be trade.
01:00:24 I don't know.
01:00:28 I would have said the Clippers before the James Harden trade.
01:00:31 It doesn't really make sense now.
01:00:33 I mean, you could still do it, but you don't need it.
01:00:37 I wouldn't hate it for the Paisley's kind of an awkward fit
01:00:39 because Halbert needs the ball in his hands, but like they
01:00:42 did defense in a bad bad way, but still not great next anymore.
01:00:46 Like point cards just not the pelicans.
01:00:51 You move.
01:00:52 Tell him this is what I could see you move CJ back off the
01:00:55 ball and then you bring in John T.
01:00:58 Murray.
01:00:58 I just wonder what you'd give up for it.
01:01:01 Like what would they want?
01:01:02 You probably have to get out there Jones at very least.
01:01:05 Well, no, I wouldn't do that.
01:01:07 Kings know the math.
01:01:11 No Lakers.
01:01:12 We just talked about it.
01:01:13 If Red Van Fleet wasn't there, it's excuse me.
01:01:16 Say the Rockets were good.
01:01:17 Wonder if the jazz would do it.
01:01:20 You get a real point card in there next to Laurie.
01:01:22 Take a flip some of the pics.
01:01:26 You've got get a real player.
01:01:28 I don't hate it for the jazz, but I don't know.
01:01:31 I think it makes most sense for the heat as annoying as it
01:01:33 would be.
01:01:36 Anyways, all right last NBA thing.
01:01:39 We've got is the Knicks are not targeting Donovan Mitchell.
01:01:42 I repeat.
01:01:43 They're not Sam.
01:01:44 I swear.
01:01:44 They're not targeting to Mitchell Mark Stein Steinlein reported
01:01:49 that the Knicks quote do not intend to Mount an all-out
01:01:51 pursuit of Mitchell ahead of the trade deadline this year.
01:01:53 Also the Cavaliers for that matter signaled to rival teams
01:01:56 throughout December that they aren't prepared to entertain
01:01:58 Mitchell overtures.
01:01:59 Anyways, so you asked me what the point of this reporting
01:02:02 is. I don't know.
01:02:05 I don't know what the purpose of all this is.
01:02:07 I just saw it and what means the cat.
01:02:09 I think the cast part of this is more valuable.
01:02:11 It's like like I guess they really think he's in a stick
01:02:14 around or opt-in next summer.
01:02:15 Huh?
01:02:15 Do you think so?
01:02:16 No, you think he's gone?
01:02:21 Yeah, I just don't think he wants to be there.
01:02:24 Do you know what is the og at an ob trade?
01:02:29 If you think about it from that perspective, you're like,
01:02:31 okay, so they're trying to make a team to bring down a
01:02:33 Mitchell in a free agency.
01:02:35 Right?
01:02:37 Yeah, I mean it makes sense.
01:02:38 Jalen Brunson Donovan Mitchell og at an ob is disgusting.
01:02:42 That's a great top three.
01:02:43 That's a title top three.
01:02:45 I think certainly up there there.
01:02:48 They're in the realm of have a chance.
01:02:49 It's still not competing with the Celtics and Bucks, but
01:02:52 it is puts them in that.
01:02:53 Like I think they're competitive.
01:02:55 I just think I almost think that's like a weird like almost
01:03:00 Ajante Murray fit of like, oh no, I know Donovan Mitchell
01:03:03 is not a point guard type, but he does still like have the
01:03:07 ball a good amount and so is Darius Garland.
01:03:10 That's part of the reason like the cabs haven't been like
01:03:12 spectacular particularly in playoffs like so I understand
01:03:17 where there's an extra another smaller guard and I understand
01:03:20 but there's too many.
01:03:21 There's too many talented guards for you to avoid some of
01:03:23 those fits around the league.
01:03:24 Like there you're not going to not pick up like you're going
01:03:26 to go into a point where everybody has a really great guy
01:03:29 who needs the ball and then what does not Tamar is a free
01:03:31 agent and no one wants him because it wouldn't work.
01:03:33 You just kind of have to figure it out.
01:03:35 I know but like almost every team in the league has a ball
01:03:39 dominant guard right now.
01:03:40 There's like two and Donovan Mitchell's not signed with
01:03:42 them. I just like this is a trade.
01:03:46 This is not what's a trade.
01:03:49 I'm talking about their setting up to try to sign.
01:03:52 Oh to try and court him in free agency.
01:03:54 Yes.
01:03:55 Okay, that's a little different.
01:03:57 Sorry.
01:03:59 I mean, I still stand by it.
01:04:02 I think it's like kind of a weird fit.
01:04:03 I don't know if you're going to get the most out of it, but
01:04:05 if you're not like giving anybody up to get him like sure
01:04:08 you can try.
01:04:09 Yeah, you try to clear the space now and then you go after
01:04:11 him. But all right, that was about it.
01:04:14 Let's get into the rat list here saying would you like to
01:04:16 kick us off?
01:04:17 Oh, would I rat list is people that say Happy New Year's
01:04:23 instead of New Year?
01:04:24 Lots of messages going around or posts on social where people
01:04:29 are saying Happy New Year's with an S.
01:04:32 I hate to break it to you.
01:04:34 But actually what people should be saying is Happy New Year
01:04:37 because the New Year has arrived.
01:04:39 It is happy.
01:04:39 I know.
01:04:39 I know the thought is what we're talking about New Year's
01:04:42 Eve or New Year's Day, but like yeah, but still no, no, just
01:04:47 not correct.
01:04:47 Happy New Year.
01:04:48 Correct.
01:04:49 Yes, rat lists all the slow drivers that I ran into today
01:04:55 was very annoying.
01:04:56 Wasn't a big fan.
01:04:57 I came home today after being on Boston yesterday.
01:05:01 And I hit the highway and everyone decided to go under
01:05:04 the speed limit and I was not too pleased.
01:05:06 Very simple rat list.
01:05:07 That's all there is to it.
01:05:09 But it just really pissed me off and I wasn't a big fan also.
01:05:11 Well, actually I'll save that one.
01:05:13 I'll keep it separate rat list.
01:05:14 But yeah, the people driving home today were annoying out
01:05:18 on traffic out on people pick a lane.
01:05:21 Don't don't make a wall.
01:05:22 The people who make a wall of the worst like go around
01:05:25 wall.
01:05:25 People are terrible.
01:05:26 Yeah, bad rat list.
01:05:30 My car.
01:05:31 So my my car radio does this thing where it doesn't always
01:05:35 turn off.
01:05:36 Sure when I turn my car off.
01:05:38 So like the radio will stay on.
01:05:40 Yeah, and what happens if I go away?
01:05:42 So I went away this week and I forgot to manually shut it
01:05:46 off before I left is it'll drain my battery battery.
01:05:50 But yesterday I went I got up when I went to drive to the
01:05:53 gym and I got my car turns.
01:05:56 I am like, okay, I'm a gas.
01:05:57 I go to the gas station.
01:05:58 I shut off at the pump pump my car and then all of a sudden
01:06:02 it's not turning on.
01:06:03 So I had this whole ordeal like had to jump it.
01:06:06 My daddy used to work with cars.
01:06:07 So like we have a little bit of a discussion of what's going
01:06:11 on and what he thinks and things like that.
01:06:14 Anyway, he takes it because we finally get to restart.
01:06:18 We swap cars.
01:06:19 I go about my day.
01:06:20 I come home apparently like it's been working.
01:06:23 Okay, like he took it out.
01:06:24 So I bring it with me last night.
01:06:27 Go Providence, you know, like drive around a little bit wake
01:06:32 up this morning.
01:06:32 I go to move my car from where it was parked around to the
01:06:37 front of the building works.
01:06:40 Fine.
01:06:40 Shut it off.
01:06:41 And I'm like, oh wait, no, I didn't turn off my radio.
01:06:43 I don't want to risk this and then I go to turn it on.
01:06:45 So I turn off the radio.
01:06:46 It will not start but then then 10 minutes later decides it
01:06:50 wants to start.
01:06:51 Yeah, but how old your car?
01:06:53 1994.
01:06:55 It's time.
01:06:56 It's it's it's going to be time soon.
01:06:59 I like my car man.
01:07:01 It is.
01:07:01 I don't want to waste money on a car.
01:07:03 If I already have a car.
01:07:04 It is 30 years old.
01:07:07 I'm not saying you need to do it now.
01:07:08 I'm not saying years old.
01:07:09 I haven't had this whole time.
01:07:11 We got had like no miles on.
01:07:12 I'm saying the car is 30 years old.
01:07:14 Yeah, I know.
01:07:15 I'm not saying it needs to happen but the car is telling
01:07:19 giving you signs that it is almost time.
01:07:23 I am I use to drive.
01:07:25 Yeah, I know I used to drive the oldest car I had was an
01:07:28 oh nine and I drove that for a few years past that.
01:07:31 I just well, it wasn't a flex.
01:07:34 I was in my car.
01:07:35 I is nothing wrong with the car.
01:07:36 I've been in your car.
01:07:36 It's a fine car.
01:07:37 It's just getting to time is all I'm saying ratless.
01:07:41 These two people that were walking in front of us last
01:07:42 night me and Danny were walking from the tea stop.
01:07:46 We went to the liquor store.
01:07:47 Then we're going to the apartment that we were going
01:07:48 to hang out at walking whatever these two people in front
01:07:52 of us were walking very slow.
01:07:53 And so we were just you know, we were no we were we were
01:07:59 effectively like about to go around them or whatever and
01:08:02 then they just stopped they stopped.
01:08:04 Let's know ready.
01:08:05 It gets worse.
01:08:06 They stopped move to the side.
01:08:09 Let us walk past them and then kept walking behind us.
01:08:12 They just they let us pass them but they did it in like
01:08:15 the most awkward way.
01:08:16 They could possibly let us pass them just like go single
01:08:20 file keep walking and let us go or just like scooch over
01:08:23 to the side.
01:08:23 Don't dead.
01:08:24 Stop go to the side stare at us while we pass you and
01:08:28 then walk behind us.
01:08:29 You're the assholes here.
01:08:30 Not us.
01:08:31 Have mace for that.
01:08:32 Like what are we doing?
01:08:33 Mace the worst just the worst that pissed me off yesterday.
01:08:37 It was weird.
01:08:38 So ratless this pizza place.
01:08:42 I went to yesterday.
01:08:43 Yeah, I like this place.
01:08:45 I went I got a sandwich.
01:08:48 I love the sandwich.
01:08:49 But anyways, I call ahead.
01:08:51 I order for pickup.
01:08:52 So I go in to pick it up and everybody in their mother
01:08:57 decided they would like some pizza tonight.
01:08:59 So the line is out the door the problem and the reason why
01:09:02 this is on the rat list is because they do not have two
01:09:05 separate lines for pickup in ordering.
01:09:08 So I'm fucking standing there as I was going to say Joey,
01:09:13 but then I don't want to be Joey spatula will say Jimmy
01:09:17 is sitting there trying to say which fucking type of pizza
01:09:20 he would like the one with the vegetables or pepperoni's
01:09:24 like only what's that one?
01:09:25 Oh, what's that one?
01:09:26 And I've already called in put in my order.
01:09:28 All I need to do is pay and leave.
01:09:30 They need to have separate lines for that.
01:09:33 It was a big waste of time.
01:09:34 There was no order.
01:09:35 They eventually were like who's next and like nobody said
01:09:39 anything and I clearly was not next but I was like, oh,
01:09:41 yeah, like I'm just picking up and they were like, okay,
01:09:43 and then I got out of there but there were like mad people
01:09:47 like these people like see in front of us like I don't know.
01:09:49 Yeah, I don't know man.
01:09:51 Like they should have this is where you order.
01:09:53 This is where you pick up.
01:09:54 I went in like there's two doors.
01:09:57 There's like a there's like a entrance way and on one side.
01:10:00 There's a door on the other side.
01:10:01 There's a door and on the left side.
01:10:02 That's where all the people were lined up out of I went
01:10:04 in the right side because I was like, oh, there's no way
01:10:06 all these people are waiting for pickup and there were
01:10:09 some people waiting for pickup.
01:10:10 So very poor very very poor from the pizza establishment.
01:10:14 Yeah, like the food being great.
01:10:15 That's bad.
01:10:17 Rattless this dude at McDonald's.
01:10:19 So we were hungry last night.
01:10:20 So we went to McDonald's and you'll know this type of person
01:10:24 as soon as I say it and they're the worst just full blaring
01:10:28 speaker in the backpack, dude.
01:10:29 No one needs to listen to your music.
01:10:32 No, no, it like you know, one needs to listen to what you're
01:10:34 listening to.
01:10:34 He wasn't even playing.
01:10:35 He wasn't even playing music.
01:10:36 He's just playing beats that he clearly made and they were
01:10:39 bad.
01:10:40 That's why he was doing it.
01:10:41 I know but then he just started playing real music.
01:10:43 So like he was just like he can see it on a playlist.
01:10:46 It was bad like dude, you're in a tiny McDonald's with
01:10:49 hella people waiting.
01:10:50 They have music playing in the back.
01:10:52 We can hear your music.
01:10:54 My ears are bleeding.
01:10:55 No like turn it off.
01:10:57 So if you go into a building and they're the worst they're
01:11:01 bad on the street.
01:11:01 They're bad in the T stations, but in a confined space in
01:11:04 a building fuck you turn it off.
01:11:07 It's so bad.
01:11:08 That's that's on that list is my work fantasy football league.
01:11:12 My work fantasy football league.
01:11:14 I'm in the championship.
01:11:16 Sure.
01:11:16 And as anybody that may like football knows we just passed
01:11:23 week 17.
01:11:24 There's one week remaining in the season.
01:11:26 Now anybody that is into fantasy football would know typically
01:11:32 you don't have any fantasy implications on the last week.
01:11:36 You know why people get benched because they sit people.
01:11:39 Yep.
01:11:40 My work League the championship game is two weeks long.
01:11:45 So my 23 point lead is meaningless right now and I have
01:11:51 to hope I pick the right guys who aren't going to sit on Sunday.
01:11:55 This is a catastrophe and I may lose $200 because of this who
01:12:01 you play in just somebody that we would know.
01:12:02 Yeah, even if I gave you the name what is that going to do?
01:12:07 I know I wasn't sure.
01:12:08 I mean, I know some people you work with that's why I asked.
01:12:13 Oh, I'm thinking it like other people from your people from
01:12:17 your old work is oh, you know what?
01:12:19 Rat list my friends.
01:12:22 Hmm.
01:12:23 This is an ongoing rat list.
01:12:25 This is the one thing in my life that truly gets under my skin
01:12:30 which sounds really funny coming from me, but a lot of it's
01:12:33 just jokes.
01:12:34 My friends who I've been friends with for like 10 12 years
01:12:38 now have a fantasy football league and they refuse to let
01:12:43 me join.
01:12:44 They refuse to let me join.
01:12:49 There have been times over the years.
01:12:52 Now.
01:12:53 I have not always wanted to be a part of it.
01:12:55 It's not me saying like fuck you.
01:12:57 I'm not going to join your league.
01:12:58 It's just been like I'm busy or like I think I was playing
01:13:01 high school basketball one time.
01:13:03 I wasn't really sure sure sure ball like there have been
01:13:05 implications for that but there have been times I've wanted
01:13:08 to join and I've made it known that I wanted to join and I
01:13:11 understand there are only a certain amount of spots but there
01:13:15 have been times that my friends have gone outside of the group
01:13:18 to find other people to put in over me into this day.
01:13:23 It is one of the things in my life that I just detest who
01:13:28 is is like Joe and Frank in them.
01:13:29 It's them but like it's other people to like it apparently
01:13:32 like Frank has been like, you'll let him play and people
01:13:34 like no because I don't like football.
01:13:38 I don't like care for football, but I like fantasy football.
01:13:41 Yeah, I put together a fantasy league this year that Jack
01:13:44 me I like playing it.
01:13:46 Yeah, that's a very funny.
01:13:50 I will say we have a fantasy league that we've had since
01:13:53 high school like one of those like a long standing ones
01:13:55 whatever and we have like added people to it.
01:13:58 We have let people yeah, but you don't want to get too many
01:14:02 teams like I do get that part too.
01:14:04 We got 12.
01:14:04 God opens up.
01:14:06 Yeah, don't go above me and get somebody that like we don't
01:14:10 even talk to somebody's not even the group chat.
01:14:13 That's bad.
01:14:14 That's ass.
01:14:15 That's a tough look.
01:14:16 That's tough one.
01:14:17 Unbelievable.
01:14:19 You are getting kind of screwed.
01:14:22 No, I'm yeah, I'm getting fucked.
01:14:25 That is very funny.
01:14:27 I don't think I have any other rattlers.
01:14:29 I think I'm good.
01:14:30 Yeah, believe it.
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01:14:39 We hit that.
01:14:39 That is so cool.
01:14:40 You know, I can't wait for someone in the comments.
01:14:43 Stop swearing.
01:14:44 Fuck you.
01:14:46 Fuck you.
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01:15:40 We do on top of these full-length pods.
01:15:42 We do game recaps on days.
01:15:43 We don't record a pod, but there are things to talk about.
01:15:46 We also do talk and sees Bobby Kravitzky one came out yesterday
01:15:49 as you're hearing this.
01:15:50 We also do little trade breakdown idea videos and also film
01:15:54 breakdowns every once in a while.
01:15:56 So make sure you hit the bell so you don't miss any of those.
01:15:58 Also 30 minutes before every game or live here and on Facebook
01:16:02 and Twitter, but if you hit the bell, you won't miss the ones
01:16:04 on YouTube.
01:16:05 Who doesn't want that?
01:16:06 Like Jack said on the streaming platform Spotify Apple, make
01:16:10 sure you follow us leave a five-star review say something nice
01:16:13 about the pod.
01:16:14 If you follow our full-length audio versions of the pod and
01:16:17 game recaps will be right to your inbox.
01:16:21 So you won't have to search for him at all.
01:16:22 If you want to reach out to us and be on the email list, you
01:16:26 can reach out to HBTC pod at gmail.com.
01:16:30 You see RJ do it.
01:16:31 You seen Gerald do it a couple times and also clay was it on
01:16:35 the fun today.
01:16:35 So you want to make sure you join and let us know what you're
01:16:39 talking about and thinking about these games.
01:16:41 You got something to say just a little teaser here.
01:16:43 I'm just gonna put it on the screen might might might come
01:16:45 back soon.
01:16:46 All I'm saying playback just saying we could say follows on
01:16:50 play again.
01:16:50 Do follow some playback wink wink.
01:16:52 Wait, what did you say?
01:16:53 I said it could be coming back soon.
01:16:56 We said we could be coming back on playback soon.
01:16:58 That's all I said.
01:16:59 So we can be coming back to the games.
01:17:01 Oh, we did.
01:17:02 We do have we will have access to watch the games pass the
01:17:05 block and we will have 20 passes to give out to people watching
01:17:08 but it's all nice viewers.
01:17:09 So it's capped but that is I believe that has been added.
01:17:12 I've gotten in contact with thanks for the good news.
01:17:14 Yeah, so we've been trying right?
01:17:18 We want to be I like to play back.
01:17:19 It just we got clapped but we'll be back.
01:17:21 All right.
01:17:22 Well follow us on socials as well as playback at how about
01:17:25 them sees that's Twitter Instagram.
01:17:27 Tick tock.
01:17:28 Facebook is just name of the podcast.
01:17:29 Our pregame streams are there as well as YouTube and Twitter
01:17:32 Jack's Twitter is at Jack's Monambia.
01:17:34 Mine is at same with France and be that's it for us.
01:17:37 That's cool.
01:17:38 Check Taco.
01:17:42 Come on.
01:17:42 Tacos.
01:17:43 Tacos.
01:17:44 Taco.
01:17:44 Tacos having some fun here.
01:17:46 These guys are ridiculous.
01:17:53 These guys are ridiculous.
01:17:56 (upbeat music)
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